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Understand your sentiment for Lewis, though it's difficult to argue against Max. The sheer hollistic commitment to racing is something we've very rarely seen in F1 history.

Taking Max. No contest.

It's not controversial. In 2021 Verstappen outclassed Hamilton very plainly. Mercedes had the quicker car in the majority of the races and Hamilton needed an exploding tire for Verstappen in Baku, Silverrstone and Hungary to even be in contention. People who claim Hamilton was better that season are incredibly blinded by bias. There is no valid argument there. Verstappen always finished 1st or 2nd in every race in many occasion outperforming the car. Hamilton had mistakes like Baku, Hungary, Turkey, Russia, Silverstone, Austria and a very poor weekend in Monaco. I have never met a Hamilton fan that disagreed and had anything other than useless rhetoric like "bUt aBu DhAbI" as if nothing else happened that season.

2014 Lewis against Max same machinery I'll pick Max anyways 😅

Max all day

The only choice, as team principal, must be Verstappen. He has time on his side……and I also believe he is the better driver. He’s polished his racing style and there’s no one better at this moment.

Max... I want a driver, not a celebrity.

Max is as pure a driver as it gets

Soft people dislike Max because he speaks his honest truth and doesn’t care if that isn’t the popular/common opinion. most people are scared to do that themselves, they prefer Lewis’s carefully tailored PR speak because it lacks sharp edges and tows the company line/popular opinion because there is no chance of offence or argument. Lewis talent is without question, people who deny his immense ability are insane. People who dislike Hamilton mostly dislike his for his overly managed speech and corporate aligned opinions.

I take max Verstappen,Cameron you forgot Nigel Mansell,above 40

F1 in the 50's, 60's and 70's More than 10 deadly casualtys each decade. The gladiators on 4 wheels. But I prefer the safety nowadays.

With all respect to Lewis as all time great, but that Max fella is something I have never seen before in F1, that is why he is the one being compared to Senna & Schumacher.

I just watched Grand Prix F1 - The Killer Years. It tells how Jackie Stewart was instrumental in changing the rules on safety, the years it took to do it. It shows a driver being burned to death whilst people watch and some at great risk uselessly try to save him. Safety now is something those drivers couldn't dream of.

Respect to Martin Bundle!!! Him and Murray's commentary was the best too!!!

Brundle is gold

As good as Sir Lewis is. I can't be bothered with* all of his off-track BS and shenanigans, him shoving his political views on people who just want to watch some racing, his diva-ism, CultLH etc. Here you have Max FAST AF a pure racer, fully locked in week in and week out no bs no nothing, so I can fully understand where you're coming from Martin.

Have watched F1 for many years. Lewis is great. Max is now great. You have to have that perfect car under you. They both have shared that experience.

Martin Brunle for the win.

If I had to choose, I'd find out which one hangs out late with the mechanics and engineers, who spends more time studying data/sims, which one is more attentive at debriefs, their fitness regimen,who has fewer outside distractions?.Both have shown they have the talent. At the level of these two, it's the uncompromised commitment, drive and willingness to listen, learn & adapt that would be the criteria I'd look for

Of course he would choose Max... Max is a machine, cold, technician, and with the maturity he has now he is definitely the best. I may even say that Alonso is in better form than Hamilton, Alonso is more aggressive, feisty, calculist.... Hamilton is so focused that the car is crap that he just forgot to race hard... Means that if Hamilton does not have the best car he also only on driving capabilities he cannot overcome the machine... I think that Max would be capable because Max just wants to be the best with whatever he has, Hamilton just says I cannot do more with this car

