Brushed Motor Showdown Holmes VS Reedy!

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This was not what I expected!!! Well not completely, you guys just have to see this one! Links below for the Holmes motors shown and the parts and pieces of the Element Ecto. Use the links to help support Exocaged RC, Thank you guys!
Website holmeshobbies.com/
All the Holmes Hobbies Crawlmaster Sport Motors
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All Holmes Motors on Amain
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Holmes Crawlmaster Sport 550 10t
Holmes Hobbies holmeshobbies.com/motors/brus...
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All the Holmes Hobbies Crawlmaster Pro Motors
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Holmes Crawlmaster Pro 550 10t
Holmes Hobbies holmeshobbies.com/motors/brus...
Element Ecto
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Flysky GT5 Radio
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Proline Trencher Tires
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Horizon bit.ly/3lcB9dt
Hobbywing 1080 ESC
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Holmes Hobbies 10t Crawlmaster Sport
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SSD Brass Knuckles
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Crawler Innovations Foams
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@HolmesHobbies 3 жыл бұрын

Some comments! Higher quality ingredients can slow a motor down. More torque, more drag brake, lower turn count for same speed. As evidenced by the 10t sport being slower than the 14t reedy. The sport motor had better "hold" brake due to drill balancing. The Pro will start up smoother and slower, but the tradeoff is less static hold. The pro would shine more when loaded down more, as you guessed. It has about twice the torque of the sport, but more than twice the price. Price to value ratio, I would also call it in the favor of the Sport!

@mikebird8290 3 жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR YOUR HONEST OPINION SIR

@brookerobinson85 3 жыл бұрын

Swapping to a Holmes motor in a few of my crawlers was definitely a big upgrade . Watching this makes me think maybe a 8t sport in my enduro ?

@thomasheathcote1642 3 жыл бұрын

I think the crawlmaster pro would've been a better comparison to the reedy or the crawlmaster sport if it were a 550 can as opposed to the 540 can that you used in this video

@thomasgross8289 3 жыл бұрын

I ran a HH trailmaster 27t sport for 3 years and beat it like it owed me money, ran it in mud and water and all i ever did was spray it out with wd40 once a blue moon and it was still going strong when I lost the rig. You make GREAT motors!

@malky525 3 жыл бұрын

The dig dawg himself...Dirk Diggler!

@scheers100 3 жыл бұрын

The crawlmaster sport is the best (price/quality) brushed motor for many crawlers I think.

@roblowrie1969 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a 12t 550 Crawlmaster Sport in my TRX4, and I have to say, for the money, £25, it can't be beaten!! It's been in the car for a year, and hasn't missed a beat. Great comparison test. 👍🏻

@NikkiNexo777 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Crawlmaster Sport in all of my crawlers with a HW 1080. Zero complaints.

@mrstanton81 3 жыл бұрын

The crawl master sport is something special imo. Love the vids and discussions! Thanks

@Frank-st7ku 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing! I'm getting my 10t 550 today for my redcat gen8, I'm thinking of gearing up now from 13t to 17t since its so much slower.

@jeffziola 3 жыл бұрын

I am definitely mind blown on how much these motors have come 👍

@scottdaubenspeck2291 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. That was a great video. Didnt think the sport would have a better drag break. But thats impressive. I simply love the way you do your videos and reviews. Keep up the awesome work Joe.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@ChiefRickyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us a good crawler motor ! 😊 🙏

@toddmiddleton1442 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve got the HW1080 and a Crawlmaster Sport 16t in my Capra. For a budget friendly set up it’s great. Low speed control and a nice little punch. Love the videos as usual.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Right on

@TRKISH324 3 жыл бұрын

Ive got the 1080 and Crawlmaster Sport 15T 550 in my 10-3. Crawls for days!

@addamwright704 3 жыл бұрын

I only use the The Crawlmaster sports in my trucks, they work great, seem to be almost bulletproof and you can't beat the price!

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

you got that right!

@hellorc7678 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC awesome motors for the price. Think I've installed about 5 of them in the last few weeks!

@JMHZ2401 3 жыл бұрын

Can't beat the value of the Crawl Master Sport motors.

@thomasvanderpool4735 2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you there!

@mikebird8290 2 жыл бұрын

So TRUE JOHN VHRC

@crawling86 2 жыл бұрын

21 turn trail master sport (hobby Holmes) with 28 tooth absolute love 👌🙏 Gears mean everything.................

