Bret challenges Sam Harris to a conversation
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Жыл бұрынSam Harris is torturing logic
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In this 158th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), discuss the state of the world though an evolutionary lens. Find more from us on Bret’s website (bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (heatherheying.com).
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@l.rongardner2150 Жыл бұрын
Sam doesn't believe in free will, so it's not up to him to accept or reject Bret's challenge.
@agathahofmann6977 Жыл бұрын
♥️
@sosscs Жыл бұрын
lol that's a good one
@platoplombo15 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ancientfuture9690 Жыл бұрын
😂👏🏼
@dm3199 Жыл бұрын
He also does not believe in free speech, God forbid someone will freely speak their mind.
@ceruleanswim Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Harris can admit that he was wrong even to himself. There’s some kind of ego issue there.
@drmedwuast Жыл бұрын
I doubt that's it. At this point I'm sure he's actually that delusional.
@miller-joel Жыл бұрын
Not to mention psychosis.
@purplezoid1 Жыл бұрын
@Homer Dummy lol exactly. Imagine that the virus was just a bit more deadly and imagine that there was no vaccine and imagine masks worked and...... THEN it all makes sense. JUST IMAGINE!!!
@ceruleanswim Жыл бұрын
@Homer Dummy 🤣 🤣🤣 he does continue to provide truly the biggest of big brain takes.
@yamo511 Жыл бұрын
for sure
@Jonjzi Жыл бұрын
You compose yourself very well for someone at the end of his patience. Thanks for being a great example of civil conduct.
@andreit3601 Жыл бұрын
Brett and Heather (greetings from WA), i dont usually post but i thought you needed a bump up; I've long appreciated your perspectives on the Covid development. The timely updates to your present state of knowing (unlike waiting for someone's New York times bestseller). Your humility with the details, rather than brazen certainty in simplification. These are noble traits in a person.
@geo525252 Жыл бұрын
Sam has no humility, zero integrity and has abandoned intellectual honesty. Given these facts he has no option other than to double down.
@l.sophia2803 Жыл бұрын
Bravo
@brandonroberts13 Жыл бұрын
Since day one
@meltingintoair7581 Жыл бұрын
The Weinsteins are empirical materialists, exactly like Sam Harris. Empirical materialism denies a rational, objective reality in favor of an irrational, subjective reality. Only a Pythagorean, Leibnizian, Godelian, mathematical, rationalist idealism recognizes free will, mind, life and the objectivity of reality.
@bradpaynedesigns Жыл бұрын
He'd make a good politician 🤣
@undercoveragent9889 Жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is a malignant narcissist. Going no contact is the best solution.
@killjoyredux8361 Жыл бұрын
I don't know exactly at what point Harris lost his mind...but it's pretty clear that he has.
@miller-joel Жыл бұрын
2016. TDS.
@squabknob Жыл бұрын
His “mind” was a house of cards
@TchHry Жыл бұрын
@@miller-joel This... this is true. Every time I hear him veer off into crazy land the T word comes up. And Bret isn't even a Conservative or a Trump supporter... but he TRIES to see things clearly. That's exhausting. I am a Conservative, I'd like Bret to stay true to who he is! He helps keep my thinking in check even if I still disagree... Sam can't do that anymore... he is positive he's right.
@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын
There are many who wold claim that he never had a mind to begin with.
@killjoyredux8361 Жыл бұрын
Doubling down in the moment to save your ego is one thing....but pure unabated narcissistic personality that prevents you from any sort of self reflection or course correction on a longer time frame is another.
@ericmacfarlane6695 Жыл бұрын
I love this. Rather than an emotional knee-jerk response, you’ve offered a rational, gracious, yet still firm response. Thank you for being the one to keep the “I” in IDW.
@jasper_of_puppets Жыл бұрын
Felt like Brett was cutting a pro wrestling promo - albeit an intellectual and civil one... Brett put the Wrestling in IDW
@Nrustica Жыл бұрын
The word tortured to describe another seems overly emotional itself, Weinstein has a retarded rhetoric problem. Sam spinning out two months ago and Bret is still hammering away futilely at a dead horse. I disagree with your compliment
@Jonathan-gj1rl Жыл бұрын
@@jasper_of_puppetsthe man has a right to Defend himself. Put the D in IDW
@carpathianhermit7228 Жыл бұрын
Fr the knee jerk reaction is being programmed into people. Don't even listen to the person but if their tone sounds like disagreement they are the avatar of everything you stand against and should react appropriately. Childish shit thanks big tech and intelligence apparatus
@LeviNotik Жыл бұрын
This is far more gracious than Sam deserves.
@matthewmartinez2129 Жыл бұрын
Can someone please succinctly explain what you people’s stance on covid is? I can’t get a straight answer
@DeusExMachina50 Жыл бұрын
The pandemic has certainly exposed many of the so-called experts.
@nomnomyam9379 Жыл бұрын
this goes back to russiagate bs. that broke so many brains, the pandemic expanded that.
@unbreakable7633 Жыл бұрын
It has proven that Nassim Taleb is right about the myth of experts: few are truly expert.
@jamesleonard7242 Жыл бұрын
That applies to Taleb as well. Blocked my ass on twitter
@alvareo92 Жыл бұрын
@@unbreakable7633I liked Lex Fridman’s, love him or take him, take on this: no one is an expert on anything
@AndyFromBeaverton Жыл бұрын
The Branch Covidian cultist will be getting their due and the truth comes out.
