This and last video’s meme has me the urge to animate them

Merry Christmas to you to sailer

Gemmy post 😊

Agreed

Understatement

Agreed, with time he will- there’s nowhere else on KZfaq with this back catalogue of specialized pirate-centered history content. As people search for answers and education over the years, he’ll keep coming up

I just clicked on one of his videos and I didn't look at the sub count. I thought he had atleast 300k subs.

A year later and I'm binge watching his content....

Thats sad

no i am not wrong lmao, the guns aboard the QAR were no heavier than 6 pounders which cant pierce a hull, neither were the guns aboard the royal fortune(which one) any heavier

"Man O' War" just means "Warship", or any vessel equipped to fight other vessels. It is NOT a specific ship type. Merchants were seldom given sufficient resources to fight back pirates. Their crews were typically small, and their armament was usually of the same quality as pirates. Their best chance to beat back pirates was to fight from closed quarters, which I describe in my video on boarding combat.

If you want to take a trip to see well preserved brig .. take a look at USS Niagara. And Brigantine was the one called Eye of the wind i believe. Red sails, for-and-aft main sail with gallants. And theres couple more.

Hola paisano, como le va!

Book about golden age of piracy?

@@drake3116 yes

@@silverkenji cool! I Hope you Finish it and send it over great lake as soon as possible ;) 👍

@@drake3116 thank you

I came here for this comment. Great video too, I love this channel. Sea of Thieves got me back into pirate stuff. I also occasionally listen to Captain Dan and the Scurvy Crew :)

indeed, and btw quite fitting to the topic too :)

i've seen them mentioned in nonfiction litrature but i've not encountered any specific examples of pinnaces being used in the west indies so i cant say, they seem to have been used more in europe

Pinnaces were not used as pirate ships for a simple reason. They were post ships, convoy ships, Messengers. I dont recall any report about pinnace being captured by pirates, lost or used as p.ship. i can be wrong, but i really dont recall any information suporting this idea. And Pinnaces are very interesting ships from dutch history with a uninteresting history of usage and combat. Sometimes, if p.captain got lucky, he might get his hands on Cromster. That was also small ship, race-galleon build hull and sprit-sail rigging or there Is mentioned a Cromster with full ship-rig in Bahama Banks Area history from golden age of piracy. But those sources are So rare that i wouldnt bet on them. :/ But might be true. In US museum there Is a Guy who Worked as a diver. And they saw some physical evidence (not only charts and mentions in documents) that looked like cromsters fully ship-rigged. But those excavations are still being processed.

Im not sure

I would think actual penetration was rare, dependent on the type of wood used and its thickness. The thicker the planks, or even double-planked, the stronger, but also heavier. You could expect a round shot fired from a larger cannon to at least fracture the planks, and water pressure below the waterline would mean a serious leak. From what I've read, the most common tactic, by either military or pirate vessel, was to concentrate fire on the rigging and the decks, using chain shot and small shot, like a shotgun vs. a rifle. You want to disable your opponent's crew as quickly as possible, saving casualties when boarding. Obviously, if the ship's dismasted, even partially, its ability to maneuver or escape is severely compromised. Even military vessels would rather capture an opponent's ship than sink it. British naval captains/crews who captured an enemy ship would receive a bonus for bringing it in. Look how many ships mentioned in these videos started out belonging to one country and ended up belonging to another, Lighter/smaller vessels would be vulnerable to hull penetration from a larger antagonist. If you had a sloop, you weren't going to slug it out with a frigate. Naval combat tactics changed as technology changed. Nothing different from today, really.

I only cover european colonial sea rovers between 1630-1730 on this channel but I might cover the Barbary states on my secondary channel which covers broader European naval history

@@GoldandGunpowder Good to know, thanks for your reply!

Typically schoomers/yawls

:O

sadly i haven't encountered statistics for either of those

It depends on the age that you are asking about .. ancient, aoe, Middle, aos, aost?

@@drake3116 I was thinking 1600s/1700s AD

@@deansch6089 too complicated answer. I'll keep it easy. 16-17th cent. There officialy were no brigs. Those (by modern terminology) came to existence in early 18th cent. But...there were all kind of sloops, corvettes, flyuts and brigantines. For ex brigantine around 200 tons of displ. would have 3m draft. But...what you put in, how you arm her, what wood and how many planking layers will be used, that all combined might increase or decrease the draft. And sailing qualities ofc.

@@deansch6089 And i found a perfect example of old classic brigantine of 17th cent. Fore-mast square-rigged, main-mast gaff-rigged+single top sq.sail...cca 150tons 40m loa 7m Beam 2.7 draft .... Hope it helps you.

aye

Video game mechanics aside, no ship that size should be trading broadsides with first rates and coming away intact.

yes early 1700s

She's a brig

depends on the size of the individual boat and the usage of the vessel, those that were used for trading could have like maybe 3-6 crewmen whereas a sea roving vessel would require much more since it was usually rowed

anyone that watches every gold and gunpowder youtube video on loop without adblocker does

@@GoldandGunpowder Indeed.

