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BRIDGERTON Season 3 Episode 4 Reaction and Discussion 3x4 | Old Friends

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@ashleyfanfic
@ashleyfanfic 2 ай бұрын
Penelope, by today’s standard, because of lady Whistledown is actually what we would consider a millionaire.
@sweetmercifulj
@sweetmercifulj 2 ай бұрын
A millionaire on TMZ payroll lol
@abcbandb
@abcbandb 2 ай бұрын
She definitely will be in 10 or so years--she's only been writing for 3 years at this point.
@artbookalex694
@artbookalex694 2 ай бұрын
@@abcbandb I think she is talking about the book motherless she is rich now because she don’t spend the money of LW
@abcbandb
@abcbandb 2 ай бұрын
@@artbookalex694 Yep, I figured as much--just saying without the time jump in the show she's currently dependant upon Portia, which is why she's looking for a husband to escape.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@abcbandb She's dependent on Portia because she doesn't use her Whistledown money. leaving might put her out of society, but I'm not sure in the Bridgeverse. If she and Eloise had gotten a place, it might have been one thing. On her own may be only for widows here.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
Technically, Penelope, you never asked for Colin's help finding a husband; Colin volunteered.
@maaiker2977
@maaiker2977 2 ай бұрын
Exactly he was butting into her business. And he shouldn't make too much dr*ma about the whole LW thing cause he just did to pen what pen did with marina. She prevented her friend from making a relationship mistake. Sure colin was upset. But his actions just upset pen way more.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@maaiker2977 That did look really bad in front of the ton and she didn't know at the time that she would have any other prospect if Lord Debling didn't propose. Maybe the writers are trying to even the playing field, I don't know.
@deffdefying4803
@deffdefying4803 Ай бұрын
@@maaiker2977 wait why are we censoring "drama" now?
@UserName-vb4lg
@UserName-vb4lg 2 ай бұрын
23:06 yeah. Debling is observant. He’s noticed all the mating behavior from Colin well before anyone because of his work with birds. 😂
@karouakiva1714
@karouakiva1714 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@justclaudiabusiness
@justclaudiabusiness 2 ай бұрын
Omg 😂 😂
@fatladysings77
@fatladysings77 2 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@GMBee
@GMBee 2 ай бұрын
Eloise can be a jerk sometimes. When she asked one of the other girls if she really liked embroidery. The girl answered with gusto and started listing stitches. Eloise shut her down with a mean joke. She has a superiority complex when it comes to the other debutantes and she doesn't seem like much of a girl's girl.
@ausetshnaiun8050
@ausetshnaiun8050 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, finally someone else see's it.
@sashabowerbank5445
@sashabowerbank5445 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree she has a superiority complex, she's so busy complaining about her lot in life and being ignorant of her own privilege she simply doesn't hear anything pen says and doesn't acknowledge enough of what she does hear to be cognizant of Pens feelings and wishes. Pen could have shouted at the top of her lungs in Els face I AM LADY WHISTLEDOWN and El probably wouldn't have heard 😂. Saying that she does have a heart and everyone makes mistakes. I'm glad her future is to become a stepmother so she can learn it isn't all about her and mature a bit. Will do wonders for her character to gain some perspective and see other points of view
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
I like embroidery but listening to a list of stitch names isn't something everyone can do.
@GMBee
@GMBee 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets Eloise asked and people get excited about the things they like. There was a more polite way to handle that.
@marleycymon3512
@marleycymon3512 2 ай бұрын
OMG I DEFINITELY agree! Sh'e's funny, but at some point, she's just straight rude and "I'm not like other girls" attitude all the time and it can get exhausting
@tanwirahmed3401
@tanwirahmed3401 2 ай бұрын
Second half is lady Whittledown showdown. Collin doesn't know her secret.
@lisa_moscow8833
@lisa_moscow8833 2 ай бұрын
And he's gonna be mad at first. But I hope that he will be able to appreciate her abilities and efforts and admire them.
@UserName-vb4lg
@UserName-vb4lg 2 ай бұрын
It’s not just about Eloise recognizing her privilege. If she’d been thought to be LW the queen could have taken it out on the whole family. But more than that, the footman saw her. Unchaparoned. With Theo. So she’s LW without the ability pen has to match wits. Or she’s now put Anthony in a position where he has to kill Theo. She can’t marry him. He’s very lower class. She’s killed him and destroyed Anthony. It’s not just about privilege. Eloise’s inability to think about anyone but herself was going to destroy her family. Pen took the only option. In addition, she was pens best friend for years but she didn’t know her at all. She had no idea she was pining for Colin and no idea she wanted love and marriage. Even with Cressida when she’s so sad and talking about being a spinster and her life being ruined and her choices taken, Eloise just makes a joke about how it sounds like German literature. I like her spunk and her spark but Eloise is very short on empathy. That’s why she can’t understand why no one sees the world like she does. Empathy is what allows us to see others as different people with their own wants and needs and stories. Eloise has a lot of work to do to grow and learn how to actually care about others.
@ailene_e
@ailene_e 2 ай бұрын
Yup, love Eloise but she’s very immature. Seems her friendship with Cressida may help her grow up some.
@grumpyunicorn3069
@grumpyunicorn3069 2 ай бұрын
@@ailene_e exactly! When Cressida responded to Eloise’s accusation of spreading gossip and threw it back on her… I was like, ok yes! This friendship makes much more sense now because Cressida will actually help Eloise grow up because she knows how to stand up for herself.
@juanitaguerra5864
@juanitaguerra5864 2 ай бұрын
Guys, the drama will be Colin finding out she’s Lady Whistledown
@ginnyvann580
@ginnyvann580 2 ай бұрын
Coming on here to say this.
@gw6652
@gw6652 2 ай бұрын
👆
@fenniahtvxq
@fenniahtvxq 2 ай бұрын
I love Pen. I think the Queen actually enjoys her "games" with LW. I hope Pen can find a way to keep being LW. It's a job that brings good money.
@tase8723
@tase8723 2 ай бұрын
I think the Queen enjoys the back and forth with Lady Whistledown too. We can see from both Queen Charlotte and Bridgerton how she gets bored a lot. Plus, not having George more often than not, I think the “games” with Lady Whistledown gives her a distraction and something to do/concentrate on. Lady Whistledown is the only one that challenges her.
@ellebrown7821
@ellebrown7821 2 ай бұрын
I love Eloise’s character but she is a brat. She doesn’t think about others in my opinion. She even does it with that Cowper girl. I understand Penelope. Nothing she put in whistledown was a lie. Though it may be harsh, it’s all facts. The way everyone dogs down on her, even her own mother, it has to be liberating for her to talk about people like they do with her. Not a fan of her putting Eloise in whistledown. I understand why she did it but it was shady. So excited for the polin love story.
