Brief History and Production of the M1905 Springfield & M1 Bayonets | Collector's and History Corner

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8 жыл бұрын

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Brief History and Production of the M1905 Springfield and M1 Bayonets.
Stan of the NJACC presents a brief history and production numbers of the M1905 Springfield Bayonets that were produced in the early 1910s up until after World War 2. The Springfield Bayonets were produced by various companies such as Union Fork & Hoe (UFH), American Fork & Hoe (AFH), Pal Blade & Tool (PAL), Oneida LTD (OL), Utica Cutlery (UC), and Wilde Drop Forge & Tool (WT). Each Springfield Bayonet has its own history and production process that makes them different and unique from each other. One of the most rare or "Holy Grail" bayonets seen in the video is the Oneida LTD bayonet. The Springfield Bayonet was created in response of the ram rod bayonet not being sturdy enough. Interesting enough, when the US entered World War 1, the Springfield Bayonets were blued or parkerized as the original silver shine would reflect light during the day by the sun and at night by the moon.
The M1905 Springfield Bayonets soldiered on through the 20th century. Besides the US using the Springfield Bayonets, other nations such as Greece, Denmark, South Korea, and Taiwan just to name a few have used the M1905 Springfield Bayonets in their military arsenal.
On top of the M1905 Springfield Bayonets, you cannot forget the M3 scabbards that housed them. Like the Springfield Bayonets, the scabbards were developed by various companies such as Beckwith Manufacturing Company and Detroit Gasket Company. Each scabbard has its own history and production process that makes them different and unique from each other.
When World War 2 rolls around, the need for a shorter bayonet for the Americans was needed. The Americans cut down the existing M1905 bayonets to a short knife bayonet. You will hear of the M1905e and M1905e1 bayonets. After the adoption of the M1 Garand rifle, the Americans developed the M1 bayonet for the M1 Garand.
If you are interested in collecting or are collecting Springfield Bayonets, please utilize the resources below as to steer clear from fakes or reproductions being sold as the real deals.
FURTHER RESOURCES OF THE M1905 SPRINGFIELD BAYONETS:
Online
(www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayon...)
(civilianmarksmanship.com/acces...)
(www.fulton-armory.com//faqs/M1...)
(www.thegca.org/pdfs/Bayonets4...)
Books
American Military Bayonets of the 20th Century by Gary Cunningham
US Military Knives, Bayonets and Machetes by M.H. Cole
The U.S. Krag Bayonets by Donald Hartman (ISBN 978-09823021-0-1)
NJACC Website:
(www.njacc.info/)
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TAGS
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@RexApplegate
@RexApplegate Жыл бұрын
My great great uncle carried one to WW1, and as mentioned my grandpa carried one with a fiberglass scabbard to the Philippines to shell the Japanese back to the stone age. My grandpa saw someone jump in a trench and accidentally get impaled by a 1905 on a Garand and die. Between that and the enormous cumbersome size it's no wonder to me why he ditched his at the end of the war. I split the ancestral difference and got an unissued 1905 made between the wars to hang on my wall with their pictures and my grandpa's dog tag. This is an exceptional video and I very much appreciate it.
@alanbower1193
@alanbower1193 7 жыл бұрын
Good video to a point. The picture within picture is very annoying.
@dubyacwh7978
@dubyacwh7978 8 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to watch this and see the differences in the rifle lengths and the picture in the picture is obnoxious!
@gunnerdan
@gunnerdan 6 жыл бұрын
Dubya CWH at about 8:45 it goes away
@lj5673
@lj5673 Жыл бұрын
For real
@jeremybowen5813
@jeremybowen5813 7 жыл бұрын
I just bought a RIA bayonet dated 1910 with a serial number about 2000 higher than any published serial numbers that I can find for that year. Serial is 184683.
@blksubiesti
@blksubiesti 9 ай бұрын
I got a 1906 dated Springfield 03 and found a 1906 Springfield bayonet serialed within 1k of the same serial range as the rifle. Both right at the 150k serial range.
@darrylnelson6264
@darrylnelson6264 5 жыл бұрын
You guys set me on a mission to buy every US bayonet made for each rifle from the Trapdoor to present day (one each). I also have several foreign bayonets for various guns like the SMLE, G2, K98K, Arisaka, K31, and other rifles. I watched this video at least three times now.