@@GoldandGunpowder and by downloading them

IIRC schooners didn't use any square sails, and i'm not sure how often they were used with oars

@@GoldandGunpowder Ah, thanks. I also wonder, how big was a schooner? Were they about the same length as double-shallops, or closer in size to a sloop?

all ships varied in size

@@GoldandGunpowder With that in mind, is there any range that you would estimate for the length of the average sailing vessel?

10-20 m

aye you boutta get ganked by a boucanier

@@GoldandGunpowder hahah

thank you

yeah i'll cover it eventually fairly interesting vessel

@@GoldandGunpowder thx

@@GoldandGunpowder I feel it's a really under appreciated vessel since it has a unique layout that makes it stand out.

No, according to my sources(listed in the video description), it is as I said in the video.

@@GoldandGunpowder I left out a part of what I was gonna say, sorry about that, but to elaborate on what i was gonna say two masted square rigged brigs had a fore mast and a main mast the main mast would be located behind the fore mast and would be taller and have larger sails on it and would typically carry the main sail, smaller two masted boats would have a the main mast in the front as it was the larger mast and carried the main sail, and a mizzenmast in the back carrying a gaff sail or lateen style sail if you looking at the pirate era, I was mainly speaking of square riggers sorry I left that out lol

@@GoldandGunpowder so generally which mast was the main mast would depend upon how it’s rigged,which mast is taller,carry’s the most sail area,and if it carry’s the main sail. But I’m being picky sorry also I’d love to say how much I like your content I’ve studied naval history mainly the 17th, 18th, and the early 19th century’s for about 12 years now I’ve spoken with historians and professors alike, So I know there’s lots of different sources the say different things and the hours it takes to get all the info together to do a video like this, but cheers and happy holidays to you sir.

Yes but he used confusing pictures to describe it. And mixed more than one Era in one topic without specifying it. Hence the misunderstanding.

they do indeed still exist! brigs like the tres hombres operate as shipping vessels to this day. the phoenix and niagara are two more extant examples, though both are replicas of ships dating far later than the golden age of sea roving.

Didn't Blackbeard use a Galion for a while?

like i said in the video, some sloops were bigger than some brigantines - the difference lies purely in the rigging

@@phredphlintstone6455 Not technically a galleon, though the Queen Anne's Revenge was indeed a large ship. A galleon is a particular design associated with Spain, with IIRC high stern and sometimes bow "castles". Blackbeard's flagship was a ship, originally English and then captured by the French and used as a slaver, but said by one witness to be built in a Dutch style (a Fluyt?). The QAR was definitely big though, comparable in size to a navy frigate. A handful of other pirates reportedly commanded similarly sized vessels, including Henry Every, William Kidd, Sam Bellamy, Bartholomew Roberts, Olivier Levasseur, and possibly Benjamin Hornigold. Roberts' Royal Fortune appears to have been the most powerful, with 52 guns, as per Wikipedia (the QAR had 40, though the size of the guns also matters- a ship with 20 twelve pounders would be packing the same punch as a ship with 40 six pounders).

I saw a brig at one of the few harbours near my home

And the mainmast on brigs, brigantines, Snows and schooners Is actually is the aft one. Not the front one.

Brigantine and Corvette are two different ships. Corvette Is three masted and very closely related to the british sloop-of-war.

And there are classes like brig-sloop, sloop-of-war, brig, brigantine and so on, which are different from each other. Its a bit confusing puting them all together. However Its a very good and nice video. Your sources could ve better, but the way you present it .... You could sell shoes to a legless guy.... Very captivating and beatyful pronounciation. Thank you!

And sometimes u use pronounces and terms from different eras. While those terms has changed their meaning as the time went on.

Source: british Royal navy museum. For start

Most of the pirate articles are shite, unreliable, or spread blatant, uncited lies, like Blackbeard being the Magistrate of New Providence or the flag with crossed swords being used by actual pirates. Aside from that, Wikipedia lacks nuance and it usually doesn't respect the context of different time periods

trolled

assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Jackdaw "The Jackdaw was a brig captained by the pirate-turned-Assassin Edward Kenway, which he obtained with the help of Adéwalé, during the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean."

Jackdaw: static.wikia.nocookie.net/assassinscreed/images/a/a5/AC_Twelve_Trials_Black_Flag_Q2_Jackdaw.png/revision/latest?cb=20220802134241 English brig: cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/012/698/large/AC4BF_Brig_s03_Greyson.jpg?1400185426 Frigate: i.ytimg.com/vi/it9jQ44kSCU/maxresdefault.jpg

​@@GoldandGunpowder okay i just opened the game and attacked a brig to compare because fandom isnt worth shit as a source for anything and yeah they're exactly the same whoops thats egg on my face