@TheRealDeal92
@TheRealDeal92 2 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I do feel like Penelope could have told Eloise when the Queen suspected Eloise to be Lady Whistle-down. They could have come up with a plan together. However I feel like Eloise would have tried to convince Penelope to come forward to the Queen. However let’s be honest, the Queen would never believe Penelope to be the writer. She would see it as a sick joke and dismiss her while possibly laughing. Penelope did what she felt she had to do in order to protect Eloise and the rest of the family from whatever the Queen had in mind. What is the only way to save Eloise and the Bridgerton from getting imprisoned by the Queen or much worse? Absolutely. Could Penelope have written much worse in the paper about Eloise by mentioning Theo? It would have been ten times worse if Theo was ever mentioned. His life could have been at risk with certain people who didn’t like him reaching far above his station. Or Eloise possibly would have had to marry him if people knew they were alone together. All in all, I feel like in the end of what Penelope wrote was the best in the long run for everyone. Especially with Marina. Marina never should have tried entrapping Colin in marriage just to secure her future and her children and lying about how she loved him. She deceived him all the same, not caring how it would change Colin in the long run. Penelope knew it would change Colin, possibly for the worst if they did marry. And Penelope did not want the Bridgerton family to be sucked into the mess of it so she found the only way to save them all even if she ruined her family for a long while in the process. That is how much Penelope loves Colin, Eloise and the Bridgerton family which is why I am on the side of Penelope at the end of season 2. Apologies for the long comment. lol. It won’t happen again.
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 2 ай бұрын
Also, if they found out Eloise was meeting a man alone, Francesca and Hyacinth wouldn't be able to marry either. Eloise is selfish bc she doesn't care her actions affect the entire family, not just her. She knows her brothers would never abandon her, so she doesn't understand that girls like Penelope and Cressida, and anyone else who doesn't have a loving family to fall back on, need a husband to survive. A good husband. And if they can't find a good husband, they are toast. Penelope needed to save Eloise from the queen and herself, bc she wasn't listening to her. She also needed to protect the youngest Bridgerton sisters. Why would she give up LW for a friend who ignores her? Especially when she still thought she would never marry and she would have to live at the mercy of her sister and cousin. LW is her only source of income, her only hope when she already thought no one would ever marry her.
@brownenerdygurl
@brownenerdygurl 2 ай бұрын
We forget that Pen is a teenager and when she did what she did, she was even younger, isolated, bullied and very emotional. She's matured this season. She'll fess up to Colin. I think she's ready to step out from behind her quill.
@karouakiva1714
@karouakiva1714 2 ай бұрын
Colin didn't ruin Penelope's life when his actions caused Debling to withdraw his proposal, he saved her from an empty marriage and an empty life. Debling seems like a nice enough guy, but he said he loves what he does, his occupation, so much, that there probably wouldn't be enough love for his wife. And he only knows that Penelope is smart and straightforward, and loves books. He doesn't actually know her, but Colin does. Penelope never felt love in her family. She's a romantic, she wants to love someone and be loved in return. Colin, the love of her life, loves her too, and when they've overcome all the obstacles, they'll get their HEA.
@booknerd_charlie
@booknerd_charlie 2 ай бұрын
I think what people fail to understand is that Colin saved her not only from a potentially loveless marriage, but also from potentially imminent widowhood. Lord Debling was about to embark on a journey through the Northwest Passage, which was notoriously treacherous. Voyages through the passage were rarely successful at that time; it took decades before there were successful attempts to traverse the passage, and even then it was still considered enormously risky. The likelihood that Lord Debling was going to return from that voyage unscathed was slim at best. Which means Penelope was probably going to become a very young widow and live a very very lonely life. Colin knew this, and being her friend, he knew that she wanted more than that from her life, and that she deserved more than a life of solitude. He loves her, and wants to provide her with the love that he knows she deserves
@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy
@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy 2 ай бұрын
It was so jarring to hear that reaction because it was a snapshot of how little love meant to them compared to the thought of security. Everything about that was beautiful. Colin would have been a bad friend not to step up knowing how soft hearted she is, to allow her to be in a passionless marriage.
@und3fin3d22
@und3fin3d22 2 ай бұрын
That exactly!
@robinbirkel3567
@robinbirkel3567 2 ай бұрын
Theoretically, Penelope and Debling would make a great match. He’d be away most of the time, so Penelope could continue as LW without having to hide it from him. She’d be lonely, but if they had kids, the little ones would make her happier. Colin is the love of her life now, but what will happen when he finds out she’s LW? I haven’t read the books; however, the script could literally go off book and choose a different scenario. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@Heather-mz6it
@Heather-mz6it 2 ай бұрын
The proposal "for heaven sakes Penelope are you going to marry me or not" comes directly from the book. The drama is coming from Lady Whistledown.
@MeredithHagan
@MeredithHagan 2 ай бұрын
I like to think that the coachman heard all the ruckus inside the carriage and thought to himself, “I’ve been listening to that girl’s family shit on her for years, it’s time she finally got hers.” Also, the flashbacks in Queen Charlotte told us that Lady Danbury was married off SUPER young. It seems like her brother is younger than her by maybe 10-15 years, and it’s possible they barely knew each other or he wasn’t even yet born when she was sent off to marry that old man.
@snootyvegans
@snootyvegans 2 ай бұрын
That's quite possible - If I were the coachman I would have circled the block a few more times 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kittyce8803
@kittyce8803 2 ай бұрын
After what they did there in that carriage, he better marry her. 😄😍I think Colin and Penelope are my favorite couple. I've never felt so many feelings. 🥰
@mono-mq2ph
@mono-mq2ph 2 ай бұрын
Pen is actually pretty wealthy from lw
@MeredithHagan
@MeredithHagan 2 ай бұрын
Yeah someone did the math, in today’s money she’d have money in the low millions.
@MissBRItesyde
@MissBRItesyde 2 ай бұрын
I love y’all’s reactions! Ok so boom, Pen is flawed however she is trapped by her circumstances and the time. And I can’t ever find it in me to hate on a woman who finds a way out and takes it lol. She learned it from the best cuz one thing Porsche is gonna do, is make sure she secures the bag for her and her daughters. Eloise definitely has grounds to be mad at Pen still, however she does struggle with taking others perspectives into account and it comes across as very self centered at times. But these characters are only 18/19 years old so the mistakes and missteps are spot on for that age. Their prefrontal cortex isn’t done developing yet lol 😂 we gotta give them grace.
@tiffanyharrell757
@tiffanyharrell757 2 ай бұрын
I don't mean no harm Eloise and Penelope's family deserved every word she wrote for the way they have treated her for years
@jessicarodriguez8990
@jessicarodriguez8990 2 ай бұрын
The proposal is actually how it plays out in the book. It’s not the conventional way but their relationship wasn’t the typical one of that time. Normallly they would have needed to court first, ask permission and then propose but knowing each other so long and not wanting to wait now that it’s reached this level it’s going quick. I think the big drama the next half is going to be him founding out she’s Lady W. I’m excited for your reaction to part 2. Blessings.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
He did say he would never court her, so he kept his word.
