Yes, indeed. The fact that it is so close before the wedding, would lead to judge declaring it invalid anyways.

when do you spring it? the first date?

@@paulcolburn3855 While you are planning the wedding, when you ask her to marry you. That's not the first date. You would communicate about it before you even think about marrying someone.

Prenups should both mandatory and legally assumed in the event a formal one is not drafted. There is no right or wrong time to bring one up. Protect yourself at all times.

@@jackvoss1527 It's an _even better_ way, actually.

i cringe so much when they try to force people to take part in their conversation

honestly this i also one of those scenarios where it's not like we know the full backstory of either person to step in. like there's right and wrong, but this is just, well, an opinionated scene.

Everyone in this scenario: Ight, Imma head out.

@@sannanandy3955 so true omg

I'd not take part but I'd listen for juicy details or something. xD Though tbh, I don't know anything about legal actions and don't wanna be married - much less in a relationship past friends - so I'd just be waiting for ~drama~.

IKR 😮

U ain't even finish the video

Are these new episodes?

@@memerthegamer3157 "NOOOOO"- Luke Davidson

@@memerthegamer3157yeah they are they held the show off because of covid

Exactly! There would absolutely NOT be a wedding or anything further if he had approached me that way, especially at the last minute and in a public place.

Theyre definitely useful, they bring americans the amount of protection, that in Europe is available without a prenup. With a prenup i almost all European countries, only know about the union, it is definitve without any ifs or court

A lot of people don't even consider things like this because they get swept up in the romantic nature of being engaged and living their fairy tale. The reality of the wedding isn't always apparent until just before. A prenup is only a red flag if someone refuses to sign it IMO. Some people are also the "weaker" or less assertive person in the relationship and it takes a lot of time and courage to confront their partner with something uncomfortable.

And you don't put pressure on your partner. Your partner should have the time to discuss this with his/her own lawyer!

Agreed.

WWYD handled this scenario perfectly

@@spiceupyourlife7755 no, not really.

I think they did a great job with this one, honestly. I think they started out with a fairly neutral character for the man. Yes, they escalated it, but I don’t think they started him off as a huge red flag from the get go. It might be interesting to see reactions if you swapped the roles but I doubt there would be as much interaction in that scenario.

I agree. They set up the victim narrative perfectly. Everyone's in on who the good/bad guys are. I wish they could be more nuanced in their set ups.

I’d also like to see the roles reversed

I totally agree!

Ngl, if this happens I’d be the one uncomfortably laughing instead of helping. 😅That’s a discussion behind closed doors, not in public.

That's what I was thinking lll

All the new ones are boring get some new ideas and locations.

And the actors were not good

Yeah, this one is a personal thing

Thank God for any opportunity to view new footage of John Quiñones. 🤩

Literally been asking myself when they would for years.

Hi! That's probably what everyone would do in my country.

@nicolas_-_-_ yeah people here in the US are nosey

Me too lol

I’d move closer a take a sip of my drink 🤣

im an asian guy.....nobody cares to get involved or married to me, fine! I will become mega $$$$$$$ so when I get there, dont go fishing for my heart cuz I wont bother or care!

This late in the game leaves no room for discussion or negotiation without risking delaying the wedding. It gives him the power. Nothing wrong with a prenup, everything wrong with approach.

why? would you end a relationship over that?

The first date. Lol

@@denisebreeden825 😆

@@pinda0020I’d probably call off the wedding if someone sprung that on me the week before it’s supposed to happen so I can have more time to think about it

True

Wrong bad acting. Victimizing the women as always

true but the guy was pushing it wayyy too far

Yeah she really looked like a gold digger

@@shortangel333 "looked like a gold digger" Why are you here people like you are the reason this channel exists

100 percent agree with you . I’m struggling with this new season because a lot of the scenes are forced to side with one party and not evening the playing field in order to allow people to have a real opinion

I agree

@@MrRaymos23 yas

Completely agree every situation was against men in almost all these new video. Like the onlyfan teacher was crazy😂

People relax, these season has just started. They always do it for both sides.

I agree. It's a conversation that a couple should have while they are still in love rather than at the point at which they are having the greatest stress. But the idea of the guy springing it last minute as an ultimatum is problematic, to say the least.

but those things aren't dependent on your own actions. i feel like at that point you're just getting married due to social pressures.

Me too. Responsible partners do this

If you have to have a prenup to get married, then you shouldn't get married. That means there is no trust between the two people. I never have and never will sign a prenup.

@andrewvelonis5940 I agree there. It's something you discuss before getting engaged or just after. Not a week before like these actors did in the scenario

Your average 2024 woman

talk about double standard, not surprised

She laughed she's clearly joking

Hypocrisy at its finest!!!