And remember Hamilton is Brundle's biggest mistake ever, 2004/2005 when Whitmarsh tried drop Lewis from McLaen's books, Anthony Hamilton went to Brundle for help and asked him to be Lewis's manager. Brundle said NO. Imagine refusing one of F1 most successful racers when he was given to you free on a plate? I do not care what anyone says, he is living to regret all that success, power and financial gains. Brundle also tried to be Lewis's manager after he split with his father, and then Lewis didn't take up the offer. It is why Brundle will pick a driver over Lewis at all times, he would put Alonso over Lewis too. It is where Alonso is pound for pound the best racer on the grid comes from, Brundle. At the moment who is Max racing, no one, he isn't racing his team mate or an opposing driving from a different team, which Lewis bar 2020 has always done. Max is just battling clear air, this makes him a good driver not a good racer. People say Max beats Perez who is in the same car, give Max a better team mate, put Sainz in the car, put Alonso in the car and let's get the show on the road, and see how good he really is when his cage gets rattle. Lewis is a good racer, Max is a good driver. Max would make a great long haul lorry driver too if he didn't have a famous father to open the right doors for him, even when he was never ready for F1 at 17 years old. The system thought Lewis would fry up and retire, not turn up at Ferrari and get a better car back in his hands, we are going to see the real Max when Lewis gets back in a competitive car. The one who legs cramped up at the end of the season, and could barely get out the car, that is who!

Brundle, Palmer, Chandhok, Coulthard, I love their comments and the information in their contributions to F1

Max is close to his peak while Lewis is past his peak. If I were a team boss I would choose Max as my number 1. Lewis is still phenomenal though, I would say the difference now is consistency. If both were at their peak, I would choose Lewis. He’s a better ambassador for his team and he is a team builder. Looking forward to Lewis winning at Ferrari.

There is a rectification needed...: The interview was NOT on "F1 Nation podcast", it was on "F1 Beyond The Grid Podcast".👴🧐😉

Your titles and thumbnails are so consistent now, that I think we have it to the point that most don't even need to look to see if it's your video anymore I guess having posted 200 videos in 5 months, you have activated autorecognition settings

Absolutely great episode of beyond the grid w Martin. Loved it. Love him.

Definitly SLH...no 40 years old driver in F1 has ever looked mentally and physically like SLH before either.

F1 Drivers' Art is KINETIC. As Artists, The Best are Compelled so to Do. They seek Perfection! Perfect Apex, Perfect Braking, etc. I've been spectating and attending F1 since the Late 1950s.

If your talking NOW, I would take MV because he has more longevity to go and he breathes for go where Hamilton has already been. Hamilton at MV age early 20s I'm taking Hamilton because his first seat in McClaren he raced and beat the then current world champ Alonso. He also has proven that No matter where he stands in the championship, he will come back and fight for it to win. That mentality only comes from the Best F1 determined drivers.

If choosing between the two came down to focus I would have to choose Verstappen. As a Hamilton fan I cannot ignore the laser like focus and dedication to the sport that Verstappen has at the moment. This man gives everything he can both on and off the track. He is ALWAYS driving. Whether it be a simulator or a real car he is always behind the wheel getting better and better. Ask any elite athlete and they will tell you-you have to be obsessed to be the best. All of the greats have this in common. Lewis has an immense natural talent, but talent is not enough when you are competing against someone hungrier than you. If SLH has a decent car he can win another championship. But his focus both on and off the track will have to reflect it. I cant remember who it was, but I remember when they said Lewis was distracted back when he was with Nicole. He made a decision back then it seems, and I would like to think his craft reflected it those many years ago. I can not account for every minute of SLH's day, but if we went by appearances alone one would have to ascertain Max is giving it everything. It will be interesting to see how things unfold.

I like Martin Brundle's modest and measured, but spot on commentary during the races.

22:29 Exactly 👀🤔🤯💥🤐 It used to take a very special person to drive in formula 1. It’s not like that anymore. This youngsters have no idea how lucky they are to drive in this era. Half of the grid wouldn’t exist. I wrote that 25:03 moments before you said it. It’s a real racers mentality.

It was definitely a “God Tier” interview with Martin. He’s definitely one of the old school, last of a generation almost. His accident I knew about, I’ve seen it, he’s a lucky man, I have no idea how he was/is still able to drive. 10:46 Yeah Adrian 1st, typical Martin, I love him and have been missing him this year and now we know why. 12:07 and Max Verstappen lol. Fair play I reckon. I can’t disagree with that, but right now I’d do the same thing. Lewis is getting on, I still support LH, I want him to win 8th Title in a Scuderia. He’s gonna have to go some though to beat all the younger drivers I’ve listed similar to Zak with his comments and as we saw in your poll. 15:38 Right now I’m taking Oscar and Adrian, it’s a look to the future.