@anyabukhovetskaya
@anyabukhovetskaya 2 ай бұрын
I like the idea that the reason Colin did not confess before knowing Debling didn't propose is because he doesn't see how much Pen loves him, he afraid she thinks of him like a big brother/good friend and nothing more, and if she is already engaged he didn't want to ruin everything for her (although even riding in carriage UNCHAPERONED is immediate scandal) please before part two rewatch scenes with pen/eloise and pen/colin from s1 and s2 maybe you can get some new perspective on their relationships 1) eloise is not a good friend exactly because she never listens to what penelope says - she never tried to find out reasons of why pen did what she did and never gives her a chance to explain anything - pen told her in s2 she wanted a husband, a family (considering she is always dismissed not only by society but by people who should love her the most: her mother and sisters), she wanted to be happy and had strong belief when love come all this torture will be over debling is great but he would never love her, he was going away for three years leaving our favorite girl alone or worth with her mother - never saw penelope's feelings for colin (even Marina saw it and she knew pen for how long? few weeks?) 2) cressida is a bully yes her family is really bad, but it does not give her right to mock penelope every time she sees her redemption arc is always interesting to see but it does not work until this person realises and apologises for his/her actions 3) colin loved penelope from the start their friendship was so pure and innocent every time they talk, stolen glances, happy dancing, protecting each other, holding hands (or even simple touch of an arm) remember scene between daphne and duke in the gallery? and what we see next: colin in the middle of a ballroom takes Penelope by the hand and goes into a separate room alone and he thinks it's okay in those days people got married for less they grew up together not just as adults but as individuals want to say so much more but english is my second language and I can’t put my thoughts together to explain everything I feel about polin❤
@MerrylynnS
@MerrylynnS 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Her as LW may have offended some ppl bc she talks abt the truth, but her reason for creating LW is valid and I applaud her for that
@mackenzie98
@mackenzie98 2 ай бұрын
Don’t hate the player, hate the game lol
@daniellaaa24
@daniellaaa24 2 ай бұрын
We can't forget, but we def forgive her,💕 If Cresseda can have that grace, then so can she. But now Penelope has been put into a very uncomfortable position😂 She JUST got engaged sooo abruptly, and now has to quickly confess under pressure. Cause aint no way she's marrying into that family with them being unaware of Whistledown forever; Eloise wont allow it lmao! But I can understand if Penelope might need a few days to process & gather her thoughts😂🙏Practice her lines 😂
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 2 ай бұрын
This!
@karouakiva1714
@karouakiva1714 2 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@sandrayeo8347
@sandrayeo8347 2 ай бұрын
Lord Samadani is a Marquess while Lord Kilmartin is an Earl. Even though, they both are noble men in their own right, there is an order or precedence and other unspoken rules that made it more likely for a Lord of higher ranking to be cavalier with others. Hence why Samadani paid no regard to the fact than an other caller was there first
@thornyrose1235
@thornyrose1235 2 ай бұрын
Francesca and Lord John was peak romance. I love them!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
I agree.
@sashabowerbank5445
@sashabowerbank5445 2 ай бұрын
Here first! I've been waiting for this! I think you make a good point about will mondrich. This plot line and those characters don't exist in the books so it's hard to anticipate where it's heading but I have a theory that the whole bar thing might actually get written about by whistledown or even the queen might put her opinion forward that it is honourable to take pride and derive satisfaction from ones work. Perhaps beginning the narrative that gentleman can work should they choose. This could radically impact the series moving forward. Colin as we know enjoys writing like pen and he could write and release a Novel. It's worth noting that the queen may mention how king George was keen on farming the fields to make a difference in the world and that is most honourable. As for pen needing a redemption arc. I personally feel she had very few options available to her to protect her friend and I think, while not perfectly handled, she did make the best choice to guarantee the least damage to elouise
@Syntell
@Syntell 2 ай бұрын
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@isabellanicole2973
@isabellanicole2973 2 ай бұрын
Colin proposed is the same way in the book. The only change was that he knew pen was lw 😮
@MAYBEE90
@MAYBEE90 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t like that proposal 😭 It came off as too casual, too rushed, as if he only thought about marrying her in that moment :( He didn’t even ask her mom, didn’t court her first, etc. I feel that she deserved more than that!
@Cab1726
@Cab1726 2 ай бұрын
@@MAYBEE90 “I came here tonight because when you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible.” Colin is just pulling a When Harry Met Sally.
@und3fin3d22
@und3fin3d22 2 ай бұрын
@@MAYBEE90everyone has a right to their own opinion of course but especially when you look at other couples they had a lot more of the leg work already down. For example, Anthony didn’t court Kate at all. & Simon & Daphne didn’t really either. I know the second time Anthony proposed they were in a better place but when consider first proposals Pen/Colin are the only ones with a happy proposal. I know for some people they don’t process slow burns the same but due to the aforementioned leg work already in their relationship even when more subtle I don’t think it was rushed at all. Especially considering the time period or other seasons. Even if they were to court the length would be pretty short due to already knowing each other so well. I’m actually glad he didn’t ask her mom before because they would be a whole nother issue because of how her mom treats her so Pen gets to make the decision herself. I personally liked it because it was an iconic book line, it fit their dynamic, and I think it was cute for them. I think a lot of people read it differently than how it’s meant. I mean this in the most positive way when I say this that they absolutely do deserve each other and truly believe just by how the scenes were going and how we can read Colin that he definitely decided before that moment he wanted to marry her. He didn’t even know if she reciprocated his feelings so that was probably first on his list to find out though.
@MAYBEE90
@MAYBEE90 2 ай бұрын
@@und3fin3d22 I completely agree with you! I love Polin the most out of the other Bridgerton couples! Friends to lovers is one of my favorite tropes, and Pen reminds me so much of myself. I love all the little subtle hints that Colin is obsessed with Pen, you can even see these longing looks from him all the way back in season 1! More than anything, I love a slow burn. This season reminds me so much of Pride and Prejudice, with Colin’s very subtle clues of falling in love with Pen can easily be misinterpreted if you don’t pay careful attention. At first, I didn’t like the way he phrased his proposal to her after he was literally all up in her 😭😅 But I’ve rewatched season 3 multiple times now, and I’ve really changed my mind on that proposal. Almost as if Colin is saying, we’ve both wanted this for a long time-marry me already! 🥰😍 Anyway I’ve rewatched the season countless times already and each time upturn another subtle clue from Colin, or Pen, or even from Rae (Pen’s maid)-I noticed Rae is the first person to see through Colin and see that he’s fallen for Pen! The more rewatches, the more details you uncover, it’s honestly been written and directed so beautifully this season!
@laceyjo89
@laceyjo89 2 ай бұрын
it'll prbly be mentioned in part 2, but Penelope is the one of the richest women in london with her Lady Whistledown money. She doesn't need security, she just needs a husband to formally get out of the house. lol. We totally disagree on the lady whistledown thing, If I was Pen, i'd be meaner than she was. lol. She gasses up all those debutantes up at the beginning only for them to turn on her so harshly when it was found out that she and colin had that agreement. All of the ton gossips terribly, she just writes up what is said, prints it, and makes money off it. I can't fault her for it. She only write about high society ppl as well, she's never gone after anyone working class, and was very careful to protect the print shop and theo when she wrote about eloise to make sure they didn't get caught in it. She was trying to protect Eloise by damaging her enough that the Queen would believe she wouldn't write it about herself, but not so much totally ruin her. you can argue she should have done something else to save her, but i think Eloise should have at least listened to her explanation.
