Breville Smart Coffee Grinder Pro Review

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If you're looking for best grinding results, the Breville Smart Grinder Pro is for you. When you’re serious about your coffee, then you already know that the grind is everything.
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00:00 Introduction
00:23 Build
00:37 Beans Hopper
01:21 40mm Burrs
01:57 LCD Display
02:45 Changing the Grind
03:50 Grinding Performance
04:07 Upper Burr Carrier Grind Adjustment
04:35 Grinds Catcher & Portafilter Cradle
05:43 Noise and Retention
07:17 Breville vs Niche Zero
The Breville Smart Grinder Pro has 60 grind settings and uses 40mm conical burrs engineered to grind for all brewing methods including espresso. This high-performance coffee grinder includes an array of features that make it easy to grind and brew your favourite coffee. It will also allow you to grind directly into a portafilter or air-tight container, allowing you to grind fresh coffee in seconds. With 60 Grind Settings, you can customise, depending on your brewer of choice.
So whether it’s a French Press, Stovetop Moka or daily Espresso, the time-based grinding feature ensures accuracy for your dose, which lead to less waste. The Smart Grinder Pro remembers your preferences and stores them in its memory so you can grind the same amount every time with perfect consistency.
Breville Smart Grinder Pro Features
Fresh Ground Coffee in seconds - Experience the flavour and aroma of fresh coffee every day.
Memory Settings - Set up your Grinder once and it’ll remember how much and what grind size.
60 Grind Settings - Adjustable for a fine Espresso grind all the way coarse to a French Press grind.
Fast, Time-Based Dosing - Using the LCD display, the program you dose in 0.2sec increments.
450g Hopper - Large hopper holding week's worth of beans ready to grind at the push of a button.
Stainless Steel Housing - Sturdy and durable steel housing for a premium grinder.
This Product Includes
Breville Smart Grinder Pro
Portafilter Cradles: Small 50-54 mm Large 58 mm
Grinds Container with Lid & Sealing Cap
Grinder Cleaning Brush
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@redrich2000 Жыл бұрын

Love that you posted this despite failing the taste test. It's a great reminder of how much closer a lot of gear is and also that a lot of the differences are subjective.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Great point! Yeah 😂 I was totally shock by the outcome - and my I watched my body language in that moment - I touch my nose, laugh and than I'm like OKAY ... did not see that coming 😂

@jiffjiffernson7292 Жыл бұрын

- Another *excellent review on the channel. - He didn't fail a taste test. That is a flawed premise. He was attempting to ascribe a set of distinctive nature or features of taste or palate characterization to a grinder - and perhaps to prior tastings and perception - against info he as yet did not have. It is a interesting challenge and means to inform oneself of his palate and make an informed decison. - Not considered but impactful may have been the effect of benefit of WDT in the Breville and the unkown possibility of quakers in either unless sorted.

@noahmn4985 Жыл бұрын

It was a win though i find out i dont need an expensive grinder😅

@whiskeyinthejar24 Жыл бұрын

@@noahmn4985I guess the big difference will probably be longevity. That plastic burr housing etc.

@MrSteamDragon 9 ай бұрын

@@whiskeyinthejar24 indeed. Note though, the plastic upper burr housing does not rotate when in use, therefore should not be subjected to excessive force (in normal domestic use). There are posts on youtube showing these grinders still in use after 5 years…YMMV of course 😊

@samsaw11 Жыл бұрын

It’s funny. I respect your channel even more now. A lot of people aren’t willing to blind taste test at the expense of their own reputation, especially in the event that their choice was “incorrect”. Most of the time people just think more expensive means much better without really putting that to the test. Thanks a lot for making this video 🫡

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Sam! We're not an independent reviewer so people will always doubt our intentions or bias. Though I hope through this - and many more interactions that are filmed unscripted and without conclusions - this may alleviate the notion we're simply making videos to sell the items 👌

@lisalo.lisalo 6 ай бұрын

I’m just bored of most coffee people who always talk down about this grinder. Glad to come across this video of yours and you talked about this grinder in a positive way ◡̈

@AlternativeBrewing 6 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! Thanks for watching

@freightdawg6762 3 ай бұрын

Ive had mine for about a year and its been flawless

@Im_AshParker 2 ай бұрын

@freightdawg6762 what do you generally grind for? Im looking for one that is great with espresso grinds. A few forums that I read said it didn't do well with lighter roasts. Any recommendations?

@freightdawg6762 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@Im_AshParker i do med/dark roasts for espresso, never done a light roast sorry

@DrKumkar Жыл бұрын

Hey I really appreciate the unbiased and “not bought out” take u provided. It is totally priceless and much appreciated

@BrianVallotton Жыл бұрын

As a novice audiophile I find that there are similarities between fine coffees/espressos and music enjoyment. The placebo effect is real and your very honest presentation proves that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You can still make a lousy cup of espresso or poorly tune music even with the best equipment... and the best brewers/players can use practically anything and make it taste/sound good! Meanwhile I do still appreciate the details and quality of good equipment. God bless you and all you love.

