I have high respect for all SF unit in the world but For maritime operation it's always Navy SEAL, Land & overall operation it's SAS & Overall average operation it's Spetsnaz.

Great information great team player 💯

Do a video on the difference between an 11B and a 19D

SEAL TEAMS, other than SEAL TEAM 6, are Tier 2 units. The Royal Navy's special forces unit, the Special Boat Service, is a Tier 1 unit.@@kausiksouravdas8644

The SAS is the British Army's special forces unit which carries out land-based operations. As far maritime operations are concerned the UK equivalent of SEAL Team 6 is the Royal Navy's special forces unit the Special Boat Service (SBS). Not clear why you are including a reference to Spetnaz...

Nah, the title is correct because even though the SBS was founded in 1940 it wasn't counter terrorism or considered tier 1 until much later. And you seem to forget that in 1942 the US military formed the scouts and raiders which became the navy UDTs and later the Seals. The SAS had limited involvement in Vietnam but Navy seals saw combat in vietnam. In the 50's during the korean war the "Frog men" were called upon. In 1975 the SBS developed Britain’s maritime counterterrorism capability to deal with incidents aboard ships, on oil platforms in the North Sea, or in port installations. And yes, Seal team 6 was formed in 1980. JSOC created the tier system for the US military but it was adopted world wide.

so literally by your own admission the sbs counter terror ability was developed in 75, 5 years before team6 😂

@@mrhrobinsonthe ‘tier’ system hasn’t been adopted worldwide. Certainly not by the UK. The SBS were considered the equivalent of the SAS from the start and were pioneering special forces; you can’t disparage the quality of a unit by claiming they weren’t labeled in a manner that didn’t exist at the time, especially as that label is being applied from a third party. Counter-terrorism isn’t the primary role either, although it’s probably the one they get tasked with most frequently these days.

That isn't even a question, the are cross compatible in nearly every aspect. So the answer is yes they do compare.

are you 100% sure you are not mixing seal team 6 and delta force which was 1980 AND is an almost exact replica of SF "selection" from the UK? As you clearly have never served in the military everyone reading your comments WILL assume you are blowing smoke up the arses (asses) of US servicemen, Where us ex squadies ( I'll use this term for our U.S. cousins) know what we are BOTH ALL about. Pull your head in we on the same side.

During the Falkands didn't they tie the laces together of Argentine troops boots, like thats just meming on them, creeping in, grabbing intel and making sure they can't even pull their boots on in the morning

@@richardhobbs7360 What a load of bollocks

@@jonb3311 You're right, it was a few notes telling them to clear up their camp Even worse as that means they walked in their, realised it was a mess, manouvered around the mess and then still decided to leave a note telling them to clean up. Treating them like a mother would her kids

😂😂😂😂😂

Where’s this info located

Back in my day a call for volunteers for SF and ‘special duties’ (now done by the SRR were periodically and officially posted on unit notice boards (“Part One Orders). No commanding officer had the right to block an application.

@@bob_the_bomb4508 thanks for clarifying, totally my mistake on that bit!

@@guycullum3927your correct - you need to be category Forward everywhere to apply

This is somewhat true, as the Reserve elements of the SAS, the SAS(R) (21 & 23 SAS) will take those that meet the criteria off civie street. Sort of. And whilst they are Reservists, make no mistake, they are trained to the same standard. I made an application to the Army Reserve (ultimately I was medically unfit due to historic knee injury), and on one of the drill nights I spent with the detachment, an SAS recruiter (read: until shortly before that night, a decorated serving SAS Officer you would recognise if you had any interest in the Armed Forces) visited for an acquaint evening about the SAS(R). This is in short how he described the SAS(R); if suitable, you will be sponsored as a Civilian by the UKSF to undergo your full Reservist training with the Army Reserve at your chosen Detachment. Once passed, you will undertake "time at Regiment" before moving on to SAS(R) training. This mirrors UKSF selection in every way. So you will undergo all the same training and exercises that SAS and SBS hopefuls go through together on the "Hills" course. It is so demanding that you will be expected to give up your current job and be within commuting distance of Hereford. Whilst you are technically a "Reservist", there is nothing part-time about it. In fact at the beginning of your UKSF selection journey, you become what is known as a "Full-Time Reservist" (which he agreed was an enormous contradiction). If you successfully pass the "Test Week", the prospective SAS and SBS Regulars who remain will split here to do their specialised training. For the SBS I have no idea. For the SAS it is the "Jungle" & "Jump" courses, the former of which I believe takes place in Brunei, if my memory serves me correctly. Following successful completion of this, as well as MANY other exercises, tests, etc that I have overlooked, you will become a badged SAS(R) Trooper with either 21 or 23 SAS. Still here, this is a full time role. You are a Reservist only in name. In order to operate at the standards expected of the SAS, the time and effort you must commit is just the same as those in the Regulars. If you meet the standards expected of you, you will deploy with the Regular element of the SAS generally in a support role. After a period of (I think it was) 12 months, and with the support of a senior Officer, you may make an application to transfer to the Regular element of the Regiment; 22 SAS. Whilst you do not go straight from Civie street to SAS Trooper, the journey is significantly shorter and more direct than the traditional route through the Regulars, which will take several years minimum. I was told it is generally considered an 24+ month start to finish course, though exceptional (and extremely rare) applicants have gone from Civilian to badged Regular SAS Trooper in as little as 18 months. Though, as this guy repeatedly stressed; this is not for everyone. UKSF selection has something like a 98% failure rate for a reason. And he described the fitness you'd need to achieve in order to make it to the end of the journey as "Olympic level Soldiering". He also said that some of the best SAS Troopers the Regiment had seen started as Reservists, for instance Chris Ryan of Bravo Two Zero fame took the journey I have detailed above to become a Regular SAS Trooper.

