This! I learned how NOT to act from this show. So many nasty people making mean comments to future Brides.

Are you in this business?? That comment is a GREAT GREAT IDEA!

This show is what people should watch if they wish to learn "how to speak with people" just in general.

She wouldn't invite them if she didn't value their advice, that means truthful advice. Have people have become such snowflakes they prefer to hear lies?

That's what I'm screaming. Seems obvious but people often go another direction.

True. This is not about her being unpleasant. It is about her wanting a dress that only exist in her mind and her, even though with a great budget, not being able to think that she should just custom make it and also if she has (and she does) high end connections, she could have at least finagle a design of her liking and then have a budget friendly seamstress make it for her with affordable fabrics. Her attitude of wanting something that didn't exist was not bad it was just that she wanted something and did not think of the obvious way for her to get it.

She would have looked great in an Audrey Hepburn elegant dress slim fitting and maybe a detachable full half skirt just a thought

Yeah, some people simply find it harder to find things they like. I myself am similar to that, I will be nice to anyone I work with but will have my own strong preferences. The good thing is that once I find something I like, I stick to it for a very long time and also do not end up overbuying items I will have no use for.

Exactly

I agree. She wasn't even that picky and her attitude was great.

Yeah I think her being picky paid off cause that dress was perfect on her.

​@@sweeney60😊 3:22

I'm sure I would have been called a picky bride, because I wanted ivory, no train, has to have sleeves or straps, no corset, no tulle or crinoline, and no bling😂 I found exactly what I wanted though. oh, and this was 12 years ago, so the options were more limited.

Try on a David dress. I love his designs.

@@orange5736 "love", as in "oh I love this dress"

@@orange5736 lice

@@orange5736 licour

Lost

Considering that Pnina is I think one of Kleinfeld's exclusive designers, I wouldn't be surprised. Same with Mark Zunino.

I came looking for this comment lol. I was like ok we get it girl lol

She sounds like such a snob. Probably how she got her job. That nasel voice. Almost like she does it on purpose.

Yep...that meme comes to mind of the guy with that crazy forehead vein and the caption "when you haven't told anyone you're a ____ for five minutes."

🤣😂😂🤣🤣

I know, we heard you the first time sweetie!!

Not really. Hurtful to the hardworking consultant. Just wasting time because nothing seems to be good enough for her.

No she wasn't. She was extremely annoying, especially to Ellie, the least she could've done was know what she wanted out of a dress. She didn't have anything prepared.

@@maryroberts9233 hurtful because she doesn’t like anything? Wtf do you think you to dictate what a bride should work. She shouldn’t be forced to accept if she doesn’t like it. It’s not the consultant’s wedding day

Yeah, all these haters in the comments are losers 💀

@@elithluxe7568 Exactly. Thats the whole point of selling something. She shouldn't feel pressured to spend thousands of dollars on something she isnt sold on.

This! But in this case, she wasn’t getting carried away-The blush ballgown was it! You could hear it in her comments as she was trying it on (“THIS is a bride dress.”) and see it in her face as she was walking in & in how she was playing with it when she saw herself in the mirror. It was elegant, soft, & demure like her, but still unique & dramatic. She turned around all smiling & lit up, but then her sister or whoever made that face, and you can literally see the winds of happiness leave her sails as the light in her eyes fades. You can see her heart drop as she begins to backpedal her emotions & rationalize her way out of loving the dress she naturally & emotionally connected to… The only thing missing that she was looking for was the veil to drive home the fact that she’s a bride! It’s kind of heartbreaking to read some of these comments critical of her, because she is not a picky bride at all! If anything, she is a bride who lets others’ opinions walk all over her decisions. She is a very respectful and sensitive bride with high standards who knows what she wants, but she’s inadvertently repressing her deeper desires & emotions and internalizing less than ideal outcomes as personal flaws with self-criticism instead of seeing the situation for what it really is (which is trying to lower her bar to avoid making people uncomfortable and pleasing others before pleasing herself)-Likely because she cares very much about others & holds her loved ones’ opinions in high regard, because she’s used to thinking with her head over feeling with her heart on a daily basis in her economic role & demanding line of work, and because she’s so used to regularly pleasing others in addition to or instead of herself. Too bad her sister didn’t realize there is a big difference between her usual day-to-day preferences versus her less obvious inner dreams & special preferences for a very special & far from usual day, else she probably would have curbed her criticism in light of a different perspective. It’s such a shame that neither her sister, nor the reps, nor anybody else was observant enough to be able to see any of that & try to redirect her to the right headspace… She was so close to getting what she really wanted, but her reactions were too subtle for others to pick up on & help her cinch the deal properly. Oh, the curses of being an analytical, sensitive introvert!