@@jorgemacias4006no need to be misogynistic

Exactly. I only have my horse and my cat, but blood would be spilt if some man decides to be spiteful and take them from me during divorce. So a prenup would protect my animals and whatever shit he has 😂

Yes, but not sprung up on someone a week before the wedding with no warning, no discussion, no negotiation, no opportunity to even read it and have their own lawyers look over it, etc. A prenup is a legally binding contract, both parties need to be involved in its creation.

Wealthy women in Australia automatically do prenuptial agreements and it’s no big deal but when a man does it the women object I think that tells you how it is sadly

@@matt08sydney yup, a woman in this very video said that.

Everyone would make him for sure 😂

@@matt08sydneyI agree and I think even as a woman myself, I find many women so selfish! It is no wonder many men don’t want to get married these days.

​@matt08sydney the issue here isn't that it's a man. It's that it's a week before the wedding and they've never even discussed it before. Also, the rush to sign without a chance to read and have their own counsel look over it, because it has to be notarized "later this afternoon" is a huge red flag. No one, man or woman, should sign any contract without thoroughly reviewing it. Prenuptial agreements concern both parties and should involve discussion/negotiation with both parties, and both should have their own legal counsel that is concerned for their best interests.

I totally agree! this is not realistic, nobody would discuss such a private matter at a bar, and most strangers would not get involved since is none of their business

None of ma biz

I assume that the couples that stayed together must be from Asian cultures.

@@adampower9757 no African ones.

And if they have no assets ?

​@@mattsnyderARTISTyou can always gain assets during the marriage which then becomes legally both parties

@@mattsnyderARTISTa prenup can cost up to $2,500-10k to file. A good measure of if you need one is if you can pay outright for the wedding and paperwork for a prenup or not

Yeah I was so concerned for that guys money. I really did believe that she was a gold digger.

last part when he starts to get verbally "frustrated" and tells her "the wedding's off"........Why call mom? shows how his REAL feelings and heart is, if he was understanding and kind, he would not get all cranky and verbal...........You marry cuz you fall in love, not marry cuz society will make you feel too OLD..... For me, after a divorced friend told me of his experience with a gold digging ex, he told me "ok....be stupid, fall in love with the wrong gal and then regret it later.

How dare you throw your two sense into it!

I wouldn't as I prefer to be an equalizer where women stick with the woman no matter the situation.

Yup, there’s a brand new season!

Feeling the need to ask to sign a prenup just showed no trust at all before and after marriage!! Na!! No marriage for me, if I was ever ask to sign such hog wash, Bye Bye my Love I would say!¡!

If done properly yes, a prenuptial agreement is fair. This wasn't done properly. Even before he walked out. To be fair both sides need to have their input in its creation, that involves both parties being present for negotiations, and each with their own legal counsel. The bride to be in this senerio didn't even know the prenuptial existed till being told to sign it, so her input was clearly not considered. Then he was pushing to sign it to be notarized that same day, which means unless she is someone with a lawyer on retainer (very unlikely for most of the population) she won't have time for her own legal representative to look it over and make sure it's OK. Then, you have him trying to get her to sign, before she even had a chance to read it. If it's so fair for both, why push for a signature without then having read it? No one should sign anything they haven't read. This conversation should have happened in private at the beginning of the engagement, followed by negotiations in a legal setting with their prospective attorneys present to create the prenup together. Not, here's a fully written contract you need to sign, today right now, in a public diner, one week before the wedding, with zero discussion or even warning.

@@darleneholt2736 Thats a long text for agreeing with me. I legit said the way he acted here and left the scene was problematic. You shouldnt just gice your partner a contract yes, discussing it together, creating it together with 2 different lawyers present (1 for each side) should be key.

You are a rare kind of woman

Very rare wife thank you for understanding men struggles

I agree with you! I am a woman and I feel so bad for the men as they have a lot to lose in case of a divorce too. Men just have so much to lose. Women are just so selfish and the law never protects the men. That is why 4 of my brothers don’t want to get married ( I have 7 brothers and only 3 are married). The laws favor the women too much. Having a prenuptial is one thing but then there is a will too.

Also can we just look at how the actress kinda acts like a stereotypical gold digger. Freaking out cause she has to sign paper meaning that if there was a divorce, she wouldn't get money.

no

that's gay

@@sannanandy3955Why? Men are people too! It is sad when people can sympathize with women but not men.