@tiffanyharrell757
@tiffanyharrell757 2 ай бұрын
I mean Eloise never listens to Penelope, Colin never listend to Penelope when she told him about the black girl Penelope's own mother don't listen to her.
@katbabyyy
@katbabyyy 2 ай бұрын
Y'all aren't discussing how the biggest blowback next half is WHISTLEDOWN😂Collin doesn't care about Public Opinion at this point, so I dont think the conflict with those "side character" bar friends will affect him. It's his family's opinion that matters the most to him right now I hope.🙏 I don't think he'll hurt her feelings again. Lol cause this man Collin literally said, screw everyone, *I'm getting married NOW.* lol Bringing me to the next blowback, is dealing with ELOIS!😭 She definately wont be happy that her brother is unaware of his own fiance's 2nd life. Those are the things that are stressing me out every other narrative I can wait for; but we need our good sis Penelope to fess up to the Bridgerton family now💀
@jpohl75
@jpohl75 2 ай бұрын
Now we have to see how the Whistledown thing is playing out. He will find out for sure. And it will be very dramatic. Thanks for your amazing reaction 😊
@snootyvegans
@snootyvegans 2 ай бұрын
I cannot wait to see the fallout from all of that!! It will be interesting to see how they smooth it out in the end.
@captainsplifford
@captainsplifford 2 ай бұрын
Yessssss! I've been waiting for this reaction! Thanks so much! I absolutely adore you both. My favorite (dirty) part of this episode was when Colin only used *very* *specific* fingers to fix Pen's dress in the carriage after their fun. Apparently, this was an acting choice by Luke Newton and he didn't tell anyone about it beforehand, but everyone noticed and thought it was perfect when they watched the playback. Such a considerate boy!! 😍
@ambgwin
@ambgwin 2 ай бұрын
LMAO at Syntell saying “Baby please!” Cuz I said the same exact thing. Cue Diahann Carroll 😂
@lisa_moscow8833
@lisa_moscow8833 2 ай бұрын
"heaving bosom"?!😂😂😂 That cracked me
@maaiker2977
@maaiker2977 2 ай бұрын
Sure LW upset people but she is basically their generations investigative journalist. She is keeping it real. If that upset people they shouldn't have done what they did. And she spoke truth to the queen. Thats needed to keep the queen on her toes. She is a freelance journalist with a thriving career while most women had no work nor a voice. Good for pen.
@UserName-vb4lg
@UserName-vb4lg 2 ай бұрын
You guys skipped all the Eros and psyche symbolism but that’s the myth they’re following this season. All the sleeping and waking/lamp imagery. QC and all the swan imagery assign her the role of Venus in the myth. So she’ll set trials moving forward. Worth reading up on the myth before part 2 drops. It’s fun to see how in depth they’ve woven it thru.
@contra3486
@contra3486 2 ай бұрын
7:44 Eloise was making fun of him 😭😭
@kathrynbaker7278
@kathrynbaker7278 2 ай бұрын
When I was a young woman my uncle started preparing for retirement. He took up hobbies, went to workshops, and started taking a bit more time off from work. He had a wonderful retirement. I worked in the medical setting and persons who lost their ability to work as a result of illness or injury struggled significantly with an abrupt change in employment, even when finances are not a significant concern. As you noted, Will has had his professional identity blown up. It was not his choice to stop working, he is fully capable of working, but it is external forces and sabotage from his upper crust patrons that is taking his work away from him. His struggle is understandable.
@ellecerq6409
@ellecerq6409 2 ай бұрын
DJ Colin for the win. Lol i am glad Penelope got the man she loves. LW is going to be a problem, though.
@GMBee
@GMBee 2 ай бұрын
Yaaaas! If the carriage is a-rockin!
@Syntell
@Syntell 2 ай бұрын
Listen, they're trying to make it hot, loud, humid, and musty. Gotta love young love We're here for all of it. Bridgerton delivered yet again.
@KuningannaSansa
@KuningannaSansa 2 ай бұрын
I love Cressida's shoulders tbh, it's giving very 1830s silhouette, which makes her look really ahead of her time fashion wise xD
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
These costumes are all over time fashionwise, and not just Cressida's. Penelope shows up at a ball in a Veronica Lake style and Eloise has an Asian influence sometimes. I don't know what's going on with the other Featheringtons. It's a free-for-all.
@Arionthelady
@Arionthelady 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets And I lovveeeee it. So much better than everyone wearing the same thing but in different colors ( regency dresses are also kinda bland in design imo)
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@Arionthelady It's not like they were ever that accurate. They had tight corset lacing in season one and girls who are out with their hair down. Yes, there are only a few actresses who look really good in empire-waist gowns.
@Arionthelady
@Arionthelady 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets Yeah but even then they were like semi trying to make it look more accurate than they are now, like Daphne's original lil bangs and the dresses were not as creative as they are now. I'm so glad they are coming more into their own style that feels like historical fantasy they are going for.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@Arionthelady Season one was a bit odd too.
@byfelicia0319
@byfelicia0319 2 ай бұрын
Eloise isn’t ruined. Penelope doesn’t need any more redemption. She has gone through more than any of the other ( young) characters in the show. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@sfinn13
@sfinn13 2 ай бұрын
6:46 I would agree with you if only he didn’t acquire the club by losing that fight on purpose in season 1. Half of Lord Featherington’s winnings were given to him. He was so awkward about it in season 2 when people kept commenting on his hard working and honest work in acquiring the club. If he really doesn’t want to give up the club he should find a manager.
@SC-hp5dn
@SC-hp5dn 2 ай бұрын
Looking down on hard working people from your high horse and thinking you’re better because your eating the fruits of their labour is so freaking messed up. I totally get Syntel. Why would someone give up their bar just to fit in! I wouldn’t either . Earning your own bread gives u identity , sense of accomplishment but then again I’m from a different time
@ailene_e
@ailene_e 2 ай бұрын
Call me a Penelope apologist lol idk but I don’t think she needs to “redeem” herself. Shes a young woman who made mistakes she thought were best at the time, and she’s suffering the consequences of that by losing her best friend. And the consequences will continue when Colin finds out. She’s also been regretful and apologetic. Her being lady whistledown does make her a gray character for sure, but she’s no worse than every other person in the ton constantly gossiping. She’s just making money off it lol.