Brundle is right!!!!

Max combined the pure race heart of Senna with the teambuilding detail/communication of Schumi, virtue of his dad experiencing that first hand as his teammate. He could beat Michael in a kart, but never got close in the F1 car. We know why, Jos learned the lesson for Max. The result is a goat tier driver.

I’m not sure if I subscribe to the age debate-especially when the data for Lewis and Alonso (the two oldest drivers on the grid) show that they are operating at a level that is as high as 90% of the grid (in terms of reaction times). And data also show that reaction times significantly drop off after the age of 50, so I think they have a bit more time 😉 If Alonso or Lewis have a car that is quick enough to fight for the wins-they will make the difference.

Bundle is correct.

You posted a video a few days ago talking about why people arent watching and sadly this is it . . . Nothing grips the imagination quite like death. Theres always been eras of dominance but back then life was on the line. When a driver drove on the limit he wrestled with death itself.

I think recency also has a lot to do with people’s opinions of drivers. Max’s dominance and achievements seem unequalled today through his overwhelming dominance. But living through the Schumacher and Hamilton, Vettel eras there are differences in F1 to take into account. Reliability is a huge factor in Max’s dominance. So are the increased number of races a season. The improvement in prediction tools, even different rules make it very difficult to directly compare champions. The last time the cars of winning drivers were roughly equal in the same era was 2021. For me, Hamilton won that direct battle. Since then, Max has improved and Lewis has probably declined. Let’s see if the old lion has one last roar at Ferrari.

We could be about to enter one of the most epic periods in F1 history in terms of the battle at the front. The cars are converging in performance, thanks to the resurgence of both Mclaren and Ferrari. And the current grid may be the most talented in the history of the sport; the only reason why it hasn't been so interesting the last couple of years is because Red Bull hit the ground running with the new rules, while the others lost their way. But now that Zak Brown and Fred have sorted the structures of their organisations, we could be about to see the talents of both Leclerc and Norris blossom the same way Red Bull's car has allowed Max's talent to shine. My prediction is that the true extent of Leclerc and Norris' talents with serious cars underneath them will become truly apparent and we will see regular Max vs Leclerc vs Norris battles at the front, with Piastri and Sainz snapping at their heels. Added to that, if Mercedes can get their act together, Lewis and George will be in the mix as well. Another prediction; Leclerc gets his first pole and win of the season this weekend in Imola and kick-starts his championship campaign.

Why all the debate about Lewis at 39. If he has a Newey designed Ferrari that is all any top level driver needs: the best car. The driver as you said affects the outcome far less than the car. When a top driver gets the best car and wins the championship, by default they get called the best driver. That is all we need to understand about F1 racing. The best car wins and creates the best driver.

Put both drivers Max and lewis on the same team..it will be fireworks..I will always give the edge to lewis ...his composure during adverse situations gives him that edge....it where Max is lacking

I am a relatively new F1 fan, within the last few years. In equal machinery I think i would take Verstappen over Hamilton. I wasnt there for Hamilton's dominance, but in the 2-3 years I have been watching I just don't think Hamilton has the same killer instinct Verstappen has. He may have had it earlier in his career, but I don't know.

You're spot on about Martin Brundle. He is an unsung great of F1 drivers. It was a fabulous podcast. I'm loving your unbiased opinion. One of your best posts in my mind. Keep up the good work.

Horner- f1's change since your day Brundle- you never made it to f1 did ya? 😂😂😂😂😂

Great Cameron content

You have to bear in mind that Brundle was speaking with as a team principal there. Ok with Newey but Hamilton is for max two to three years whereas Verstappen is the better long term option unless he doesn't get bored from winning all the time and chucks it all in and moves on to something else. On the drivers, I remember one time TV cut to Ross Brawn on the radio to Schumacher wanting a specific time for a number of laps, say like he wanted 1.15.3 seconds per lap. He went on to nail that time to the tenth - lap after lap for 8 to 10 laps before he pitted.

