That’s funny right there lol

They must be cursing at us for being so stupid😂

You funny

was krafwerk there!

@@dot2562I was not ready for a Kraftwerk reference under a Star Trek video. A man of culture 😂 that’s “deutsches Kulturgut” right there lol

what if their like Polar Bears & other Arctic creatures adapted to cold environment's but unable to survive in higher temperatures

@Joshua Sharwood Thats what I said!

The strange sound they emit when they "speak", the Encounter suit, the secrecy---they ARE Vorlon......expies.

I can't find the words to adequately express how epic this joke of yours is.

Oh I get it, because they're thots!

*you mean that Tribbles when highly annoyed become sociopaths and become the Crites from the Critters movies?*

What a terribly scary thought lol

For all we know, that could be the case. Nobody can prove that it isn’t.

No wonder why these guys are so much trimble- err, I mean trouble!

*mirror universe tribbles*

@Jeff somersby I think it's because they thought she was a Breen. Maybe they're scared of the Breen.

@Jeff somersby They're.

I wanna see the *sau ce*

@@astraloutlaw6549 You solved the mystery.

@@astraloutlaw6549 The Jem'Hadar fear no one but the Founders... the Breen are given a wide berth as demanded by the Female Founder as part of their alliance agreement, therefore the Jem'Hadar obey and give a lot of freedom/clearance for their new allies.

Fair fights are for suckers - some Breen commander at some point probably

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." -- John Steinbeck

god imagine a star trek show written around a breen/klingon conflict that pulls in the federation

@@sc149 Admiral Quinn: "Guys, let's sit this one out. Somebody call the galley and tell them to make some popcorn."

Klingons '' THATS NOT HONOURABLE''!! Breen'' And cloak is?''

The Bitter Cold and Temperate climate difference could be just because Weyoun like colder temperatures.

Cardassians think anything less than a heat wave is a bitter winter.

*that makes a lot of sense tactically*

"That contradicts Weyoun's claim that Breen has a temperate climate." didnt he say its "quite pleasant"? Which basically tells us nothing ebcause that poisoned Drink was also "quite toxic". And in general Weyoun´s behaviour is full of deception and trying to get reactions from others. So i dont know if that is an "reliable source".

I could imagine two scenarios. First, if it is a group of species, then their would be multiple "home worlds". Number 2, they are smart enough to not really show everyone their real home world so they lie about the real one and picked a worthless frozen planet. It would funny of they picked a frozen world for the Cardassians specifically because Cardassians hate the cold.

It strongly resembles it, it had to be deliberate. Especially when Kira pulls Leia's trick in the DS9 finale.

I read that scriptwriting took inspiration from rebels battle suite used on cold Hoth planet.

Apparently it's from some not very well known sci-fi show in the early 70s. So Star Trek wasn't ripping off Star Wars, they both were ripping off something obscure from even earlier. Same explanation for the comic characters Swamp Thing and Man Thing (came out the same month, both based on obscure character "The Heap" from 15 years earlier). No idea what the deal is with the 2 Dennis The Menace that came out in the US and the UK at the same time.

The Breen do look a lot like the Ubese......I wonder if their biology and/or back story is similar?

The Breen were initially an improvised low-budget creation. The production people didn't want to bother designing new aliens, new makeup and prosthetics, etc ... and they only needed one or two for the first Breen episodes ... so they repurposed old props and wardrobes, quickly put together half-assed costume which completely covered the performers. Surprisingly popular with fans so they got a lot more detail (yet carefully didn't get much specific detail) in later appearances. Not be the actual headgear prop worn in Star Wars, but definitely drew influence from it.

Prevailing theory is that the Breen we see in the Dominion prison with Worf is a high ranking Breen official who was replaced by a Founder.

@@phrophetsamgames The character of the Dominion was self-serving and self-righteous. That characteristic fits the Breen. Like attracts like and why the Romulans and Dominion had more success interacting with the Breen than Star Fleet.

I believe the Dominion promised to give the Breen either Earth or Romulus when the war was over. I don't remember which one. I haven't watched DS9 in a while.

@@jthornt01 I believe it is Earth as Weyoun expresses his disappointment of not given control of Earth to the Female Changeling.

@@nasanodia736 Wow, Star Trek has a surprising amount of imagintively racist fans.

That is just lazy screen writing. They didn't know what to do with them. Like Jar Jar and his mystery box.