@@sannanandy3955😂ffs South Park lolz

@@sannanandy3955 LOL

I guarantee you they gonna be up on his ass about it 🤣

@@ChrisCap732fr😂😂

Based

Amen Adam

This is true to a point. I think a prenup is fine if you discuss it WAYYYYY before hand. But i also dont think a prenup is necessary no matter how much money you have. If you expect your wife to give up career opportunities and be stay at home, then consider why she does not want a Pre-nup. Marriage is not treated as sacred anymore. And people dont trust their partners. Of course anyone can be betrayed but these things are not a catch all. Its case by case for me.

@ljeans531 agreed. It's necessary no matter your sex. It should be a collaborative effort with BOTH of your legal representations present if possible. Otherwise, the state will prescribe a contract to you.

man or woman. Nowdays women are career focused and have more money than the man

The person who doesn't want the prenup is the person who plans to divorce you. A woman who has no plans to divorce you treats a prenup just the way you treat your car insurance. You have no plan of getting into a car crash but you take out insurance because it is the logical thing to do.

@@birdie.21. Not true whilst I personally think prenups make sense, I think it's also understandable people would see it as "you don't trust me and think I'm a gold digger" or "you don't think our marriage will last". If anything I think it probably points to the other person being a little too immature for marriage.

@@princessofhell4639 That's the pretext some women use, "you're being so unromantic, you don't trust me..." when they know perfectly well that the person mentioning the prenup is just being cautious just like you would with health insurance.

@@princessofhell4639 Wanting a prenup has nothing to do with maturity and everything to do with protecting what is rightfully yours. In reality anyone who has a problem with it wants to be able to get the others money if the marriage ends. Or else it would not matter at all.

I mean if you men should stop complaining that women aren’t wanting to be housewives

She’s to recognized at this point

Tracy would play the mom role....

The issue isn't the prenup. It's springing a prenup, one party had no say in negotiating the terms of, last minuet, with zero warning and no time to read nor have their own lawyers read over it before signing.

She’s so over the top 😅😅😅😅

lol yeah not sure if anyone would have so many tears over a prenup 😆, acting like it’s a divorce paper :p lol

Same! Especially seeing the crying scene that quite a lot of them can do.

If I had a dollar for every time I overheard someone’s personal business at a bar, I’d be rich enough to need a prenup.

who are you referring to as unreliable?

And showing strangers their personal documents…

Sting operation.

I would laugh at em

What would YOU do?

😂😂😂

@@ikhouvanpannekoeken3272 I would get them new pair of pants 👖

@@compashinpei 👍👍

Pure hypocrisy from that lady. 😑😑😑😑

Yes, she was messed up and sounds like a gold digger.

Why?

@@Daniel-wn5yeshe will just say it's was under distress that she sign the prenuptial agreement that's all. 90% of women are evil bro

@@Daniel-wn5ye because the signing conditions would be deemed coercive.

Do you know what it’s means to lose half of your Assets + house all you worked for all you went to school for will be gone 😂

@@Ivar00000 Yes. I can imagine that would be horrible, so we wait & pray for the right person. Marriage is a covenant. We should remain faithful to that covenant and not have double standards. This is my belief.

@@Godsmasterpiece1993It’s just like insurance… it shouldn’t be a problem if you aren’t interested in his money

@@-_Blitz_- I don’t agree with that. We must work hard in our marriage and not have thoughts about ever giving up. We need to take choosing our spouse very seriously not causally. Prenup is showing a lack of trust in your future spouse and trust is a vital necessity for our marriages. I don’t judge anyone but this is what I believe 😊

@@Godsmasterpiece1993 Yes I strongly agree with that, but things happen with other people you cannot control

Specifically "call your MOM". Notice nobody suggested calling Dad.

Why? What's the big deal? What would the parents say, "Just find another man that you can cheat or leave and you can still take his stuff" ?

Yeah plus that “just sign it” and walk out ain’t great

the others were far more interesting, you’re just a boring person, hopefully they don’t continue like this.

@@Mxox1 ya, I'm the one who's boring. What an argument 🥱

@@Corrie-_- def not an argument, take it as constructive criticism to improve your taste or remain boring up to u, might be ur preference love 🥰

@@Mxox1 I'm not going to take someone calling me boring as constructive criticism. I like what I like, just because you don't, doesn't mean you have to be insulting

@@Corrie-_- the reason you didn’t like the last two my love is because 1. it didn’t tailor to you (considering ive checked your comments on it) and 2. you’re indeed boring, but yh u like what u like :)

Yes, but you should protect yourself too. My brother is now suffering as his wife does not love him and is only after his money.

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj You know murder is a lot less costly than a divorce.

Sir or Ma'am, I could not agree with You more.