@dustinpetty409 Жыл бұрын
This has to be the most polite way to call someone out on their b.s.
@alansimmonds9030 Жыл бұрын
If you want the reverse approach, then try Jimmy Dore's expose on Sam Harris....It's a doozie.
@joyduncan9434 Жыл бұрын
@@alansimmonds9030 Oh, yeah . Jimmy does not hold back on bit and IMO it is well deserved.
@mw248 Жыл бұрын
“Why is he torturing logic, to rescue his rightness from the evidence?” ZING!! 🤣 and Bret says it so nonchalantly…thank you, sir. STAY UP, STAY FREE!!
@menemismix Жыл бұрын
What Sam is lacking is intellectual humility
@phatos_says Жыл бұрын
100%
@OneTribe.Community Жыл бұрын
1000%
@canadeplorable2893 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@dyingbreed1282 Жыл бұрын
💯
@scythermantis Жыл бұрын
He never had it to begin with, at any point
@GetUnlabeled Жыл бұрын
Heather and Bret, you guys are REALLY looking happy these days, you all deserve it!
@ledaswan5990 Жыл бұрын
Ignorance is bliss
@steveplc2003 Жыл бұрын
Well said 👏
@Necrometer Жыл бұрын
Nothing makes a wife happier than being talked at by her hubristic hubby.
@ciaranmacmahon4178 Жыл бұрын
They are afraid of debate. Well said
@Beauie81 Жыл бұрын
Heather cucks Bret so hard
@sethbracken Жыл бұрын
You forgot the fourth option: Two men enter, one man leaves. Thunderdome.
@jamessullivan4391 Жыл бұрын
Fuckin' A, Bubba!!
@dannyarcher6370 Жыл бұрын
Bret loses that one thanks to Sam's giant head taking up all the space and air in the dome.
@pjfodera Жыл бұрын
Don't sweat him Brett. Sam's lack of response or general respect has been so disappointing to his fans, that I for one, moved on. All the best to you and Heather and I look forward to your podcasts and content on a regular basis. Thanks ❤
@thescoon1 Жыл бұрын
I'm exactly the same. The anti-Trump stuff really started to get on my nerves when he would shoehorn it into literally *every* episode somehow, but then when his stance on Covid lacked *any* scepticism, I lost faith. Fast forward to him saying 'Hunter Biden could have the corpses of children in his basement - I would not have cared...' and I have to figuratively pull my jaw from the floor. He's abandoned good faith arguments and logic, for the one thing he swore he hated; dogmatic and irrational thinking.
@AnnaMishel Жыл бұрын
Sam lost me also!
@AnnaMishel Жыл бұрын
Sam knows he’s wrong, so he won’t engage.
@SilverSabre Жыл бұрын
likewise.
@ekinteko Жыл бұрын
Can someone give me a brief summary? Or perhaps link to a video? Haven't followed or heard of him for years, so I'm just puzzled as to what has happened.
@LittleTommy25 Жыл бұрын
That conversation definitely needs to happen!
@jasonofassynt Жыл бұрын
Sam has come from extreme wealth. He’s not in the public space as a career to pay the bills but rather to fulfill his own ego. I don’t think he has the minerals to stand up to you.
@trucid2 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't have the testicular fortitude, as Gad Saad would say.
@Okillydokilly69 Жыл бұрын
Insufficient minerals
@Ben-dw8ts Жыл бұрын
Nor the knowledge, I heard some of his discussions, his understanding of the immune system was terrible.
@roby72s Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely spot on. Sam Harris is a spoiled little prat. Without his parents wealth, he would perhaps be running a Subway branch.
@dm3199 Жыл бұрын
@Ben well, and his understanding of life from the perspective of a common folk is probably close to zero.
@RazorbackPT Жыл бұрын
How about you invite a virologist that disagrees with you?
@polyglot8 Жыл бұрын
As someone who appreciates both of you, I for one would like to see such a debate.
@erikbeijleveld3636 Жыл бұрын
Had appreciation for both too. Sam's mask fell off, he appears to be a frightened little boy now. Not at all the balanced enlightened intellectual anymore. Reality hit and he couldn't handle the pressure so sold his soul and quickly chose the side he thought would win. Now desperately clinging to his wrong cowardly choice. Facts don't count anymore for Sam. He is in quicksand now. All he can do is shut up and hope one of his old friends pulls him out.
@zucchinipants Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize Harris was a moral philosopher. I thought he was just a narcissist.
@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын
I think he's an immoral narcissist.
@saxplayingcompnerd Жыл бұрын
he used to be. orange man and coof broke his brain.
@rafal5863 Жыл бұрын
"moral fagging" is a narcissistic trait. The only way to take down a nerc is accelerationism. Sam's moralising exploded in the most satisfying way. The TDS was gloryous.
@joolsjeffery3939 Жыл бұрын
He’s a very confused boy desperately seeking attention and validation.
@dannyarcher6370 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't the one assume the other?
@gh0un Жыл бұрын
"You're at the end of my patience". That's a mic drop right there. As far as I'm concerned he has been far beyond what patience he might have once deserved for a really long time now. He has been wrong about absolutely everything, and yet he has been lashing out in really bizarre ways against the people who were right. I don't even think he deserves your courtesy or your time, but you still offered it to him nevertheless. So if he really thinks he has any valid point, this is his opportunity to prove it. He knows that he is going to be completely annihilated by your superior position, because he's simply wrong, and he can't admit it.
