Thankfully they do now! This is a pretty old episode, just a reupload. There’s a clip on this channel of a size 30 bride and they treated her with so much care and found her the perfect dress!

I don't understand how designers can say "I won't make the cup size larger." the whole point of ordering a dress in a size other than the sample size is so that it actually fits, why would that not include the cup size? like I don't understand how they can take all your measurements to make the dress to size but say "that doesn't include the boobs"?

​@@dietotaku I think it may be because it can sometimes change the style or positioning of certain parts of the dress just because of the cuts. And perhaps if it changes it too much, it doesn't become worth it anymore because the bride won't want it anymore. And perhaps it's just too costly for the designer because they're starting out so don't have helpers. Giving a bigger bust can unfortunately change the style of some dresses because of the nature of bigger boobs.

@@dietotaku Ditto for accommodating tall brides.

What else???!!

I agree that she needs a custom-made her long list of of requirements that is the only solution🎉

With her list of requirements, well, something is going to have to give. "Lots of bling" translates to "lots more expensive," "lots of drama at the bottom" translates to "lots more expensive," and "not more than $4000" translates to "I can't afford a custom gown with as much bling and drama as I want."

no way though for $4K. Maybe a gown for a plus size would fit her bust and could then be taken in at the waist as needed. (?)

@@sarahdee374 Hard to say. She's really not that large overall, she's just got really large breasts. Her underbust, waist and hips look fairly petite--I'd say she's got a figure like Dolly Parton. Since she wants a gown that is closely fitted to mid-thigh, a plus size gown that fits her bust would be just as difficult to fit her from the underbust down as adjusting a gown that fits her up to he underbust area and then needs to have the cups and neckline adjusted.

Definitely. It's possible to find someone who can make your dress within a budget.

Just to be catty--a designer can't accommodate for something their skillset is unable to design for. It's possible that the designer in question simply does not know how to design outside of the 'standard' sizes. If a curve falls outside your design school's standard French curve and you didn't play with other French curves and then combine those curves with various fabrics to see how they play on the grain of the fabric, you're gonna be pretty limited in your design abilities.

@@GrainneDhub-ll6vw but are they a designer then if 90% of people can't wear it but limiting it to a c cup is a joke at least if it would increase it to a e cup then I would understand

@@kamila3211 There's a market for haute couture houses that will only take orders for their designs up to size 12. Keep in mind that these are gowns, dresses, tops and suits where each one is made by taking the client's measurements, drafting the pattern to their specific measurements, making a mockup, fitting the mockup, either adjusting the mockup or making a second mockup before the second fitting--all this before the actual fabric is cut into. A process way more intensive and custom than prêt-à-porter wedding gowns. I'm talking about houses that exhibit during their fashion week, whether it be Paris, Milan, Rome, London, New York or wherever. For instance, about 45 years ago, when Ralph Lauren was asked why he didn't make anything over size 12, he said "because I can't make anything look good on a woman who wears anything larger." He meant it as a putdown but I (and many other second wave feminists) saw it as an admission of weakness and ignorance. Is it ethically right? I happen not to think so but there's no arguing that there are designers that can make a very good living without even making a gesture towards inclusivity by going up to a size 16 or 18. Not all haute couture houses are so limited nor are all bridal gown designers. If more people of all sizes refused to do business with designers who refuse to be inclusive, that might inspire those designers to improve their skill set.

I think that some adjustments to dress can only be done when ordering from the designer

I wondered the same-and then thought -with the amount of extra room she needs in the cup(she had to have been more than an E cup) the alterations can only do so much to make the dress fit her breasts.

I wondered if she would of been able to get it in a bigger size, to cover the bust, and then have it taken in

Couldn't be done with the amount of extra room needed and the way the top of that particular dress was cut.

How? It was a beaded top, first of all, they don’t have those beads, second they don’t have the same fabric and third, the dress is copyrighted by the designer so making alterations is not allowed if not done by the designer. Next question.

Exactly, they should have had more freedom to dress her in different looks, she probably would have looked good with something else and then could have added custom details like more jewels

Another potential difficult customer...