@jdvtec 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't really tried a reedy motor but I have 3 crawl master sports 2 12t and 1 10t and love them. Great performance for the price.

@Love2Wander Жыл бұрын

Getting the motor for my Capra I think I will be happy. Nice review

@showtime813 Жыл бұрын

Great videos. Just ordered a shirt. And a Crawlmaster Sport!!

@paulschryer9571 3 жыл бұрын

- Hey EXO, Thankyou again, for another "great" video !!!! Yes, "WE" saw it, with our own eyes !!! - I love a straight-up guy !! Tell it how it is, no cover-ups here !!! 😉🇺🇸 - So I started my RC Crawling with a (KIT) AXIAL SCX10 II w/2-speed option. I was on a tight budget to start out my crawling experience.....but in the process of upgrading, I learned probably more than those people, who have the "moo-la" ($$$) to go for the great, highly modified : motor, esc, high quality lipos, and all the bells & whistles - (from the start). 🤔..... I learned that I can run my SCX10 II on a TRAXXAS 1/16th scale (stock) Titan 12-turn brushed motor, paired with the other original piece of equipment, the (stock) TRAXXAS 1/16 scale ESC, which is the

@paulpitmon6663 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see you try a team Brood motor. Thanks for a great video.

@RobKingRC 2 жыл бұрын

Got my Ecto today💪🏻 and ordered a pack of pinion gears 12t-17t Awesome rig! like you said ,will have to tame the Beast!! Gonna throw the 13t in first.

@tomlucasrccrawlers9108 3 жыл бұрын

Fun comparison. Keep it up Buddy.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@SPPTA 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love that sport. Have them in all my crawlers.

@idontcaresapo8233 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking to get the sport but it's confusing with the turns term... I have a 2021 bronco stock and I do more trail than Rock crawling. What turn should I get? 12t or 15t?

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

sapo, I did a test with the TRX 21t vs the CM 12t, the speeds are about identical but the CM 12 was the better choice. If you want more speed go with the 10t or even the 8t. the CM motors have 5 slots so the effective KV output is lower than a 3slot motor.

@idontcaresapo8233 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC thanks buddy I saw the vídeo...I'm ok with the 21t titan speed but the crawling control is not the best. I'm gonna go with the 12t and thank you again for answering my question

@hellorc7678 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. Should I consider th 8t sport for my ecto to keep the speed up a bit?

@Scale-Crawler-Xray-RC 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting , thanks for vidéo 👍👍💯

@gonncalomariamonteiro4176 3 жыл бұрын

And you've just opened the Pandora's box...because next is the big debate between brushed and brushless. In this video its obvious to see the difference between a generic can and the propose built ones. Not only in performance but in build quality as well. No questions here. But regardless of the motor, if the ESC is also generic, common sense dictates that, only by swapping the can, the performance gain is residual...at best. Hence, first swap the ESC and then the motor. So no huge deal. My problem here is when brushless comes to play. As you know, there are those who are fanatics for brushed and those who swear that brushless combos are the next big thing after the invention os sliced bread. Videos on this subject are immense, but most of the time, you end up with more questions than answers. I would love to see what's your opinion and advice on this...and since ECTO is still on the bench... I think you get the point. Thanks a lot for another great video. Keep them coming! Cheers mate!!!

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah this is debated, I also went through the brushless is everything and brushed sucks phase, as I get deeper into the hobby I see brushed is still a very competent setup. I like the Crawlmaster Magnums as I have 2, one in Optimus 3 and one in Myolnir and they have tons of power and control. In crawlers, brushless is still usually more efficient and more powerful and they usually require less maintenance. If I did a lot of wet mud runs, I'd be brushless for sure. Now I have brushless and brushed crawlers of all kinds of ranges. For a trail truck it will be brushless and the better I get at driving down low and really crawling, the more I like brushed. Not sure if that helps any but that's some of my thoughts on the subject.

@gonncalomariamonteiro4176 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC thank you.

@shadow7796 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to have seen the Magnum as well but a great comparison for sure. The Reedy Radon line is a bit better than the stock I think. But it would be cool to see where my 11t Magnum falls in at.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I only have two magnums and they are at home in Optimus 3 and Myolnir

@kravenkrawlhobby5438 3 жыл бұрын

Holmes Hobbies is my all time always go to motor.

