British Airways BOMBSHELL Announcement | How IT Affects YOU!

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My Grey Gap Year

My Grey Gap Year

Күн бұрын

In this video, we discuss the recent bombshell announcement made by British Airways about changes to their Executive Club loyalty program. On Monday 5th February 2024, BA announced they are changing the year start and end dates to the Executive Club membership year.
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It might sound like I’m being overly dramatic but this membership year date change is big news to every member of the British Airways Executive Club. So, in this video I’ll explain what’s changing and how it affects you, and I’ll give a couple of examples, because it will effect members with different year end months differently.
There is, however, one big announcement that is bad for everyone in exactly the same way, and I’ll break the bad news to you as gently as possible.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Introduction
0:48 The Old Way
1:55 What’s Changing?
2:45 Why Change Things?
3:26 How it Will Work
10:06 Conclusion
11:50 My Plan for Me!
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Thank you for watching and joining me on My Grey Gap Year
Phil
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@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
*BA MAKES A CLARIFICATION: * British Airways have updated the FAQs section of the Executive Club Website, to clarify the exact changes based on your year end month. As always, if you have a question about the changes that British Airways have made to the membership year end and how these changes will affect you then please fee free to leave a comment, and if I can't get an answer then I'll find someone who does. www.britishairways.com/content/executive-club/faqs/tier-point-collection-changes Thanks Phil ### *UPDATE ON NEW BRITISH AIRWARYS TIER POINT COLLECTION PERIODS: “THE TRANSITION PERIOD”* I want to make a clarification about what I describe as “Part 3: The transition Period.” My understanding of this was that it wasn’t a *“live collection period”* and was only going to be used to assess status on 1st April 2025 and I was mistaken. Although, I think everything I say in the video still hold true (he says having recently watched the video to check), this clarification is important. On the 1st April 2024 the transition period begins and this is running “in parallel” to your current year but this is a “live collection year”. Essentially this is the new rules being applied to everyone from the 1st April. If you have a collection year in progress that still stands, but the new rules essentially come in from the 1st April 2024. Let me give you an example: I currently have 60 tier points. From the 1st April to the 8th July I earn an additional 500 tier points (a la my example in the video). On the 8th July I will have 560 tier points but on the following day I will have 500. This is the incredibly poorly worded “tier point adjustment”. I will be Gold until 31st August due to my grace period and then I will soft land to silver. If I then earn 1000 tier points I will immediately get back my Gold Status, I will not have to wait until 1st April 2025. I will have status from when I earn it in this period until the 30th April 2026, then I will soft land to Silver until 30th April 2027. I have called the British Airways customer support line and the call was answered within two minutes of holding and my queries were answered with confidence and professionalism, so I have confidence in this comment that I’m making. I said I was going to let things sit for a week and decide what I was going to do, well *currently I am firmly in favour of earning 1500 tier points to achieve Gold from 1st April* and will aim to complete that before my status runs out on 31st August this year. I’ll maker a video about my research and the trips that I take so do subscribe and click the bell if you’d like to get notifications on these upcoming videos. Thank you for watching and joining me on My Grey Gap Year, Phil
@stevecraven3502
@stevecraven3502 5 ай бұрын
Great info Phil. easy to follow. I'm glad you chose August as your example as thats my year end.😁
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind comment Steve, glad it was helpful.
@Alex-om1be
@Alex-om1be 5 ай бұрын
Useful video, thanks
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment, much appreciated.
@jamespaul9929
@jamespaul9929 5 ай бұрын
Great video Phil-I think that helped? I believe head for points do a good breakdown on this and each month-so am I right in thinking you can’t rely on your whole years soft landing from gold to silver but this will be calculated around the new April to April format and how many TP’s you’ve earned?
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I actually found the first Head for Points article unhelpful which is very unusual, which is why I wanted to make this video. My issue (and perhaps yours) is what happens to you once you complete your current year. You are correct in the shortened soft landing period, due to the shortened tier point collection "period", this shortened "period" (which for me is July to 31st March) is treated like an old "year" no matter how short it might be.