@BrianVallotton Жыл бұрын

@catastrofy Thanks for sharing your experience with me. It also applies to Gear Acquirement Syndrome GAS. Chasing after the next piece of new gear… when I need to be spending more time practicing my guitar! God bless!

@greg5892 10 ай бұрын

Hate to throw in a wrench here, but observed placebo effects are often actually just misattributed observations of regression toward the mean.

@BrianVallotton 10 ай бұрын

@@greg5892 so people tend to be able to tell the difference even if it is on accident? 🤪

@dazcjm Жыл бұрын

I've just bought this, and your comparison gives me confidence in it. Much appreciated

@Ed-ch4wq Жыл бұрын

I had this Breville for close to 5 years now and I recently retired it from espresso grinding by getting the eureka Oro XL. I will still use this to grind more coarse grinds for drip coffee though. Honestly this is a fantastic machine for the price point and can't really go wrong with it. The reasons why I upgraded grinder is because I wanted more fluffier grinds and shorter grind time. Some pro about Breville is that it's super beginner friendly. Really easy to take out the hopper to clean the burr & the digital display is fantastic when you want to change to a different coffee brewing type.

@GuitarTherapy144 6 ай бұрын

was it good enough to get an italian sort of thickish creamy espresso? its all im looking for. an italian 30ml espresso...

@conteh4447 Жыл бұрын

So I have had mine for about three years and got it from a friend who moved and had it for maybe two more. The "cup" feature is pretty much a pre-set, you program it yourself, which totally makes it useable. I use it all the time, 7 cups, 34.4 seconds grind for my moccamaster, is perfect. I have a setting for my french press, that makes a strong cup of coffee the way I like it. I love mine.

@xXStickArmsXx Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the honesty in the review.

@dolankel6293 Жыл бұрын

Great job! Thank you for your honest transparency.👍🏽

@tamho4239 9 ай бұрын

I just ordered the breville and mixer , thanks for the Laugh! :)

@smallsneakers7000 Жыл бұрын

I always follow this channel for their product reviews and I have a Breville Espresso Machine with a built in grinder. Overtime, I thought I could be doing something different to improve my routine and enhance my understanding of it for a better, more consistent result with flavour and extraction. This video helped me understand so much better and proved that I definitely shouldn't blame the tools xD especially compared with a niche, which is the grinder I considered getting separate, it was good to see a fair comparison between the two Thanks 👍🏼

@Michael-4 3 ай бұрын

I was on the edge of my seat with the drama. 😆

@jrwardle1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh, I'm new to "quality" home espresso making and am finding your videos super useful ! They're honest, thorough, insightful yet concise. Liked & subscribed 😀👍

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Thanks so much for watching and If there's anything I can help with, let me know

@user-fz8mk2ty7f 3 ай бұрын

You kept it real ! Breville can make nice espresso shots and for an entry level grinder , it's enough money to spend on a grinder to make nice espresso. I was so stressed out thinking I needed to go broke to get my expensive grinder . Thanks for the video 😀

@AlternativeBrewing 3 ай бұрын

You got that right! Your welcome

@ADHDgoofy Жыл бұрын

Great review. Thanks for all the details. As someone with young kids and light sleepers who likes to grind at time of brewing, noise is a factor imo. Was glad to hear the audio seemed real time so I could measure the sound

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@daglar64 Жыл бұрын

Breville Pro is a really great grinder. I had mine, I don't know for how long. Probably seven years or eight. Still works great. I just got a Fiorenzato, which is spectacular. I'll keep my Breville as backup. Great review 🎉

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much 👌 quality for the price I agree

@deadlypalms 10 ай бұрын

Always good to find an authentically helpful and progressive coffee channel on YT - particularly with the level of detail here. I've been looking for an entry level espresso grinder (electric) and this is really interesting to see - the Sage looks great on many levels and seems less convoluted than a few others in that price range (Fellow Onus etc). Fascinating to see how the taste extraction differed with that roast to the Niche too. Thanks for the upload.

@AlternativeBrewing 10 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@imnotgivingyoumyname810 Жыл бұрын

Yay, I'm even more confident that i got the right grinder now. Can't wait to give it a go. Had a cheap cuisinart grinder until now, ordered it because it was 25% off.

@dekac011 Жыл бұрын

had to hit subscribe after watching this... Interesting, informative, well spoken and clear.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome aboard 😀

@Kurufasulye06 2 ай бұрын

With this brilliant, honest review, you have gained my respect and also a new subscriber. Cheers from Ankara!

@AlternativeBrewing 2 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you! 🫶

@dom1701d 2 ай бұрын

Such an honest and awesome review

@AlternativeBrewing 2 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

@thecoffee2820 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for Review 👍

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@Cliff-M- Жыл бұрын

Really excellent review, thank you.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@williammcgreal4366 5 ай бұрын

The Smart Grinder Pro was my first burr grinder. I loved the options, ease to clean. As I upgraded to better espresso machine, I found dialing in cludgy on the Breville and moved to the Sette 270. However, I collected Smart Pro Grinders over those years and supplied my wife and kids with these for their own coffee stations (wife’s art studio). Mine sits below my station in a cabinet but this video has inspired me to resurrect it and give it another go…experimentally. Loved everything about your production. Truly. Thanks.

