(Paul Revere) "The British are coming, the British are coming!"

It's worth noting with the missing smoke deflectors, they weren't always fitted to the coronation class. They were a later addition, similar is true with many British engines, they got smoke deflectors in later modifications. (I believe the design theory was build it with out and if the crew complain that the lack of deflectors causes an issue retroactively fit them at that point lol) And in fact, while double checking my facts before posting this, I came across an old black and white photo of Dutches of Buccleuch without the deflectors.

Hopefully one day we see a model of the LNER A1 Peppercorn Tornado. It is a crowd funded stream locomotive. The people who set the trust up for that steam engine, have plans to make mods engines and gave advice to the people making the T-1.

I would like to provide some fill in History: The Princess Coronations were a development of the previous Princess Royal 4-6-2's and featured a more powerful boiler with more tubes, and slightly larger cylinders and valves (Both designs had 4 cylinders). In turn, this led to better steam production and on tap power, though their tractive effort was more or less the same. Originally they were built with streamlining to compete with the LNER A4's, but the Streamlining wasn't that much of a benefit, unlike that of the A4's. These engines were used on the nonstop London to Glasgow expresses, and by the end of WWII, all engines had their streamlining removed and built to the same look of Duchess of Abercorn (streamlining hurts the maintenance and serviceability of engines). 3 of them still survive today, with Duchess of Hamilton being re-built with her streamlining in the Railway Museum in York, and Duchess of Sutherland being a regular steamer on railtours. City of Birmingham however is couped up in the museum of science in Birmingham.

If MTH ever decides to do a last hurrah with their Euro stuff I may have to bite.

I wouldn't worry too much about the smoke deflectors. The non-streamlined Coronation Class had locos with and without smoke deflectors.

Fun Fact about this class, in the 1930s they were atreamlined and they represent the big rival to the famous Gresley A4s like Mallard, with the class leader "Coronation" reaching a speed of 114mph prior to Mallard setting the ultimate official speed record, and they also hold the record for the most powerful steam locomotive ever used in the UK, at 2,511 dbhp with a tractive effort of 40,000 lbf. The later unstreamlined Coronations would earned the nickname of "Duchesses" due to so many, like yours, being named after official Duchess titles On a more personal level as a British enthusiast, even as someone with a stronger loyalty to the LNER on the east coast with their A4s, there is something that makes me admire the duchesses as a design. Where as the A4 is sleek and fast like a blade, the Duchess uses its brute strength even today to absolutely demolish the steepest grades in the country. I would recommend searching for "The Duchess Deliverance" here on youtube, it's a perfect introduction to the class.

10:40 a lot of British O gauge trains use the hook and chain couplers as the actual couplers instead of an unrealistic coupler seen on European HO and OO scale trains. Keep that in mind in case you ever buy Dapol's British O gauge rolling stock. It's a real shame that MTH didn't make the streamlined version of this engine, as one went to the United States for the 1939 World's Fair, 6220 "Coronation" (which was actually Duchess of Hamilton, which survives today)

these 4 cylinder pacific were designed by Sir William A Stanier and were built between 1937-1948 at the London Midland and Scottish railways crewe works.

Duchess of Abercorn has the highest officially recorded power output for any British steam locomotive. This was recorded on a test run coupled to a dynamometer between the loco and the train in February 1939. Duchess of Buccleuch received smoke deflectors in April 1946 and was not painted into BR green until May 1952. The locomotives (4)6230 - (4)6234 were the first batch of Coronations to built without streamlined casings. The number 4 at the start if the running number being added after nationalisation in 1948.

Hi Eric , I'm British and its pronounced " Buk Lew " , just found your channel and love it , thanks

I like to see Lionel try out British Steam Locos. I wrote them a letter on that idea a couple months ago and haven't got a response yet. Cool Locos by the way!

The MTH engines and coaches here in the video are pictured in post 1948 livery. The coaches I believe are non-scale to length representations of BR MK1 stock. The engine without smoke deflectors is in the earlier circa 1950 passenger livery, so I believe its accurate as modelled.

My live steam O-scale engines are ALL British, with one of my LMS Moguls and my LMS Jinty directly imported from the UK. British steam, in my opinion, has its own charm.

As quite a few others have said, don't worry about the smoke deflectors as not all GB steam locos had them. One thing I would try to change is the whistle SFX, it needs to be of a higher pitch. It sounds like MTH used a generic US whistle sound.

Eric, Duchess of Buck-clee-oow ! Not all British locos had smoke deflectors, even in the same class, and they were generally a post war fit.

The commentary voices sound more like Australians than UK

Eric, you could have mentioned the lovely lighting and interiors on the cars. And the outstanding smoke!

