Brennan vs Imamura

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10 жыл бұрын

1992 Shoto World Cup.

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@bonzodog8070
@bonzodog8070 7 жыл бұрын
frank is my dads best friend and my dad filmed this
@garthewar
@garthewar 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Oss
@salsam5837
@salsam5837 Жыл бұрын
If u r already a penetrated bottom gay, don’t expect others to be just like u .. There is a world of deferences between friendship & gayship ! U r judging people based on what you are doing 😉
@TheSomnathchatterjee
@TheSomnathchatterjee 10 ай бұрын
Was he a professional 📸??
@JC-qf5nc
@JC-qf5nc 3 жыл бұрын
Sensei Brennan the essence of Shotokan.
@dirkhartog7438
@dirkhartog7438 6 ай бұрын
Imamura seemed to have Brennan's number in some of the big tournaments, but you can see the immense respect Imamura had for Brennan, as had all the major Japanese fighters of that era. Imamura was one of the very few that could get the distance right to avoid Brennan's fantastic kicks, yet have the speed and poise to counter with his own attacks. Even so, it was often debatable who won the "fight" as we say. In his prime Brennan was one of the best fighters in the world and you could argue there was no more complete Karateka since he won both kumite and kata in many big tournaments.
@TheReverb1
@TheReverb1 4 ай бұрын
Hi; the only secret was that he was bigger than most and with this type of rules; taller or bigger almost always win.
@starkist100
@starkist100 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a former student of Shotokan karate in the iskf. I watch this fight several times even in slow motion and clearly Frank Brennan did out point is opponent. His opponent was able to to use his defense blocks but Brennan did follow up with great offense. I seen the unfairness of referees many times in tournaments.
@TheReverb1
@TheReverb1 2 жыл бұрын
...is by points and the points were all from Imamura. Sports Kumite is not Karate as you are seeing
@AlbertChyn
@AlbertChyn 2 жыл бұрын
Last two hits Brennan hit the shoulder.
@jdhiker5576
@jdhiker5576 Жыл бұрын
Was the ref bob rhodes???or a Jap?
@carlcanmore2658
@carlcanmore2658 4 ай бұрын
No one wins all the time but Frank sure won way more than he lost.
@video3dvd
@video3dvd 8 жыл бұрын
I had Brennan in both the last 2 exchanges...more power from kick punch combo than Imamura.s counter....Brennan had excellent distance from powerful stance while opponent did not...I am sure Imamura would agree...
@irenestewart1942
@irenestewart1942 8 жыл бұрын
+Scott Sargent Yeah, Frank had both those hots. I wouldn't given Imamura any of those points, because he was jumping to the air to land them and Frank was pushing ihm back.
@Caeternum
@Caeternum 8 жыл бұрын
There's the small fact that Brennan kept hitting Imamura's shoulder, waaay off target.
@AlbertChyn
@AlbertChyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caeternum agreed. The last two hits he kept hitting the shoulder.
@beatrizlacerda4662
@beatrizlacerda4662 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertChyn Apparently nowadays, referees count those punches to the shoulder. Just lost a final because of a punch to the shoulder -.- it's sad
@manxwardies
@manxwardies 3 жыл бұрын
The gyakazuki at the beginning looked great and as for the last exchange, the ref should have gone to spec savers..
@jean-lucverbruggen6483
@jean-lucverbruggen6483 3 жыл бұрын
Une des techniques de Frank Brennan était de pousser son adversaire dans les coins et de placer un de ses coups de pied favoris. J’en ai fait l’expérience en 1982. Oss Senseï.
@robertquinn2156
@robertquinn2156 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to you Jean 😎 Frank could score with any multitude of different techniques that was made him very different from the rest & gave him such a glowing world recognized competitor on the international scene as well as domestic . Good health to Jean you must have been a very good karetka your self 😊😉👍👌👊
@SwedishViking1988
@SwedishViking1988 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. They're not really doing much. but you can really feel the tension. If either one is doing something wrong, they'll lose. Brennan is such an awesome karateka, just as Imamura is.
@diosdadoapias
@diosdadoapias Жыл бұрын
You make the winner the least. talking about karma. when you are boastful like brennan you will lose.