@AlternativeBrewing 5 ай бұрын

Nice! Good luck

@rtaylor3350 7 ай бұрын

I've had my Breville grinder since at least 2012 and still going strong

@AlternativeBrewing 7 ай бұрын

the best!

@mangkus1638 5 ай бұрын

coffeegeek brought me here❤️.. This got me confused if I shld. let go of my BSGP or research and learn more from it .... I am mainly focused on espresso, so for the mean time, I'm gonna hold on to it. Thanks for the review☕

@AlternativeBrewing 5 ай бұрын

Unreal 🤘

@WirableCrown1 Жыл бұрын

Seems to be an exact copy of the grinder attached to their espresso machines, and I have had great success with that grinder for espresso and drip

@JSmith73 Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, debating whether to replace my Barista Express (which has been excellent, but is going to a new place after a service) with the same or get a Dual Boiler with this grinder; you've just made up my mind. Absolutely loved your honesty and will be watching your channel to learn more; can't wait for the upgrade.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Best of luck! Thanks so much for tuning in

@pappito Жыл бұрын

I'm using this Breville for a few months now and you can save grind time to ech grind settings pressing and holding the grind time adjustment knob, that helps with single dosing. We use V60 and aeropress and the grind times saved to each settings is very convenient, especially when brewing single or double pourovers. Also the amount of cups with the middle button changes to shots if you go down to espresso range, I really appreciate this small design feats. Closer to zero retention is definitely better with the Niche but price to value ratio the small breville is unbeatable in my opinion. I can buy a lot of great quality coffee with that price difference. (we don't do espresso at home so I'm not sure what's going on with consystency at that grind size)

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Yeah - that's a perfect scenario 100% It has great value to it 👌 Thanks for watching

@relaxandlivelife7093 10 ай бұрын

Awesome video 👏

@AlternativeBrewing 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@nowtospot Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a great review..I am just starting to grind coffee and have just purchased the breville.. cant wait to pick it up and get started

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@0Laughingbeagles0 3 ай бұрын

Amazingly Josh from Alternative Brewing is also Josh from Desky. Nice one Josh, good to see you're getting plenty of work mate.

@AlternativeBrewing 3 ай бұрын

hahaha 😂 Thanks for that!

@BlueSky78683 8 ай бұрын

i have been grinding with the lid off, and it's always a mess! I just saw another brand has a canister attached so it made me wonder if I had been using mine wrong and sure enugh i had been! ugh! glad i saw this video

@rohanlg790 Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen so many videos, not giving good reviews about the Breville grinder. I’ve used it now for a couple of years with my dual boiler. Compared to any other Grinder that makes decent espresso, you cannot beat the price point. I guess the niche will last longer as it’s higher quality. But honestly idk why the breville gets so much hate

@marcusbrown8136 Жыл бұрын

It’s funny, I went from breville to a niche. Some elements I wish I still had of the breville. Alas the niche does come into its own once’s dialled in. It’s quieter, easier to keep clean. And makes brighter coffees. Alas the chocolates and nuts you describe are things I do miss as well. Can’t have both worlds right. The wife sold the breville as it was loud and I spent so much on the niche.

@regulartom5736 Жыл бұрын

I've used the smart grinder pro as my daily grinder for espresso for about 6 years now. I've been really impressed with the build quality, had no issues with it, the only thing I've had to do is adjust the inner burr settings up 3 notches over the years. Yeah, you do get some clumping, but as demonstrated in your video WDT takes care of it pretty easily. I've been able to consistently dial in really nice espresso, with very little channeling. Fantastic beginner grinder, I'm looking at upgrading mostly out of curiosity/FOMO, but like the idea of single dosing and maybe trying out flat burrs.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! yeah - A flat burr would be the unmistakable best next move to make. Something like a Eureka Mignon - and you can get parts for it now to take it from a 300g Hopper to a Single Dosing Bellows. Mignon's are fantastic commercial grade grinders - and will certainly off similar if not better longevity, as well as a different flavour profile.

@Johnnybananass-_ Жыл бұрын

Just bought the breville after a real struggle with the Precision Gs2 . So hoping this next Grinder is the better choice

@MrSteamDragon 9 ай бұрын

I love my recently purchased Smart Grinder Pro - as an 'entry level' serious grinder it has the ability to dial in the grind size to suit almost any style of coffee. The selling point for me was the ability to adjust the burr. I am sure they are out there somewhere but I couldn't find another grinder at this price-point with the same feature. As Joshua said, you probably won't use it a lot, but it's nice to know it's there if you do. Incidentally, out of the box I felt the grind size at setting 60 for French Press was not coarse enough. A quick tweak of the burr solved this. The grinder is very quiet to use and is easy to clean. To date, have brewed lots of Moka and French press with very good and consistent results. Being new to the hobby I wanted something I could use easily, provides a lot of versatility, gives me consistent results and that I wouldn't have to sell a kidney to buy it. Highly recommended.☕

@flawwed39 Жыл бұрын

Great content....love it

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@matthewcampbell1893 Жыл бұрын

Cool video! I’ve got a bsgp and can confirm it makes a tasty coffee. My theory or the difference between each is that the smart grinder pro is a little bit less consistent when it comes to the particle size distribution. The larger percentage of grinds in the courser end of the bell curve are likely contributing to the acidic fruit flavour you were describing.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

I totally agree!

