Me with the brn180, pws mk116 and wolf A1 😅

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You haven't learned yet? You get them really nice and expensive rifles for Christmas, anniversaries and their Birthdays. Tell them, Baby I want you to be apart of this with me so bad I got you this HK 416 / LMT / LWRC / Sig and so on. Don't forget a lot of mags, Ammo and top it off with a high end Scop, Red Dot, PVO with them so she knows how much you love her. My wife always said, "O Baby you shouldn't have, it so nice and coast so much" Me, Honey your worth every bit of it and more. She kept saying " No You really shouldn't have" for some reason.

@arlissyoung8899 you gotta try the 50/50 approach. She gets the upper, you get the lower. Together your gifts make a perfect match. 🤣🤣

I’ve used that before

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They also have a chrome lined version in the medium profile(not cold hammer). It's $150 more than the standard model. I was tempted to get it but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Faxon has a good reputation from what I understand.

CHF or nothing

@@dcstiger Same. Wish it was a CHF chrome lined barrel.

​@jonathanwick1265 yep I worked on 1k-1500 of those barrels when I worked at faxon

They should have reached out to DD since they used to make the actual 416 CHF barrels. Brownell's already gets exclusive uppers from DD.

Aside from giving you the business, great video. I like the longer format as you have such a basis of knowledge to share.

That was true of me when I had much less money

The only reason to ever buy a 416 is as a collector or investor. We can debate whether it's a good investment. But it's at least a reasonable investment. Years ago I passed on an offer for 3 - M16A2s in the box at 6k each. Ouch.

@@donaldmei8797 I dont begrudge collectors or investors, I only begrudge fanboys.

i mean there's definitely a reason they did what they did. they just never updated the import model for whatever reason.

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so real

I used an HK416 overseas. Full auto was too fast in my opinion. Especially with the suppressors on them. I wouldn’t say it’s more controllable, but it is different.

nope

One trigger pull..3 rounds in auto

its not the same dad

I'd rather have HK at home then no HK because HK just refusing to sell to the civilian market.

I used one overseas. Weighed around 14lbs. And some guys had 416’s that weighed 16lbs…

@@darklyripley6138 What's your overall impression of the weapon system from a professional perspective?

@@ThomasRonnberg Good gun. But it’s not anymore accurate and reliable than a regular DI gun. It’s outdated nowadays.

Good gun. Not anymore reliable or accurate than a DI gun. Kinda outdated though.

@@darklyripley6138Your observation is inline with many users. The expense, for the non enthusiast, just doesn’t offer additional performance to make a move from DI. But, if you want one, you know what to do.

Focus Tripp did a review of it using my own upper that I sent to him. Pretty in depth.

Then Snickers threw his whole life away and rolled over, too.

It's too bad it doesn't have adjustable gas to keep that wonderful pattern when suppressed. I went the LMT route for that, and overall better quality. IMHO, the LMT shovelnose is a much better handguard solution, and that piston assembly only takes a few seconds to disassemble, which makes it so much easier to clean. LMT's cryo-chrome-lined barrel is also about as good as it gets for a fighting rifle. The 12" piston barrel shot 1.3 to 1.8 MOA groups at 50m with a 2MOA red dot and magnifier using 60cpr defensive 5.56 ammo, resting on a backpack. Since I want to know how the accuracy is under a more realistic setting instead of testing its mechanical potential. HK's attitude towards the cilivan market drove me away from liking their products. If I really want something like a 416, this BRN4 is definitely a very good choice!

And 512,000 M-4s, and 26,000 belt feds. Treason.

They showed up in Gaza

@@tonyc223Absolute Treason!

The equipment given away sucks, but the blood we shed to hand it all back to the enemy should have gotten the cadaver impeached.

Y’all are weird

No, it’s not the gas block it’s the gas port

@@SmallArmsSolutions Ahh, that makes sense.

The MR556 is the issue by default. It's not gassed like a 416 and it doesn't use the correct barrel.

@@epiccowboymemes2042 My understanding is that the 416 is just as overgassed as the MR556.

When I built my BRN4, mine was short stroking. I had to open the gas port to 0.0655” to get it to function reliably and hold open after last round. The inside of my gas block had a lot of radial chatter from machining that I’m guessing was not a great gas seal. This now ejects perfectly with the Geissele super 42 buffer and spring.