@pdrumond9606
@pdrumond9606 7 жыл бұрын
Imamura won the "game", but that ushiro mawashi geri from Brennan would have Ko'd Imamura in a real fight, so I wouldn't be happy with this win.
@robg521
@robg521 4 жыл бұрын
It looked like Imamura was out of the area, if so then he cannot legally score while out of bounds even if he hits Brennan, but Brennan can score because he is still inside the line so that Ushiro mawashigeri should have counted. I think that the Ref may have shouted Yame to stop the fight a fraction before the kick hit, ....... so no score. A good ref will pause when a fighter backs off out of bounds before shouting stop to give the other fighter a chance to take advantage but should not wait too long. Either way Imamura should have received a warning for going out of bounds.
@richardweber5521
@richardweber5521 4 жыл бұрын
No off target, Look at it and super super slow motion
@miki2006rumbero
@miki2006rumbero 8 жыл бұрын
Strong figther that Imamura, I never knew him before.
@zoom421
@zoom421 8 жыл бұрын
Scott Sargent - it's the hangover effect.
@tonywilson4339
@tonywilson4339 2 жыл бұрын
any videos on gary spiers karate legend boncer body guard
@andrewbakoledis4021
@andrewbakoledis4021 5 жыл бұрын
Brennan missed the target. that's why he couldn't get the points. The last point awarded was a little sloppy. think they'd split 10 matches though. thanks for posting this video.
@anthonystill7585
@anthonystill7585 9 жыл бұрын
a very young Frank Brennan there, good fight!
@sligo405
@sligo405 6 жыл бұрын
Imamura's timing is outstanding. Clear victory. He stuck the right hand on both of Brennan's kicks in the last minute. Anyone who has any doubt about that is not watching the replay or is simply not a knowledgeable viewer, imo. BTW, Brennan was awesome for someone who never went to Japan for an extended period. Some of the instructors at the JKA found it perplexing. As good as he was, he never moved the way the Japanese did and he would have been better had he learned. But you couldn't get there without the JKA instructors program, even if you were in Philadelphia (Okazaki), Los Angeles (Nishiyama) or London (Enoeda).
@carlcanmore2658
@carlcanmore2658 4 ай бұрын
From what I have seen, Frank was a one of a kind natural talent, the JKA could have learned from him which is what happened as M. Tanaka recognized this & started special training for Japanese karateka because of Frank.
@ankyspon1701
@ankyspon1701 Ай бұрын
Could have been better?? Frank retired Grandslam Champion! His timing was incredible and his kicks were the best in the world, far superior to Imamura, which is why Imamura played defence. Frank was obviously the better fighter from a sport karate perspective. Imamura was a superb Karateka, but in this fight he was a sniper and rarely attacked, which is how it should be for self defence, but it's no good for sport karate if you just sit and wait for the other guy to attack first every time. If Frank had played Imamura's game, they'd have both stood there bouncing in the middle of the mat for 3 minutes and nobody would have scored. Besides that, Brennan won the fight earlier anyway! Did you even see Frank's ushiro-mawashigeri at 1.44, perfect timing, perfect control, straight into Imamura's face. The judge deliberately blew the whistle just as that kick connected, to deny Brennan the victory! It was a fix. Then at the end, you can clearly see Brennan lands the punch first and his hand is half way back before Imamura makes contact. Western Karateka were only invited to the JKA, so the Japanese could study the way they move, because the Japanese champions were being defeated so often, not so Western fighters could learn to move like the Japanese. Having said that, I've just learned a lot from watching Imamura and will watch more of his fights. Do the research and watch the compilation video of Frank Brennan's wins, as I just did, and you'll see how good he actually was.
@vikotto
@vikotto 2 жыл бұрын
When your in opponent territory, you have to definitively win to go home with the victory.