@stanleygurski7733
@stanleygurski7733 5 жыл бұрын
I stARTED COLLECTING BAYONETS AT AGE 12 AND i AM NOW 71. ITS AN ADDICTION!
@TheAlice1865
@TheAlice1865 7 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative. But what is all the rude chatter in the background?
@ponycarfan
@ponycarfan 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and very informative. Thank you for sharing this.
@HistoryCollectorsForum
@HistoryCollectorsForum 8 жыл бұрын
+ponycarfan Thanks for commenting! You can also check out the Krag-Jorgensen Bayonets video on my page for more bayonet love.
@JoeyP322
@JoeyP322 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video on history... Thanks so much
@cbm2156
@cbm2156 6 ай бұрын
The troops ordered to Little Rock in 1958 to integrate the schools there by IKE was not the 82nd AB but the 101st AB Division.
@STEVEOMEMES
@STEVEOMEMES 3 жыл бұрын
Chris were can i find a web site of serial numbers an part ID for my 1903 Springfield ? THANK's
@usmcnewdog98
@usmcnewdog98 7 жыл бұрын
This guy is fantastic!
@maxwellpelcher3600
@maxwellpelcher3600 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative
@marklehman9858
@marklehman9858 5 жыл бұрын
Wilde Tool bayonets were date marked 1942 and 1943(one month production). All were made as 16 inch blades. UFH (marked UFH on back of hilt)cut most of these down to M1905E5 configuration, and some of the cut down blades from various different manufacturers were made in to rakes for victory gardens. Wilde tool was located in Kansas City. I have never seen a long Wilde Tool 1943 dated bayonet - only 1942 dated ones.
@curiousentertainment3008
@curiousentertainment3008 3 жыл бұрын
There’s quite a few pictures of ‘43 dated Wilde Tool bayonets.
@bryanlau2697
@bryanlau2697 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Tons of helpful info and interesting stories. I just got my hands on a 1943 Smith Corona 03-A3. What do you think would be the most appropriate bayonet? A 10" M1905 or an M1? Thanks!
@stang3787
@stang3787 3 жыл бұрын
Both are acceptable and appear in Army manuals. So get the first one you can afford.
@mippymoo069
@mippymoo069 Жыл бұрын
great video you really know your bayonets its very interesting
@dalecarpenter8359
@dalecarpenter8359 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool class ! Thank you !
@jasonkirkk
@jasonkirkk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@lj.7311
@lj.7311 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Appreciate it.
@marklazaroff7213
@marklazaroff7213 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. How about identification of cut down M3 scabbards. The original made scabbards 16" and 10" have a gap on the sides of the fiberglas just below the metal. The cut downs do not have the gaps - they have been cut away and the shorter fiberglas scabbard reinserted into the metal. So it is nice to have a cut down scabbard with a cut down bayonet.
@marklazaroff7213
@marklazaroff7213 7 жыл бұрын
PS: Based on your numbers, I have a lot more bayonets to collect - a man only lives so long!
@stanleygurski7733
@stanleygurski7733 6 жыл бұрын
That was supposed to be part of the presentation but I don't use a script and don't rehearsch.
@garyhammond2213
@garyhammond2213 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information.
@HistoryCollectorsForum
@HistoryCollectorsForum Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@briancanaday6109
@briancanaday6109 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1942 Wilde Tool bayonet 16" with the fiberglass scabbard. is it worth anything?
@nayasea3918
@nayasea3918 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO NOW I KNOW I HAVE THE MOST DESIRED RARE 1943 WT 16" BAYONET.
@stang3787
@stang3787 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. My first WWII long bayonet was a WT and i did not find out until much later how rare it is.
@nayasea3918
@nayasea3918 5 жыл бұрын
@@stang3787 Hi Stan do you know anyone who is interested in buying mine?
@stang3787
@stang3787 5 жыл бұрын
@@nayasea3918 I would take it to a gun show. Don't take less than $200 for it if it is in good condition and you don't collect them and you could get $300.
@nayasea3918
@nayasea3918 5 жыл бұрын
@@stang3787 ok thanks for the advice I greatly appreciate it have a great day.