These are now Brownells forged uppers, not HK. The lowers back then were HK forging as well. Procured from HK in Colombus GA. These are not

Most use the same gas system as an SKS, short stroke piston. The SKS uses a diffrent locking system, very similar to the StG44 and the FAL so some extent.

​@@SmallArmsSolutions I apologize, I should have been a little clearer in my wording. With that being said, let me rephase my statement. I've always wondered about how a system with a piston and gas block identical to that of an SKS would work on an AR platform rifle ( regardless of bolt carrier system ) and if there would be any benefits in the long term in terms such as reduction in power fouling or the ability for longer sustained firing especially if a role similar to an RPK type configuration. I do know that barrel harmonics would be an issue to some extent, but hypothetical and what ifs always interest me.

The SKS system using a push rod and an intermediate rod id identical to many rifles such as LWRCI, HK 416, Caracal…… All thats different is the intermediate rod is held in a separate compartment and the return spring is attached to the intermediate rod instead of the operating rod. The system is the same. The RPK is better designed as a long stroke for the heavy full auto use. The thicker operating rod is very beneficial for durability. The SKS is designed with semi-auto in mind. Far less demanding than full auto let alone a sustained fire weapon. Hope this answers your question.

It’s wild, my experience shows there is a huge variation in rates between rifles. Probably due to some people not cleaning as well as others. But it’s a wild feeling burping through mags like nothing. I personally preferred the m16.

Yes, it’s not brownells.

I own both a BRN 4 and 816. No significant difference.

The gas system is a bit better in the caracal. The Caracal is the third evolution of the system by the original 416 engineers for what that’s worth.

FocusTripp has a good series on these rifles as well.

I have both. 816 gas system is definitely better. Its adjustable. I think it shoots softer than the mr556 or Brn4.

I agree, but people want the other. Always and forever unfortunately. DD makes a fantastic rifle . My buddy has a m4a1 and it shoots nicely.

It was developed at a time before the M4 and its magazines was refined to the point the 416 became unnecessary. This was before we had DDs, KACs, and radians as we know them now. I'd take my BCM middie with a vltor A5 system any day of the week over this.

@@mghegotagun the m4 was made in the 80s. The hk416 uses m4 mags. They both use STANAG mags

@@bananawatch8158 The M4 may have been 'made' in the 80s, but they haven't been fielded to see the conditions to have issues in until the gwot in the early 2000s. Because of those conditions, that's when M4 feedramps, pmag adoption, socom profile barrels, and the development of the 416 came about among many other developments and refinements I'm probably forgetting. To this day, the M4 is still getting refinement with midlength gas systems being a fairly recent development, even being used in the new military URGI, and military branches as well as more manufacturers playing with the vltor A5 buffer system over the carbine buffer system. Again, the 416 came about during the time of those shortcomings with the M4 that came to light early during the gwot almost 20 years ago. The M4/AR15 now is not the same M4 when the 416 came about, which is why a 416 at that time was far more enticing than it is now when we have such refined AR15s on the market made with the benefits of hindsight from the gwot.

@@bananawatch8158yes, but early M4s had significant issues

That would be a good comparison. I have the 10.4" 416 and a 16" Colt LE6940P but prefer the Colt despite the monolithic upper. I'd like longer handguard options

lmao

The bolt on an internal piston would never get hot enough to damage the components of the bolt. Heat in the carrier argument is mute. The rifle would have blown long before the springs and components would hit any transformation temperatures.

That is the way I feel about it . I am spoiled with super soft shooting light AR,s.

I don’t have info on that yet

That barely mentioned and briefly offered Davidsons exclusive MR762A1 was $4450. I think the Haenel CR223 is better than what HK is selling us.

No way I could get a limited run gun from HK to review unfortunately

It’s heavy for what it is. Not knocking it. I used one for a deployment and enjoyed it, but it is kinda heavy.

​@@darklyripley6138 What's lighter? Not an LPVO once you add a QD mount. ACOG with RMR should be. Are there any other options?

@@timewave02012 There’s plenty of scopes that weight 23 ounces of less that have better features that an Elcan.