@RC_Ludz_N_Co 2 жыл бұрын

First of all, i wanna say thank you for all your videos, learning so much, it's a real pleasure and so helpful. Now here my trouble, i'm looking for THE ideal brushed motor, but i thought the more the T the slowest it is, then 27T/35T would be the way to go for pure crawling. But in you videos (and in the comments), seems everyone's loving this series of 10T, and to be honnest technically i don't really get it. If you could help me with that, thanks in advance.

@ExocagedRC 2 жыл бұрын

hey buddy, these ar 5-slot motors, so the are about 1/2 the speed of a 3-slot normal motor, this is why they work so well. Basically you put 3 shots of power in a 3 slot to get one revolution but it take 5 shots of power to get the same revolution so its slower and start up is usually smoother. Hope that helps

@RC_Ludz_N_Co 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC , got it. Thanks a lot for the super fast reply.

@patc8653 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a comparison with the 5 slot Reedy Radon 2 motors.

@517rctrailcrawling 3 жыл бұрын

Love it! Great video bro! 🔥🔥🔥💯✅

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

thanks!

@TheAurabell 2 жыл бұрын

I have 3 CP pro 10t,s. love those motors

@timle1286 3 жыл бұрын

On the CrawlMaster Sport motor, is the front bearing pressed fit into the output shaft?

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

it was on there pretty good, I'd have to say it could be either way on that.

@paulschryer9571 2 жыл бұрын

- I have the Crawlmaster Sport 12T, and I "really" like it... A LOT !!!! 🤘😎👌 - Best $20, I ever spent !!! 😉

@nobudgetrc6063 Жыл бұрын

I changed out all the stock electronics on my ecto……..hw 1080, crawl master sport 13t, Savox servo and a nicer radio…….big difference

@ed0c 2 жыл бұрын

i have 10turn 550 sport. i LOVE IT. dood gear down too, go down to like 12-10tooth pinion can pull a car on 3s lmao

@johngray8798 2 жыл бұрын

Any chance you would share the settings you have chosen on the HW1080? Thanks

@davidpigg3942 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't mind seeing a side-by-side comparison with the 10 t crawl master in the 8 t

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

hmmm interesting, I'll have to find another 10t LOL but I think I have an 8t in the bin.

@mikebird8290 3 жыл бұрын

VERY INTERESTING VIDEO SIR.

@TangoOne 2 жыл бұрын

Brushless is cool and all, but for me nothing beats the feel of a hand wound brushed motor. I don't need my crawler to go more than 8mph, I have a nitro buggy for that. On my pro motor I always pull the end bell off and spray out all the dirt and copper then wipe the commutator with a alcohol swab. My brushes seem to last forever on my Crawlmaster Pro 13t

@latefangs423 2 жыл бұрын

how is the 14t reedy faster then the 10t crawlmaster sport, should it higher turn mean slower speed?

@paulschryer9571 3 жыл бұрын

(1:05) I guessed 7.6 !! Man, was I close.....pretty darn close !!!! 😲😁🤘👍

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

😀😀

@TacticalMatt. 3 жыл бұрын

Hey what thumb wheel do you have attached to your flysky? I just bought one and I don’t like the one I purchased:/ yours looks perfect

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I recently did a whole video on one handed driving, I have links to everything in the description as well as links to the thingiverse page to print your own.

@mnmvuk 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video as usual! Can I ask where you got that thumb steer adapter for your GT5?

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I printed it from a file on thingiverse

@thomasvanderpool4735 2 жыл бұрын

I had terrible luck with the stock electronics in my gatekeeper. Bought the gatekeeper brand new, the servo burned up for seemly no reason the second time I ever used it and fried the reciever somehow in the process. The 5 or 6 time out the motor died. Never had taken it in the water or mud. Gave me a great excuse to upgrade the electronics right away haha

@ExocagedRC 2 жыл бұрын

My servo is still alive in Thor. The stock motor and esc had to go. They are not very good

@gabrielguadarrama8701 3 жыл бұрын

I’m still running the stock axial brushed motor on my version of the superlite 😂 Which one of these motors would you recommend to use with the tgh 2.low?

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I've never had that but possibly a 16t 540 size CM Sport or one of the higher end ones like a torque master.

@gabrielguadarrama8701 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC K I’m getting that. I like 540s. Let me know when you would have time To drive my trx4 go through the nasty.