Girl I use to work in clothing retail. You'll want rethink working in a Bridal shop.

@@ladyjustice1474 it sounds fun lol I can see it being stressful though.

@@ladyjustice1474I feel like Bridal would be a little different since it’s requires having appointments and one on one attention. And at least shoplifting would be less of an issue. You can’t just run off with 20 wedding dresses, and you can keep the smalls away from the customers. Yes, they’d be difficult people but they exist in every industry.

Pnina Tournai seems like a lovely woman but I also don't like many of her gowns

@@janetcallanan7020 I went to her website to look at her full collection and every dress I looked at just wasn’t nice looking to me. Some were very simple, some were super elaborate, a couple were sort of pretty, but I just don’t like her style. She may be a lovely person, but her dress designs just aren’t for me.

@@janetcallanan7020Yup and they are expensive too. Most of her gowns are so ugly. She gets greedy when the brides want any of her dresses. I am shocked that she is so in demand as her designs are usually extremely expensive and ugly.

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj yeah I'm older but I'm not a prude the dresses look like honeymoon attire plus with the see through plunging necks etc gives me burlesque vibes which is fine but not for a wedding dress plus many designers with the over encrusted rhinestones won't age any better than the 80s dresses people snicker at

@@janetcallanan7020Exactly and the Pnina gowns look like lingerie. It is ok if that is your taste, but not for a wedding dress. Many have religious ceremonies and those dresses would not be appropriate.

I'm confused also I've never heard of a peachy diamond gown🎉

Peachy diamond white is code for "I am the most unique bride ever and I'm making shit up to double down on just how spezzial I am! "

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Something in her imagination that doesn't exist.

You know you can't tell some people that. She wants to highlight her busom but the style she wants just is not for her.

I bet a halter would work on her. She could show the line but have coverage.

When my daughter was getting married, she went to David's Bridal. They were rude, uninterested, and when she showed up for her appointment, they told her that they had no record of her appointment. We left. She got her gown elsewhere. David's Bridal closed their store not long after.

@@onemercilessming1342 I don’t think any David’s Bridals are open anymore

Because it’s a specialized shop specific for plus size brides. Kleinfelds is not.

not for a kleinfelds dress, that's for sure. $4000 could easily get her a custom made gown from a private seamstress, or a bedazzled dress from a smaller salon.

Adding more overall circumference to the first gown with a oanel would not have helped at all--the problem was not that the gown would not go around her. The problem was that the bra cups could only contain about 50% of the volume of her breasts. Think of it this way: two women can both wear a 36 inch band sized bra, but one needs A cups and the other needs GG cups. Even though the band on the 36A bra would fit the 36GG wearer just fine, there is no way on earth that her breasts are going to fit into A cups.

@@GrainneDhub-ll6vw Is that right ? Well l just happen to know a lady that "suffered" with the same exact dilemma. Uh huh. And it was a Maggie Sotero gown. And the lady had just as large of a cup size. Pouring out of the top of the sweetheart neckline. And the resident seamstress cured it. True story. 😉✌️❤️🦋🙏

That's not realistic.

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Sometimes because there are those that have an unlimited budget but still don’t find anything they want.

Nope, the budget is not the problem; we've seen plenty of dresses like she described within her budget; the problem is that most designers won't do above a c cup

@@chrisanthi6021 The few designers that will do the bigger cups are more expensive and with the added requirements much more. Thus, she wasn’t able to get her “dress” due to a low budget .

I agree and most honestly can careless what the bride wears.

You are just homophobic.

It is not the old days anymore. People should be able to marry who they want.

Nobody cares.

You're so mean. Two moms are better than a mean mom.

@@samanthahill9367nope, one mom is enough

Designers can design for who they want to. Maybe having to adapt their designs that much is not viable for them and/or isn’t in keeping with their aesthetic.

Yes, they can design how they feel, but designing something like wedding gowns, something every woman eventually needs to or wants to wear and excluding them because it doesn't fit their "aesthetic" is just cruel and heartless. It ends the message that some women just don't belong in the designer's world or they're not worthy. @@camellia8625