@@darklyripley6138 They need to weigh more like 15oz to compete with the Elcan, because the Elcan weight includes the mount.

@@timewave02012 The Elcan weight about 22 ounces. The Trijicon VCOG weighs 23 ounces. Primary Arms SLX is about 21 ounces. You can get a ton of 1-6 or even 1-8’s that weigh about the same, if not less than the Elcan. And that isn’t including Prism scopes that weigh nothing. The Elcan isn’t a bad scope. But for what it offers, it’s just a bit heavy.

What patents are being infringed?

@SmallArmsSolutions This was about 10 years ago, and the piston and other parts were in question. When I talked to a representative of the company, it was not clear to me if it was patent or mismanagement that caused the company to fail.

There are no patents being infringed. Those patents for the gas system are done. That’s the G36 gas patent which predates the 416.

The gas port is adjusted to balance the system. It’s not overgassed. The system has been slowed down so you don’t need a firing pin block. Parts are not taking such a beating .

@SmallArmsSolutions Makes sense, thanks for the reply!

It runs with a suppressor super clean, and it doesn’t speed up the bolt carrier cyclic speed like a standard m4-m16. if you’ve ever fired suppressor on a direct impingement M4 vs piston, the difference is night and day. Carbon fowling doesn’t travel hardly at all to the bolt carrier group and the action. Hence, why the Marines use them m27. Also much more resilient in and out of water conditions (won’t blow up in your face coming out of the water). A large majority of SOCOM use these as well, depending on the mission set.

​@@genomk1830mine is very dirty suppressed and runs faster with a can as 9 hole reviews showed in their surefire RC2 vs RC3 video

You can’t? What’s wrong with it? This was accurate and reliable. As much as any 416 I shot. They corrected some issues of the 416. It it mil-tested, no. Neither are 80% of the options on the market. Well made and well executed. I tested extensively on full auto as well.

@@SmallArmsSolutions You said it. It aint mil-spec and tested. I would trust myself shooting a boar on my land with it but not on the battlefield. If it was my only option, then i guess i’d have no choice. Just like if you gave me a 1911 or a glock for battle, i’d choose the 1911 all the time. Tried and tested matters

The testing on the BRN-4 has not been done. Not saying it would not pass. As far as a pistol, Glock has a much better combat record than the M1911. Sheer numbers and countries which have used them in combat. I would definitely take the Glock over a M1911 on so many levels. But we have a choice o all good.

Negligible. Not much diffrent. The LMT probably is gassed slightly more using same ammo. But nothing like the 416

No, its a SilencerCo ASR muzzle device

@@SmallArmsSolutions oh , I see. . Thank you.

I use the 7,62 version

@@SmallArmsSolutions it's a can that I want to do more personal testing on in 300 BLK, as I hear low backpressure designs are a poor fit for the cartridge, but hope that is not the case. In 308 I noticed it was distinctly louder than my SilencerCo Velos in 5.56, but I'm not sure if that's just because 308 is louder overall even with suppression.

You never know what Brownells may come up with

French Machine gun steel is a fable of FN and their magical french sources of steel they use in their CHF processing in their machine gun barrels. I yet to see any proof it's any better.

@bradborgelt60 Base on a few minutes of snooping around it looks like the only way we’re gonna find out if it’s true or not is with a long, multi year review to see which barrel lasts longer and then a burn down test with FN’s magic barrel vs a normal cold hammer forged, chrome-lined barrel. Maybe see if Iraqveteran js up to it. Didn’t find any mention of French though, probably gotta dig more.

Me neither

Search for Aubert & Duval GHK

It unobtanium. People want what they can't have. Well, that's my geuss lol.

SEALs, my dude.

Because HK

it's a nice rifle

Part of it is the rifle had less failures while still having the familiar M4 type of ergos and zero change in sight picture when the military was testing them. During a 60,000 round test the rifles had the following number of failures. XM8: 127 stoppages. • MK16 SCAR Light: 226 stoppages. • 416: 233 stoppages. • M4: 882 stoppages.

Actually if the receivers are made correctly, when you close the upper. The tail of the bolt carrier pushed the buffer in far enough it never comes in contact with the retainer pin.