@ankyspon1701
@ankyspon1701 Ай бұрын
Frank won this fight at 1.44 with the ushiro-mawashigeri into Imamura's face. The judge blew the whistle exactly as the kick connected, denying Brennan the victory! It should've counted really. Then if you pause at the end, you can clearly see Brennan lands the punch first and then his hand is retracting half way back while Imamura's arm is still locked out. Due to Imamura turning it looked likw Frank caught him in the shoulder though, I'm not sure how the points system works, but it wouldn't seem fair if you can simply wait until you are punched in the body, then simply punch the guy in the face in order to win. From a power perspective, you'd imagine the rooted punch from Brennan would be double the power of Imamura's jumping punch. It's a shame when the outcome of a fight is down to the referee. As a note, I've just done the research and Brennan was one of the best in the world, his kicks and timing were legendary when he retired Grandslam Champion!
@R0nge
@R0nge 9 жыл бұрын
Very dubious refereeing.. home advantage for Imamura I suppose :-).. no more than Frank got in KUGB competitions though :-)
@TheSomnathchatterjee
@TheSomnathchatterjee 4 жыл бұрын
R0nge what advantage boss
@fska2254
@fska2254 4 жыл бұрын
Putting all judging opinions aside, I felt the 2nd point was yowai, and shouldn't have been awarded. The issue with shobu ippon is that although it encourages skilled technqiues, it allows for quicker matches, esp with biased/errors in judging.
@neo3373
@neo3373 2 ай бұрын
Sen no Sen, Perfect...!
@robg521
@robg521 4 жыл бұрын
Dubious refereeing. It very difficult to ***Not*** favour your bias wen refereeing but at the highest level that is no excuse. In the last two exchanges they both punched and scored at same time so the deciding factor is ‘who hit 1st’. But both times the ref instantly indicated a point to Imamura even though he is on the blind side and cannot see the point impact of either of Imamura’s punches. He should have deferred to the corner judges for judgement. [No discussion, no hesitation, instantly awards points to Imamura].... Hmmmmm 🤔 If I was Brennan I would be extremely disappointed.
@AlbertChyn
@AlbertChyn 2 жыл бұрын
What about the shoulder hits? Isn’t that off target for Brennan?
@mooseven
@mooseven 9 жыл бұрын
Surprised that the ushiro mawashi geri jodan at around 01:41 wasn't scored. Looked like a very clean hit.
@Philmoscowitz
@Philmoscowitz 7 жыл бұрын
Imamura was out of bounds so it doesn't count.
@pauloraduarte
@pauloraduarte 6 жыл бұрын
Ushiro ura mawashi...a perfect and clear point...thus referee is obviously tendencious
@mynameistrd6841
@mynameistrd6841 9 ай бұрын
Out of bound and after referee yelled yame
@robg521
@robg521 2 ай бұрын
When a fighter steps out of bounds he cannot score a point even if he hits with a good technique, BUT.. the other fighter who is still in bounds can continue and score but it must be done without delay, [a good ref will wait a short while before blowing the whistle when someone steps over the line because of this rule] In this case Brennan waited too long and the ref blew the whistle.
@spirgtudsrubec7776
@spirgtudsrubec7776 4 жыл бұрын
Imamura showed no intent, little or no reaction to pressure, and pinpoint accuracy. Brennan would have pressured another opponent into showing his hand. very good fight.
@nathanpflughoeft227
@nathanpflughoeft227 9 жыл бұрын
is it just the hair or is imamura sensei's head actually that big?
@budoone679
@budoone679 9 жыл бұрын
the larger than proportion cranium is causing instability in the legs.
@user-zu6ei2wm7w
@user-zu6ei2wm7w 4 ай бұрын
Imamura won cleanly👏
@SempaiChrisMasvingo
@SempaiChrisMasvingo 8 жыл бұрын
clearly Imamura lost, he was being awarded points dubiously!
@sanapro2
@sanapro2 8 жыл бұрын
+Sempai Chris as if you are TRAINED to see what the judges CAN see...BOTH points, jodan zuni to Brennan & were ON TARGET, while brennan missed his counter...stop hating
@SempaiChrisMasvingo
@SempaiChrisMasvingo 5 жыл бұрын
I love Imamura Sensei, but here he was pressed @@sanapro2
@jdhiker5576
@jdhiker5576 3 жыл бұрын
That last point was franks...!!!!!