@quantumtimelines2846 Жыл бұрын
So right! I don't think Sam has the courage to face Bret! Sam is a whiny wuss!
@alex-qd6of Жыл бұрын
What was he wrong about?
@clli9458 Жыл бұрын
@@alex-qd6of you shud ask that yourself
@ANonymous-mo6xp Жыл бұрын
@@alex-qd6of in his most recent comments he said "if the vaccine had worked and the virus affected kids, the anti-vaxxers would be unforgivably wrong." Basically he said "in my la la world based on lies, you are really bad people". The jerk is so captured by the narrative that he can't even admit he was wrong.
@lydiasmith119 Жыл бұрын
This was said wonderfully! I couldn't have said it better or even add to that.
@russellmolimock Жыл бұрын
Anyone know about the QPark (Queue Park?) software environment Bret mentions? Nothing comes up in a google search. Sounds useful.
@leslovesliberty1776 Жыл бұрын
Sam is not nearly as rational as he fancies himself & far more emotionally reactive that he realizes due to a complete lack of humility or self-awareness.
@funeats8201 Жыл бұрын
Gad Saad’s response video to Sam’s terrible interview was so funny, it had me in stitches.
@Soulerous Жыл бұрын
I like Gad Saad, he's a cool guy
@NMemone Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Saad's scorching takedown Sam Harris will always be known as "The Malibu Meditator" 😂
@badassdahn654 Жыл бұрын
The Malibu meditator 😂😂😂😂
@TheDbaru Жыл бұрын
At this point the insane and cowardly ramblings coming out of Sam Harris don't surprise me anymore. What is surprising is that many people still invite him onto their shows and expect any sort of rational thought -- clearly that well has dried.
@literalghost929 Жыл бұрын
By eliminating his sane and rational viewers in his TDS era, all his followers are extreme leftists with similar ideology. He kinda built himself a nice little cult, which is ironic to say...
@cinemar Жыл бұрын
I think they just want clicks for having him on.
@derekfay7684 Жыл бұрын
They just want another Triggernometry moment.
@Kaikenney Жыл бұрын
ehmen.
@seinfan9 Жыл бұрын
He wants to convince himself that he didn't believe an obvious lie. He's a moron otherwise in his own headspace. Little does he realize, he's showcasing that he's a moron by denying reality.
@Humanaut. Жыл бұрын
Bret needs to write a book on this topic.
@matthewblackwelder6487 Жыл бұрын
I just want to see all 3 of these options being explored more for all topics going forward. The quality of discussion we'd see would be amazing
@louamato6332 Жыл бұрын
Brett, you're gracious to give the 3rd option, but if Sam needs that level of support to discuss things with you he's simply admitting that he's not qualified to have made the claims against you in the 1st place. Thank you and Heather for holding the line of reason and truth.
@dianaengland1907 Жыл бұрын
This.
@ryanshout8652 Жыл бұрын
False
@tahangrant Жыл бұрын
Third option would be a nightmare...ending up with a mountain of overly complex evidence for their audiences to pull their hair out trying to decipher, huge headache for everyone involved
@kronk358 Жыл бұрын
100%. He is a professional debater. And he has spoken extensively about all this stuff. If he doesnt have enough info for a debate by now, he didnt do his due diligence to have been speaking the way he has been. I think he might have been paid off. Its just too drastic of a difference in his capacity for logic then vs now. I know emotions can cloud peoples abilities, but this is unbelievable.
@ryanshout8652 Жыл бұрын
Bret isn’t “graciously handing out options” - he’s attempting to leverage a youtube audience to coerce Sam into a debate sams not interested in having with him. It hasn’t worked before and will not work this time.
@islaadele1212 Жыл бұрын
He's the guy who never quite got over being the smartest kid in eighth grade. We all know one, right?
@TheMasonator777 Жыл бұрын
Even in 8th grade, the smartest was stupid about some thing(s).
@cheriehumphrey5657 Жыл бұрын
I’m not so sure about how “smart” Sam is. I think he talks in circles and has become so fluid in it we mistake that for logic and intellect.
@yoyoma17 Жыл бұрын
@@cheriehumphrey5657 And he speaks in some muted, controlled modulation that some I think subconsciously perceive as that of a deep thinking human.
@MS-ho9wq Жыл бұрын
I think it's something like that. Very big chip on the shoulder. And for all his moralizing and claims of loving his fellow humans, I sense a deep rage within him toward anyone who disagrees with him.
@Tethloach1 Жыл бұрын
He is very smart along with his wife. He made atheism fun, until the hype died down and people lost steam and fractured.
@TheMuserguy Жыл бұрын
Sam is at the end of everyone's patience
@christopherg1288 Жыл бұрын
What is the Q (Queue?) park software environment he’s talking about around 5:00?
@brett2015 Жыл бұрын
Sam “if only more kids died” Harris
@saintdominicreview Жыл бұрын
Sam "Maybe the USA should nuke Iran, just in case in 50 years they build their own nukes and then attack us first'" Harris
@brett2015 Жыл бұрын
@@saintdominicreview Lol yeah he’s full of brilliant takes 😂
@FHBStudio Жыл бұрын
What's the context of this bit? I'd like a laugh here.
@dannyarcher6370 Жыл бұрын
I too would like an expansion.