If this was the lady who came from a wealthy family, and the man didn’t have wealth, but is financially stable, and she wanted him to sign a prenup a week before the wedding, would he sign or would he get mad her and think she’s not trustworthy of him

@@The1baddman In this scenario most men would sign it, seems men take more pride on not relying on a woman's money, but usually the same can't be said the other way around, but makes sense since traditionally men are suppose to offer provision/protection and whatnot but were in different times, so I get it.

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You do realize those women chose being a housewife knowing the risks? Thats completely on them same with the men that lost money from gold diggers

@@sjejsj7615no. These women do deserve half of their husbands money

@@rose-yeah why? Get a job and stop depending on someone

@@sjejsj7615I agree and even housewives can work part time. My cousin is mostly a housewife but works at home part time too.

Exactly

A hustle is a hustle.

I was thinking the same thing!

Thats not the point the point is its the week of the wedding and in public which is embarrassing for anyone

@@seo_sea_soulWhy would the timing matter? It’s a signature. Why is a prenup such a big deal in 2024 😂

It's a legal document that sets forth the distribution of assets and liabilities in the case of divorce or annulment. Imo, it is a good thing to have. Just as a good pilot would breif the crew for what would happen the case of cabin fire, that doesn't mean that the pilot expects the plane to burst into flames during takeoff. Same kind of deal here I think.

My English ain't that good, but it's basically a prenuptial agreement. It's when the to-be married husband and wife agree on the terms and conditions of the marriage and what or how the wealth will be distributed in the case of a divorce. That way, for instance, if the husband is the rich person in this relationship, he won't have to lose half of his wealth or most of his wealth paying the wife in alimony or child support. Mind you alimony is part of the Shariah law, but in Europe they tend to misuse it to discourage marriage

@@abduleve8688 ohh Tysm for the explanation 😭❤️❤️

@@abduleve8688 This is set in the US. And Europe has dozens of countries with wildly different laws, so your statement is shoddy. Countries also don't tend to "discourage marriage". If anything, western countries encourage as much as possible anything than can bring birthrates up because we're below replacement level. It's also funny you would talk about Sharia law when it's applied differently in numerous countries as well. In Saudi Arabia for instance, divorce right are unilateral for men without motivation, while women have to legally prove harm to break the contract and still risk losing their own assets (the dowry) if the harm wasn't "severe enough".

@@k.v.7681 I find it also funny that your understanding of Shariah law is comparing it to man made laws that can be bent in accordance to the state or country. Shariah law is not applied differently it is applied according to what the Quran says. Nowhere in the Quran nor Hadith does it say that what you claim to be a factor that determines divorce. If there is however I am waiting for you to state the scripture that says that. Also please don't embarrass yourself by mentioning Saudi Arabia when talking about Islam. Saudi Arabi was founded, and is protected by the Secular British and American empire in order to serve as a harbor and ally for the Western invasion of Muslim nations. It has zero relevance to Islam.

Dean Winchester too me i see the joining of assets and the associated trust as the entire point of a marriage... A prenup is like saying "i dont want too marry you, i just want a pretend marriage" but thats just the way i see it Also probably makes them feel like they might be being cheated on

@@megamushroom a prenup doesn’t mean you don’t share assets during the marriage it just means that in the event of a divorce one person gets to keep some agreed upon things like a house they bought before the marriage, during the marriage that house will still be co owned

@@Dean_W1nchester. oh ok im sorry about the misunderstanding since the video didnt explain it very well... In that case i think most people just dont like the idea that the marriage may not be permanent since thats what marriage is supposed too be... There isnt anything necessarily wrong with it but i can see why it would make somebody feel very insecure or even suspicious that there partner has ulterior motives for making a prenup

I would say if she fully understands what a prenup is and doesn't want to sign it, that says everything you need to know and that person is definitely someone you don't want to marry, I don't want to end up losing half my hard earned money because she felt like getting another guy or yada yada.

She was speaking for a lot of them, that think like that, but refuse to put it into words.

Yessssss!!!!! This episode is not very good.

why?

If you aren’t rich you don’t need a prenup.

Umm you don’t need it unless you rich rich

Yes ladies! Make sure he has to pay out when he cheats !😂

Not true, it's just been presented as such an unromantic things most people have been taught it means your partner doesn't trust you. That's why some people have an issue. More than likely the person is just ill informed.

@@princessofhell4639 That's the pretext some women use, "you're being so unromantic, you don't trust me.." when they know perfectly well that the person mentioning the prenup is just being cautious just like you would with health insurance.

@@princessofhell4639 I mean she looked and acted like gold digger

​@@birdie.21.that's not true

​@@shortangel333no she didn't

So is marriage a scam? The only way to not divorce is to not get ......?