What he said is true that’s how my mind set was racing street bikes. But you still feel for the person and the family

You can literally win the championship and toto regrets hiring you. Yeah f toto...

The level of dominance from Max Verstappen is unseen, never happened before. Not from Hamilton, not from Schumacher, not from Senna. And for every person who says he's got Perez as the 2nd driver, Lewis had Bottas, Schumacher had Barrichello, Senna had Berger while driving cars at least as good as Max had, even better actually. Only jealousy and hate will stop anyone from respecting and admiring Max Verstappen, a true legend of the sport.

New to your channel, watched your interview with windser post imola, also glad you changed your tune on Oscar, I think 2026 regs will suit Oscar and he will wipe the floor with lando, calling it now

I like Brundle, he's quite knowledgeable and far from a dinosaur , very much a bridge from the past to the future......shame though he never actually won anythig .-).

I remember growing up in the 80's, without malice, back then (granted he was unlucky with injuries and limited with teams available) Brundle was a solid tier two level driver. Perhaps more than anything he was unfortunate to have been in F1 at the time of Piquet, Prost, Senna and from the British point of view Mansell mania. He took a break from F1 for a few years, and when he came back, he ran face first into the tail end of the Prost, Mansell and Senna era and the start of the rise of Schumacher and Häkkinen et al. However, when the history of F1 is written, he'll retain his own legacy, as it cannot be underestimated, his impact via punditry following the sad loss of James Hunt, and how Brundle, along with Murray Walker defined the modern F1 TV format and commentary.

I loved Brundle from day one, this man has so much knowledge and explains it so well during the races that I switched from the BS commentary on the Dutch broadcaster to Sky F1, mainly because of him. He has been the biggest Max Verstappen fan on the whole British Island and he has never tried to hide it. There are plenty of reasons to take Max over Lewis: 1. Lewis isnt a killer, Max is, thats why Max chooses to dominate while Lewis preferred to party all over the world 2. Max has much more dedication to his sport than Lewis ever had, Lewis has other things he likes, Max only likes racing 3. Max isn't a PR boy like Lewis. Now I know you might say that thats part of selling your brand as Brundle GP, but I rather have someone who wins over people with his work ethic and his honesty like Max, Lewis always pours a PR sauce on everything which is not being real 4. Lewis tries to abuse his platform to spread divisive ideas like BLM, Max doesnt want to try and tell people what to do or to think, he wants to race 5. Max is just better than Lewis, thats why Max was in F1 when he was 17, Max was made to do this by someone who knew what was needed to succeed in F1, learning from Schumi but even more from his own mistakes.

We all know what happened that year if you don’t, you don’t know F1. I have been watching F1 since Dijon 1979. It’s Simple - big crash at Silverstone. Fia knew more big crashes to happen so Verstappen was given the championship I like both drivers, they are not Senna’s or Villenueve’s at all, but it would have been a catastrophic season If the Fia let both of them play bumper cars the rest of the season.

Both in their prime you could make a case for both (newer fans wouldn’t remember Hamilton’s absolute peak). But in general a lot of Brundles takes these days seem to be based on who he’s rather go for a pint with

Right now I would pick Max but when Lewis was at Max age I would pick Lewis Only time will tell if Max will be competitive at 40 years old as Lewis

Bundle never won a race in his career so who cares what he has to say? Lewis is doing what did not and will never accomplish. Mic drop

Lewis was at his peak in 2017 around 34years old. On a personal level my physical peak was 40/42 so I dunno. 37:17 I agree with Alan better race craft now, look at Alonso. Maybe not quite as fast as once was though. 🧐👀🤔⚡️🤫✨🤐💫🤯💥⁉️

Nothing what Martin said is bonkers or chaotic or controversial. As he said getting in the car is voluntary, going to war wasn't. What don't you understand about that

Just watched it and come back to yours. Never knew about the seriousness of Brundle's ankle injury, 'It [his foot] was hanging on by the skin' .