@ukdavepianoman
@ukdavepianoman 5 ай бұрын
Great video. As you say some "Gold" seekers want to collect early in their membership year to maximise duration of benefits. When everyone has moved to April-Mar, I wonder if BA/OneWorld will push up prices around April to e.g. June knowing this? Although I imagine pricing is based on lots of other factors. My membership year is Oct, so I'm just going to push on for Gold by around May which means I'll be Gold until Nov 2025 (I think) - I can cope with soft landing to Silver for a reduced period. Then I'll decide what to do after that.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, I think one of the biggest factors with is seasonal demand, so July and August are expensive months because there is high demand and the airlines can't magic up a couple of extra aircraft (or pilots or cabin crew) and so prices go up. Same with Christmas, same with Easter. I think April could become very expensive especially if it coincides with Easter. Good luck with your run, I wish you all the best, Phil
@goldenkoi23
@goldenkoi23 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this though I’ve still not got 100% understanding as my year ends 8 May. Any chance you could please make a video explaining every month as my wife is 😊Jan and my kids April.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, British Airways updated their FAQs website and I've made a call the BA to qualify exactly what's going on, so I think I have this now (but do your own research, etc....). If I have the time to make that video it will be released on Wednesday 28th February, a week today. In the meantime, you are going to be one of the beneficiaries of the rule change, as you will all be synced in a year or so. For you in May, you are currently in Part 1: The current year, which ends on 8th May. Any status you earn in this period will expire on 30th June 2025. Any soft landing will expire on 30th April 2026. Part 2: The shortened year will commence on 9th May and end on 31st March 2025. Any status you earn in this "period" will last until 30th May 2026. Part 3: The Transition Year: This is an actual collection year running in parallel to everything else. This runs from the 1st April 2024 to 31st March 2025. For some reason British Airways called this a "tier point correction", but this is an actual tier point membership year. Any tier points you earn in this period immediately triggers status, so if you are blue on 1st April (and this is everyone) and then earn 1,500 tier points in April 2024 you will immediately be Gold for this membership year (until 31st March 2025) and Gold for the next membership year (31st March 2026) and for the new grace period which lasts until 30th April 2026. So any status earned in Part 3: The transition period, lasts until 30th April 2026. Hope this clear it up, I imagine that is exactly what I'll be saying on the video anyway😊 , but if you have a follow up question, please let me know. Thanks Phil
@goldenkoi23
@goldenkoi23 5 ай бұрын
@@mygreygapyear much appreciated 👍
@b8you
@b8you 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the video, do you think BA change the tier points collection base on spending just like the Avios collection?
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind comments and question, I don't think they will change tier point collection based on spend. Avios are the "currency" of the scheme, you earn them based on spend and then spend them on flights/products. Tier points have no "value" beyond status. If you assign tier points based on revenue then, as flights increase in cost, it becomes easier to get status. Until, BA have no choice but to increase the status thresholds or devalue tier points (more money per tier point). So I don't see it happening, I think it will always be sector tier points and good for you if you find a "hack". I also don't see how BA can assign tier points based on Air Maroc spend, so it would need to be an Alliance Wide change? Thanks Phil
@hendrikdevries9725
@hendrikdevries9725 5 ай бұрын
With my Abu Dhabi run on the 31st March , and my executive club year ending 8th August, I think I'll set up a new membership in March to add half a year to my membership
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, Creating a new account is certainly an option, but would moving your Abu Dhabi run back into April (if possible without penalty) be better? I think new members joining after the 31st March 2024 automatically get enrolled into the new tier point collection dates. Good luck with your run, Phil
@foltan1
@foltan1 5 ай бұрын
For most of us it’s a great thing - I can do a good points run before my expiration in June and it’ll then count towards my requalification for next cycle too! I’m just jealous of people that have until later in the year to do better points runs for double-taking!
