Brushless vs Brushed: WLToys 104002 vs WLToys 104001 1/10 4WD High Speed RC Cars

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Nordic RC Visions

Nordic RC Visions

Жыл бұрын

Which one to pick? Brushless or Brushed? Top speed test, run and table top comparison with the WLToys 104002 (Brushless) vs WLToys 104001 (Brushed) 1/10 4WD High Speed RC Car! They sure both have advantages and disadvantages.
Watch the same comparison with the 1/12 WLToys 124019 and 124017 here: • WLToys 124017 vs 12401...
The WLToys 104002, 104001 and the SkyRC Speed Meters that I use were all kindly provided by Banggood, free for review and tests. You can check out the technical specifications and current prices with these (affiliate) links:
WLToys 104002 (Brushless): www.banggood.com/Wltoys-10400...
WLToys 104001 (Brushed): www.banggood.com/Wltoys-10400...
SkyRC GSM-020 Speed Meter: www.banggood.com/SKYRC-GSM020...
SkyRC GSM-015 Speed Meter: www.banggood.com/SKYRC-GSM-01...
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To sum up the differences:
WLToys 104001:
- 40 kph (25 mph) Top Speed
- Brushed Motor
- 2-in-1 ESC/Receiver
- 5-Wire Servo
- No Throttle Delay on the Radio Version 1 (but perhaps shorter range)
- Lower price
WLToys 104002:
- 58 kph (36 mph) Top Speed
- Brushless Motor
- Separate ESC and Receiver
- 3-Wire Servo
- Throttle Delay on the Radio Version 2 (but perhaps longer range)
- Higher price
Visually they differ in color:
- body
- wing
- wheels
- shocks
- chassis side guards
- radio steering wheel
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#NordicRCVisions Statement:
This video features homemade footage of my own #RcCar #WLToys #WLToysrccar #WLToys104001 #WLToys104002 from my personal #RC collection. All rights reserved.
All #RcCars and RC parts in this video are hobby-grade and intended for adults and ages +14 years.