My grandad was in the Royal Marines and his platoon were the first to do the jungle training. He couldn’t tell me much when he was alive as it was all under the official secrets act. It was only when he was fighting cancer for the second time he ever let slip even the smallest thing about his time in service that was due to coming round from anaesthesia. Wish I could have learned more from him he was always secretive about his time in the Royal Marines and always switched topic or conversation when anyone asked him. All I know is he used to be stationed on mount batons ship for 6 months and then transferred to Singapore I think he said. He passed away last year so unfortunately the secrets he had passed with him. It’s good to know more about the training these soldiers go through to defend the civilian population. I salute and thank every single one of you past present and future.

And Formed in the 1940s V 1980s.........

Damn bro I never knew that

I love your reply it made my day.

I'd go more nuanced than that. The SBS have more tea bags in their ration packs than their US equivalents.

Dont know if you should leak secret information..

Correction. SEAL are second to none. The SAS and SBS just happen to be “none” 😂

@@Sintakhra you know there's not a seal team member that would agree with that statement

@@scotsman9755 They would, he's agreeing with you None=1st Second to none= 2nd None= SAS/SBS 2nd to none= SEAL

@@richardhobbs7360 aww I get it silly me 😂

​@Sintakhra good reference 😂

You might like to look up the history of the Lovat Scouts from the First World War. There is a direct lineage to David Stirling.

Wasn't Churchill's mother from the US.?

Much of the allied R&D and underwater actions was pioneered by Office of Strategic Services and later adopted by US Navy UDT divers. Italian underwater SF was the real pioneer and British learned the hard way from them. SBS was more of a surface operating unit. Diving ops in the leadup to D Day were done by several units of divers inc COPP operating out of mini submarines, Landing Craft Obstruction Clearance Units and USN UDT. Whether demolition divers, beach recon divers and advanced position signalling divers count as special forces, they all count as exceptional and neccessary for the mission.

62 Commando was perhaps the original British marine special forces unit. They were the direct action arm of SOE and acted outside of normal military channels. Commanded by Gus March-Phillipps, the unit included operators such as Anders Larson who served in SAS and SBS. Geoffrey Appleyard who took over the unit was so highly decorated, the King said " not you again".

@@michaelw2288 No.8 Commando did NOT spawn the SAS. They were different units with different philosophies, different aims.and different origins. The SAS was created by Scots Guards officer David Stirling in the North African desert in 1941. The initial aim was to have small groups raiding behind enemy lines at night (in groups of multiples of 4 men - roups might number 8, 12, 16 or 20 men), destroying Luftwaffe fighter planes at their airfields, and escape into the darkness. The idea was to avoid detection at all costs.

Subsequently, though, the maritime operations became the responsibility of the Royal Navy. Today's SBS is an RN special forces unit.

just remember the cockle shell heros,they were the first..

There’s a pub in poole Dorset called the “cockle shell heroes” they are based in poole Dorset and Poole harbour is famous for cockleshells etc. hence the nickname.

It was on today, great film!

They were not SBS. They were Royal Marine Boom Patrol Detachment. The original SBS members came from the Army.

There is a lot of co-operation between US and UK special forces, and a lot of respect between them. It's just people looking to stir up drama for views and attention who do stuff like this. And every comment people make on the video raises it's profile. It doesn't matter if they are positive or negative.

To be fair comparing is a good thing if its done right. If we do compare say SBS and Seal Team 6 and the SAS is lacking in something I would rather an allie found it than an enemy. Admitidley there are loads of people who would do something just to say "see we are better" and thats on both sides of the argument. But the intelligent among us should see it as a learning aspect and improvment and not use it to belittle each other.

