Vanguard - Historical Build with

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Жыл бұрын

In this video, I will be partnering with Drachinifel once again to bring you another exciting project: the creation of a historically accurate replica of the HMS Vanguard in the game Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts. This version of the British battleship was completed earlier in the war and saw service, unlike the real HMS Vanguard which was finished too late to see any combat.
As in our previous video, we will be using all of the available tools and resources to build the Vanguard as accurately as possible within the game, using historical blueprints, photographs, and other references to ensure that our replica is as faithful to the real ship as possible.
We hope you will join us for this exciting project and showdown between some of the most iconic ships in history. Be sure to tune in and see which vessel comes out on top!
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Captain of the 1st Company: Treefrog
Veteran Sergeants: 1stplaceonion, LCG Canyon, Welshy
Sergeant: Jackie, Twitchyknees, Alerik Rahl
Veterans: Telemonian Dan, Sunless Sky Nova, Threadoflength, Darth Vendar.
Battle Siblings: Jacky Chan, nagebenfro, scurvekano, Cpt Graftin, Icd, Iroey, Zadrias.

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@nickthenuker7916 Жыл бұрын

16:00 I actually asked Sapphire (the only one modding this game) on their own Discord server, they say it would be very hard or at least tedious to do, because you would need a copy of each gun to select the models. Hopefully they can implement it as a vanilla feature though, maybe it’s easier for the actual developers to do it.

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

20:33 Her turret complexes, designed in 1910s, placed the powder magazine above the shell room. I think this makes her more vulnerable to detonations than Barbette 4.

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

Vanguard had her guns modified so that the magazine was below the shell room just like the KGV’s (but unlike every other 15” armed RN ship)

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

@@BrotherMunro Guns yes but turret complexes? My reading shows that the had a powder-handling room above the shell room to mimic the arrangement that the turrets' hoists were designed to handle, and another set of hoists moved the propellant charges from the magazines to the powder-handling room. But not a physical movement of the powder magazines to the bottom of the complex.

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

@@dougjb7848 you can hear Drach himself talking about the changes in this video at the 16:30 mark :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbGoZJSc3dG9p6s.html

@mitchelloates9406 Жыл бұрын

Saying you might have to build 3 ships for the Americans - I'm guessing that means a North Carolina, a South Dakota, and an Iowa.

@adamtruong1759 Жыл бұрын

I think it might be possible to mistake this ship for a refitted HMS Hood, tbh.

@Frisian_man Жыл бұрын

awesome im so excited to watch the rest

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

Vanguard's deck protection was identical to that of the King George V class, six-inch non-cemented armour. Is non-cemented armor really equitable to Krupp5?

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

No but then UAD has a hell of a lot more deck hits than any real life engagement!

@Aelvir114 Жыл бұрын

It was very similar but also different in places.

@ad3z10 Жыл бұрын

Could have possibly upped her displacement a bit for the extra length as she came in way underweight anyway.

@pittsburghmcconnell Жыл бұрын

Great!

@homebychirstmas505 Жыл бұрын

why not use the modern battleship II hull?

@glauberglousger6643 Жыл бұрын

To be fair, I wonder why they even completed Jean Bart (she had a planned carrier conversion too) Really makes it weirder that they scrapped her Weird stuff by the French (no offense to French entities, food is great) Also love the history conversations at the beginning (I feel like Bismarck will beat Vanguard, and for being a late battleship, the Richelieu class were really light)

@adambosman9611 Жыл бұрын

As far as I understand it (i could absolutely be wrong) she was so close to completion that converting her to a carrier would be more expensive than just finishing her as a Battleship, and id bet with how small the Marine National was post war having another capital ship was deemed worth it.

@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын

Lovely, hope she performs well. The amount of pseudo-historians who don't understand this ship at all is seemingly never-ending

@TheRacingmenace Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, like with KGV their opinions were well-enforced.

@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRacingmenace Not really sure I follow, but okay

@Aelvir114 Жыл бұрын

So many people dismiss her just because she has WW1 era guns, despite them being one of the most accurate naval guns of WWII, and that’s not even taking into account her supercharges, armor scheme, and that she was the first battleship to have all of her weaponry having RPC from the get-go

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

31:05 It sure looks like the green fire arc indicator for A shows that it can’t fire directly ahead?

@Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow Жыл бұрын

It still can, it's just that that far forward section of the bow isn't coded (?) (not sure what the technical term is) to have the green arc show up, b/c you typically don't put your guns that far forward.

@Panzergraf Жыл бұрын

The green indicator just clips through the deck, as the deck slightly rices towards the bow.

@Aelvir114 Жыл бұрын

It always bothered me that UAD takes the quad KGV turret and basically just yet the two middle rings and calls it a twin, instead of using the twin KGV turret. The twin turret always had a nice look turret but UAD’s one looks far too large for a twin-turret and the spacing between the guns make it ridiculous. Then there’s the smaller caliber gun models almost never being British. Weird seeing the Japanese 12.7 cm/40 Type 89’s A1 Mod 1 mount as a British twin 40 mm AA gun. Here’s to hoping they’ll eventually let us put 5.25” turrets on a destroyer instead of the weird weird fantasy turrets they force you to use instead.

@hansthesoldier8700 Жыл бұрын

Q: whats ur favorite battleship of ww2?

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

HI MILLIE!!

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

Her guns were built for WW1 ships. Granting her Mk4 guns is a big , seriously ahistorical advantage.

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

They were (or at least the mountings) but they were thoroughly modernised by Harland and Wolff before being fitted. The use of the Mk 4 is also to represent her superchargers.

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

20:21 Krupp 5? I see nothing in Wiki or other online sources that indicates the nature / composition of Van’s armor was any different from KGV.

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

Annoyingly I don’t have the primary reference for the actual armour composition* but the use of Krupp V was to represent the fact that although Vanguard had a thinner belt than the KGV’s her protection was considered greater.

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

* I think I’d be able to tell you if I had a copy of ‘The Last British Battleship: HMS Vanguard, 1946-1960. By R.A. Burt’ but sadly I do not.

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

@@BrotherMunro Okay, I’ll take your word.

@dougjb7848 Жыл бұрын

@@BrotherMunro Drach, that’s a hint for a birthday gift if ever I’ve heard one.

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

Whilst I stand by what I said earlier after rewatching both videos it also may simply be that we didn’t have Krupp V in the game when we built KGV 😅

@robertstone9988 Жыл бұрын

1 on 1 perfict sea I thank the yamatos got it

@cbearabc Жыл бұрын

You to, 😂

@octopus1066 Жыл бұрын

wait if you wanted historical build, shouldn't you guys added her with the triple 16 inch guns x 4 turrets? as her original plans where for her to have 16 inch guns in triple turrets but they went with the 15 inch guns from HMS glorious and another ship i forgot the name of. If she would have stayed with the plan of 16 inch guns, should would ha ve the heaviest broadside second to the literally yamato class.

@robertstone9988 Жыл бұрын

If my aunt had balls shed be my uncle. Dosnt matter what cpuld have been. If they did that why not a montana or super yamatos. She was built with 8 15s so she gets 8 15s

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

Every reference I can find has Vanguard’s development beginning with the spare 15 inch guns from the start. The only 16” design the RN was considering at the time were the Lions (which had 9 in three triple turrets).

@robertstone9988 Жыл бұрын

@@BrotherMunro Has confused. its a common miss belief that vanguards hull is a lion hull with the old 15s. There not. vanguard is her own unique one off ship like hood. Hull and all.

@novatopaz9880 Жыл бұрын

@@robertstone9988 Vanguard wasn't supposed to be a one-off like hood, but then again, they both suffered the same fate: First of their class, the only ones to complete of their class because by the time they finished, so many changes were enacted that it was cheaper to just *build* new ships than to make more of the class.

@robertstone9988 Жыл бұрын

@@novatopaz9880 vanguard used up all the gun turrets? They had 4 and only 4 of them. Vanguard was a sweeper ship. Made quick with odds and ends. Her turrets were strate off of two bartle cruisers converted in to carrier's.

@NotTheBomb Жыл бұрын

Why not the King George V? I would argue that ship is more capable

@BrotherMunro Жыл бұрын

She’s in division 2, UAD kinda cripples her as well - keep an eye out for Drach helping take a look at some of the alternate KGV designs in a future video ;)