@lesheab3692
@lesheab3692 21 күн бұрын
Great reactions! I love Colin and Penelope's story. The show version is different from the book version but I like that they used more lines and scenes from the book than the previous seasons. Colin's proposal is from the book. The carriage scene with a few changes is from the book. So the writers are keeping it closer. Except Book Colin is not nearly as kind as show Colin. Good thing! The drama will come from LW. Eliose's situation with the printer would have been bad for her entire family. I think Eliose realises that in S3. Based on the books, the Bridgertons have their mates determined so these other potential love interests won't matter😂 I love the extra storylines and characters. Love ShondaLand's Bridgerton
@jojoal7115
@jojoal7115 2 ай бұрын
This is my favorite episode and the carriage scene is the perfect intimate moment in the whole series because Colin and Pen have perfect chemistry they didn’t need to be naked for the scene to be hot they are both clothed but what was disgusting to me is that some people said that the carriage scene was cringe because Colin and Pen has no chemistry and they said their scenes are weird because of Pen body which is truly disgusting that there are still people who think like this. In the book Colin find out that Pen is LW before he proposed so I hope the he found out in a similar way or she tells him I don’t want Elois to go and tell him out of hatred also she should tell Pen to take Colin to a privet place to tell him not for Elois to threaten Pen. I am happy Colin proposed because that mean he thought about it and he is serious also good thing he proposed because if Pen went home without getting proposed to then her mother will talk badly to her and will make fun of her.
@letarivera203
@letarivera203 2 ай бұрын
I think Will does not want to give up his club because he threw away his honor to get it. He'll end up losing it anyway if the Nobles don't spend time there.
@beatyz2
@beatyz2 2 ай бұрын
I think Colin and Pen are super cute 🥰
@BleedingHeartFlowerCrying
@BleedingHeartFlowerCrying 2 ай бұрын
They are....Polin is the best couple out of this whole series!
@deleciadean5742
@deleciadean5742 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the drama will be Colin finding out about Miss Lady Whistledown.
@territurner2299
@territurner2299 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ both of your reactions to anything you react to. Keep it up I'll continue watching❤❤❤
@ginnyvann580
@ginnyvann580 2 ай бұрын
Their conflict isn’t really them getting together. Their conflict is that she is LW, and he has to come to terms with that. That is why the proposal happens so early in their story. It happens in the same place in the book. The difference is in the book he already knew she was LW before the carriage scene and before he proposed. He actually was the first to find out and not Eloise. 🤷🏾‍♀️
@snootyvegans
@snootyvegans 2 ай бұрын
That would definitely make a different story! I'm sure they chose this direction to add more spicy drama 😊
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@snootyvegans Eloise didn't even find out till she was getting married (some of the books have events going on at the same time as events in the other books, since the books are separated by lead romance and not by timeline and only stay in the couple's POV) and then she was kind of like, oh, okay. Lady Whistledown doesn't write about Marina (who is actually a Bridgerton cousin in the books) or Eloise and they don't fall out. Kind of the same as Kate and Edwina. Much less drama that way.
@artbookalex694
@artbookalex694 2 ай бұрын
Penelope will have 6 confession of love from Colin 😭💗
@rhiahlMT
@rhiahlMT 2 ай бұрын
My father has always said if I sit around I might as well dig my own grave. I've retired and dad is still going strong at age 93. Good for him. But, he found other interests and moved on after retirement. Me, I'm struggling, but not so badly I want to go back to work. 😊😊
@roxysdg334
@roxysdg334 2 ай бұрын
Pizza for lunch with my 4 year old grandson and you guys. Lets gooooo!
@Syntell
@Syntell 2 ай бұрын
So happy to share a meal with you. We hope you enjoy.
@roxysdg334
@roxysdg334 2 ай бұрын
@@Syntell everything is always a little more enjoyable when watching you both.
@roxysdg334
@roxysdg334 2 ай бұрын
I changed my profile pic because he said he wanted to say hi and you could not see him. LOL❤️
@snootyvegans
@snootyvegans 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@sarickacampbell2642
@sarickacampbell2642 2 ай бұрын
Penelope never needed any redemption for me I really don’t see anything wrong with whistledown.
@Fluffyburns
@Fluffyburns 2 ай бұрын
The drama will definetely be when Colin finds out Pen is LW I don't mind the drama, but I do hope that they don't drag it out for too long considering there is only 4 episodes left, and they need their happy ending. I'm just a little worried. But on the other hand I don't think Shonda would take the risk of breaking them up. They would lose too many viewers if they did that. But nothing we can do right now is to wait and see what happens.
@yummytoenailz
@yummytoenailz 2 ай бұрын
loving the back to back content coming back when i have food
@yummytoenailz
@yummytoenailz 2 ай бұрын
alright back
@canita247
@canita247 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you about people dying when they retire. I've seen it a few times. And I've seen people continue to work until the day they die for fear of dying after retirement. It's sad. I work 3 jobs because I have a passion for staying busy doing things that I enjoy. I do not even see retirement as an option for me. I have to be doing something.
@Pfruit0916
@Pfruit0916 2 ай бұрын
The dialogue of the proposal was exactly like the book. I don’t believe for a second Colin will hurt Pen. Especially not from the context of other ppls approval. He no longer cares what other ppl think. The bigger likelihood is that Colin will be hurt bc he doesn’t know that Pen is lady whistledown. And if they follow the book his upset is more from a place of worry that Pen will be cast out of society if ppl find out it’s her. I never really felt Pen needed to be redeemed. Everyone in society gossips, lady Danbury and violet do it all the time. We have just seen Eloise embarrass Pen by revealing that Colin was helping her find a husband, so they are even. The only difference between everyone else & Pen is that she does it in writing. But at no point has anything she said ever been a lie.
@heatherrose5594
@heatherrose5594 2 ай бұрын
Y’all just make me smile the whole video 😊
@snootyvegans
@snootyvegans 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for joining us on this journey!! Can't wait until part 2.
@alisasanders3
@alisasanders3 2 ай бұрын
In that time they looked down on the working class, that’s wild though
@TheHestya
@TheHestya 2 ай бұрын
I think the proposal was very right. To Lord Debling she said he would have to ask her mother. But she doesn't shine when she allows her mother to dictate her life, like her yellow dresses. She shines when she is in charge of her life. So he had to ask her, not her mother, no other way. If it wasn't then and there, he'd think about it clearly and then would do what would have been the proper thing, which would be asking the mother.
@ayeshabjordan
@ayeshabjordan 2 ай бұрын
“You gone get this nipple work” is crazyyyy 😂😂😂
@t.j._fury
@t.j._fury 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😃
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
Lady Danbury can't be a spinster; a spinster is a woman who has never been married.
@polivepea
@polivepea 2 ай бұрын
Exactly...she's a widow not a spinster
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@polivepea Yes.