@jiewwantan977 Жыл бұрын

I have the Smart grinder which I bought together with my Dual boilder. I have been considering the Niche. Looks like it is really incremental improvement from Breveille to Niche, if there is. Proper puck prep plays a crucial part.

@chrisdturner Жыл бұрын

I moved from this to a Niche. The niche is a nice upgrade in terms of better work flow (much better for single dosing) and does make better espresso and filter compared to this. The smart grinder is really good for the money though and you don't miss out massively in terms of taste compared to a Niche. I think WDT with niche still helps. Overall I tend to get less astringency from the niche despite the outcome of the test in the video! It's easier to dial in too.

@jiewwantan977 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdturner Agreed. The amount of retention in the Breville grinder is additional step in the workflow. For now, I use a collapsible rubber cup as a blower. If taste is better with less astringency in Niche, that's a worthy consideration. Another conical burr grinder to consider is the Weber Key with a bigger burr, variable speed and flexible voltage (good for travel/relocation). But it would be double that of Niche price and easily quadruple of Breville. Maybe for final upgrade?

@chrisdturner Жыл бұрын

@@jiewwantan977 yeah, definitely diminishing returns on investment above the price of a smart grinder.

@DarkFire515 Жыл бұрын

One benefit of the cup number button on the Breville - when it's 5AM and I'm making my coffe before heading off to work, doing time multiplication in my head isn't really going to be a thing. Dialling the grind time for 1 cup or shot then simply pressing for more removes mental effort before I've had my 1st coffee.

@penguinfarm907 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate the objectivity, good review, pacing and scripting could be improved. Good luck with the channel!

@AlternativeBrewing 8 ай бұрын

Much appreciated! pacing and scripting could be improved >> how so?

@JulianFernandez Жыл бұрын

thanks so much!

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

No worries!

@robcarpenter303 Жыл бұрын

Great video, I do have this grinder and have used for a couple of years. She did start to waver a bit over time but recently changed the burr set and now it’s working like a champ again. However I am considering the Niche Zero, not to replace but to go along side and will become my primary espresso grinder with the Sage becoming my drip grinder. Personally, through trial and error and a little extra effort like yourself have produced some great coffee with this machine. Thanks again Josh great vid 👍🏻

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

my pleasure! thanks for sharing your experiences 🫶

@surajsharma10008 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@AlternativeBrewing 6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@Edlouis564 Жыл бұрын

For anyone who just got it, my grind settings for medium-dark beans for espresso, I set the internal burr to 1 and the digital counter between 18-20. my machine (revile bambino plus) chokes out as his setting of 8-15.

@ilovemetal7552 Жыл бұрын

Good video:)

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@KellyanneGill Жыл бұрын

I found using a dosing pot with a lid worked well with this grinder, a few good shakes very few lumps

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Great tip!

@daddydoescomedy Жыл бұрын

Great review, just ordered a smart grinder as I'm just getting into making better coffee

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@Barney_Greenway Жыл бұрын

Finally, a Niche killer! 😜

@LachieMcg Жыл бұрын

Had this grinder for a while now but I learned a few things from your review. Didn’t know there was a single dose option or find adjustment. There does seem to be some weird quirks to the ratio of time, cups and grind size.

@1redgate8 4 ай бұрын

Had this grinder for about eight years, still going strong...though the machine it came with perished after four years 😳

@SiegfriedGlina 5 ай бұрын

Excellent honest review. Thanks.

@AlternativeBrewing 5 ай бұрын

No problem!

@jakevan1969 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Love it. That was illuminating. Very interesting. Thanks for this comparison. I have the Breville Barista Express which has the same built-in grinder and have brewed some tasty espressos. I wonder about an upgrade but am not sure if it is worth it, or if a conical or flat burr grinder is the way to go. I have tried the 1ZPresso with it which has been great. The flat burr might provide some.different flavors?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Very cool! Yeah - a flat burr grinder is going to provide a very different flavour profile to what you're already tasting - and it's honestly nice to have both - so you can go back and forwards occasionally

@dharellesison3317 Жыл бұрын

It's funny! I love your reaction when you saw that it is not the niche! It is convincing to me, as a beginner struggling to find a grinder at home at cheap price! May I know the coffee bean you used?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! They were a Toby's Estate coffee. Freshly roasted within a two weeks. alternativebrewing.com.au/collections/tobys-estate-coffee

@GIB_H 9 ай бұрын

great video. I have the Breville smart grinder pro as well. Did you adjust the burr grinder internally as well beside setting it at 12.

@AlternativeBrewing 9 ай бұрын

Yes I did - I set my internal setting to 1 - the finest it will go.

@emrahozcan3299 Жыл бұрын

thanks alot

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

No worries!