@richardweber5521
@richardweber5521 4 жыл бұрын
People look at everything at really super super slow motion to see really what goes on and how things are scored
@DillyBansal
@DillyBansal 7 жыл бұрын
1:46 'calm down' lol
@Midwinter2
@Midwinter2 3 жыл бұрын
Imamura clear winner. Incredible timing and precision. Hitting Brennan to the face under his armpit, half-way through an ushiro-geri....! How the actual F***???
@henryod65
@henryod65 4 жыл бұрын
Just watches this for the first time. Brennan clearly the winner
@sligo405
@sligo405 6 жыл бұрын
Imamura was just technically better. If Brennan had just sucked it up and gone to Japan for a year or two, he would have gotten to the next level. He was about as good as you can get training outside of japan, but (back then for sure) that was a solid notch or two below the Japanese in terms of technique and timing. Had he gone to the ITP in Tokyo (they would have taken him, he would have been training with Imamura, Sakata, Yamamoto, Yahara, Kawawada. He would have been awesome.
@donedeal725
@donedeal725 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@TheReverb1
@TheReverb1 2 жыл бұрын
Amos did that and now as you see clearly in his new clips, is not so incredible regarding technique; so I do not know. The point is that all these guys are big; bigger than most and that is their advantage; when I d watched a fight with a guy similar tall etc; I did not saw ANY good differentiated technique.
@marclandry893
@marclandry893 2 жыл бұрын
I don,t agree. Brennan was better than most Japanese, he beat Mori and Naka like nothing. In this match he waited too long, he didn,t have his usual aggressivity and speed. Imamura is just waiting to execute gyaku zuki.
@carlcanmore2658
@carlcanmore2658 4 ай бұрын
Despite that, the Japanese had to initiate special training when Frank was beating them so it seems the Japanese did the learning.
@dickyboy8195
@dickyboy8195 9 жыл бұрын
I think Imamura sense Was outside fight area
@francocelestinograzzini3744
@francocelestinograzzini3744 Жыл бұрын
Frank Brenan was the best!!
@diogenesantoniomarquesjose4454
@diogenesantoniomarquesjose4454 3 жыл бұрын
Imamura doesn't saw Brennan's Ushiro Mawashi Geri.
@user-zu6ei2wm7w
@user-zu6ei2wm7w 4 ай бұрын
Because, after stop - jogai
@steverobbins4261
@steverobbins4261 9 жыл бұрын
I think frank was cheated out of a least one wazari there?
@childofthe60s100
@childofthe60s100 2 жыл бұрын
What a very strange decision!
@davidotuoma1865
@davidotuoma1865 5 жыл бұрын
If was frank i would have taken him out earlier and not giving him time to settle and for the referee to take his side...
@ifrahserge8736
@ifrahserge8736 3 жыл бұрын
what a shame for this referee !!
@kidokan111
@kidokan111 10 жыл бұрын
dubious ref
@BelloBudo007
@BelloBudo007 9 жыл бұрын
understatement!
@rcasellaos
@rcasellaos Ай бұрын
el u´ltimo punto no fue de Imamura
@sligo405
@sligo405 3 жыл бұрын
The second waszari is awesome. The timing and poise are high, high level. Brennan was as good as you could get back then without being in Japan for a year or more. He should have gone. They would have welcomed him at the JKA and he would have realized his potential. Don't get me wrong, he was very, very good, but if he'd spent a year or more with Kawawada and Kagawa, and Immamura, and Yahara, he would have gone next level. He would have loosened up quite a bit, I expect, and he would have had no problem with guys like Immamura, who he was quite a bit bigger than (I'm not sure, but Brennan looks like he's 5-11 or 6 foot, maybe 185+ in his prime.