@dancemachine1919
@dancemachine1919 2 ай бұрын
Not the Dwayne Wayne reference! You right though 😭😂
@Nina-zm4ej
@Nina-zm4ej 2 ай бұрын
I don’t feel like Penelope needs a redemption for Lady Whistledown in general. She should make amends to Eloise, but not because she published her business, but rather because she did so without giving her a choice. She took Eloise’s agency on that. But keeping in mind that while we know the Queen somewhat, to the people of the Ton she’s someone with the power to behead them coming clean was a terrifying and terrible option. If she wanted to completely ruin Eloise, she could’ve mentioned Theo, and Eloise knows just how risky it was to meet a man unchaperoned and in secret and refused to listen to Penelope-s warnings. It is honestly a mix of teenagers making rash decisions out of fear. From my perspective, it wasn’t a matter of throwing her friend under the bus for her business, but rather amputating her leg without consent after she was pinned down on a bear trap by the most powerful person in their society, so they could both hide from her, instead of asking her to release the bear trap by placing herself at the mercy of someone so mercurial. And sure, following this analogy, the Queen wouldn’t’ve placed a bear trap if not for Penelope, but are we really going to say she shouldn’t criticize her leaders, when humanity has fought for that right via revolutions? Like, I know it’s not that serious a type of show, but it’s still the lens in which I look at it, and so I give more leeway to Penelope then others. That plus the fact that I don’t like how Eloise was as a friend. She would’ve figured out Pen was Whistledown if she actually heard her since most of the time she didn’t (her words). It was honestly a very one-sided relationship. It does not mean I think she deserved it, it just means I don’t empathize with her as much. Also, have you seen the promo for next part? It is DEFINITELY gonna be drama in it.
@MerrylynnS
@MerrylynnS 2 ай бұрын
AGREED
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
1. The English *monarch did not have the power to behead people for writing about them in this period.* I know this is a silly AU, but that's a bit far.2. Queen Charlotte was never the English monarch. *She was queen-consort, the King's wife.* If Charlotte were running the country, she would have far less time to be bored and play matchmaker. At this time, her and George's son, the future George IV, is ruling in the King's stead due to the King's incapacity. *The son is Prince Regent (ruling as regent for someone who cannot rule), which is why this is called the Regency.* This is also during a period when the powers of the monarchy are being further reduced. 3. Although Charlotte jokes about beheading people, nothing in _Bridgerton_ or _Queen Charlotte_ suggests that would be in character for her, even if she had the power, which she did not. Sure, we should criticize our leaders, but the Queen is not a political leader as she is not a ruling Queen. If Penelope were criticizing leadership, she would be writing about Parliament or the Prince Regent, to whom Jane Austen dedicated a book because he asked her to, even though she disliked him.
@Nina-zm4ej
@Nina-zm4ej 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets thanks for the info!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@Nina-zm4ej You're welcome. It is apparently my -obsession- mission to set the record straight on Charlotte's powers. :)
@tiffanyharrell757
@tiffanyharrell757 2 ай бұрын
And you wonder why she created an alter ego
@akutyam
@akutyam 2 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t understand why people root for Debling after they hear him say that he probably won’t love Penelope and to soften the blow says but it’s ‘lovely that you have such a full life’. When we all know that she is freaking lonely because her family sucks, the ton doesn’t like her and her best friend is not speaking to her anymore All Pen wants is to be loved. Why should she freaking settle for Debling when we know that the love of her life loves her back????? I will never understand that and every reaction of this episode I just don’t get it. Otherwise, great reaction, thank you
@em8066
@em8066 2 ай бұрын
Glad I read the comments before watching. Sounds like it's a repeat of their reaction to season 2. "But, but, money!" xD
@scrappytracy5557
@scrappytracy5557 2 ай бұрын
I don’t want Pen with Debling, but I appreciate that he kept it real with Pen. He didn’t lie about what he was looking for. I think he’s a decent guy, so I hope he finds someone else. Maybe Cressida, if she can really change?
@CherryBlossomGirl206
@CherryBlossomGirl206 2 ай бұрын
Y’all are too hard on Penelope and way too easy on Eloise. I’m so team Penelope on this and think she deserves the world. After everything she’s endured from society, her family, and disloyal friends, I support her Lady Whistledown endeavors lol
@carlareginasilvamonteiro9633
@carlareginasilvamonteiro9633 2 ай бұрын
Francesca and John 😍😍😍😍😍
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 2 ай бұрын
Love this episode. I am now fully hoping for Cressida to have a redemption arc. Understanding her a bit more has made me have compassion and empathy for her. Eloise continues to be my favorite character. While I'm still not quite team Penelope yet I'm happy that Colin will be a "thorough and fulfilling" husband for her lol. Enjoyed y'all's reactions and pov as always.
@piracychic
@piracychic 2 ай бұрын
Your theory about Lady Danbury’s brother hooking up with one of her girlfriends is my theory too! He did say that his marriage didn't start out loving; maybe they were caught in a compromising position.
@itsreeeshaaa7560
@itsreeeshaaa7560 2 ай бұрын
An interesting episode to be sure. Seeing now that if it weren’t for Cressida’s friendship with Eloise she wouldn’t have a place in society makes me appreciate Cressida a bit more. Seeing how her father behaved and Cressida still being loyal to Eloise made me appreciate her a little bit more. While people like to pile on Eloise while putting Pen on a pedestal I remember that Eloise is also trapped in her circumstances and she hasn’t found her voice quite yet. I try to remember that like Pen Eloise is young too. I will always root for Eloise. Francesca has probably found the man perfect for her and I’m dying to see more of how the queen is going to deal with her choice not working out again lol.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
All of this. The Queen really needs to find a new hobby or a new family. I'm sure there is one who could use uplifting more than the Bridgertons do.
@elizabethjones4190
@elizabethjones4190 Ай бұрын
I just wanted to say I really enjoy your channel especially your bridgeton episodes I think is hilarious I think you're really good I could tell that y'all don't skip ahead so y'all really just taking it one video at a time I love it Thank you I've been watching your videos all day at work and they are very entertainin❤. On a side note this was my favorite series by far this season is just great I've always loved Colin and Penelope I did read the books and I do like the show better.
@NovakLily
@NovakLily 2 ай бұрын
That carriage scene made my month. Lol so hot.
@Sadji594
@Sadji594 2 ай бұрын
I love you guys take on this. I think the issue with will is kind of like you guys said like he's clawed his way to the top and he doesn't really understand. But the issue is is now he's going to start struggling in his bar because now people don't want to come to his bar. And I think because they feel like he'll know stuff about them that they don't want him to know. But also because how they feel about the peerage and the tongue. If I was him I would have someone else manage the bar and just work on the books from behind the scenes. So it makes it seem like it's not my bar but it is my bar. And kind of kill two birds with one stone. So keep your bar keep that money but you don't have to be there to run it like. But now it's suffering because he's losing business because people don't want to come because they don't think he should work. And I get what you guys mean about everyone. Not really understanding their privilege, but Eloise really does not understand her privilege. Because Eloise's family loves her, they have a very good name. That's why she was so easy to come back into society even after almost being ruined by whistle down. And her family status and money affords her the ability to not have to get married right away. Cressida dare I say and Penelope understand their family is not so well off and their family is not so well in society that they can never take a husband. Violet and Anthony were like listen. We're not going to push Eloise to get married. If she don't want to get married it is what it is. But other ladies don't have that option
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that probably will be what Will ends up doing. Thank you for not tearing Eloise down. She has gotten some idea about privilege from dealing with Theo, but I also feel her privilege is less than her brothers and that is what chafes at her. I'm surprised her family hasn't sent her on a grand tour as part of completing her education, possibly with a chaperone or one of her brothers. (Well, not really surprised, as the show has no interest in that.)