Not anymore

Maybe a "nation" of Augments, similar to Khan, that decided to keep to themselves rather than try to go for harebrained schemes or galactic domination? Would make sense. The Federation would likely genocide them all if they ever found out what exactly they are, which is why they avoid them, while they don't have such reservations about the Klingons (whom they dislike for attacking them without provocation), the Ferengi, and the Dominion. I mean, if you lead a group of people that all have unnatural blue hair from birth, and some faction, that doesn't know about you yet, made one of its core tenets that everyone with an "unnatural" hair color violates their laws and needs to die, you'd stay the hell away from them as much as you can, and if you end up in a war with these people, you're gonna make sure that every hit on them hurts (like the Breen's attack on San Francisco) so they know not to approach you.

To be honest I just think they are the opposite of the Tholians who thrive in extreme heat climates, and frankly, it is a lot easier to heat up a place and keep it hot than cool it down which could explain the constant suits.

@@funkmantim2661 That's surprisingly inaccurate. Though there are a lot of factors involved, It generally takes more energy to heat a space up than to cool it down. (I just looked it up: www.quora.com/Which-wastes-more-energy-air-conditioner-or-heater )

That is if Weyoun was telling the truth. He was having one of his traditional passive aggressive conversations with Damar at the time.

Looks like it was just a superior species complex.

@Jeff somersby Not necessarily, they could have eyesight like nocturnal animals and in addition sonar or something else. You don't need a lot of light to see, just enough.

@Jeff somersby Err no it doesn't! It's only DARK for 2 weeks per month! When the moon is dark to us, WHERE do you think the sun is shining on it???

@@DMSProduktions a tidally locked planet will have no sunlight ever on one side and have sunlight for full day every day of the year on the opposite side

@@Mercilessonion That is NOT what I was talking about!

What if the breen are the xindi ?

Discovery went forward to 32nd century...

I never cared for Enterprise, and I never have had a netflix account so I couldn't see Discovery. Either way, I do agree that things should have been different (including the netflix exclusivity deal) after Voyager (which I personally did like). DS9 and TNG (respectively) where my favorites though.

I would LOVE to see the Vidiians having to deal with the Hirogen hunters!! Or even the Hirogen vs the Klingons!!! One of my biggest gripes in the whole Trekiverse, is that it always seems like it's only ever the Federation that has to deal with outside threats!! Borg invasion in TNG? Do they target the Breen? The Klingons? The Romulans? Nope, they HAVE to target the Federation! Border conflicts don't count, since there's almost always going to be border tensions and every culture deals with them, but outside threats that come from _Elsewhere_ and that don't share a border with ANY alpha quadrant species (or the [beta quadrant] Romulans) ALWAYS seem to only ever affect the Federation!! In fairness, however, I suppose it's possible that the Klingons, the Romulans, the Cardassians, etc, have all had to deal with things like The Crystalline Entity (or whatever the outside threat in question may be), but they choose not to make that information public and so our friends in the Federation just never hear of it. Still, nothing will ever compare to that episode* where Captain Kirk find some Protomolecule residue in a Prothean ruin and needs to travel forwards in time to get help from Picard's enterprise and her crew, to stop an unknown threat from both the Protomolecule creators AND from the Reaper invasion!!!! Best Episode EVER!!! * = It's possible that this might have been a dream that I confused with a real episode...

@@Raz.C It's not always clear, but it seems like the Federation is absolutely huge. It's questionable how canon it is, but in the 'map of the alpha quadrant' you can find online, the Federation contains a lot more planets and controls more territory than the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians put together. The reason that Starfleet has to worry about war with these other powers is Starfleet is more like an armed NGO than an imperial military and doesn't pursue military dominance. Up until the discovery of the borg, Starfleet didn't even build "warships" - their cruisers were primarily science and humanitarian ships with combat ability as a tertiary consideration. They don't conscript anybody and only maintain enough combat-capable ships to maintain the peace. As a result the Federation is relatively weak despite having dozens of member species and their homeworlds. Even so, it is telling that aside from the Borg and the Dominion, the traditional rival races like the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians never considered total war against the Federation a viable option, always opting for schemes and conflicts over limited objectives, usually a planet or two. The Borg and Dominion were the only entities that the Federation (that is, from the TNG era onward) as a whole was truly threatened by. So naturally they encounter all the weird threats; they're the ones looking for them. Incidentally I feel sure that the Reapers were at least partly inspired by the Borg and V'ger.