Lisa is precious!! She bought that loco and kept it secret from you till Christmas, you are very lucky to have her in your life. BTW, what did you get her for Christmas!?!?!?🙂🤔

Beautiful additions to your collection Eric! I bet that was a real surprise to get the second one from your girlfriend. Enjoy! 😃

Gawd blimey guvna that’s proper English crew talking :)

For The First Time Ever, Eric Siegel Reviews Steam Locomotives Of The English & Celtic Railways (ECR) / Britannia & Ireland Railroad (B. &. I. R. R.) Locomotive, Fuel Tender, Water Tender (Like That Of A Doncaster Gresley Pacific) Gas Turbine, Kerosine Tender (GTMK, Classed As: “GT3”) Driving Trailer, Brake Carriage, Passenger Carriage, Catering Carriage, Restaurant Carriage, Sleeper Carriage, Post Carriage, Luggage Van, Generator Van, Power Carriage

These British Steam Trains are Amazing!😁

That is a classy locomotive good luck finding the other three👍👍

One coronation made its way to the US, class pioneer Coronation was modified to US regulations and came to the US, at the time it was streamlined and ran in LMS Crimson Lake (instead of the BR Brunswick green here), three examples remain of the class, City of Salford, City of Birmingham and the only streamlined example left Duchess of Hamilton

It's so strange to hear Eric talking about British steam locomotives like the Coronation which are pretty famous locomotives there. I follow another British model railroading KZfaqr that specializes in 00 gauge.

Gorgeous engines, Eric. That was a neat surprise to learn Lisa had bought the one off ebay for you!

It was great to see this European engine. I missed getting one. So nice you have this to share with the rest of us. JH

Not all of the Duchess class locomotives had smoke deflectors. When they were initially built for the LMS they had a standard single stack exhaust and no smoke deflectors. After the companies were consolidated and nationalized into British Rail more efficient Kylchap double chimney exhaust systems were fitted, which caused soft smoke to obscure the crew's view. Smoke deflectors then had to be fitted.

Wow! How lucky are you that she was the one! They look great!

problem with the car stock they are all 3rd class rail stock, if i remember correctly 2 1st class, 2 2nd class and 2 3rd class the deflectors on the front were earliest version of aerodynamics

America always had amazing steam locomotives but I think the UK trumps all other countries when it comes to beautiful engines

Beautiful engines, love the PFA sequence on the Duchess of Abercorn.

Seeing how you have 2 Duchesses in British Railways green, think you'll dare to repaint one in LMS red or black?

Jolly good!

Beautiful!! Never seen this one before, love it!

I love how different countries call different types of locomotives different things. Its kind of like how you Americans want to call 2-10-4's a Texas where as we here in canada call those a Selkirk, If I was going to get a layout together, I would have to have a Selkirk on it, I Need a Selkirk, CPR Empress (2816) (The only surviving Non Royal Hudson), 2860 (The royal Hudson that did Excursion service in BC, 2850 (The Royal Hudson that is the nameskae of the class and actually carried the King and Queen), and maybe just maybe CN 6060 (Bullet Nosed Betty) who worked in relief for 2860 whenever she needed service. But part of me says it wouldn't be so great to have all CPR and one CNR in my fleet.

Awesome Eric! You got not only one but TWO MTH Stanier Princess Coronation Class Pacifics! That was so nice that your girlfriend got you one of them as a Christmas gift! It's a shame that this turned out to be the only British locomotive MTH made and that they didn't make an HO/OO version of it, but they did an incredible job on it and its carriages. It looks and sounds like the real thing! MTH did announce they were going to make the Flying Scotsman and other Gresley A1/A3 Pacifics in Premier Line in 2008, but they cancelled them, very bad move, because that would've been a fantastic locomotive that would've sold well. Heck, I would've bought one because I was looking forward to it. Not to mention that they could've made an LNER apple green A3 Flying Scotsman with attachable/detachable American pieces to give you the option to "Americanize" it, but this turned out to be a missed opportunity on their part.

Great video dude! Hope you find all those MTH euro locomotives

Hola buenas noche excelente video te mando un abrazo grande😃👍👍👍

I was just thinking about three rail British locos yesterday and wondering where to pick one up because i do enjoy LNER locos. Good video

love the engines

Such a beautiful engine. I have this exact one. Wish I cad the cars!

One you might try to find, if it's available, the soviet AA - 20.

!!! I’ve been waiting for this review for a while

Excellent british steam engines Eric!!!

Those cheeky-chappie Mary Poppins crew accents are a horrible cringe moment, but the locomotive is lovely.

Happy Holidays to you, Lisa and yours, Eric. Those look and sound amazing and your as luck as I am to have found a Lisa that enjoys your hobby. Best of everything to you, Ron

Nice Steam Engine, Eric very good detail too

Eric you need to get an A4 locomotive like Mallard.