@tiffanyharrell757
@tiffanyharrell757 2 ай бұрын
I mean they called her fat and they said that she was undeserving of love basically
@carlareginasilvamonteiro9633
@carlareginasilvamonteiro9633 2 ай бұрын
Polin forever 😍😍😍😍😍
@elizabethbarringtonthealia911
@elizabethbarringtonthealia911 2 ай бұрын
I have this tinfoil hat theory (Though I could be wrong) that the s*@t is about to hit the fan with the queen taking a stand openly against Whistledown AND the Bridgerton family because she's been made to look like a fool with Francesca turning down her suitor. Everything will come to a head with Collin wanting to marry Pen, especially if Pen is found out to be Whistledown..
@jojoal7115
@jojoal7115 2 ай бұрын
So I have been reading people saying Pen need to redeem herself but how if she already fells guilty, she apologized, she wrote about herself which ruined her more than she already was so what does she need to do like die or confess to the queen about being LW and wait for either be killed or banished I am confused because Cressida who is a bully get complemented for doing something not out of kindness but for a friend while Pen did something wrong to help a friend cause it was her only solution so people love Cressida and hate Pen. Elois was a bad friend who never acknowledges her mistakes she never paid attention to Pen and now when they are not friends she gossip around people without caring also her gossip wasn’t helping Pen it ruined her while Pen at least what she wrote helped Elois and in this season I don’t see Elois ruined she had a friend easily because she is a Bridgerton and other girls talk normally with her so why is people saying Pen ruined Elois completely. while Pen doesn’t have friends and Cressida still bully her other girls don’t speak with her so in what way is Elois ruined that Pen need redemption and I hope they don’t get to be friends with only Pen apologizing and Elois getting away with being a bad friend they better both start to be better and Elois really need to stop being self centered and acknowledge her mistakes.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
I don't want to get into everything because I feel like I am spending half my life defending Eloise, whom I adore, and I feel the same frustration you do but on the other side. So I'll just skip that part. I'll just say this: Yes, Penelope apologized, but after "I'm sorry," she immediately started defending what she did and when Eloise asked her whether she was sorry for what she did or because she was found out, it was clear she was sorry she was found out. In her mind (and the minds of many commenters here), she was justified. It's like a celebrity saying, "I'm sorry you were offended" or someone saying, "I'm sorry I hurt you but I had no choice." Either stop at "I'm sorry" or say something that shows you really understand what you did. Okay, That's it.
@jojoal7115
@jojoal7115 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets Thank you for the comment, I love Elois but I don’t like that people just defend her and act like she doesn’t have flaws same as Pen she has flaws but we can tell she is sorry about what she did but I don’t think she wanted people to know she is LW since she gets money from this job and she enjoys it, yes what she did was wrong and I do understand Elois of course she will feel betrayed and angry but to be friend with a bully doesn’t make sense and for me I am tired of people saying Pen need to apologize because they never believe her apology so why doesn’t Elois open her heart like she did to a bully who bullied her ex friend for years so Elois goes and have a conversation with both of them speaking maturely, for both of them to pay attention to each other and acknowledge their mistakes also they need to discuss how to solve the problems.
@jojoal7115
@jojoal7115 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets I hope my comment is good because my English isn’t good so I don’t know how to express everything I want to say anyways I hope that they be friends again but I want both to acknowledge their mistakes because I am tired of people only wanting Pen to redeem herself cause Elois also need redemption their friendship wasn’t strong before.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@jojoal7115 I see so many people in the comments tearing into Eloise, and you see so many tearing into Penelope. It is a funny we see what we would least like to see. I'm pretty sure they will work things out.
@jojoal7115
@jojoal7115 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets Thank you for the comment and I also hope so.
@elleMerci_bey
@elleMerci_bey 2 ай бұрын
So ya’ll didn’t watch the trailer for the second half? Eloise is going to have a big problem with their engagement.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
I believe they don't watch those because they want to avoid spoilers. I didn't watch it either.
@tiffanyharrell757
@tiffanyharrell757 2 ай бұрын
I mean colin saying out in public that he would never court her and that she is just a good friend
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
He kept his word. He didn't court her. :)
@ranzkayl
@ranzkayl 2 ай бұрын
There's a teaser for part 2 at the end of the credits of episode 4, if you'd like to see a preview of what's to come. Also, maybe unpopular opinion, and unrelated to whatever happen between him & his sister, but I'm not liking Lady Danbury brother. Hope to be proven wrong, but he's giving me fucc boi vibes
@letarivera203
@letarivera203 2 ай бұрын
Colin hates Lady Whistledown and his sister knows, that is the 2nd 1/2 drama. Pen took drastic measures to help both Coilin and Eloise. Because he was 1 I do away from a loveless marriage with 2 kids that are not his and Eloise was about to ruin her virtue, shame her family and the Queen thought she was Whistledown (we have no idea what the punishment for that would've been). She was scared for her and teenagers do not have the best judgement even when they are fairly intellegent. And never forget she did try to warn them as Pen nobody listened to her. Not her cousin, Colin or Eloise. I believe intent can sometimes be more important that the action taken. Pen intended to save the people she loves and did so effectively at great cost to herself. Because honestly she could've just sat back and let them suffer that would've been the eaisiest thing to do after she tried warning them. Colin would be trapped by her cousin and Eloise would be disgraced even further than she is now and the Queen would've wrongfully punished her for being Lady Whisteldown. Does that make Pen a better friend? Or was she supposed to fall on the sword for their stupidty by confessing she is Whistledown? In either case as much as they suffered she risks losing the love of her life, her best friend, invoking the Queens wrath and being ripped apart by society when they find out. She could've shut up married Dublin and been living her best life with her relationships in tack even though their lives would be in shambles. And if that makes her triflin then in truth her crime is choosing the wrong people to care about!
@emmarose6590
@emmarose6590 2 ай бұрын
Yesss!!! Been waiting for this one 😅 would like to call out. Penelope has a ton of money from last whistledown. Someone converted how just h she had and she had over a million dollars.
@Syntell
@Syntell 2 ай бұрын
I million, WOW!!
@alisasanders3
@alisasanders3 2 ай бұрын
The whole lady whistle down thing is going to come into play. In the book he finds out before the carriage scene. It’s going to be messy.
@karouakiva1714
@karouakiva1714 2 ай бұрын
It's always messy, isn't it. Shondaland can take a problem that could be resolved by episode 3, and stretch it to episode 8. I've made my peace with it, now I just sit back and enjoy.
@TheJudy1943
@TheJudy1943 2 ай бұрын
Syntell , no need to apologize for your statement. When most people lose their passion- reason for being whatever it is, they wither. Body and soul. Especially when they are old.
@wiccangirl1985
@wiccangirl1985 2 ай бұрын
My theory on the issue with Lady Danbury and her brother might relate to her marriage to her late husband. He may have had hand in the arrangement or did not speak up against it, something to that degree.