@kitcraft9516 Жыл бұрын

Will this grinder have any issues, in the espresso range, with light roasts? (around 70-74 agtron)

@JKTF476 Жыл бұрын

Please compare the breville bambino to the gaggia classic pro. Great video

@innerlocus Жыл бұрын

Of all the Niche Zero killer videos, this one should go viral. Perhaps you could rename it as I was about to buy a Turin™ SD40 conical grinder that only does espressos.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

😂 Haha thanks for watching! I was a little shocked by the outcome myself - i had imagined a much larger gap in the quality of the espresso.

@innerlocus Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing 👍🏼The Eureka Mignon Notte, is now on my wish list as I'm getting ready to buy something to help make my Solis work with an open portafilter. ☕

@rxonmymind8362 2 ай бұрын

If this grinder is too loud the Niche is a great one but more expensive. Comparing apples to apples the Kitchenaid espresso grinder Model KCG8433ER is 71db beaten by the Niche, M4, Hedone Honne, Weber Key and even the Atom 75 at 68db is very respectable. The fact the Kitchenaid can go from filter to drip to espresso is an added bonus. 71db is my baseline for any future grinder especially important in the mornings. Honorable mention DF64 on 600 rpm grind settings is 73. Not bad. I'll add to this list as I find more information.

@edipisreks5535 Жыл бұрын

It will be interesting to see what Breville comes out with in the future, incorporating Baratza. I’ve never cared much for these grinders (I sure like the simplicity of my Niche over all the fiddling), but I own and really like many Breville products (including my dual boiler), but this line always felt like a miss.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

It may still take some time before we see any crossovers. Likely Breville will be enhanced by Baratza then the other way around IMO. I'd agree, the Simplicity of a Niche is unmatched. I do believe Breville have the capacity to bring a Grinder out that really competes in the sphere, but only time will tell

@morvey77 9 ай бұрын

Great work 👌, I need your help in adjusting my Breville smart grinder , I have lelit Mara x with bottomless portafilter , what you recommend for inner burr setting ? For espresso?

@AlternativeBrewing 9 ай бұрын

I would recommend setting it to a 1 or 2. The finest it can go - especially with both a good machine and Bottomless basket 👌

@brochacho6355 8 ай бұрын

Could anyone tell me what would be best grind size to use on the DeLonghi Dedica Arte espresso machine? I do 12 and I’ve changed out screens and use espresso pucks and I’m still not getting good crema but a lot of residual water and spraying.

@needmorebeans Жыл бұрын

I would love to see an X-Pro review! Esp versus JX-Pro and Comandante!

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

It’s up! 👍

@muhammadfulkihafiyyan3415 Жыл бұрын

Great video👍, I would like to ask if the espresso grind produced by the machine is suitable for use with the Flair?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely

@willba4 16 күн бұрын

i've had my SGP for 6 years now paired with a rocket appartamento, and the worst thing about it? its "good enough" that it makes it hard to justify upgrading to a new grinder without spending stupid amounts of money. i've tried the neiche zero (family member has one) and its BEAUTIFUL. but until mine dies... its almost impossible to justify. just dont do it people. buy something a little nicer or you'll get stuck with it FOREVER! the build quality, and the feel of the interaction with the neiche just has no comparison to the SMP. its built like a kitchenaid mixer. so solid! even if there is no difference between the actual coffee. the interaction with the neiche is so much nicer. (granted.... i got my SGP for $150aud.... so it was a steal, pre covid prices woo!)

@Djsjdbxhnf Жыл бұрын

Initially, I can only get 3 bar with bse 920 using single wall basket even set grind size to 1. Changed inner burr to 4 and problem solved.

@z3221313 10 ай бұрын

Ive got the smart grinder pro for probably 10 years now and its clumping on finer grind settings, particularly as ive been trying different roasters. looking to upgrade although the wife doesnt like to fuss with grinding so single dose might not be an option for me :(

@richardbraal622 Ай бұрын

Great review and nice that you blind tested. Doubting to buy this grinder. I have the sage/breville barista pro with built in grinder. The grinder cones seem built similar. What quality/comfort will I gain from this grinder?

@AlternativeBrewing Ай бұрын

better consistency between grind settings and grind to time. The in-built grinder is slightly less reliable and has a habit of becoming very dirty and clogged with old grounds, versus the BSGP that, as a stand-along Grinder - is built for the one job and is more easily able to be serviced on and cleaned out, separate to the machine.

@TravelingThruLife Жыл бұрын

Came for the hoppers

@Cezve_340ml Жыл бұрын

Hi again Joshua! Recently, I was asking you about some hand grinders, whether they are capable of grinding for Turkish coffee. So, same question here: will this Breville do the job, or at this price point I wouldn't be able to beat the hand grinder for this method? Thanks!