BRIISH TRANE 🧐

British Railways paint schemes. LMS, LNER, Southern, and GWR - the four railways of the 1923 "grouping" - were folded into BR at its creation in 1948. When new, the engines were red.

Im ian ray and I haven't gotten to subscribe to everyone of your train videos of o scale because I love o scale just like you eric

Beautiful model!

They are so nice Absolutely amazing Great video. Looking forward to seeing your next Video. 🚂🚋🚃🚋🚃🚋😎👍

Really wish they could do a flying Scotsman but hornby has the exclusive right to make models of those

Just SPECTACULER !!

Not all the Coronations had smoke deflectors

Honestly wish there were more British steamers available over here in 3 rail AC power. Mostly made do by adapting some of Lionel's Thomas line by replacing the faces with smokebox doors, adding some detail parts, and repainting to make semi-scale British steamers. Also have some of the old Hornby clockwork O gauge engines (really come in handy when the power goes out) and rolling stock. If Lionel made a Flying Scotsman and/or Mallard in semi-scale, I think they'd sell like hotcakes.

Ngl we need more British o scale stuff

Magnificent!

Those coaches look to be BR MK1 stock not LMS. But would be correct (time wise) for the BR green livery on the Locomotives.

You should check out some videos from Britain or these amazing outdoor O Gauge live steam layouts. Really beautiful models.

For the smoke deflector issue, you might be able to cast some out of resin.

As another guy who is passionate about more than one country’s trains - it’s been great and weird to see two Duchesses on your 3 rail layout. I’d love one too. You will also be wanting some all Maroon British Rail ex-LMS MTH coaches (I presume they also did that livery) to mix in with your Crimson and Cream ones. So cool that you have one each with the early and late BR crests. I wonder if MTH did a red version - a Duchess with late BR crest in the red livery is the tops. You can run them all together timeline wise but Double-heading was not a routine thing in England and especially not with Princess Coronations.

You were colonized 😂 In keeping with the highest traditions of meme culture

I got my first British steam train. It might be the Harry Potter set but still British

The redcoats are coming, the redcoats are coming!

The whistle sounds like an N&W hooter

Now, you need to find a K-2. Those are 4-4-0, and incredible. When I think of one, I picture Edward from Thomas & Friends.

So beautiful! Will you get some more British steam engines at some point?

Congratulations

Amazing to see how an American manufacturer would approach the one of these, obviously the market it quite niche and considering there many variations of the Coronation class, It is truly a shame there was no streamline variant, though I find the amazing amount of features on these engines, Have you ever thought of getting the Lionel GWR Hall?

Finally!

Awesome video! And even a more awesome GF!!! have her do some of your videos sometime!

You know Eric you my want to investigate if you can 3D print the Smoke deflectors for the one that doesn’t have the smoke deflectors. Just a thought.

I find the crew commentary at the start about having a heavy train comical, to be honest; for a "Duchess" (as the Coronation-class were commonly called by fans), having six 'on' like this is almost insultingly light; they were made to haul 10, 12, or more coaches from London to Glasgow, including the assault on Shap, one of the most grueling stretches of mainline in the UK.

Cool

Sounds like Lisa is a keeper

Before you glue the smoke deflectors on the duchess some didn't have smoke deflectors and I think it's meant to be like that , but both are beautiful models , great video though

Hey Eric do you want to know the greatest steam engine you can get hopefully is the flying Scotsman

They have there place in history. But I prefer the USA engines myself

While I love American steam, they are often, even passenger locomotives, very industrial and utilitarian. With British steam, there always seems to be a higher level of refinement. American streamlined locomotives tried to achieve this, but it seems (and I am not an expert by any means) that the English were just better and more consistent.

Some Dutches didn’t have smoke deflectors so it’s not wrong of they don’t have them

Eric can you review mth duchess of atholl the mth premier duchess of Sutherland and the mth premier LMS passenger cars next?

Given these are one of the physically largest classes ever built in the UK it'd be funny to see one posed next to the US steam locos.

YEEESSS!! Rule Britannia I say!

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK LADS

Pls present a german engine. React to one. They‘re such beautiful engines

The war begins

Wish MTH made a Flying Scotsman.

This reminds me of the time the flying Scotsman toured America In the 1970s apparently

brits are here

I love to see the European stuff

Revolution v2

I was offered entire set of mth guy had these and rest of Europe cars and locomotives now I hate not getting everything

It's time I start buying some Euro stuff myself.

Look on hattons rn there's another European train

How to get that sir a want too pls 🙏😌

And Eric, it is those massively out of scale couplers that disappoint me. There is an undoubted charm to 3 rail clunkiness, but you cant tell me that you are satisfied with them?