Lewis will never be seen as one of the greats, even though he is and u know why, Cameron…..

Northing new there, Brundle never seemed to like Hamilton anyway, or respect him. He only use to interview Hamilton when he lost, or failed a race. Even Jeremy Clarkson noticed this. But yep! I was one that use to look forward to Brundle's knowledgeable input, and use to look forward to his grid walks.

Why not have the same energy for Alonso ? He is still performing better than 90% of the grid.

Was Nigel Mansell not 40 when he won the championship in 1992? I thought he had just turned… Although we had Damon and to an extent Coultard, us Brits were very unlucky in losing two potential world champions for the 1990’s in Martin and Johnny. Let’s not forget that Johnny Herbert was being talked about as the next future F1 great until his awful crash at Brands Hatch which messed up his feet as well. That circuit is only a few miles from where I live and my dad brought home a little piece of the debris from that crash. Not sure what happened to it. I did watch both win Le Mans as a teenager though… 1990 and 1991. Very different times. Max would have killed himself if racing in that era. He would have been just like Stefan Bellof - takes too many risks.

Think Cameron started watching F1 in 2024 and only because there was a mixed race guy in it 👍🍻

I love max for just racing nothing else. He is not bothered with yapping Brittisch hamilton fans. Im glad f1 is all about racing again and not a fashion show anymore. Hamiltons head got to big for his helmet.

I have a genuine question since I wasn't watching F1 in 2010-2013. Were people rating/choosing Vettel above Schumacher at that time? Since they were on the grid together.

The 2021 champignonship: in rhe end it was Mercedes strategy to not call Lewis in. Lewis knew that was rhe wrong call. So get over it already. Respect Lewis and Max die takeing the chances giving to them.

F1 does seem a but sanitized these days doesn't it? I'd agree with that.

Igiven how driven lewis is by adversity and wanting to do his talking on the track,could it be that he always had a grudge against Toto for believing in Max and that spurred him to win the championships to prove him wrong?

Max over Lewis any day.

Since 2020 I would pick Max any day every day over any other driver... So that's not a surprise for me!

Now, please realize mate, just 2 weeks ago you were getting royally pissed at Toto Wolf for saying that the engineer was more important than the driver. Now you are gushing over the fact that Brundle said Newey is more important than Max. I do not like Wolf or mercedes, however, that seems pretty hypocritical to me.

I must be old - I used to tune in to F1 to watch Martin Brundle race (well almost race)

Guys it’s just life, people have favourites: When it was Lewis vs Button, Brundle came across as a good friend of Button. Sometimes biases stick. However on the contrary, Lewis’s Dad consulted Brundle regarding Lewis’s contract. So not all bad. Just human, has favourites, nothing malicious. My mother-in-law doesn’t like me, no idea why lol

You need to be challenged within your own team 1st, Redbull should bring in a worthy challenger..

How lovely everyone is free to their own opinions

Same as brundle at the moment. But it dusn't mather if he took lewis he is also a good option.

All the great drivers of their era stood out in one way or another. It was as if they were of a rare breed. Within the "breed" of British journalists MB also seems of a rare breed. His answers are purely based on the sport F1, not a hint of British bias there. Very rare. Very refreshing.👴👌👏

Put them in the same car and you will witness total domination by Max over sir Lewis.

Again, drivers come and go, teams endure. Hitching your wagon to a driver is short term project. We appreciate football players for their skill, but wear team colours for life...

46:27 mate! Im a lawyer ok, dont give me this verify stuff. I know i know plausible deniability. But if you ask me and i know who would cuz in a new fan, but id like to think ive become a true fan of the sport not just DTS…but if you ask me the FIA has wanted SLH to lose and fade away since his 2nd or 3rd championship. So if your question is was there malice involved in AD21 you damn right! Idw hear about the show and entertainment and motor racing. In no other sport can the ref or other arbiter just erase a team’s lead like that and say next point wins and here the other team gets the ball first (or whatever other advantage). They KNEW what they were doing they KNEW what the outcome would be. These are not stupid men. I cannot be convinced otherwise.