@@Ephyne The blush was definitely the best. The last one was not her.

I felt that way too...."omyfreakinggod seriously...now we know why she doesn't get a dress!!!" She clearly has opinions but then when she likes something they tell her NO. After the first time they should have learned that they need to not influence some one they are claiming is picky. What they meant is she doesn't pick the one they want and has to come up with reasons she doesn't want the one they like

Her sister didn't like the dress but I don't think she made a mean comment. If she is so sensitive and people pleasing to the point she can't choose a dress, that's something she has to change.

Yep- I just wanted that sister to shut up. That blush wedding dress was so pretty. I hate people like that- ugh!

Agreed since she works for designers or whatever-just it it customized to her flavor k🧐

Unless she feels the emotional attachment, nothing will do.

I tend to agree with you.

She's going to be impossible to please.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised at all of she did bring up the idea of having the dress custom made and the designer she works for declined...

True!

They were desperate for the commission on the £10,000 sale 😂🤪

Umm. This is a TV show. With edits. And a "storyline." Don't mistake what the appointment was like for what was on the TeeVee, because those are remarkedly different. Secondly, these consultants work at Kleinfeld, and they get large commissions from lots of brides. The dresses usually start at $2000. So they are not working this bride for the money when the next bride can buy a dress during the next appointment. Just maybe, maybe this consultant wants this bride to be happy because it is literally her job. Don't project what YOU do onto other people just because you want them to be chasing the money like you may do.

@@catladyfromky4142 exactly she even asked her if it was ok with her to go over budget because she was running out of options. this way the bride isn't falling in love with a dress she cant afford

For real!

She was polite but she has no idea what she wants

Her main problem is that she has no idea what she wants.

Is that Muffy as your profile picture?! Blast from the past, loved "Arthur" when I was in Kindergarten all through to 3rd grade.

@@Inevitable.Change yes it is Muffy!!!

@@isaacmuth7097 The sassy leader with a generous heart!

Agreed, she has the bone structure and figure to pull off something much more chic and modern than those dresses she tried on. Don’t get me wrong, they were pretty but she could do better,

Yeah, I agree. I think there is a difference between what she likes and what would actually look best on her.

I agree, the dresses that she likes were her style but the dress that she seemed the most happy in was the style she didn’t try at all

I agree with all the comments above. With her beautiful strong body and features, I think she needs a very plain but uniquely architectural fitted dress. Add some flowers or lace to the veil, but I would even keep the veil tailored. She is a knockout, as they say, and the fit is gonna dictate what she looks fabulous in.

Agree, when I saw this video, I thought, she needs something Japanese - that clean, modern, architectural design.

The poor bride has a ‘man face’...very masculine looking.😬

@@davisholman8149 it’s very rude to comment on people’s appearance like that yknow…..

She definitely is!!!! So 1920's-40's-esque. She will look gorgeous both young and old!

Yes. Ellie is simply beautiful!

She reminds me of Marilyn Monroe with slightly softer features

Agree. She's adorable! She also listens well & seems to have great connections w/ her brides.

Agreed

Yes. And I applaud her for dealing with this difficult, indecisive bride 😅👏🏻

I like the way Ellie is so unusual.