@robertquinn2156
@robertquinn2156 2 жыл бұрын
Sensei Frank Brennan had no reason to go to Japan . It would have benefited the Japanese more than him as they would of learnt of him so well . They are well aware that Sensei Frank Brennan was the best karetka in the world . Even The late Nakayama said Frank was the best outside Japan . Remember Master Nakayama produced the very best in Sensei Enoeda, kannazawa, kase etc list endless . Frank was taught from by Andy Sherry & Enoeda. Andy Sherry 1st European Champion & Master Enoeda say no more . Frank Brennan was sparring many of the true great when he was just a child like European Champions like Sensei Terry Oneil , Bob Poyton list goes on . At 17 or 18 years old he took out the world Champion Mori with the most perfect Mawashi geri ; which the photo was used on the cover of a martial arts magazine at the time . I agree Frank could off probably benefited from learning from Sensei Yahara. But who wouldn't ? My farther asked one of the most senior KUGB instructor why he never went to Japan & he said I seen many great karetka's came back in nearly body bags ruined by Japaneese in there ways of teachings & there lack of respect to other fellow karetka's from outside Japan . Frank was robbed many times in his fighting career by too biased judges referees especially the Japaneese himself like many true great European fighter from many different country's. Once you train with him you realize just how good he really is than just watching him competitions . Sensei Tanka said the whole Japanese squad trained specifically just go beat Frank that tells you everything in itself . Frank was robbed in this fight like many others unfortunately
@sligo405
@sligo405 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertquinn2156 Shrink Brennan down to the size of most of the Japanese team and you get a guy who doesn't come close to making the Japanese team. He would have learned a ton. The Japanese would have learned little or nothing from FB.
@robertquinn2156
@robertquinn2156 2 жыл бұрын
@@sligo405 Sensei Frank Brennan is only 5ft 10 inches !! His size as you put he looks much bigger because of his constant training where he masters techniques which gave him the edge over nearly all competitors . So his height is neither or there!! To say he would not make the Japanese team is ludicrous. Some Japan karetka are bigger than him in height ! He was just so powerfull . The quotes I have given above came from many senior karetka instructors & backed up too ! Do your research & try speaking to people that know him personally speaking over a period of time rather than just watching him in competitions or just fought him once or so ! They will all tell you the same . But off course he does have his haters as many are envious of his achievements & the skills he posses .
@sligo405
@sligo405 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertquinn2156 With all due respect (not sure how much, but some), I believe you are deluded. FB was technically average, by Japanese standards (the one that matters in my opinion) and was big, also by Japanese Standards. There were probably two guys his size or bigger in the JKA instructors program back then, and the guys he could have learned from (Sakata, Yamamoto, Kawawada, et al) averaged about 5-7. I was there at the time, and there is no question the JKA guys respected Brennan's skill and spirit, but that's a far cry from seeing him as some kind of karate master that they could learn from. If you had said that to them then they would have fallen over laughing. 100%.
@carlcanmore2658
@carlcanmore2658 4 ай бұрын
And yet M. Tanaka initiated special training for the Japanese squad because of Frank, that tells me the Japanese did the learning because it was rare for a Westerner to beat them.
@topcatcoolio8807
@topcatcoolio8807 2 ай бұрын
Pogo dance
@karatejutsu
@karatejutsu 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused
@lagvin719ify
@lagvin719ify 4 жыл бұрын
brennan definitely lost the fight. he just have the arms length nd built to his advantage
@danclaudiu1915
@danclaudiu1915 9 жыл бұрын
Definitely Brennan won this fight!!!
@isaacmccourt2023
@isaacmccourt2023 8 жыл бұрын
in the last grading I went to sensi brennan kicked me in the stomach for not doing it 100% perfectly now iv got a scar for life on my belly (seriosly)
@danclaudiu1915
@danclaudiu1915 8 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear that!
@TheMerseycop
@TheMerseycop 7 жыл бұрын
+Smiley Dragon frank wouldn't do that, trained under him for years
@veritum
@veritum 7 жыл бұрын
Well, he may kick you (he certainly kicked me for not concentrating on occasions), but his control in perfect - never more than a sting.
@Whispurer
@Whispurer 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmccourt2023 Oh God, I'm no joke getting trained by Brennan on Saturday, he's coming over to the Okami Shotokan club in Wales.
@stephenboyes5189
@stephenboyes5189 7 жыл бұрын
THE STRONGER KARATEKA LOST...
@sallysbananenrepublik3740
@sallysbananenrepublik3740 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao thought the same
@NisseOhlsen
@NisseOhlsen 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about cheating. This has nothing to do with the spirit of karate. Sad corrupt referees.
@paulashford4155
@paulashford4155 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are two fights (this and another) online where Brennan lost to Imamura. Brennan rarely lost as far as I know.... but the speed and timing of Imamura obviously makes him special.