@oncho1960 Жыл бұрын
Kids in the basement...
@SanSan-eo8rx Жыл бұрын
Bret is so angry about it that he’s being even more a gentleman than usual 😅
@jater10 Жыл бұрын
“You are at the end of my patience” - Bret Weinstein. We know where this is heading
@cipsahoy9639 Жыл бұрын
The “virgin” accusatory and inflammatory Sam V.S. The “chad” direct and classy Bret & Heather
@xray4720 Жыл бұрын
Yup hes pissed
@secallen Жыл бұрын
@@jater10 He is going to send Sam to his room.
@okami425 Жыл бұрын
@secallen he's gonna have Peterson make him clean it up while hes in there too
@mysidianbard5890 Жыл бұрын
Whoever is right or wrong, I would love to see a discussion between them. I feel like everyone learns a lot from this type of meeting.
@father3dollarbill Жыл бұрын
I mean, sam is wrong. But yeah.
@junimeme5626 Жыл бұрын
@@father3dollarbill Stop inciting tribalism. Let the men speak it out.
@father3dollarbill Жыл бұрын
@@junimeme5626 lol, my opinion is that he's wrong. That's not inciting anything. Wasn't even a strongly worded opinion. Calm down, as they will sort it if they want to, regardless of my words.
@imahvi Жыл бұрын
At this point it's very generous of you to refer to Sam Harris as a moral philosopher considering neither word applies.
@MrYosssup Жыл бұрын
I used to be a fan of Sam...he turned out to be such a disappointment in the past few years. I still hope he will come back to his senses eventually, but it seems that the odds of that happening just keep getting worse and worse.
@gnlout7403 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well
@reekinronald6776 Жыл бұрын
For him to "come back" he would have to openly admit he was wrong. Considering the bat-shyte reasoning he's using to keep himself from admitting he's wrong , you can safely say, he ain't comin' back.
@enry898 Жыл бұрын
One of the blessings of the Plandemic, it showed us people's true colours, it didn't make people that way, it showed that they were like that all along
@ninaluz8710 Жыл бұрын
It’s his pride!
@richardcrocker8048 Жыл бұрын
I think he may be “identified” with a political party rather than pursuit of the truth
@shawnbeban4101 Жыл бұрын
Good call out Bret. 👏 I think a lot of people running out patience with non reality folks
@danielfrihauf4095 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately a lot of non reality folks in places of influence.
@ledaswan5990 Жыл бұрын
These guys are the kings of non reality
@alex-qd6of Жыл бұрын
That's Sam Harris's take.
@ryanshout8652 Жыл бұрын
This was a pathetic call out. Eric needs to get over it and move on.
@TheAlibabatree Жыл бұрын
Please explain reality.
@HisBortness Жыл бұрын
To call someone unqualified and then in the same breath worry he's going to drop relevant studies on your head is ridiculous. Sam is worried that Bret is, indeed, very qualified and that he's going to prove it.
@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp Жыл бұрын
Well , he’s not qualified. Right ? He’s an evolutionary biologist not an epidemiologist or immunologist or anything related to expertise to talk about infectious disease and vaccines
@elliot1784 Жыл бұрын
@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp bill gates enters the chat 🤣
@darkfazer Жыл бұрын
@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp You think an evolutionary biologist is unable to comprehend a paper on viruses?
@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp Жыл бұрын
@@darkfazer Yes I do and given the fact that he’s misrepresented studies and had the authors come forward themselves and correct him not to mention that he had to even himself on one or two occasion on his own show I think definitively proves that 😂
@lukemclellan2141 Жыл бұрын
@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp what makes you qualified to make the assessment as to whether he (or anyone) is qualified for anything?
@ThatLucasGuy93 Жыл бұрын
I love that the theme song is that thing with the marbles
@straydogfreedom7795 Жыл бұрын
Kindest, most polite and most intelligent way I've ever seen someone say, "Come at me, bro" Bret Weinstein about to go from mild-mannered Bruce Banner to full on Hulk rage mode
@SolaScriptura49 Жыл бұрын
You are a gentleman and a scholar Bret!
@brooklynalehouse Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always Thank you two for getting me through the storm that was Shite from the start
@joebill663 Жыл бұрын
I'd really like to express my appreciation for the courage you both have demonstrated throughout these last few years! Fortunately for me, I live off-grid in Northern CA so I'm afforded the freedom to think freely unlike a lot of other places in the country. I studied bio and Chem on a full-scholarship which taught me to carefully consider the evidence as it unfolded and avoid an emotional response from the many people in my life and the public life to follow the CDC guidelines. This podcast was one of my only companions in that lonely position. Take care and best of luck forward. Keep the inquiry. Oh, and what about chomsky ordering us to follow medical tyranny?? What happened to that guy?
@nathanroyster1324 Жыл бұрын
Die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
@l.rongardner2150 Жыл бұрын
Chomsky's an ivory tower Marxist-fascist. He supports uber-corrupt, uber-authoritarian Joe Biden. In one of his books that I read, he said that workers for automobile manufacturing companies have the right to shared ownership of the company.
@FOTAP97 Жыл бұрын
Chomsky indeed. How our idols fall.
@gps9715 Жыл бұрын
Man, I really like Bret. Handles everything like a pro, and also no nonsense.
@ryanshout8652 Жыл бұрын
An attempt to bait someone into a debate by posting a KZfaq video is not professional. Emailing them directly is.