Ellie not only radiates beauty outside,but as well on the inside. She's kind to everyone

Totally agree. For a $10,000 budget I would do something custom.

Customization only works if you know what you want or at the very least know what elements you like. She didn’t have a clue.

@@Dana-bl7gl Exactly. She can't choose if she is dressing herself, a girl with rather conventional. cookie cutter taste (princess neckline, sleeveless corset top with A line skirt seemed to be what she liked) or her fashion industry job persona who is expected to wear something 'unique, expensive and edgy'. That's not who she is, but desperately tires to talk herself into couture selection that she doesn't like. She is Pnina customer, she just wasn't put in the right Pnina dress. Or perhaps she was, but Pnina is not known to be a designer for classy stylish girls, which could have swayed her from her.

@@Dana-bl7gl I believe she knew what she didn't want

@@cdr3986 that was my first taught. She is going to be difficult to please with decoration and clothing ideas. I hope her future husband is aware.

maybe because she has a big budget. she has so many choices and she know fashion. If I go wedding dress shopping i will take a whole moodboard with me😂

Lol. This is so the opposite of my dress situation. I saw mine in a magazine and loved it instantly. I tried it on and to my surprise it was the one and bought it immediately. The only dress I ever tried. Been married 25 years.

@Kerry Stone same. i had a theme for the wedding, i saw a dress online that fit the theme, found it on ebay for $125 and that was it. i literally only went to a store to try it on in person to make sure i didn't look like a total dumpster fire in it. i wouldn't say i was in love with it, but it worked and it was cheap so 🤷‍♀️

@@smallbonsaitree same but I'm picky with dresses I think she picky

She picky ever heard of that word....

Agree. I thought #3 would be the end game!

The dress was nice but the fabric was ugly. Sister just stated the fact. They’re there to help.

You do know that this is a scripted TV show and a lot of the appointment is edited out, don't you?

I was trying on my first wedding dress in the first shop I ever went to when someone walked by carrying a wedding dress to another customer. I just saw the hem of the dress. I said I want that one and it was THE ONE. I tried a third one on just to make sure, but it was in fact the second dress I ever tried on that I wore to my wedding in 2015. I still love every bit of that dress even 9 years later. So I can totally relate to the brides who fall in love with their first or second dress.

Same here. I tried on my first wedding dress ever, in a small not so elegant store, to do a friend a favor who wanted to see me in a dress. I was not even going to buy a dress in Seattle, but back home in Germany. I thought I was going to wear a knee length dresd. This dress I tried was a Cinderella dress with bows in the front. I loved it and bought it for 150 dollars. I still love myself in my wedding photos 36 years later.

I suppose it was foolish to look for a wedding dress at a store that sells wedding dresses.

@@MsAngelique I am not sure that is what Phoebe meant. She I think means that the bride should have gone to high end stores that aren't strictly bridal designers if she wanted to find something unique and high end... I think that was a good suggestion as she may have found a dress that she could have in white or cream or pink that wasn't bridal but at least it satisfied her aesthetics. She must have run out of time however because the dress she picked was nothing special.

@@MsAngelique WHEN I got married MY wedding dress DIDN'T come from a place that was ONLY wedding DRESSES

Agreed

Very Marilyn Monroe!

The fact I'm 17 and I already know what my wedding dress will look like (yes I know there might be a time my taste will change but honestly it won't cause my taste is on the hard core side)

Her hair and makeup are so utterly false, how in the world can you tell what she herself is??? That heavily bleached hair, and the three inch thick makeup hide her entirely!!

Soling106 I literally thought that when we first see her. So gorgeous ☺️

@@FightingIncorrectStereotypes this is exactly the comment i hoped to see! so many people commented on Ellie's look and i'm glad i wasn't the only one who got Marilyn vibes! :D

I LOVED that dress!

Yea her sister was a bitch for nit picking on it and ruining the brides moment

And I think she believes her guests will expect something super amazing on the day because of her career.