@deliaolivia8300
@deliaolivia8300 2 ай бұрын
He's younger than her. She got engaged at 3 years old he had no say in it at all.
@oyaami1874
@oyaami1874 2 ай бұрын
It is ironic that Penelope was so quick to reveal Marina's secret, but is prepared to lie to Colin. People keep mentioning that Eloise had no inkling that Penelope was lady whistledown, but even Penelope's own relatives had no idea, it just goes to show how devious she is.
@snootyvegans
@snootyvegans 2 ай бұрын
I thought Eloise would possibly know because she was the closest person to Pen and more like family than her actually family 🤷🏽‍♀
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@snootyvegans Have you ever seen _Double Indemnity?_ There is a bit in that about not knowing who the culprit was because they were too close. I think Eloise never thought of Penelope because she loved her. It had to be thrown in her face for her to realize it.
@AJ-ff2os
@AJ-ff2os 2 ай бұрын
Penelope's family doesn't know her because they don't care enough to try.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@AJ-ff2os That's true.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
Lady Danbury always has advice; she doesn't always have good advice.
@jackieknoll9818
@jackieknoll9818 2 ай бұрын
Lady Danburry's Brother is the one who propsed to Queen Charlotte
@scrappytracy5557
@scrappytracy5557 2 ай бұрын
No, it was the queen’s brother, Adolphus, we proposed to Lady Danbury.
@jackieknoll9818
@jackieknoll9818 2 ай бұрын
yes , sorry.
@jackieknoll9818
@jackieknoll9818 2 ай бұрын
I rewatched it. lol
@chinllanos6392
@chinllanos6392 2 ай бұрын
Eloise can be insensitive most of the time because she feels suffocated about the reality of being chained to the idea that every girl should just marry and be happy with it, that she forgets that other people are really happy having that marriage for themselves. the Whistledown issue was her fault though. she was the one who started the scavenger hunt but when it came down to having that ruckus with the Queen, she just wanted Whistledown to throw herself up so that she can be saved. Eloise tends to push her ideas to others but doesn't listen to them. at the carriage when she's talking with Colin, she was shocked that Penelope wanted to find a husband, Penelope was vocal about wanting to enjoy soirees and finding a husband ever since Season 1.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that Eloise was searching for Whistledown for a good chunk of time to get her to retract what she said about the Featheringtons for Penelope's sake.
@jLachelle3
@jLachelle3 2 ай бұрын
I wish we got more of Francesca and John. They were so cute.
@jmboyd65
@jmboyd65 2 ай бұрын
Colin's friends suck.
@meganlynn83
@meganlynn83 2 ай бұрын
YAYYY!!! I'M SO EXCITED!!!
@lashawnbro
@lashawnbro 2 ай бұрын
Can we PLEASE talk about the show Harlots, omg it was the messy Bridgerton before Bridgerton came out P.S. Domina had me in a chokehold as well
@user-dx2dm8oq8g
@user-dx2dm8oq8g 2 ай бұрын
Pen has money, the convenient "spinster aunt" portia was saying was sending them money has to be Penelope. If people saw an unmarried woman pulling money out of nowhere that would be suspicious, and you know her mom and sister will be all up in her business if they knew she was making bank. Debling is perfect on paper, I think he actually liked Pen since he's the one who approached and pursued her. If he was only looking for someone to manage the estate he wouldn't have been hurt by realizing Pen loved Colin and would not have left the party. Once Eloise learns Colin wants to marry Pen all hell will break loose, I don't know how he'll take the LW reveal.
@sfinn13
@sfinn13 2 ай бұрын
The money Portia is referring to is the one cousin Jack swindled last season from the ton. Penelope is not giving her family money.
@karouakiva1714
@karouakiva1714 2 ай бұрын
I think Debling didn't want to marry Penelope, when he found out about her and Colin, because she could get pregnant in Debling's absence. And not only would it be embarrassing, but also mess up the inheritance.
@user-dx2dm8oq8g
@user-dx2dm8oq8g 2 ай бұрын
@@sfinn13 Oh yeah I forgot. So she has all that money but can't buy new stuff cause they'll notice and will want to make her their cash cow.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@sfinn13Exactly. Penelope used a phony inheritance to give her family money in the book, but Portia uses a phony inheritance to hide the money she and Jack swindled in the show.
@katiesmith2447
@katiesmith2447 Ай бұрын
The money is from the swindle in season 2. However, interestingly, this is actually what happens in the book. When an aunt dies, Penelope has the lawyer who is kind of like her agent, say that the aunt had this large sum of money.
@deliaolivia8300
@deliaolivia8300 2 ай бұрын
One thing that the series fail to potray is how much time actually passes. Penelope is not supposed to be 20 shes 27 and has been out for 12 seasons. Thats a long time. And shes been LW for over ten years so they fail to grasp how long she's been without a prospect.
@dslaughter3555
@dslaughter3555 2 ай бұрын
I wonder why the show decided to change that from the book? I haven’t actually read the book but I think I would rather Colin find out about Penelope being LW before he proposes to her but I know it’s for the drama😭
@deliaolivia8300
@deliaolivia8300 2 ай бұрын
@@dslaughter3555 that's how it goes in the book. He finds out because he was following her thinking she was meeting with another man, then carriage scenes and he proposes to her knowing that she is lady whistledown. But LW in the book has been going for a decade at this point and Lady Danbury offers a prize for who unmasks her and LW retires like two weeks later. Then Cressida finds out and blackmail Penelope. It's a whole other thing in the book. Plus book Eloise the sweetest friend and was proud of penelope even named her daughter after her.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
They changed that in the show, so she hasn't been out that long on the show. Anthony and Kate are trying for their first child. Eloise has only recently experienced blowback from the artilcle about her. Cressida's father calls her "that Bridgerton girl.' She and Penelope are still on the outs. Francesca is just having her debut and Hyacinth and Gregory aren't much older thatn previously. Portia tells Penelope she is foolish for thinking she can find a husband in her third season out. Yes, some things with Penelope and Colin's story would make more sense with the time jump, but the showrunner (and Shonda, as gather they discussed this) elected not to have a time jump but to have another kind of jump as this story leapfrogged over Benedict's to be told even earlier.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
@@dslaughter3555 And Whistledown doesn't do the things that some of us hate and others love (Marina, Eloise) in the books, so more drama.
@deliaolivia8300
@deliaolivia8300 2 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets and francesca would have already been married if we were following the books. They're story makes a lot more sense if they were done in order.
@Afrodiva
@Afrodiva 2 ай бұрын
Ya'll are killing me how you are spending all of your time discussing all the side plots I don't give a damn about. This is Colin and Penelope's season and ya'll are focused on everything else. Francesca and John are cute, but they could cut out the rest and it would be just fine.
@canita247
@canita247 2 ай бұрын
Another reactor said the exact same thing about Franscesca being on the spectrum. I don't know much about the subject, but I can see the possibility.
@leroyderange5080
@leroyderange5080 2 ай бұрын
I think the drama will be Colin finding out that she is whistle down
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