@MissAstorDancer Жыл бұрын
@@ryanshout8652 What makes you think he hasn't done that?
@hornox4life Жыл бұрын
@@ryanshout8652 why frame it as something nefarious, It's perfectly reasonable. Public badmouthing warants a reply.
@ryanshout8652 Жыл бұрын
@@hornox4life disagree
@ryanshout8652 Жыл бұрын
@@MissAstorDancer I did not say he hasn't done that
@markmoretti9122 Жыл бұрын
I used to love Sam Harris, he's a disaster now. Bret and Heather, you guys have taught me so much I look forward to your podcasts every week. Thanks guys.
@ALeaud Жыл бұрын
The fact that he doesn't see Trump as our best hope just shows how far Sam has fallen.
@driitzshepard2234 Жыл бұрын
@@ALeaud Sam is a disgrace but you're an idiot if you think Trump is our best hope.
@wallyhiggens5369 Жыл бұрын
I'll disagree with you a little bit on this. I don't believe Sam Harris has changed at all. I believe he has been the same the entire time.
@Tethloach1 Жыл бұрын
I loved him and deeply respect him, his legacy is great.
@lachlanbell8390 Жыл бұрын
@Wally Higgens you're absolutely correct. Regardless of anything else, I think we can agree it's a great thing that people are finally clueing on to what some of us have been saying since long before Sam devolved to the point it was undeniable.
@jizamurai Жыл бұрын
This is like a pro wrestling callout but while drinking chamomile tea ☕️
@doingthings5735 Жыл бұрын
It’s okay to acknowledge when you’re wrong, because when you acknowledge you’re wrong about something, you’re no longer wrong. Hope Sam accepts.
@bkkcanuck Жыл бұрын
Brett, you are a very decent, fair man. Good for you. Your wife and children hit the jackpot.
@tommason870 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this guy being made to look like the schmuck that he is. Brett and Heather have been consistent and based their arguments on factual evidence throughout. Keep up the good work guys!
@BurnDoubt Жыл бұрын
Watch his first debate with Jordan Peterson. Sam ends up having to devolve the discussion into whether or not objective truth exists. He argued against there being any such thing as objective truth ffs
@williambarry8015 Жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is smart enough to avoid Bret like the Plague.
@stop_and_smell_the_roses Жыл бұрын
@Urza Vectivus I'll have to hear both their arguments on objective truth.
@windtwist Жыл бұрын
Sam is a corporate douche. Pseudo humanoid. He serves the dark lord SAURON or Kraut Slob...or both. He must be getting paid big bucks to look the fool.
@BurnDoubt Жыл бұрын
@@stop_and_smell_the_roses kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMupkqarrrXKiXk.html
@OccamsRazor393 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. Love this channel.
@franckiewicz0831 Жыл бұрын
Very reasonable and respectful from Brett. Balls in Harris’ court.
@hrbeta Жыл бұрын
Bret, isn't Sam Harris the typical “fool with an advanced degree” that you, correctly often mention?
@trucid2 Жыл бұрын
He's certainly a midwit who thinks he's way smarter than he really is.
@l.sophia2803 Жыл бұрын
And inherited wealth, too..toxic combo for advanced narcissism.
@reekinronald6776 Жыл бұрын
@@l.sophia2803 True, the more vulnerable you are to the consequences of your own beliefs and ideologies, the more deeply you consider the truth of your beliefs.
@l.sophia2803 Жыл бұрын
@@reekinronald6776 Thats why my liberal friends and family dont understand about how the working classes voted for Trump..My working class friends cant believe how naive the liberal party has become. I have to say I agree with that..Odd that I know zero liberal working class, at least not at the ballot box anymore..well, ok one, but hes a boomer so...
@rationalmuscle Жыл бұрын
No, he isn't. He's acting foolish re: this for sure, and his stance on Trump is just insane. But overall, he's not a fool.
@amoscraig2227 Жыл бұрын
I thank Sam for igniting my curiosity all those years with his books and podcasts and for introducing me to the likes of Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein in those legendary panel events in Vancouver. I’m now over Sam Harris. It took a lot. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt every chance I got, but now, with his underhanded victory laps over those that got Covid right in all the places he got Covid wrong, I simply can’t trust his mind to to fairly assess what is true. Good on Bret for giving him a chance to redeem himself with a good ole conversation in good faith, but my guess is Sam will decline having already labeled Bret as an Alex Jones type, dangerous and bad for the world. Amazing Sam’s backwards evolution. Maybe Bret and Heather can speak on the phenomenon when they finally see fit not to be so nice anymore.
@QED_ Жыл бұрын
props
@claudiabarter6697 Жыл бұрын
Well said. I agree fully
@BeBopScraBoo Жыл бұрын
stuck with him after the "dead kids in basements" comment, eh?
@blairmaffin3287 Жыл бұрын
Sam has totally lost it. I cancelled my subscription to him last year. He had been on my nerves for too long with his poor opinion on covid and the years of TDS. Haven't looked back since Cya Sam
@miguele.antonetti9999 Жыл бұрын
Spot on, man 👊🏼
@stemcellhealth320 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the conversation between you both 👍🏼
@vd.s6158 Жыл бұрын
It will be an utter waste of time. The guy lost his ability to think for himself nor critically thinking about anything. Sam belongs to the past.