I feel the same.

You and Grace are both correct. She has high expectations because she hopes and expects that her family and friends and whoever else will also have high expectations. She was too into what others thought instead of having her own moment. In the end, the dress she did wear was nothing special, it was very normal bridal dress. I do not know if it was custom or else she ran out of time and bought something that was ritzy looking within her budget.

Spot on.

She's pretty indecisive, one minute she loves the dress, the next she starts second guessing, then she tries another one, she loves it, then the cycle repeats over again. It's a bit irritating but I get it I'm also indecisive when it comes to clothes, not that this has got anything to do with this but I remember when I was at the mall choosing my dress to wear under my graduation gown for my high school graduation about nearly 3 years now, my mom was with me looking at dresses with me. We pulled like at least a handful of 5 pretty ones that I liked and believe me I took a while in the dressing room trying to decide which one I would buy while trying them on 😂😂😂 With this bride though it kind of feels like she's kind of insecure, she cares so much about fabric, quality, silhouette, beading, how it makes her look, etc. I understand that she wants everyone else's approval but it's about what she wants and by the looks of it at the end her entourage approved of the last dress yet she couldn't say yes and honestly it broke my heart a bit because she looked amazing in that last dress. Maybe she just needs some time to think and go back to find her dream dress.

Or divorced

@@rachelhanney5330 beat me to it. Lol

@@rachelhanney5330 This one might be divorced. Amazing she accepted a proposal.

@@wandasetzer1469 why is it surprising that she accepted the proposal?

@@rachelhanney5330 yeah I was thinking that but didn’t wanna sound all negative 😂😂

I was looking for a comment like this!

It's hilarious how that works out sometimes.

Must be in her genes

I just learnt something new! 😁

@@lenlewis76 I am a 'Meinel' which is Bavarian for...everything is mine. Heh.

Exactly what I was thinking! Have a great day!!

Not on a 10k budget. Unless she's a sample size

Amen

Same thing i would have thought

10k isn't enough. Yall just like to hear yourselves talk

I'm sure you looked absolutely beautiful and didn't break the budget to boot! It astounds me how some brides spend tens of thousands of dollars on a dress they will only wear for one day!

🤣🤣

Sarcasm I see.

She loves her job. Do you love your job?

​@@marniebirger4907 seriously?

😂

Apparently it does for her.

Well of course not, but when you work in a profession where you are paid to be critical of something, it’s pretty difficult to turn that off. I work within the film world, and if I want to relax while enjoying a story like I used to it has to be a book, cause I can’t relax while watching movies anymore. Especially mediocre or bad ones. My brain is too busy picking it apart, rather then just enjoying it. If that was how I felt with dresses and I then had to find myself a wedding dress, which is a dress even none fashionable people have high standards for, I wouldn’t know what to do either.

I love that you bought your dress from Ross! My first one came from Sak's I think, around $100, not a wedding dress, just one I liked. My second was a clearance holiday dress from Mevyn's for $12 :-D Never been someone who "always dreamed about her wedding dress." High five!!

Because they thrive on finding flaws.

its either they dont know what they want.. or they do and if its custom made they will still find flaws

I got mine at J.C.Penny’s discount rack! It was beautiful!

Debbie mine was also from JC Penny and it was a clearance dress. I only paid $20.00 for it. It cost more to have the alterations than my beautiful dress. Now my niece is getting married and she wants to wear my dress and she isn't having any alterations done at all on it. Gotta love someone who not only wants to wear your wedding dress but isn't going to have anything done to it

I totally agree. That dress she ultimately chose was similar to the second one, but it was a little bit nicer and had a long train. If the bride had asked for something along those lines, I'm sure the consultant would have found it or something like it in the store.

She liked the 3rd, blush gown but her sister fucked it up. Its not her fault. You can tell her family is toxic and just tells her no to everything, making her hesitate before making a decision. She ends up going crazy looking for something her family needs to approve.

I loved that dress! So gorgeous. But definitely didn't seem to suit her personality.