@WillB.6759 2 жыл бұрын

Reedy is pricey over the crawlmaster sport, glad I choose the crawlmaster lol. Sweet!!!!

@motojoe5421 3 жыл бұрын

Went from a HH trail master 21 turn 550 to a HH crawl master 8 turn 550 the drag brake is night and day stronger crawl master than the trail master when using the crawl master on a heavy Gen 7 it makes a big difference when crawling. Great video by the way, what voltage were you running ? 3s is what I am running.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

yeah 3s always in my crawlers

@67smit 2 жыл бұрын

I have the same radio and I don't know how to use it right or what it means on it specifically for a crawler can you make a video on how to use it all the ways that you can thanks

@just_inolredneck8319 3 жыл бұрын

I love my 16t hh crawlmaster pro in tha capra. I do need to go n with the program card and turn on the drag brake..

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

if you have a 1080 it should have came with a programmer

@just_inolredneck8319 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC it did I just have been lazy and haven’t changed the setting

@jcbaja404 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video!!! How would the Holmes compare to the Reedy Radon 2 Crawler 550 10T 5-Slot 2270 KV?

@ExocagedRC 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t know about that reedy motor.

@MangoJim90 2 жыл бұрын

I definetly wanna try CrawlMaster Sport 550 8T in my 10 scale axle Monster Truck and in Wheely King also. Time to try smth better than chipo aliexpress stuff. Thanks!!!

@ChiefRickyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Whats the best Axial rtr scale crawler under 300? I have a JL SCX24 that needs a big brother

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

probably the current model scx10.3

@ChiefRickyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Okay its in the shopping cart.. how about under 200?

@vinceruland9236 3 жыл бұрын

Don't look overlook the Tekin motors. I have a 12t in my trx4 and it has gobs of torque. They're not a popular company as they were in the past but they make quality stuff 👍👍

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had the Tekin a before. Really good motors. I had a 45t that was awesome and stayed cool on 4S.

@MikelangeloPhoto 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the Pro will be smoother than any of them... making crawling experience overall better. Great vid.

@ChiefRickyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Whats the fastest brushed 540ish motor that you know of? I have a 979b in a serious speed war with a 45.5mph 2s VATOS Spirit Q901.. any help 🙏

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

The really fast brushed motors are almost part of history now, its all brushless for speed, just find one that has a low turn count and it should be good. 9t or something if you can find them.

@ChiefRickyRC 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC I see sure go like 9t then bump the gear ratio up. Thanks🙏

@romper4444 Жыл бұрын

In my experience, the reedy motors are way better than the titan. But I haven't ran these 5-slot armature reedy crawler motors. I think if your looking to have speed and good crawling, the reedy is the best option, and it's not like it crawled badly right? I though it looked very smooth, no? You should have a look at Reedys 10t 550 rebuildable 5-slot motor. That'd be my go to. I love the radon 2 540 15t for bashing, wish they did a 10t or 12t 3 slot rebuildable 550, or a 12t 540 rebuildable. Fast!

@javyjav1977 7 ай бұрын

How you get yours to go so straight?!?!?

@joeboisselle6856 3 жыл бұрын

Ok . You seem like a person that would answer my ? . I just got done with scale build . Just got into the hobby 4 years age . Jumped rite in . Don't know much about motors I guess . I put a 55 t in it and it don't have to much power . I would rather have power than speed . What should I have ? Mine is a rs-540 tuned machine modified. Looks like snow panther hobby is the name of it. I have a planitary gear trans and a separate transfer case . I did that to keep from cutting up the body . Remember it's my first build . I'm just now putting some roll bars in it . I will have a video of it very soon . Thanks for your time. P.s. what do you think about the redcat short corse truck ? . I have the pro .

@scottishrc7857 3 жыл бұрын

It would have been good to see how one of the Surpass Hobby 5 slot 550's would have compared to these ones as well.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I've done a 5slot 10t Surpass and it ran really good, the insides were a little less on things like laminate but it did good for me.

@FaithSaraG 3 жыл бұрын

I had a 10 turn Surpass, the armature came unwound in 15 minutes.

@scottishrc7857 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC I seem to remember that vaguely but i can't remember what motor it was compared to. I'll need to search and re-watch.

@scottishrc7857 3 жыл бұрын

@@FaithSaraG That sucks. Maybe just unlucky. They're far from being the best motors for sure, but they used to be good value for me. I've been running a 12t 550 on 4s in my Bronco for quite a while now and no issues with it dying.