@ChickenGruel
@ChickenGruel 2 жыл бұрын
like recording a recording wtf
@jamesyu9926
@jamesyu9926 5 ай бұрын
This is where point system fails. The kicker was the aggressor but counter puncher gets the point. In a real situation, power kicker would’ve won easily.
@Sinagur
@Sinagur Жыл бұрын
Японцы всегда отличались предвзятостью судей в отношении гоядзинов...
@jaykay5369
@jaykay5369 3 жыл бұрын
2:31 - Slow it down to 1/4 speed. Brennan shifts his weight to the right with a small sidestep with his rear foot. Brennan's momentum is, for a fraction of a second, moving him backwards, and Imamura was quick enough to read the movement and react. Sensei Brennan is incredible, but a cat would have been slower than Sensei Imamura, crazy quick.
@jb-ks9kh
@jb-ks9kh 8 жыл бұрын
the referee should have stopped that early and told them to get more active, it was boring till he went down a score.
@hiranom20
@hiranom20 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't WKF my friend.
@EspeditoAfonso
@EspeditoAfonso 2 жыл бұрын
Claramente o Brenam foi roubado, o Imamura não consegue golpear com a base no chão o que demonstra golpe fraco, sem eficiência.
@helionepomuceno7472
@helionepomuceno7472 7 жыл бұрын
Franck is winner off course...........
@chriskonstandinos4996
@chriskonstandinos4996 2 жыл бұрын
the last mae geri was a clear score for Brenan, both yaku zuki where ai utchi!!
@user-jh5ef8mz5x
@user-jh5ef8mz5x 3 жыл бұрын
唉,愛國裁判
@user-jh5ef8mz5x
@user-jh5ef8mz5x 5 жыл бұрын
Frank won the fight, lost the match.
@OverSooll
@OverSooll 4 жыл бұрын
Shotokan point fighting is a dance where the loser becomes the winner by ideology ,
@batestarilayefa5975
@batestarilayefa5975 8 жыл бұрын
Both of them were afraid of each other
@robertquinn2156
@robertquinn2156 2 жыл бұрын
It was not afraid at all ! It was respect as both new how good each one was & new just the slight error would cost them the fight . So Frank was fainting & both where just waiting for the right opening at the right time . But frank showed pressure & fainting where the japaneese competitor new very well how good frank was & could not match him for techinques etc so just soley relied on his his timming as if he tried any more Frank would have found him out . It was a Chess match of true expetional karetekas.
@germancanivilo255
@germancanivilo255 5 жыл бұрын
Boeing faigth
@mfuji02
@mfuji02 4 жыл бұрын
tie more rounds -_-
@isidrosanmorales8442
@isidrosanmorales8442 3 жыл бұрын
Un robo
@karlwagner932
@karlwagner932 Ай бұрын
I can not see why Imamura has won this fight ! Brennan brought through some clean and strong technics! How Imamura got all these points ? In my opinion Brennan didn't lose that fight !
@WolfgangVonKempelen838
@WolfgangVonKempelen838 7 жыл бұрын
Frank the clear winner, all day long ! ! ! !
@federicoarielpedersen4631
@federicoarielpedersen4631 3 жыл бұрын
Zzzzzz
@nick45be
@nick45be 8 жыл бұрын
zzzzzz
@semseiattale
@semseiattale 7 жыл бұрын
Brennan Wazari-Ippon-Ippon Imamura. Wazari.
@SnapperTurtle
@SnapperTurtle 5 жыл бұрын
they robbed brennan, n u can c it n imamura mannerism
@user-hw6wn4ue8j
@user-hw6wn4ue8j 2 жыл бұрын
Brennan deserves to win, and the refereeing is unfair and biased
@jamespierson868
@jamespierson868 7 жыл бұрын
Frank was robbed... OBVIOUSLY and CLEARLY!
@tommystevenson2921
@tommystevenson2921 5 жыл бұрын
referee was wrong
@Revanxxx1
@Revanxxx1 5 жыл бұрын
Corruption
@tommystevenson2921
@tommystevenson2921 5 жыл бұрын
refereeing appalling.........japanese bias
@frankmoore1299
@frankmoore1299 2 ай бұрын
What a boring stand off
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