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, I think for many people it will be either a neutral or positive time in the transition, unfortunately I was planning to run in July but this will give me a 4 month shortened Gold period 😞
@foltan1
@foltan1 5 ай бұрын
@@mygreygapyear Yes definitely if you had fixed plans that fall at the wrong time, and you can't do anything before then, it's going to be unhelpful for you, I sympathise.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
@@foltan1 Thanks, there are worse things in life I guess, these are first world problems
@pb456-7
@pb456-7 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. At 8:08 you said that your status will be reassessed on 1st April 2025, based on TP earnt in the transition period - but reading the HfP article table doesn’t this reassessment take place on 9th July 2024? So the 500 you earnt before get recredited to your current year then. Now for the 1000 TP earnt between 9 July and 31 March 2025, the shortened collection period - I don’t think you would have to wait for 1 April 2025 to regain gold, it would be as soon as you hit tier point 1000 (having already had 500 put in the bank on 9 July?), unless of course tier point 1000 is earnt on 31 March. So you get gold back as soon as you reach the 1000 new TP and then for all of the next April 25 to March 26 TP year. Does that make sense or have I missed something? This is the July member end quote from HfP: “A Tier Point Adjustment will be made at the start of your shortened collection period (on 9th July 2024), re-crediting any tier points you earned from 1st April 2024 - 8th July 2024 Any status earned or renewed during this period will be valid until 30th April 2026”
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment, that is a lot to take in and it does sound like you're correct. I read the first head for points article on Monday and I've read the two BA web pages (although I can only get my hands on the FAQ now) but I have deliberately not read/watched other content creators content because I didn't want to just parrot back or plagiarise their work. I'm going to call BA and get a clarification and I'll post it here when I have. Thank you for taking the time to message me, it is much appreciated. Phil
@user-og3pb3kr2h
@user-og3pb3kr2h 5 ай бұрын
Calculations and adjustment periods are understandably centred around the award of Tier Points but I have seen no mention of the the other status qualifier of number of BA flights in the period eg 4 for Silver. With the potential of shorter earning periods to 31/3/25 is a similar adjustment made to capture the number of flights when status is adjusted at 31/3/25.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, I do remember something about qualifying flights in the original press release but the I can't seem to find it now. I also can't see anything in the FAQs but I have to assume that the rule is the same, two for bronze and four for silver and gold and this will be calculated like tier points in "current year", "shortened "period" and "transition period"
@markbrown4764
@markbrown4764 11 күн бұрын
hi Phil, thanks for the video. I'm dyslexic and just hearing numbers and dates turns my head to mush ha, so can i ask, as I can't get through to BA. My usual tier collection year ends september 8th each year. I have been really pushing for my gold tier this year, and i booked the last tier run (London-NY biz rtn) Sept 12. Just realised this overlaps my Tier collection end date. Ive worked so hard this year to get to gold, (currently on 1200 points) it would be a huge kick in the pants to miss it by a few days. So I'm wondering, with the way tier points are all becoming April 2025, will my sept 12 biz class flight get me to gold or will it reset. Thanks for your time Phil. Really enjoying your channel :) Mark
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for your question Mark, without a call to BA your September 12th flight won't count in your current year that ends on the 8th September. I think the thing to do in this situation is to write every flight down in date order with the tier points next to them. Then you can draw two boxes around list of flights (and it will look a bit like a Venn diagram with the two boxes over lapping. Box 1, or flights set 1 will be from 9th September 2023 to the 8th September 2024. This is your current BA membership year. If you can get through then they might agree to include the flights on the 12th into this set. Box 2 will be from 1st April 2024 to 31st March 2025. This is your transitional year. There is still plenty of time to add more flights into this box or membership period. If you want to get in touch via my website's contact form then at mygreygapyear.com/contact/ and list your flights I'll happily tell you where you're at. Thanks Phil
@markbrown4764
@markbrown4764 9 күн бұрын
@@mygreygapyear ah ok, THANK YOU, that made sense! So anything from April 2024.... that's very much doable then, and yes I still have plenty of time, I will just have to wait a little longer for the gold membership. Will check out your website also :)
@macca555
@macca555 5 ай бұрын
Hi Phil, great informative video, my year end is 8th July, I will be Gold by then, so just wondering how long I will be gold for? I would hope to get 1500 TP between July this year and April next year
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind comment, if you're July then you're in the same boat as me and if you were planning to achieve status after July 8th then you are in exactly the situation I'm in. I'm currently Gold with an expiry date of 31st August 2024. So we have some choices to make. 1. Earn 1500TP between 1st April and the 8th July 2024: Gold until 30th April 2026 2. Earn 1500TP between 9th July 2024 and 31st March 2025: Gold until 30th April 2026 3. Wait until April next year and earn 1500TP between 1st April 2025 and 31st March 2026: Gold until 30th April 2027. If we earn some of our tier points before 1st April 2024 then these won't be counted in the "transition period", so earning 1500 tier points between now and 8th July 2024 will give us gold until 31st August 2025. Let me know if you have any other queries, Phil
@macca555
@macca555 5 ай бұрын
@@mygreygapyear Hi Phil, thanks very much for all the information, probably be point 1 or 2 I guess
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
@@macca555 I'm flip flopping, but I want to make a decision within a week.