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

I would say, on a consistent level, I would not use the Breville for Turkish. It would eventually clog. The Knock Aergrind would be my first choice for affordable grinders - although it’s Manual, it’s very smooth grinding at any setting, including Turkish

@joshdale Жыл бұрын

Great video! Love the comparison between the Niche too! How do you think the Breville compares to the Eureka Manuale for both espresso & filter? The Eureka is stepless so seems to have more settings but it's not as convenient switching between espresso & filter. After that comparison I'm starting to think the Breville will have enough settings for dialling in properly and it's quick to switch to filter. Would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Good question! Eureka I would say is the overall better build quality, with Flat Burrs - (but in saying that, i know people who've had a BSGP for 8 years no issues) - The breville is a Conical burr grinder - so great for espresso and okay for filter. Yes - if you're jumping back and forth with espresso and Filter I'd prefer the Breville 👌

@joshdale Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing Thanks so much for the reply! Wonderful, think I’m going to go down the Breville route! From your experience, are the steps small enough to be able to dial in a variety of coffees? Thanks again!

@patrikfloding7985 26 күн бұрын

@@joshdale It's not really steps. It's just that the readout is quantised. The readout changes fairly quickly as you turn the RHS knob, so it's quite sensitive (decent resolution). I don't know how repeatable the settings are, as I just left it at a good spot for the espresso I'm making.

@stevo7454 Жыл бұрын

Hi I have been using the Breville grinder with our dual boiler too, with fresh beans I have to have the grind setting to the lowest setting of 1 and a grind time of 17 seconds the coffee tastes great but I wonder if the setting on 1 is too low and I should try adjusting the internal burr setting too? Cheers

@dariussala6377 Жыл бұрын

I have the Barista Pro and my internal burr set is on 2 (it came on 6). I don't put it on 1 because 1 and 1 the burrs touch and it ain't good for the longevity

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

if it tastes good - don't change a thing I say 😀

@kissmartong Жыл бұрын

I'd really love to see a test with this grinder using for different brew methods, changing the grind size from one to another. I mostly brew aeropress and v60, but twice a week I brew espresso. Would be this grinder suitable for this?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion! Yes, absolutely it would be. Very reliable for changing grind settings. You know - I'd say, more reliable than a Eureka Mignon - just because its so much easier to track the settings. I had the inner Burr adjusted to 1 - and the digital adjustment at 12 for Espresso on the Rancilio - and then grind settings of around 25-45 would be ideal for you Aeropressing / V60 -so plenty of room to dial in 👌 Just perhaps want to purge the grinder if you're single dosing.

@kissmartong Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing I was thinking about buying the Mignon, before I found this grinder a few weeks ago. After that I saw your video and it was a confirmation for me. Yeah, the mignon's size dial button seems to be not so convenient when switching between brew methods that requires different grind sizes. I guess, retention is always is and will be a problem if I want to single dose in this price category. Thanks for the advise!

@alanhajek2022 2 ай бұрын

hello, we have the same coffee machine with a grinder as you, but we have a problem with the fact that, despite the fact that we have the grinder set to level 1 (the finest), the ground coffee is still NOT fine enough to create a quality espresso. Did you also adjust the grinder manually inside the device and bring the grinding stones closer together?

@AlternativeBrewing 2 ай бұрын

I did yes. So basically as fine as it will possibly go. Beyond this - you may look at how much coffee you're adding to the basket - ensuring its enough - as well as well tamped. Still not brewing well - it may be the coffee beans are not very fresh - and this will also impact the flow. Fresher beans are best 🫶

@user-ed6nt1ml6p Жыл бұрын

Hello man nice to discover your channel and analysis 😀 the Breville is well known to make really good espresso so can I conclude that it will be great too for using with moka pot type of brew ?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely

@user-ed6nt1ml6p Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing that's what I thought since the begining thx a lot ! I would buy the Breville to use with a bialetti inox moka pot if you have some tips, advices for me I'm just waiting and reading ahah 👀

@domg4539 Жыл бұрын

Great video. We’ve just got the Sage Duo Temp Pro with Sage Smart Grinder but struggling to get the right balance on taste. Can you offer any advice on the below?? Beans are espresso and fresh. 54mm double shot basket, non pressurised. 1. Smart grind to size 14 for 10 seconds to produce 18g of grinds in the basket 2. Distribute and then tamp to Razor height 3. Extract for 28s from point I turn to manual. Thanks for any help 🙏

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Hi there! Sure. "get the right balance on taste" what is it lacking in? strength? or is it too strong? 1. This sounds good - great to hear you're weighing the coffee in. 2. Distributing and tamping are fantastic. To any particular height isn't much advantage here - coffee swells up in the basket. Just make sure you're not over-filling the basket. Generic Sage/Breville baskets are usually 16g max. 3. If you have the ability to weigh in your ground coffee, you should also weight out your extracted coffee. You don't have to do this every time - but it does help ballpark it. So you'd tare off the empty glass - brew your espresso to say 28 seconds - then place this back in the scales to see how much espresso you have. With 18g dose - you'd be aiming for a 36-40g espresso out. And 28 seconds is a good time to keep consistent. So from here - if you have less than 36-40g in the cup, adjust the grind coarser - to allow the coffee to flow faster into the cup. And if the opposite is true, and you have more than 36-40g in the cup after 28 seconds - than adjust the grind finer. Each time you brew an espresso ensure you're always weight the dose in at 18g and checking the espresso's weight too - and you'll soon discover a taste you prefer 😀