@TheCelticsAREboss Жыл бұрын
@@vd.s6158 It will be a waste of time because Bret is nowhere near Sam's level intellectually. Bret rose to prominence because some histrionic college students wanted him to stay home.
@vd.s6158 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCelticsAREboss Nice try but no.
@TheCelticsAREboss Жыл бұрын
@@vd.s6158 alright, chud
@jonkisor9211 Жыл бұрын
I listen to both podcast and I have been waiting for this for a long time. I wouldn't care what you guys talked about as long as the relationship got rendered. Covid is and was complex, everyone got something about it wrong at some point.
@leoandolino4668 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like my elderly aunt who now has to have blood transfusions to stay alive (her physician will not allow anymore jabs). Or the 28-year-old hospital worker who died at the medical center hours after being jabbed. Two examples of being wrong at some point.
@cosmicdancer6169 Жыл бұрын
When I’ve listened to Sam Harris all I feel is sadness for the times we are living, that he is what’s considered a Philosopher.
@literalghost929 Жыл бұрын
At one time he was, but politics ruined him. He should have stuck with religion.
@christianjmj6460 Жыл бұрын
@@literalghost929 Are politics downstream from religion?
@laertesindeed Жыл бұрын
@Cosmicdancer The definition of a philosopher appears to be someone that must be wrong about knowledge. And the definition of a moral philosopher appears to be someone that must be morally wrong about knowledge.
@literalghost929 Жыл бұрын
@@christianjmj6460 Good question. For a lot of people I'm sure they are. But you have to be really simpleminded if that's all it comes down to. But then again, 80% believe in supernatural beings, 50% in ghosts, etc., so for the majority I'm sure it is. I've never identified with any party. But these days, the right seems to be the lesser evil, even if considered the religious party. And sociologically, even if false, religion was part of the glue which held society/nation together. So getting rid of falsehoods sure, but at what cost?
@christianjmj6460 Жыл бұрын
@@literalghost929 Falsehoods are the glue of society?
@DougShoeBushcraft Жыл бұрын
He's torturing the evidence because he's too proud to be wrong. Not hard to understand.
@ffxiisucks Жыл бұрын
Brett talking as if Sam thought of him as an equal is adorable. Sam doesn't want friendly cooperation, he expects obediance.
@biocykle Жыл бұрын
That's the right thing to do though. Go in with good faith.
@father3dollarbill Жыл бұрын
I'd say "humble" instead of adorable. But yeah
@fishduckdog Жыл бұрын
Keep fighting the good fight. I like that you make people think! Thanks for sharing & Sam needs a breather!
@transfiguration8865 Жыл бұрын
It’s so sad to see how far Sam has fallen, and it really makes me question what I even liked about him to begin with. The guy has lost the plot so badly, that I feel bad for him. It’s like going to an open mic, and seeing a comedian bomb. Everyone in the room is just embarrassed for the comedian. It’s a very odd feeling, and that’s what it’s like watching Sam pop up to talk about….anything.
@vegashdrider Жыл бұрын
@Lord Phontaroy agreed, the happiest person about all this is Ben Afleck 😂
@razvanfodor5653 Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean Ben Stiller?
@SolDizZo Жыл бұрын
One person to check on if you ever knew him is TheAmazingAtheist. Well, I never will again but I mention him as a parallel here. I liked him somehow, ironically or otherwise, before he got politically unhinged… then he wrote a book in direct and early opposition to Jordan Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life… and it was deranged in cynical pessimism, post-modern deconstructionism, self-righteous elitism, and so on…
@yoyoma17 Жыл бұрын
@@SolDizZo Seems like there's a lot of that going around these days. I mean they weren't going to take the jab if DT presided over it, which he did, then they were like everyone MUST take the jab or else!
@robk5427 Жыл бұрын
@@SolDizZo I dumped TJ from my roster very early on. I wasn't impressed by assertions he made. All religions are equally harmful? There's nothing to infer from crime stats? IQ doesn't say anything about intelligence? Pass.
@cml2176 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been quite surprised to see Sam Harris actually become less logical as time goes by…I often use him in an introductory Highschool logic class for examples of basic logical fallacies. It’s alarming.
@thegreatinitiate Жыл бұрын
Sam needs another heroic dose of mushrooms.
@danielangst7948 Жыл бұрын
We all are happy you did what you‘ve done!! Thanks
@samfuller3309 Жыл бұрын
It can't be civil. He's clothed himself in too many layers of his own certainty. His ego won't allow an admition of wrong.
@dandee6331 Жыл бұрын
Oh man would this be incredible to watch. Bret just school Sam for 90 minutes, Peterson looking fly in his Two Face jacket, and Sam just having a Mental Breakdown...
@brianbridges8124 Жыл бұрын
You mean Peterson breaking down in tears and whinging like he does in nearly every interview..... Harris hasnt had any mental breakdowns that I know, petersons had a few.
@dandee6331 Жыл бұрын
@brian bridges Look up Sam Harrtis and Trigganomitry....the entire interview is a mental breakdown....dude is riddled with TDS. Trump broke him.
@parvent3556 Жыл бұрын
Education and entertainment both at the same time.
@mileyondrumz Жыл бұрын
Anyone know which of Sam’s videos/podcasts Bret is referring to?
@toojb9294 Жыл бұрын
Would someone kindly direct me to where Harris spoke about what Bret's talking about here? I've been a bit out of the loop with him of late
@D_B_Cooper Жыл бұрын
If only everything had been different then Sam would have been right!!! Why can’t everyone accept that, and get back to worshipping him?