@red.guevarra
@red.guevarra 5 ай бұрын
We're used to it here in the US, as most (if not all) of our airline's FF schemes follow a standard 01Jan-31Dec tracking period so it's always a mad scramble during the 2 major holidays in Nov and Dec. Poke!!! - Red
@RandomLifeProductions
@RandomLifeProductions 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know if it’s a bombshell, it’s a pain in the backside, however I’m now going to have plan a point run before March.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment, I suppose we should take a glass half full approach and be glad for small mercies, I think a calendar year approach would be worse for those completing status at the end of a year, but early qualifiers like me might find some cheap flights in that Jan/Feb/March period. 😊
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
@@RandomLifeProductions Thank you for your comment, permit me a little artistic license in the title 😊
@RandomLifeProductions
@RandomLifeProductions 5 ай бұрын
@@mygreygapyear of course. So looking at the maths I will need 610 points to qualify for gold in March. Any suggestions for a nice tier point run with a few days offnwork
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
What are your dates exactly? March this year or next?
@KendenParking
@KendenParking 24 күн бұрын
Hi. This is really helpful, thank you. Anyway upto the point I lost the thread. My current year ends on 8th January 2025. I am currently silver. If I travel on holiday in mid March 2025 and accumulate 800 tier points which year or years do they go towards ? Thank you, confused from Kent.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 24 күн бұрын
Hi there, thank you for your question, they will count to your 9th of January to 31st March collection "period" and will leave your account on the 1st April 2025 when your new collection year begins. If you have a follow up question please post it here and I'll do my best to help, Phil
@mjpm2409
@mjpm2409 5 ай бұрын
Forget OneWorld and BA. It's an absolute drag now. Try Star Alliance. Easy to get SIlver or Gold on routes like Aegean Athens - Tirana etc. Cheap and rewarding. Still get the lounge access and good hub airlines.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment, interesting take on this, abandon status with BA and Oneworld all together. Certainly something to think about, Thanks Phil
@markkelly9095
@markkelly9095 Ай бұрын
Wonder about the points with star alliance cause going forward might do star routes cause of my wife chi can fly on plane from Paris but not from London (my yorkie can)
@yvr2002rtw
@yvr2002rtw 5 ай бұрын
If Qantas restricted their First Class lounges in SYD/MEL (and Cathay Pacific did the same to their Pier First Class lounge in HKG) to only passengers actually First Class and OWE members in Economy had to use an "Emerald" lounge instead, would BA Gold still be worth it? or would Silver (Oneworld Sapphire) be enough?
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question, I'm a big believer in "When the facts change my opinion changes" so if First Class lounge access was taken from Gold or Emerald members, or the lounges became more restricted, then I would have to consider if silver was the sweet spot for me, and since silver is probably going to be my long term status level then Silver would almost certainly be enough.
@tyr___5306
@tyr___5306 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’ve been really confused. My date is 8th March. I’m currently Silver so does this mean on 8th March 2025 I will revert to 0 tier points? Does this mean that I basically lose the status and not have it for the next year? It’s pretty unlikely that I will earn enough points in 3 weeks!