@domg4539 Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing Thanks for this. So as the basket is 54mm on the Sage DTP should I be aiming for 16g of ground coffee as opposed to 18g? 18g does seem to fit fine. If I should be going for 16g how would your measurements adjust for espresso out? So this morning I did grind size of 18 which took 10 seconds to give approx 18g of grinds in the 54mm basket. I then extracted for 28 seconds and managed to weigh the espresso and it actually came out as just under 80g!! Which obviously seems way off looking at your guide. I did do a test the other day at grind size 8 and the espresso out tasted pretty foul. I’m not sure whether it was bitter or sour (perhaps my pallet is off) but didn’t have a nice after taste. Maybe I should try again and measure the espresso out on the scales (only bought scales yesterday).. Thank you so much for your guidance 🙏

@ameliabuns4058 4 ай бұрын

I’m really curious about the DF64 Gen 2 vs breville

@nguyenpino Жыл бұрын

Hi! I saw you put the inner burr at 1, but what's your setting for the dial? Thanks!

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

It was 12 for this particular coffee 👌

@adi2082 Жыл бұрын

I bought a niche zero and sold it because the flavour in the cup wasn't as good as my used Eureka Mignon. It would be better to compare the SGP with a budget mignon as it is a superior grinder to both the niche and sgp in terms of the cup it produces.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right. I avoid those comparisons based solely on trying not to compare Flat burrs with conical burrs - as there will always be a difference there - however, in relation to shopping around for a good grinder - a Eureka Mignon is at a much closer price point, and therefore more likely competitor in the market then the Niche - i get it.

@suzannegagnon2652 11 ай бұрын

Is it better then Delonghi dedica last version ?

@michaelch7529 Жыл бұрын

Really great to see budget grinder performing just as good as an expensive Niche Zero. I love the single dose mod on the Breville. It does a great job on the retention. What was your internal/external dial setting for espresso?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Right on! Internal - 1. / External - 12.

@daniellonetree6131 Жыл бұрын

Hey Josh @alternativebrewing. What is the best way to tweak the grind setting. I am using the smart grinder pro for a year now and mainly focused on pourovers and aeropress. The setting i am using for v60 is 46 but i tried 35 in the video and the brew tasted great. How did you come up with the recommended grind settings? do you go by taste, or extraction time or the size of the grinds it produces?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Visual Grind Size mostly - as the Brew time, taste or extraction will depend on many other factors. A grind size of 400-700µ is recommended for Pour overs - depending on your recipe. What must also be stated, and apologies for this - the Grinder comes by default, with the inner burr adjustment set at 3 or 4 I believe. I had switched it up to 1 - so that means all the Settings I was using were coarser than if I were to take it straight out of the box. For reference - I could have probably adjust the inner burr carrier to 2 or 3 - given I was on 12 for my Espresso settings - and this would open up more range at the coarser settings as well.

@daniellonetree6131 Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing I get it now. Another thing. if i want to improve my pourover by really dialing in my grind size distribution, would a sieve (like one from the fellow) be a wise investment? Thanks again for replying :)

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

@@daniellonetree6131 It's two steps forward - one step back really. As you will be using say wasting 2g to get 15g within a certain grind size. But - you're right. Having a smaller distribution in grind sizes for pourover makes for a better brew 100%. You'll see the difference in flow and taste the difference in the final cup. Another way to do this - is use a small kitchen sieve - this will at least remove the FINES ... and this could act as the experiment to see whether you want to proceed with something like the Fellow Shimmy 👍

@daniellonetree6131 Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing Thank you so much for the clarification. You always wanted to get the most out of any grinders regardless of electric or manual, low price to ultra expensive like the niche...

@johntropea5957 11 ай бұрын

@@daniellonetree6131 thx for this I did not know about the fellow shimmy. I'm thinking about this too as this Breville Grinder is an all rounder and hence isn't going to churn out perfect grinds for every brew type eg. it may lack in offering great pour over grinds with light roast beans. Lance Hedrick mentions (in his great burr battle video) that this may be due to it not having enough torque to deal with the quicker feed rate of a pentagonal burr (5 spokes compared to more spokes) when grinding light roast beans...I'm assuming this leads to more fines...thus perhaps a sieve may help here.

@Mandragara Жыл бұрын

Any opinions on single origin light roast chocolate? Hyggelig in Sydney is my dealer.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

I'd never heard of light roast Chocolate before! I have had some wonderful SO chocolates from all over - my favorite would be East African Chocolate. Really unique flavour notes that harmonise with the richness of the cocao

@a4a72698 8 ай бұрын

What is the material for the impeller? In my lower end Breville the plastic impeller wore out to nothing. I ended up getting a 3d printed replacement.

@AlternativeBrewing 8 ай бұрын

Plastic

@kyllerkill Жыл бұрын

How do you know if you got it right.

@rgruenhaus 6 ай бұрын

Does the Breville have problems with oily beans getting stuck or not getting down to be ground? The new espressione grinder I got recently has to be tapped to keep the beans falling to grind them. I called their tech line and they said it may only be a problem with dark roast oily beans. I never had that problem with my Cuisinart burr mill.