@QED_ Жыл бұрын
props
@Trazynn Жыл бұрын
That guy was my hero in college. Got all his books. That last attempt at 'if things were different I'd be right' is so incredibly asinine.
@jdavis2581 Жыл бұрын
What is the controversy about? I can’t seem to find any sources that discuss it!
@edwinramirez1019 Жыл бұрын
Wondering if they will get a venue to sell tickets.
@beentheredoneization Жыл бұрын
'Sam is a moral philosopher ..' He's much more so a combination of IMMORAL AND AMORAL .
@Patch_duress Жыл бұрын
Is that really Sam Harris’ job? After his Triggernometry interview, I call 🐄💩
@BobWidlefish Жыл бұрын
Fact-check: true!
@missykins3193 Жыл бұрын
@Homer Dummy Well said!
@kennyg1358 Жыл бұрын
Sam is possessed by the spirit of Reddit.
@allcapsbeats Жыл бұрын
Can someone provide me with a link referencing what Bret is referring to? What's going down with Harris? I've been so out of the loop with him for a while now.
@rjlee818 Жыл бұрын
4th possibility is a gentleman’s duel with knives.
@kurtisdiston4851 Жыл бұрын
Sam's been increasingly off point as times went on. Brett on the other hand, has been consistent as the first time I heard from him.
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
He needs to take a serious break for couple of months. No news or nothing at all and just decompress. He's literally losing his mind. Hes gonna be babbling about christianity like jordan peterson soon.
@Ajax.86 Жыл бұрын
It's ironic that Sam Harris started his making sense podcast because he wanted to have "difficult conversations" with people. He observed, quite accurately, that there is currently a widespread breakdown in conversation in society, and his podcast was designed to be a countervailing force against this breakdown. Yet he has struggled to maintain basic civility and ongoing conversations with people who were formerly friends and colleagues, or people with whom he would otherwise talk constructively. And the breakdown in these relationships seems very much to have been on his initiation.
@jackcraig992 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware he'd had any other falling outs. Who else are you referring to?
@Ajax.86 Жыл бұрын
@Jack Craig My understanding is that he now has a much more distant relationship with Gaad Saad and Joe Rogan, in addition to falling out with Bret. He was very critical of Joe Rogan's podcast with Robert Malone, which in itself is perfectly fine, but the way he spoke about JR isn't the way I'd expect him to speak about his friends publicly. He hasn't spoken with him publicly since. He also fell out with Dan Dennet due to their disagreements on free will.
@naysayer1238 Жыл бұрын
@@curious_thinker No, he fell out with thousands including Gad when they all realized that he is a totally unhinged partisan hack.
@TTFMjock Жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is the least qualified person on Earth to have "difficult conversations" with anyone. He has always been an arrogant blowhard who built his name from insulting people and spewing out belligerent, doltish juvenalia. His outing himself as a borderline personality is the least surprising event ever.
@Ajax.86 Жыл бұрын
@curious_thinker the same Gad Saad who formerly appeared on the Sam Harris podcast? As I said, these were the people Sam Harris could formerly have civil conversations with. He now seems incapable of doing so. Gad Saad, Bret Weinstein, Joe Rogan, Dan Dennett... Sam is the common denominator
@somedude1666 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like an intellectual version of a mafia sit-down. Lol
@Terry_Dactyl Жыл бұрын
Bret went from the humble moderator of that infamous 3-part IDW debate between JP and SH, to reigning champion of the IDW. Love it!
@samuelboucher1454 Жыл бұрын
Talk about a Dark Horse candidate!
@Marco-tb9jy Жыл бұрын
The IDW doesn't exist
@POCO71 Жыл бұрын
if this is not a modern version of the 'Glove across the face" challenge, I don't know what would be. I agree with Brett whole heartedly here.
@cipsahoy9639 Жыл бұрын
Man, I remember back in high school and college Sam was my gateway to the deep conversations we all crave. Like many, I had my athiest/religion phase and youtube was still growing to become a space hosting debates for the arguments. Sam was my favorite intellectual followed closely by Richard Dawkins due to their more humble approach to conversation (at least in my view at the time). While the edgy athiest in me at the time enjoyed Christopher Hitchens “destroying” creationists in debates, Sam offered something more. He was a gateway to other deep conversations I never had anywhere else with talks regarding free will, meditation, morality, ect. If it wasn’t for him, I may never have discovered others like Jordan Peterson (who I hated in the beginning due to Sam’s influence) and now my favorite people in the world outside of my family: Bret and Heather. It’s been a ride, and thankfully I’ve ended up here and not stuck there. Sam was never all I thought he was, but now he’s certainly taken a turn for the worse. It’s a shame.
@ready1fire1aim1 Жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@tanner9072 Жыл бұрын
Your description of events is almost identical to mine. I remember thinking of myself as the edgy atheist who had to fight against the foolish irrationality of religion everywhere I encountered it. I absorbed myself with the early KZfaq world of debates involving atheism vs. creationism arguments. I went from watching people like Matt Dillahunty and Sam Harris and thinking they were the pinnacle of intellectual honesty, only to find them 10 years later spewing nothing but the same style of zealous hatred and irrationality (from the left) that made me despise the religious right in the first place. Strange times.