Of course he is going to favour max Lewis is older and has fewer years in the sport max is younger and the one who is at top at plus Martin carreer and longitvity hangs on the people like max and red bull for interviews

Hi Cameron. Brundel is two faced mate. Why has he always backed and helped explain away the AB21 robbery.

I understand a content creatir must make content, but brundle picking Max is about as controversial as claiming water is wet. Ages aside, peak Max is many more times more consistent than Lewis was at his peak. Lets not forget Button once said he would be more scared having Max as a teammate than Lewis. Coming from a man who was teammates with Lewis, that says it all chaps. No chaos here.

They changed the rules Cameron. Of course they robbed Lewis. It was fraudulent. They even admitted fault and sacked Masai as race director. They should have overturned the race result.

Sky need Martin Brundel he's the counter to all the woke dross in the commentary team .

The 2021 season of f1 ninety percent of the British pundits wanted Max Verstappen to win the championship.on the other hand all of the Dutch pundits wanted Max to win

First time Max was actually under pressure in this season's red bull, he made a mistake. He could not pull away from either Piastri, or later on, Lando.

Anyone In their right mind at this point in time would choose max over lewis..

Ex Hamilton's team mates, double world champion Alonso, Button World Champion and Rosberg World Champion. Name the World Champions that have or are World Champions in the same car with Verstappen? Perhaps just inferior team mates who can't challenge?

Martin Brundle is the main reason I still watch and pay for SkysportsF1, Krofty is pretty good as well as well as some former drivers this in contrary to all the diversity hires they added over the past years that you can hardly understand. As soon as the old guard leaves I am out and will just watch the cheapest offer I can find combined with my favourite podcasts/live streams. Go woke go broke

An Amazing driver can make an average car seem better than it is. An Amazing car can make an average driver a Champion.

Brundle has never been a big Hamilton fan, so his preference for Max, other than the "age" issue, is unsurprising.

we human are always about the present moment. our myopic range of view and short memories cripple our analytical mind. and most of us here are no different. max 'is' this moment. he is in the best car and has only an average driver teammate as his competition. what great things has max truly done with a car that was not 1 second faster than any other on the grid?! who has max's teammates been and have really put him to the sword - daniel? norris, and now yuki, has exposed the ordinary standard that is daniel. a driver that all these guys, including brundle, kept saying how great he was. who else? lewis has gone up against the best (F1 champion level drivers) and made them look average. he has won championships in cars that have not been the best, including 2021. that's right, 2021! a year where max's aggression (and angry disposition towards lewis) was more than apparent. you are right about one thing - max is single minded. he is a bully. he has no scruples and cares about no one or anything else but himself. and i see you guys here are praising this. but that is for this moment. later will be greater! when both lewis and max begin to fade into history, only the truly outstanding moments will stand out. moments like silverstone 2008; qualifying singapore 2018 (the set time surpassed what the car could theoretically do); qualifying styrian 2020 (max tried to 'dis the man with the handle' but could not keep the car on the track); qualifying canada 2017 (not even the computer could go around the track so fast); someone mentioned turkey 2020; germany 2018; brazil 2021 (despite fia-verstappen-masi not fair ways) (to name just 7). someone here spoke about michael jordan and kobe. the thing about these guys, like lewis, is that they are/were fearless. lewis would be teammates with anyone but max will never agree to a george or leclerc as a teammate. and we forget the records, like most consecutive podium finishes in a F1 debut season against the likes of alonso and raikkonen. but i digress.

Can you imagine a race in the near future where Lewis got his 8th. Think it would be an emotional world wide event that would embrace the whole world over. F1 would be on everyone's lips.

Cameron, one word to describe Brundle RACIEST against Lewis, 2021 when he was cheated of the 8th. Brundle and his team Justify to the world that Max deserve it, A safety car finish which they should be telling the world. I supposed if the uk was at war with Holland Brundle would be fighting with Max against his own (Traitor). It's ashamed that this country don't stand tall with Lewis with the union jack like they do with football and the Olympic to get 2021 overturn. Max as a sport man should hand it over, gracefully because he know he was beaten.

Max has no competition. That car is superior