I loved that one on her too! I think it was a shame that they didn't try on a mermaid petticoat under it to give it some flare and a more distinct silhouette. I really think she might have loved it had they tried that. Plus it would have given her the little oomph that I think she was looking for.

I don't think she would even be satisfied with a custom made gown once she put it on. She would find something to pick about and then talk her self out of liking it.

But she wasn’t looking for boho styles

Yep I found mine online for 250 dollars vintage and also never worn! Totally my style I feel lucky also.

Ummmm that dress was boring. It was pretty on top then plain in the mid and went into some stacked old lady lace. Her sister was right that was ugly the sales person was wrong for not having shown more fishtail/mermaid dresses in that particular shape that the bride did like and changing everything to weird shaggy ball gowns???

The fact that she used none of that education/experience in fashion forecasting, i.e., current and next seasons bridal trends, silhouettes, textures, fabrics, colors, etc...say loads about the fact that she was more likely a sales attendant at a store, than a corporate employee. ***EDIT*** So, I googled her and she was indeed a buyer for Chanel. However, for a buyer, she seemed remarkably uneducated on fashion basics. Director of Buying • Ready-to-Wear, Scarves, Belts, and Other Accessories Oct 2012 - Sep 2016 4 yrs New York, New York USA and Guam CHANEL Boutiques • Associate Director of Buying, Ready-To-Wear Jul 2008 - Oct 2012 4 yrs 4 mos USA and Guam CHANEL Boutiques • Assistant Buyer, Women's Sportswear Lord & Taylor Apr 2007 - Jul 2008 1 yr 4 mos Women's Contemporary Tees, Denim Collections, and Premium Denim

I'm surprised no one told her how to do her makeup so that she doesnt look like Woody Harrelson in a wig

Being in the "business" she could have found something very high end for $500.00 or less and saved herself a pit of money!

@@felissamata381 I agree and seems lost to me.

​@felissamata381 The fact that she had to be educated on and work with trends doesn't mean she has to like or look for what's on trend. She can be good at her job and have a fashion sense that doesn't match the current.

Funny how she ended up with a rather standard mermaid dress with a long train 😅 it’s a beautiful dress but really nothing special or exclusive. But she looked happy you can find it on twitter

@@4legs4paws55 how do you find the dress she wore on Twitter? Is there a specific hashtag or a name to go by?

That was what Nicole picked for her... she hated it. She may say she wants glamor, but everything she liked was a bit more modern

I had the same reaction to this. Cringe. Someone who touts their expertise and then mangles the attendant vocabulary.

I actually find it quite funny. My mother made wedding dresses . She was old school and didn't need a pattern.

That was her issue she could not describe what she wanted. She needs to bring photos from bridal magazines.

Can you please tell me how you became a seamstress? It's a skill I would love to learn but have no one to teach me and no classes anywhere nearby. I have found one class online but, with no knowledge in this skill, I don't know if they are any good.

@@brandiphillips8157 I learned from my mom, but the cool thing about sewing that people may not realize is that the paper patterns in envelopes that you buy at Hobby Lobby or JoAnn's or Michels come with instructions and glossaries of what the terms mean. Now, it can still be tricky to figure out without help, but get a machine, buy an easy pattern, something without buttons, zippers, or lining, and dive in! anything you don't understand, Google, or look up on KZfaq. eg. "how to sew in a zipper," or "what is edge stitching?" There will for sure be a tutorial!

The last time I got married spent 10 dlrs on dress he paid the preacher 40 dilrs took all of 10 min to get married / never been happier he died 37 1/2 yrs later / hope she finds the right dress / good luck ! DJ

I agree, they were all unbelievably stunning on her. Where does she go from here 🤷‍♀️

Yeah I was rather disappointed when I saw the dress she got married in - it was a nice mermaid dress with a long train - nice but rather boring - seen a 1000 times - nothing special or exclusive 😅but she looked happy that’s the most important

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Your comment is along the lines of what I was going to say, so yes, I agree with you!