@tommyvinson6
@tommyvinson6 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@JoseSilva-ci2wb
@JoseSilva-ci2wb 5 жыл бұрын
eu amo as baionetas militares
@geraldbarth2172
@geraldbarth2172 5 жыл бұрын
Where was the MK2 for the carbine, and the german sword bayonet and the WWII serrated one?
@chicorodriguez3964
@chicorodriguez3964 5 жыл бұрын
I am a young man who collects bayonets my first purchase years ago is still amongst my favorites it's AFH 1942 in the video he mentioned the earlier versions having plastic handles but mine appears to be brown bakelite also the scabbard has that waffle bakelite look am I wrong because I have seen the black plastic handles also but he never mentioned bakelite being used
@stang3787
@stang3787 5 жыл бұрын
Brown plastic is usually found on Wade Tool bayonets but it is a mix of black and brown. I have seen all brown grips on cut down bayonets so it might have been a replacement part.
@chicorodriguez3964
@chicorodriguez3964 4 жыл бұрын
@@stang3787 the grips on mine are a brown and black mixture and further research has shown me that these were earlier prototypes that had been tested by the military and deemed unfit because the mixture of this plastic could be melted by the solvents used to clean up the highly corrosive ammo they used in those days I read this information in a book called American bayonet history it also said afh was not the only brand to let a few out so all brown handled bayonets are 1942
@cannonball666
@cannonball666 6 жыл бұрын
You failed to mention the M1942 bayonet which was 16" long and with scabbard marked USN Mark 1, but it is NOT the sheet metal training bayonet you spoke of. It is a true 16" bayonet used in the Pacific.
@stanleygurski7733
@stanleygurski7733 5 жыл бұрын
USN MK I scabbards were often teamed up after the War with real bayonets as they are made the same except for markings. There is no truth that having a USN scabbard with a 16 inch real bayonet indicates Marine issue.
@ernestgiboo9006
@ernestgiboo9006 3 жыл бұрын
I have a a few questions about USN 16 inch Mark1 plastic bayonet. My grandfather Korean war vet gave me one at the bright young age of 12. I still have it. I always thought that they were made out of baked a light were they? I have the mark one scabbard usable shape. The bayonet blade is straight with no chips in the blade. To be honest it’s pristine in my eyes. One of the handles has a chip at the bottom right front corner of the handle. What would be the value? Or how rare with the specimen be. I can’t believe it’s in such good shape still. Because I used it as a toy.
@stang3787
@stang3787 2 жыл бұрын
Bakelite is a form of plastic.
@larry648
@larry648 Жыл бұрын
I have the M5 for my M1, but it is a 5,400,000 1954 production. It’s correct.
@dmcgill8978
@dmcgill8978 6 жыл бұрын
Well I was wondering why I couldn't find the proper rifle for my USN MK 1 bayonet. Now I know why. One M1 bayonet down and 114 to go.
@stanleygurski7733
@stanleygurski7733 6 жыл бұрын
Dunn Navy Training rifles do pop up at militaria stores, shows and auctions but they run from $100 to $200 and many show abuse by children who's fathers bought them after the war.
@blksubiesti
@blksubiesti 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleygurski7733 ahhh how I miss the America where children’s dads bought them training rifles as toys and said go play outside with it.
@josephhyatt7664
@josephhyatt7664 4 жыл бұрын
It was the 101st at Little Rock not the 82nd
@MICHAEL-cg1yl
@MICHAEL-cg1yl 3 жыл бұрын
I WATCHED THIS VIDEO TO SEE IF I HAD A REPRODUCTION CUT DOWN BAYONET OR REPRODUCTION WAR PRODUCTION BAYONET FOR WW2 REENACTMENTS
@dnhman
@dnhman 8 жыл бұрын
101AB at little rock?
@josephhyatt7664
@josephhyatt7664 4 жыл бұрын
dnhman it was the 101 at Little Rock
@alanbud5181
@alanbud5181 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for ruining the Demonstration with your closeups of a bayonet. We know what they look like
@IG10705
@IG10705 Жыл бұрын
Do you realize there's people that dont know? Maybe they're trying to match there's up to the ones in the video? Ever thought about any of that???
@sarge27271
@sarge27271 5 жыл бұрын
PIP very annoying.
@Ndiver81
@Ndiver81 5 жыл бұрын
Picture in picture sucks. Unnecessary distraction.
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