@@dark7element I get what you're saying, which means that I don't think I explained my own position very well. Let me try this: It seems like starfleet is the Earth Space Fleet, rather than the Federation Space Fleet. Sure, you find Vulcans here and there along with Andorians and Tellerites, Betazeds, etc... But they seem like token additions here and there, rather than the millions from those worlds one would expect. Instead, it seems like Earth is the only planet, humans are the only race which has millions of representatives in Star Fleet. There should be millions of people from each of the two hundred odd Federation worlds, all in Star Fleet. If that WERE the case, then none of the stellar neighbours of the Federation would be able to compete militarily with Star Fleet or the Federation. because- everything else aside- a Galaxy Class starship or even an Intrepid class starship (not to mention the Defiant class) is more than a match for any Romulan/ Klingon/ Cardassian warship, even though these Federation vessels aren't warships (Defiant aside, but we didn't mention that anyway)...

@Josh M He's making a reference to the Mandalorian

He's right. There is no Breen species. It's made up of multiple member races.

Be gone thought

@@Echo_Reyes Dont worry, not much thinking around here.

It's not "thought", it's THOT; and it stands for "That Ho Over There". It's a sexist slur coined by incels and used by misogynists. There's your Interwebz trivia for the day.

@@JanetStarChild r/whoosh

@@JanetStarChild Based liberal nonsense. Dumb slur though.

Except we know two people who have seen them. Gul Dukat And Kira. When they rescued Gul Dukat daughter.

There’s no guarantee. A source I read said they might wear suits underneath to protect them in the event of a suit breach

No, they just have a superior species complex to never see inferior species face to face. iscovery is showing the Breen in all their glory now, also they do bleed

Yes Weyoun tells Damar this

Or was it their home world? We can never truly know.

Yeah and that poisoned drink for ducat was "quite toxic" I think our measurement of "quite pleasant" isn´t the same as Weyouns, maybe.

Yeah but I think their natural habitat is still on the temperate side, so he would still know what a normal humanoid would find comfortable. They may have no sense of aesthetics, but that's not quite an aesthetic property, it's more of a statistic and they should be great at statistics, I would assume as it would aid in their functions as dominion dignitaries.

"I hear their home world is quite pleasant." Perhaps, but I wouldn't count on much of a cafe culture.

Agreed. There is a habit of people wanting to know everything, but I think it takes away so much of the mystery. Not knowing every single detail makes them so much more interesting, they are definitely one of my faves, along with Andorians. Less really is more sometimes

Sadly the enigma has been revealed.

A Founder tricking the Breen into the war makes sense, since the Breen don't seem like the types to involve themselves in other group's wars. Although, they did want Earth for some reason.

Yeah, I noticed that too. The brain-sucking aliens.

It's the other way around... people are weary of such a mysterious and powerful race. The THOTS tell others to be gone

I hated that episode they caused extinction of a species just becouse another one might emerge if they are dead.

I love that theory. Would show how fucked up StarFleet philosophy sometimes is.

I subscribe to that theory myself. Beautifully karmic.

Long live SFDebris

Since we're on the subject of Enterprise, I'll put forth the idea that they're Kreetassans who decided that showing your face is offensive.

Well, no wonder the Klingons are so terrified of them!

Technically, Kira and Bashir only saw Breen suit interiors. It's implied that these suits previously had Breen occupants, but not explicitly stated and not strictly required.

@@pwnmeisterage This, seeing how secretive the Breen are, if they don't just explode/melt like suggested without the suit, i could totally see them having implants that turn their bodies into unrecognizable remains the moment they die or their suit is forcibly removed, making sure nobody ever sees an intact Breen or can use their bodies for say... the creation of bioweapons against them.

@@_Muzolf there is the theory that hey are ammonia-based lifeforms, and those refrigeration suits are so they dont die. there was another that a breen is made up from corpses and dead tissue from other species that were reanimated.

That similarity was what probably drawn me to them back in the day.

All I can think when seeing them is "you are suffering from hibernation sickness"

Actually Patricia Tallman in a suit, more often than not.

@ DarthVaderReviews Why so much hate?

@@JanetStarChild No hate, just a harmless joke :)

*was curious about that one as well...perhaps it's best no one actually knows or remembers what they look like if given the opportunity to do so*

@@scottmantooth8785 apparently there are several Breen species. one requires refrig suits and the soldier Breen are of a race that melts when you kill them.