@@davidthompson9368 The issue is that the title implies that the SAS is a copy of Seal Team 6, while both the SAS and SBS predate all the US special forces. And the uploader likely wanted to piss people off on purpose because the more comments and views he gets, the better his channel does. The KZfaq algorithm only cares about attention. It doesn't matter if it's positive or negative.

Sick of all this shit constantly.are we not allies.

@@kevinhaig2963 If the US and UK are not allies, then there has never been such a thing in all of human history.

You guys find everything offensive

Exactly. They're all good, only real difference is their countries foreign policy requirements for them dictating what they actually train for. They all train to insane levels of effectiveness for the job they're tasked with.

The main and major difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2 is the focus on hostage rescue and counter-terrorism that Tier 1 SOF specializes in. They therefore are clearly better at these capabilities and there are plenty of stories where Rangers and Green Berets lives were saved by Delta choosing the mission over them because of Delta and DEVGRU main roles.

​@@vdotmeyeah they are all badass and they all deserve respect for the sacrifices they make it's only loyalty to your country that makes people shout and scream about who's the best if you ask most guys who actually served in these units most would tell you the same they all have respect for each other as they know what it takes to get into a special forces unit

SAS & DELTA. SBS & ST6 are SMU’S Rangers/Seals,/green berets SF/SOF

@@m4a1_delta66 Yes exactly 👍🏻

That's in the video, dude.

The latter

Without a shadow of a doubt

@@carwyngriffiths Maybe the Americans will be good enough, one day.

By Strength and Guile

The motto changed from "not by strength, by guile" to "by strength and guile"

@@LiveLong88 Only amended in 2003. A mistake, IMHO..

that's what I thought, so I was right

@@memomomomomo185 when?

I think what you are trying to touch on is most noticeable in the gallows humour brits have. It's not just that though, it runs way deeper. I also think it's why we don't have riots like they do in France on a regular basis because things need to be real dire before your average Brit gets activated, collectivises and reacts.

Y’all got fucked up teeth and goofy outfits. That’s the difference

Thumbs up for a Gurkha video, they are seriously badass and we have nothing but respect and admiration for them in the UK.

"The SBS draw their recruits from the Royal Marines." - the selection that SBS candidates go through is a joint program attended by 22 SAS candidates. This is now called UKSF (United Kingdom Special Forces) selection. This selection is open to ALL 3 services; Royal Navy, British Army and RAF.

There was uproar from MP's about how brutal the selection process is. The reply from the military was "It's meant to be".

You’re welcome brother

Navy Seals are almost unique in bypassing normal infantry basic training. Their military indoctrination is exclusively very small unit raids and patrols with a policy of disengagdment from heavier forces ie hit and run. Assigning SEALS the mission to take and HOLD the airfield in Panama showed the limits of SEAL capability. They never hold ground and were ill equipped for this classic Ranger or Marine operation.

Modern special forces that are still in existence. The first special forces were most likely used in antiquity. Like the Greeks in the legendary trojan horse .

Popski's Private Army

Brandenburg units were the first as a strategic SF unit built to shape the battlefield. They were multilingual, operated in enemy uniforms and outside all normal rules of war. LRDP were a recon unit mostly watching the coast road to estimate enemy force movements. Within British forces, 62 Commando were probably the first SF unit.

@@michaelw2288 No the LRDG done raids on Italian forts such as the first raid on Murzuk and plenty of other raids like the Barce mission. The did a lot of road watch which supplied GHQ with a wealth of Intel.

No, Devgru can also

You're full of shit 😂

my d ad was a lovat scout in the second world war..

David Stirling and Shimi Fraser (Lord Lovat) were cousins and as children spent a lot of time together during school holidays etc. They both had that as a common bond that probably led to a similar attitude about the military. Shimi became The Lord of Lovat before WW2 inheriting the title from his Grand Father ( his father having been The Master of Lovat). It was Shimi who was the famous Commando leader. 1st as a Commando "field craft" instructor at the Commando training Dapot at Achnacarry. Then as CO of 4 Commando and then as Brigadier of The First Special Service Brigade ( No's 3, 4, 6 Army Commando and 45 Royal Marine Commando. Also French Marines from 10 I/A Commando which were absorbed into 4 Commando). David Stirling ( not wishing to be out done by his cousin) went on to create The Special Air Service originally formed from elements of No's 7 and 8 Commando who had been stationed in the Middle East/ North African command. Initially a maverick outfit they depended heavily on The Long Range Desert Group for transportation and ordnance whilst they proved their worth in the desert campaign .

@@OzzieDeWitt Thank you for the extra detail.