@FaithSaraG 3 жыл бұрын

@@scottishrc7857 It wasn't a total loss. I took the armature and magnets from a HH 10 turn Crawlmaster Sport that had a worn out bushing and put it in the Surpass can to make a Frankenmotor.

@lowrider181 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like I'm going to have to replace me reedy motor!

@ExocagedRC 2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@weschambers7612 Жыл бұрын

This is why I love holmes

@chrispalusak7725 3 жыл бұрын

Joe are you runing your ryft with brake calipers on.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

@TOYitCUTE 3 жыл бұрын

i hope to see another tire test soon

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a few, The different compounds now makes it difficult.

@old-rcplane-phart 3 жыл бұрын

#1 today! 👍😁😁😁🥇

@zonegamma8197 3 жыл бұрын

holmes so good motors!

@troysawyers9781 Жыл бұрын

Not sure is comparing a 550 to a 540 is the best comparison.

@mishmasta 3 жыл бұрын

Swapping to a 10T Crawlmaster Sport in my Gen8 totally changed the rig for the better...even with the stock ESC. Holmes definitely got the formula right with the Sport line. I have been eyeballing the Pro as an upgrade for the sake of upgrading, but this review makes me think I should just hold off for a Revolver and the new Crawlmaster ESC instead.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

I just recorded the Crawlmaster mini esc and an 1800 revolver in the Ecto. Man I like it!

@mishmasta 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC I would love to see a comparison back to the Sport and Pro brushed motors.

@ezboyrc553 3 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison test. You got a awesome course Is that just for you or do you hope competitions there? And I wish you could send me the motors you took apart I would put them back together I need one bad. I have a small RC channel check it out if you get a chance. I just built a truck for my handicapped brother out of donated parts people have gathered for me But his motor is going out. And thanks for the good content I've learned a lot from your videos over the years

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

yeah those are long gone now. these CM Sports are really cheap at about $22.

@ezboyrc553 3 жыл бұрын

@@ExocagedRC ok thanks buddy I'm going to pick up a couple

@reddeerrebelrc6674 3 жыл бұрын

Wrong Reedy to be testing fairly. Reedy Radon 16t 5 slot

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Well it’s what was in the truck.

@rezzrollinrc 3 жыл бұрын

Team brood ✊🏽👊🏽

@jonthomas8487 3 жыл бұрын

The Team Brood motor is identical to the Surpass Hobby crawler motor

@FaithSaraG 3 жыл бұрын

Running "pro" style motors on a trail truck is a waste of money. Motors without a fan are not a good fit for trail use. With no fan, the motor gets hot and stays hot. Not a big deal on a competition crawler with a time limit, but a multi hour trail session will cook a fancy "pro" motor.

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Good points.

@romper4444 Жыл бұрын

If it's geared correctly you'll never need a fan, I never have

@TheLilhulk1111 2 жыл бұрын

Sport all day

@dirtrider88 Жыл бұрын

i cant beleive you can buy a really good brushed motor for 1/10 crawler for the same or even less $ than a mediocre brushed motor for a 1/24 crawler

@romper4444 Жыл бұрын

It's just the production volume of the runs of motors they make for that size is so smaller that it costs more to produce them. 1/24 scale crawling is a niche market and it will come and go in popularity pretty quickly.

@shawnbyrnesrccrawlersrccra2911 3 жыл бұрын

Mr reedy won't l ikme this video 😆😆😆

@ExocagedRC 3 жыл бұрын

Probably not but it is what it is

@joshrichie9833 3 жыл бұрын

Will never buy another Holmes product again

@scottishrc7857 3 жыл бұрын

Why not?

@HolmesHobbies 3 жыл бұрын

He's mad he got a non waterproof servo wet and it stopped working and we won't give him a freebie.

@HolmesHobbies 3 жыл бұрын

We do have a scrap trade in program now but I'm guessing he wouldn't use it on the principle of the matter.

@joshrichie9833 3 жыл бұрын

You got it all wrong mr Holmes . I don't need ur freebie I put 777 servos in all my rigs after your servos that are not trail ready

@scottishrc7857 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshrichie9833 You still haven't answered why you won't use another Holmes product. Seems a bit silly to get a non waterproof servo wet, then blame the seller because you didn't use it correctly.