The point that Kira and Dukat never mentioning what the Breen look like is why some say that the Breen are of a makeup that would literally evaporate when exposed to temperatures that are "normal" for other humanoids (so the specific Breen in question may have evaporated quickly enough once their suits were removed that Kira and Dukat never had the chance to get a good look at them).

Or maybe they found extra suits

The big question is: how did the Federation not get a single body to study when the Breen attacked Earth?

Real human Breeing

That would make sense, not all humans want to stay in the egalitarian society of the Federation.

Klingons beamed them all up first, probably to stuff ane mount above their heartha back home.

In some sources the Breen suits are fitted with self-destructs, explosives, corrosives, or toxins which make recovering their bodies a fatal mistake.

Maybe their bodies dissolve when they die, like how a Changeling turns to ash, basically.

@@Paulafan5 I agree. There is the episode where Kira and Dukat rescue his daughter from the Breen, and they both wear Breen suits they steal from them. Somehow they forgot to check what Breen look like inside the suits LOL. Their bodies must dissolve somehow, maybe natural decay like Changelings or maybe the suit itself uses acid or another substance to dissolve the body quickly and keep the Breen secrecy.

That is assuming he saw reports on the correct planet and the Breen weren't able to keep Dominion Intelligence away from their real homeworld

@@weldonwin there was breen imprisoned with bashire, worf, martok and garack, it is possible that he was replaced from their world, maybe high political leader? a love those speculation :-D

@@weldonwin dont forget wayouns overall behaviour that can give hitns at what he defines as "quite pleasant". I mean remember that poisoned drink? what was his reaction to something extremly poisonous? "thats quite toxic, isnt it?" So .... for me personally that means "quite pleasant" could still mean a sub zero Planet if you can follow my way of thinking here.

@@kaitan4160 Yes. Also, Vorta have no sense of aesthetics, the Founders didn't deem it necessary that they had one.

Weyoun went to the breen home world that's why he told damar the temperature was quite comfortable

Howard Howard Startrek is different from Star Wars....isn’t it?...

Yeah, abouth that, you don't want to see ST Discovery if you want to still in the Breen like that

Yeah, I also heard they were based on wolves initially. But that bit seems lost to most of the fanbase

Weyoun may also have been lying or been misinformed. Also, the Breen encounter suits and technology may have been developed to survive their planet getting ravaged by a radical change in climate... which other species outside of their own consider pleasant. The lack of information makes just about all theories viable.

I like to think the suits (or the Breen themselves) are outfitted with a device that vaporizes the body within moments of death. They don't destroy the suit, though, because they know it's *much* creepier to kill a Breen and take the helmet off, only to find that there's nothing there.

Perhaps it was so hideous she doesn't even want to remember it, let alone describe it to others 🤔

My theory is that they likely have a suit that protects them from the environment around them, and then a second, combat suit that is layered on top of or attached on the previous one.

Exactly. Surely Kira would have reported what she saw. Especially, as she later became a Federation officer.

This is the way.

We are the breen lower your shields and power down your weapons....

That`s why I don`t like expanded universes. The assumption like this could be done by 9 y.o. boy

I'm pretty sure almost every officer on the Cerritos served in some capacity during the Dominion war. We know Mariner was on DS9.

@@noabsolutelynot3660 oh definitely but compared to Mariner's self destructive - suicidal tendencies, Ransom's Breen PTSD is very out of left field so it hints the Breen got to him pretty hard for him to not even attempt his usual attack patterns (barehanded melee).

would explain why they don't care much for the federation

Like Neil Breen

Partially correct. At the first conflict the weapon effected all but ONE Klingon ship, apparently they had a Klingon version of Jordi Õ_Õ onboard that had modified the ship making the ship (accidentally?) Immune to the breen weapon. The rest of the Klingon fleet was decimated at that battle. However after that first battle the Klingon fleet that had remained behind and all newly made Klingon ships were able to be rapidly modified in the same manor as that sole surviving Klingon ship making them immune to the effects as well. That lead to them being pushed to the forefront because the federation and romulans took longer to adapt the Klingon modifications to their respective tech. But they all managed to make the modifications after some time and at that point the weapon was rendered totally useless against everyone.

Breen are secretly just Human free-market capitalists, forced off Earth centuries ago. The propaganda calls them "Augments" and "Genetically Engineered Tyrants".