@@hughturner3058 As you probably well know there are some really good books on The Commando from the 2nd World War. Their formation and their ethos. One really good book that I can highly recommend is Lord Lovat's memoir "March Past" which details his life from childhood onward. It really gives exceptional insight into how he thought about things, especially military ethos and how he became one of the more influential contributors to the whole Commando thing. My own interest in this field stems from the fact that my father served in F Troop, 4 Commando and wanting to know what made these guys tick. If you get the chance, read Lovat's book. It's well worth it.

was looking for this comment, thanks, no need to watch video now. :)

Source?

It really isn’t about the boats Sherlock!

@@robertaskew3677 Now tell me something I didn't know genius.

It is called "British Humour!" Not something most yanks get. But, never mind. We still like you..most of the time!@@robertaskew3677

More apt would RM Commandos vs USMC MARSOC Raiders

@@TheCerebralDude Still, I haven't seen a video on the comparison between the USs SOF naval force vs the UKs SOF capable naval force.

SBS are a step up fromSAS

@@davespice5648 no they are not. If your in the British navy you can only join the SBS. If you come from any regiment in the British Army you can choose to be in the SAS or SBS or even the pathfinder regiment but all go through the same training together. That’s the only difference. If your stepping up from any of these you will probably be in MI6

@@AgentLynch616 having had the fortune to work (and play!) with them in the past I know they “selected” only from the Royal marine commandos. Maybe they’ve changed entry parameters now. Following selection with SAS candidates (who get their beret following completion of selection) SBS candidates then have to do further selection processes before they pass into the SBS. As I say maybe things have changed since 2000 / 2006 but at that time I didn’t meet anyone from outside The Royal Marines.

@@davespice5648 my bad. I said Navy. Your correct in SBS being selected from RMC. I believe those extra selection processes that SBS have to do are centred around water.

no longer a requirement to be a rmc for sbs selection, any branch of the uk military can apply for selection and if passed go onto the sas/sbs regardless of their original unit

So very true, I have friends that were SEAL’s, MARSOC, Force Recon as well as PJ’s. A SEAL buddy of mine has never been afraid to call PJ’s the baddest of all. He has always talked up the PJ’s and their highly advanced, specialized training. He’s also heaped praise on AF CCT’s and he’s the most humble SOF veteran I’ve ever met, a true gem of a human being.

What about ccts?

“in-bed”? 😂

Whereas some of the RAF have been known to work weekends :)

​@teddy.d174 all those SOF units are unique. I just like to know their task. Each unit needs one another.. if you look at it they are hand and hand.

They do.

There was always an American or two knocking around whenever I was stationed in Poole. One American is always sent as a Cadet to Royal Military Academy Sandhurst each year too.

SBS Operators when around late 30's and senior enlisted rank of Sgt or Colour Sgt, tend to get sent on short overseas training to other countries SF at very short notice (Holiday leave cancelled), son in law of friend in past year had this happen few times. Early 2023 sent to Cyprus week before Sudan evucation, then Arizona for Parachute Jumps, Poland, Malta (Oct 2023), Norway, last three weeks sent to Netherlands, last two weeks in Poland. The unit also send their kids on holidays, his daughter got sent with aload of other operatives kids to skiing holiday in France in late Jan.

The training program for such courses was the ‘greatest work of fiction since vows of fidelity were included in the French marriage ceremony’*. You kept your bergan packed at all times, because you never knew when you’d be off. Regardless of what it said on the program. * Capt E Blackadder

"Something that is never mentioned in these comparison videos. In order to become a member of the SBS, you must first be a Royal Marine Commando for at least 3 years. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but to become a Royal Marine you must endure one of the toughest recruitment programs in the world." - yeah, wrong. I need only mention that the SBS takes candidates from all 3 services, just as the SAS does. Remember that both candidates attend the same selection process 'UKSF selection'

I think the same can be said for Britain in regards to punching above its weight? it’s quite rare Britain has EVER had a numerical advantage in its well documented and world renowned military history. A history our cousins in Australia will know very well since it was mainly an indigenous population until the British settled there :)

The Royal Marines are not infantry, they are Commandos

Do your homework, seal teams were already established and didn't get trained from the UKSF, they were already doing ops during vietnam

Yeah and sucked ,, know your facts before replying, one of your sf officers came to train with British sf and said why ain't we doing it like that . Went back and incorporated our training into us sf ,, dumb Americans getting it wrong again 🙄

Delta Force was actually based on the SAS. Read about US Colonel Charles Beckwith. He was seconded to the SAS in the early 60s.

​@@davidlauder-qi5zvDidn't Lofty Wiseman help set up Delta ?

Yes, I read Charlie Beckwith's book when in university. What struck me the most was how disgusted he was when he first went into the messy SAS barracks at Hereford. Thanks for the additional info though.It's great to see that people still read books. Good for you!@@davidlauder-qi5zv

Shut up Brit