Problem is that she doesn't know what she wants. She'd make any dress designer commit suicide.

You can't have a dress custom-made if you don't know what you want, which was the case with the bride in this video. The dress the bride ultimately chose was similar to the second one, but a little nicer and with a train. If the bride had been more clear about what she wanted, the consulted would have been able to find what she really wanted, but I don't think the bride knew what she really wanted yet.

@@Tes7000 if *I* had that kind of a budget. But I agree with you, she didn't know what she wanted so having dress custom-made for her could end up being a waste

That's not what she said. She said she didn't know she wanted the drama on her dress to come from the silhouette as opposed to the detailing. And she just learned that today.

@@MistyGlades567 I could see interpreting what she said like that. You could be right.

@@MistyGlades567 MO

@@katwil89 not "could be right", it's obviously exactly what she meant. She used the term correctly the entire time. Besides, even those not even fashion knows wtf silhouette means, it's a simple word, not some obscure fashion term.

Me too.

That isn't mean. That's just your opinion 😌

You are correct imo that her dress was nothing special. If it was custom made... then I have no idea what her thought process was... If it wasn't... I think she ran out of time and had to choose something. She had Pnina Tornai there and at the very least she could have finagle a design from her or from chanel but not sure what happened... Other than maybe she felt that the pressure was on to impress people and to try to avoid people being scathing towards her dress...

The fact that Chanel wouldn't design a dress for one of its buyers is really sad

How you found her?? I will lke to see her actual dress coudn't find anything :)

If she knew what she wanted she would have had it custom made for her. Then she would have to pay the huge price it would cost to have that done. AND, once it was completed she would have to wear that dress and not keep changing her mind. Being picky is one thing but wasting people's time is yet another. That was the second time she was at that store.

@@dhrishas6177 Something missing here.

Just search Lauren feintuch wedding dress and you’ll get it I’m not able to paste the link

She chose something very soft and whimsical, move her choice but it doesn't go with the description she kept providing

Just checked it - it is a fit and flare lace gown, lace on the bodice and the flare, with a mildly ruffly train

Just looked at the dress she chose. Personally, I liked the Pnina Tornai dress with the matching veil. Wasn’t fond ( to put it mildly) of her train. BUT, it was her day and as long as she feels beautiful, that’s all that matters 😁

I agree, it was very bridal

The sister and everyone loved the last dress, she also did, but she can’t commit to a dress.

I thought the same thing

by family do you mean the ones in her entourage, because most of them loved the dresses she wore. her sister especially thought the last dress was great for her

I agree. She didn’t look high end, unique or even pretty. Sorry for too much over analyzing.

I thought the dress she ultimately chose was nice. She set the bar so high in this appointment that almost any dress she chose was going to be slightly underwhelming. The dress looked like it was straight with lace going down from just above about the knees, and with a long train. The other beading or whatever was hard to see in the picture. Ultimately, the problem was bride's own indecisiveness. She wasn't clear at all on what she wanted, because if she was, they could have found her something like what she ultimately chose during her appointment.

I guess a $1M bridal gown will definitely bring that wow effect?.... or maybe not.

@@blueice011 Dude stop commenting the same thing under every comment

Me too

but she didnt like it so its her choice what she wants, not yours lol.

But the fabric texture was really ugly as her sister pointed out. Maybe the consultant should have steered her towards that direction with a different fabric

I believe she didn't have the money she claimed to have . Or else she would have had a custom made gown . But maybe she just didn't know what she wants , all she know is high end

@@maamea2132 you can customize when you don't know what you want. It's fabric, style, length. More complicated

She didn't get the butterfly feeling

I thought the same, but the problem was that she was not clear at all on what she wanted. The dress she ultimately chose was kind of like the second one, but it was a little nicer and had a long train on it.

@@Tes7000 my thing is, she stated she has been there before and has try several other dresses in the past. I think her expectations are higher than her budget.