*they may not be able to do so...if anything they would be more interested in their technology than what passes for their biology as mentioned on a reddit commentary thread*

Their technology and their ships, yes. Their encounter suits, yes. Their entire biologies would most likely be converted to technology covering the skeleton, the skeleton the only solid and stable part of their biology, and only assimilating their brain long enough to absorb the information before converting that into a brainlike processor. So... more absorb than assimilate.

What would be funny if the the Breen-s habitual extreme caution and acting mysterious lead to the Borg barely even being aware of their existence. I can imagine the borgs attempt to gather info and assimilate some Breen like this. Borg cube enters Breen space - Never to return, collective never learns what happened to it. Attempted capture of Breen ships by the borg in neutral territories. - After the fifth time the breen ship being captured just exploded before anything could be learned from it, the collective stopped trying. Attempted assimilation of captured Breen from third party. - Biological discintiveness lost to suspected self destruct implant that turned the Bleens body into unrecognizable degraded biomass. Cold suit provided no useful new technology or insight for the collective. Attempted information gathering and summary based on own experiences and data assimilated from others. - Precious little information recovered, files mysteriously lost from the collectives data net shortly after, including own records of previous encounters. Breens very existence dismissed as myth created by some of the assimilated species by the collective. Breen territory is now marked on the collectives starmaps, as one giant navigational hazard to be avoided by Borg ships in the future.

Weyoun could have just been trolling Damar.

@@RRW359 true but we never know, as he puts it "im always serous"

If I'm not mistaken, he said it wasn't a frozen wasteland but much more amiable, but that doesn't stop it from being cold, so while our perception may be that's -100C, it may very well be, by that statement, -30C or something like that

*climate

Could be the Breen were decieving everyone on what planet is their home world. If your worried about someone having a fleet drop out of warp as close as possible to the planet and nuking it wouldn't it be better to tell everyone the center of your government is a minor colony you don't care about instead of the actual home world?

which mission?

@@sheilaolfieway1885 After completing the old Breen Cold War campaign, I think after completing Cold storage. You cant anymore, Breen can only be bought for 8000 Zen, now.

@@sagesheahan6732 i'd rather just have the breen outfit to be honest.

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I love this theory, it's quite possible!

Minority species of mostly civilians or raiders. I assume you are talking about the cat-like humanoids that almost no Star Trek work mentions aside from passing, right? I'm curious too if there is more on them. A lot of people assume that the Kataan (if that is how you spell it) vessel in TNG with the games was manned by Catians (saying Kataans and the Catains [Caitans?] are the same species even though they did not at all look alike). I haven't heard clarification since I heard that debate decades ago.

No. That would be the Domo.

@@PouchMaster did you even watch the video?

Is that Belle Delphine or Pokimane?

@@mr_h831 Yes I watched the video. Nevertheless the highest Breen rank of all is Domo. The Domo runs everything Breen.

@@PouchMaster then why did you feel the need to point that out to _me specifically_ if you knew (assuming you watched the video like you say you did) that i waz literally just quoting someone else? Directing this comment of yours towards the someone who actually said it might have been more productive.

Shoot! A fella can have a good time with a CRM!

only one ship survived the first battle. after that the Klingons adapted their remaining ships

Hyades52 you’re right thx 👍

@@daxammight It was an old bird of prey that had an older out-dated piece of warp core equipment (forget the name of the piece of equipment) that rendered the Breen energy dissipater useless. it was then ordered that all remaining ships be outfitted with this piece of technology specifically. :)

One ship was, because all BoPs are made to order and their internals and loadout can vary wildly, depending on the House who commissioned it.

*what would the Klingon equivalent of neener, neener, neener be?*

No on Neil Breen the superior Breeing

So, Mr..Freeze could live among the Breen.

But I have a flamethrower installed in my butt. They come after me, my farts will melt them.

@@jetfowl if these people are frozen in their suits , just Jack up the heat and make them uncomfortable.

*do the Breen Even Have Backs?*

yes and no it's kind of interesting to have an enigmatic species in it on the other hand I would like to see them

Remember what happened when Voyager tried to explain the Borg...

I'm very against that. The breen are one of the few mystery races in star trek. Over explaining can undermine them.

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Yeah. And?

Can you come back from vacation? We miss you hawk boy !

Why the fuck are you everywhere.