@erinlikesacornishpasty4703 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I only really knew Sam Harris from his very brief encounter with Ben Afleck on late night television. My gateway to the intellectual dark web was the Evergreen state college, which is perhaps as embarrassing. I suppose we all outgrow the heroes of our youth 🤷♀️.
@prariedogg2529 Жыл бұрын
I imagine there are a lot of us out there with contrarian dispositions who have followed similar philosophical paths. The better your nose gets at sniffing out bullshit, the more you appreciate people like Bret and Heather. You also lose respect for people who came to prominence by bullying easy targets like religion.
@tonyc223 Жыл бұрын
@@prariedogg2529 Yes, with Sam all the worlds problems go back to Jesus, Mohammad orTrump. Being a lazy Catholic this was a red flag for me.
@phillipjolly6287 Жыл бұрын
Bret: Challenged extended Sam: tumbleweed
@kickstar1 Жыл бұрын
This is the 21st century version of when Mötley Crue's singer Vince Neil challenged Axl Rose to a public fight back in the 20th century.
@4dabeauty Жыл бұрын
2:31 I'm living for Heather's "thug life" look to the camera when her man challenges Sam 😎
@teamgay Жыл бұрын
I watched a video where Sam was creating alternative hypothetical scenarios that would have justified all his actions in order to make himself sound correct. Psychopath level stuff. I would love to see a debate between Bret and Sam.
@halloola3636 Жыл бұрын
Hey, that guy wrote "in defense of torture" after 911... He´s always been a psychopathic fascist.
@cs7046 Жыл бұрын
what video was that
@joyduncan9434 Жыл бұрын
@@cs7046 It is a recent one where he goes on and on and on about what if ( WHAT IF??? ) Covid had been way more deadly ( killing children left and right ) then all of the lockdowns and vaccine mandates and mask wearing would be 100% necessary . He does not grasp AT ALL that that was NOT the scenario- hypothetical situations are just that ( hypothetical and not the reality ) and the scenario is what it was which most logical people who follow Bret and Heather see. Sam seriously lost the plot.
@Jeffski82 Жыл бұрын
@@cs7046 I didn't see Sam's video, but Jimmy Dore covered it recently: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f8xpgdOonc3GlYk.html
@AA-gu4mw Жыл бұрын
Narcissism.
@muumarlin1731 Жыл бұрын
Bret - I deeply admire you for your intellectual integrity and devotion to truth. Thank you for modeling something that is so rare in the world. Thank you! And I do hope that more people will learn from you and successfully emulate.
@Jordancripps08 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons I’ve fallen in love with this podcast. Giving the benefit of the doubt, and also being willing to not just getting into an emotional shouting match, is the perfect way to start out in searching for the truth. And also, leave as friends, or at least not enemies. Well done!
@Hein99 Жыл бұрын
Sam owes you a massive apology. What a clown.
@puzzles4breakfast275 Жыл бұрын
Do it on Rogan again!!!
@crztank9298 Жыл бұрын
Sam is morally corrupt and a hack. He proved himself such on trigonometry
@inigomontoya8943 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, that closing was very good.
@David-eu1ms Жыл бұрын
Our destination is predetermined, but it is up to us to choose which roads we take.
@ParadiseInHawaii0com Жыл бұрын
🤔 One phrase will describe Sam’s consciousness, “Mass Formation Psychosis” Don’t expect any chance for a member of this cult to change until they FA and FO themselves.
@dion8962 Жыл бұрын
Along side so many others, like Neil Degrasse Tyson. They have gone off the rails... Glad to see folks like Bret and Heather still holding the line.
@vegashdrider Жыл бұрын
@@dion8962 always thought Tyson was a fraud, now it’s confirmed
@Milestonemonger Жыл бұрын
Sam makes the technical error of hating his enemies. It clouds his judgment.
@kenhiett5266 Жыл бұрын
It's as if he doesn't understand the implications of his position on free will.
@prestonbane4176 Жыл бұрын
What did Sam say/tweet/write? What is all this referring to most recently? I know the feud has been ongoing but it sounds like SH said something like days before this podcast? Anybody have a link?
@Acc3z Жыл бұрын
Can someone share any videos that Bret mentions at the beginning of this video (i.e., where Sam is calling out Bret). I have only seen the Gadfather and his meticulous analysis of the malibu meditator's logic. Thank you.
@janvanhalteren8120 Жыл бұрын
This is an issue of the quality of one's soul. You're a good man, Bret, and Sam Harris is not. It's that simple. .He's not going to talk to you. Evil does not come into the light. They lose all their power if they do.
@psychegoddessoflight9358 Жыл бұрын
Precisely. Harris rejected the objective truth of matters again & again; such people remain stuck in their delusions, borne of denial, to protect an insecure ego. Sam’s ego looks at rescinding or even revising his statements as akin to committing suicide, bc the imbalanced ego equates such humbling reckonings with death itself.
@vaughnprecision Жыл бұрын
Seems like you offered some great options, I’d like to see Sam and you talk this out like civil human beings
@stirfrybry1 Жыл бұрын
Sam made his argument "If things were worse, I would have been right". He simply can't face how wrong he was or he's not being honest and has an agenda
@JJHurst Жыл бұрын
There's a simpler way..... Two pairs of boxing gloves, one ring and a referee.
@ChubbyChamps Жыл бұрын
Bret got gangsta at the end "You're at the end of my patience" 🤣😂🤣
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