@AlternativeBrewing 6 ай бұрын

Yes, if they're very oily Ive heard this does happen. I've not experienced it myself - but makes sense. These grinders are not particular that powerful and thus can clog easier than a more commercial style Home Grinder.

@GuitarTherapy144 6 ай бұрын

that bitterness came from the water you took just before you took the niche shot. not that water is bitter haha, but water doesnt neutralize the taste. try it out yourself, drink water while having the same espresso, the 3rd 4th time will always seem more bitter and the very first will be always sweetish. can i ask you something? i love italian style thick creamy short espresso 25-35ml. will the breville be good enough to give me a thick coffee with ssome gaggia bambino, or just get a breville express or barista pro? i am a minimalist, purist. just thick coffe italian style short espresso/ristretto. id really like your input. you seem the person to go to to ask for. thank you in advance, i hope:)

@AlternativeBrewing 6 ай бұрын

100% the Breville is a capable of this 👌 Two strong considerations though are - it may clog up much more than other grinders - when using beans that are roasted darker and have oils presents on the beans' exterior. If you don't use these coffees - No worries but it's worth getting a Grinder a little more robust if using oiler beans - or clean it out more regularly than you'd prefer to do. Secondly - the longevity of the grinder. I've heard from both sides of the equation - where it lasts for years no problems, and others it's broke in 6 months. However - after saying all that - it's a great grinder for making superb espresso on a budget 👌

@mihatest Жыл бұрын

I have this grinder and am really happy. I only use it for my morning espresso. My only complain is that it without fail goes from 10.6 seconds to 9.8 every single time I turn it on.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

I found this to be true as well - sometime the adjustments slipped a little

@DarkFire515 Жыл бұрын

If you actually turn off the power to the breville it will forget any adjusted settings. If you leave it powered it'll auto-off after 60 seconds but will remember any changes to the settings that you've made.

@Madskills-hw2ox 2 ай бұрын

It’s understandable this machine for $250 won’t do what a $1,700 machine will do. But, does the coffee taste 7 times better? That comment was prior to watching. I’m glad, why? Because I just picked up this machine today. Hundreds of reviews can’t be wrong was my thinking. I’d like to actually purchase the DF64GEN2 with SSP BURRS… later. Thank you for making this video my friend.

@AlternativeBrewing 2 ай бұрын

Right on! Taste is definitely not 7x better 🫶

@joelwarnaerts279 Жыл бұрын

Thank you , interesting, still can not find the perfect grindsize and time for my La Pavoni Stradivari

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

The grind size is only one factor- perhaps lowering the pressure as you pull down will improve it overall- what about the grind size are you finding is the issue?

@joelwarnaerts279 Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing it definitely helps when lower the pressure, and not to fine grinding

@akoako4603 Жыл бұрын

❤️

@Khalil-Ibrahim21 Жыл бұрын

Thanks 😄 I wanted the niche but now I get the cheaper sage and a robot vacuum cleaner

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

@studuerson2548 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 Pros, and after tuning them in for equivalent pucks, 28 seconds, one burr setting is at 11, the other at 5. Not sure what that indicates.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Wow - sooo same coffee? ... and the interior grind setting is the same too?

@CaptianK Жыл бұрын

I have the barista express and I am using Merlo espresso bean. I’m really struggling to work out the best grind setting on the express. I started off at 8 and now I’m at 3 and a 4. The barista express pressure is about 11 o’clock and won’t go much higher than that no matter the grind setting. I thought I had it right and few days later same process and I can taste some either sour notes or bitter notes. I’m just at a loss. Have contacted both breville and merlo. Breville have already swapped over my machine for a new one and tbh I feel like the last machine is better than this new one :/ Wish breville or merlo or you guys did home lessons. I live locally to your Oxley warehouse.

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Right on! well you can come down to the warehouse, but unfortunately yes, we don't have Breville, Merlo or the facilities for the lessons - but agree! it would be a great thing to do. Check these two videos out as well if you haven't already - these might help further: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pa2XeJSmt827hIE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ishymtqgqrXJpZs.html If there's anything I can help with, let me know 🫶

@CaptianK Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing thanks man.

@abrahamw88 Жыл бұрын

What grind setting did you settle on for the breville set at the burrs?

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

I had it adjusted on the inner burr, as fine as it will go - and the adjustment in the LCD screen was set at 12 👌

@abrahamw88 Жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeBrewing ok good to know. I had adjusted the inner burr finer but not all the way and was confused why I still wasn’t getting slow enough extraction.

@MizraPaul Жыл бұрын

Is the Smart Grinder Pro a large upgrade over the internal grinder on a Breville Barista Pro?

@dariussala6377 Жыл бұрын

Looking for the answer too. I have the Barista Pro and with some beans, even on internal burr set to 2 and the wheel at 1, I still have fast shots 🙄

@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын

Yes, a stand alone grinder will be far better. To my knowledge - most In-built grinders have a setting of 5-10 grind settings that cover a wide spectrum of grind sizes. The power of the grinders is usually slightly lacking - I would always go with a stand alone grinder - versus an in-built one.