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question, if you are Silver today and you earned Silver in the previous year (March 9th 2023 to March 8th 2024) and you earn no further tier points then you'll soft land to Bronze on 8th March 2025 as usual. You'll retain silver for your grace period (I think) until 30th April 2025. You'll then have a very short collection period from the 9th to 31st March and the new collection years will start on 1st April 2025 for everyone. If you're planning to renew then you can either wait until 1st April 2025 and start with the new years or, if you want to renew this year, then just lean into the new membership years with the transition that starts on 1st April 2024. This is a live membership year and any status you earn in from 1st April 2024 to 31st March 2025 will last until 30th April 2026. Thanks Phil
@sin8430
@sin8430 5 ай бұрын
So if examples are correct, my current year end is 8th july. I am expecting to earn 360 points in may and nothing else until after my current membership renews. I am subsequently planning on earning 1200 sometime before christmas. For 2024 i will achieve silver status but from April 2025, this will jump to gold status as the period April 24-Mar 25 i collected over 1500 points? Is this correct view?
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question, according to a conversation I had with British Airways the "transition period" from 1st April 2024 to the 31st March is a live membership year. So if you earn 360 points in May you will be bronze. Those points will stay on your account in July as your "old skool" membership year ends. As you continue to earn tier points in 2024 you will go Gold with your 1200 planned points earning and you will go Gold as soon as you've earned them. You will be Gold for the rest of the transition year, and then for the rest of the next membership year and for the new grace period. So you will be Gold as soon as you've earned your 1,500 tier points from when you earn them to the 30th April 2026. Thanks Phil
@rogerwild1966
@rogerwild1966 5 ай бұрын
I still can't figure out how it affects me. My year has just ended (feb) so 0 tier at the moment with silver held
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, how this affects you depends on what your plans were for this year / next year. You're currently in "Part 1", your normal collection year. Any status you earn in this year (up to the 8th February 2025) will last until March 31st 2026 (your usual/old earning year plus your usual/old grace period). You will then go into a very short "collection period" from the 9th February 2025 until 31st March 2025. Any status you earn in this period will last until 30th April 2026, but it is so short as to render it useless. Part 3: Then on the 1st April 2025 you will be assessed based on your tier point earning from the 1st April 2024 to the 31st March 2025. Any status you earn in this period lasts until the 30th April 2026. If you're not requalifying while you're silver then you just need to plan your next run from April 1st 2025 (Next year) and this status will last until 30th April 2027. If I can be of any further help, please let me know. Phil
@rogerwild1966
@rogerwild1966 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reply. I was planning on using my points this year and going for it in 2025, all be it being a couple of months later than originally planned.
@richardstreet7518
@richardstreet7518 5 ай бұрын
My year end is November..... grrrr...
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment, I think November is on the edge of that "blessing and a curse" period, where you can soft land in November and wait until the new collection year starts in April. I think January and February are going to have such shortened second collection "period" that waiting is the only option.
@AudiS4B7
@AudiS4B7 5 ай бұрын
mine is 8th December cant get any worse
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, this is going to be messy for a couple of years.
@anoyakashi8775
@anoyakashi8775 4 ай бұрын
WHO IS GOING TO FLY BA?
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 4 ай бұрын
Well I do, I've had mostly positive experiences with them. Have you had issues?
@harrisonrichards6536
@harrisonrichards6536 5 ай бұрын
5th February not January FYI
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
I know, I know... I caught it when editing but didn't have time to re-shoot the entire opening segment. I need better notes when filming... #embarrassing
@HaiderAlDelfi
@HaiderAlDelfi 5 ай бұрын
🥰🤤
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment.
@HaiderAlDelfi
@HaiderAlDelfi 5 ай бұрын
@@mygreygapyear You are welcome handsome
@user-og3pb3kr2h
@user-og3pb3kr2h 5 ай бұрын
Monday 5th February announcement Phil. Nice summary. HfP guys must have also burnt the midnight oil over this. 🫣
@user-nx9jf7pu4w
@user-nx9jf7pu4w 5 ай бұрын
HFP and Matts Planet have made his almost understandable...unlike this video.
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
@@user-nx9jf7pu4w Thank you for the feedback, if you have a specific question regarding your own status then I'm happy to have a stab at answering it. All the best, Phil
@mygreygapyear
@mygreygapyear 5 ай бұрын
@user-og3pb3kr2h Thanks for letting me know, I spotted it when I was editing and wasn't able to re-film it (or did I have advance press access?) 😀
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