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@MarkBryanRC
@MarkBryanRC Жыл бұрын
Hi Mikael, I hope you and your family are well! It was great to see the kids in the video - Jr is growing and is now an expert RC driver! Ah, the cars! Great comparison and testing, I enjoyed the run in the sand and grass! Lovely to see your daughter at the end, wow how time flies! Have a smashing weekend there, mate! :))
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark! Both yours and Pete’s comment escaped me on this video. Might be a KZfaq glitch I think. But better late than never: thank you! And yeah, I think he’s a better driver than me already. And the little girl is loving the RC’s too. She got two of her own now. Drives them with only the throttle ☺️
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hope your weekends were good!
@PugsRTheBest.Period
@PugsRTheBest.Period Жыл бұрын
Great video! You should make the next one have metal music in it like your WLToys 124019 v.s. 124017 video! I LOVED that video. There's just something special about these little cars, especially when there's some heavy tunes in the background! Keep up the great work. 👍
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Thank you James! Yeah I like to watch a good video with some rock ‘n’ roll /metal added too. But it’s also good to change the tunes now and then so the videos are r too similar ☺️
@PugsRTheBest.Period
@PugsRTheBest.Period Жыл бұрын
@@NordicRC Totally!
@madsrcbuggy
@madsrcbuggy Жыл бұрын
What a nice and complete video for someone just about to buy one of these, really clear comparisons. I started getting a bit hooked on those racing style buggies again, but I just (over) spent my budget on a Tamico haul, nothing special, just a bit of Tamiya parts, ha ha!
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, Mads! I know it! Usually my Tamico hauls, with just bits and parts, drain my entire RC budget so I haven’t got anything left for new cars 😅 it’s sometimes amazing how the price for a box full of mainly 5-20 euro parts gets astronomical high at check out 😊
@PeteWylieRC
@PeteWylieRC Жыл бұрын
Hiya Mikael. Ooh I was going to say definitely the brushless one is best but that transmitter delay is too annoying. It's odd as they look the same. A duff unit maybe? Good to get your boy driving a car so we can see them run together. Great review and run video my friend. Hope all is well with you and yours 🙂
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hi Pete! Somehow your comment escaped me! Thanks a lot for watching my friend. Yeah, it’s a new and different version. Should have better range but it seems they created an even greater problem along the way. And yeah, we had so much fun. Hope all is well in England too.
@JF-RC
@JF-RC Жыл бұрын
Hi there and excellent side by side comparison brushless vs brushed. The transmitter delay, did you work out where the delay was coming from? You show the transmitter being paired to the delayed one, so I assume it was the ESC? Take care and best wishes to you and the family 😊😉😁
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hi John! Thank you! Definitely the transmitter itself. Both receivers and ESCs’ seem fine. The delay is only there when they are bound to the new Transmitter version with the blue wheel. It should have better range though, or so they say, but it also seems it’s coming with a new (and worse) problem . Best to you and yours too John !
@gillian9178
@gillian9178 Жыл бұрын
Thats why I went with the 104001 roller & upgraded carbon top deck brace, better fitting own electrics & radio for a much faster & better driving experience than the brushless 104002 rtr.
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea! Might not even be that much more expensive
@Sideshowgaz5779
@Sideshowgaz5779 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for creating. Did you try binding the 104001 transmitter to the 104002 car to see if the delay disappears?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hi bro! Yeah, I do remember something about that. Got another video where I might have done that. Definitely something with the new blue-wheel long-range transmitter.
@Sideshowgaz5779
@Sideshowgaz5779 Жыл бұрын
@@NordicRC cheers dude. Appreciate the reply
@BangForYourBuckRc
@BangForYourBuckRc Жыл бұрын
2 very awesome versions of these cars from WLTOYS ! Excellent video my friend!
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot my friend!
@WhiteMafia170
@WhiteMafia170 Жыл бұрын
Hey can i have a request... Can you make a video about put A959-B motor to A959.. i really want to know what'll happen... I want to upgrade my A959 from 390 motor to 540 ( A959-B ) motor
@Manufalket
@Manufalket Жыл бұрын
Super like,,,, 🤩👍
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@Nlangkirby135
@Nlangkirby135 Жыл бұрын
If you can find a similar brushless system for the 104001, replace the 5 wire servo to a 3 wire servo and a good transmitter with separate receiver… they both would be even in terms of performance.
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick. Yeah, basically the same car besides the electronics. Not entirely sure if the spur and pinion is different too though.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to fix that fan?
@kilroywashere9678
@kilroywashere9678 Жыл бұрын
Is the power delay due to it being unsensored brushless?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Hi bro. No, nothing to do with gearing or cogging issues. It can be eliminated with another radio.
@mongulyo
@mongulyo 7 ай бұрын
Se le podría quitar el retraso de transmisión de alguna manera ??
@RinkaiKouen
@RinkaiKouen 2 ай бұрын
Creo que si usas el mando de la versión con escobillas no tiene retraso.
@Nlangkirby135
@Nlangkirby135 Жыл бұрын
My 104001 replace the 14t 550 motor with an Injora 20t 540 motor. It’s already performed slightly better than the default motor even on stock gearing.
@Nlangkirby135
@Nlangkirby135 Жыл бұрын
Now if only I had a better body and wing for my 104001…
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Nice. Sounds like a good upgrade. Don’t really need a 550 motor in 1/10 I agree.
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
I kinda like the 104001 body and wing ☺️
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
But there's still a lot of differences between them isn't there besides a motor?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
All the electronics. But basically that’s it. Maybe the spur and pinion too but I haven’t checked.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
When you jump the brushless version it looked like it had a very unbalanced wheel because it just wobbled a lot.
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if I remember correctly a couple of wheel nuts had come lose on the run near the beach
@PeterBudai
@PeterBudai 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Yes, wltoys used brushless ESC are crap! Brushed versions are cheaper and still better because of good throttle responsivenes.
@NordicRC
@NordicRC 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the throttle response is definitely better on the old ones
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
Which one is being driven by you and who's driving the other one?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
My son and me ☺️
@filipipenamaia
@filipipenamaia Жыл бұрын
So the 104001 transmitter has no delay while the 104002 does?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Yes! Exactly!
@filipipenamaia
@filipipenamaia Жыл бұрын
@@NordicRC Explain to me please: 0 104002 has the advantage of being brushless but has the disadvantage of having transmitter delay? That's it? Omg, what a mess!
@filipipenamaia
@filipipenamaia Жыл бұрын
I have two 10 year olds and would like to buy them the 144001 and a better Buggy for me, bigger, brushlees, both Wltoys. Which one would you recommend for me? I don't want delay on any of the three RC's. I speak from Brazil and follow your channel!
@romper4444
@romper4444 Жыл бұрын
I think your better off with the brushed version, the brushless one is pretty lackluster unless it accepts 3s lipo? I ordered mine for $160 all in and that's Canadian dollars too! So I think it would be more cost effective on performance per dollar to buy brushed and a cheap 60amp combo from Amazon for 50 bucks and that would probably do wonders! but that only applies if you have extra receivers u can throw in as u loose the receiver with that 2in1 crap. Or maybe if the brushless models ESC can handle a hotter motor for more power on 2s? Anyone know the specs or what brand of ESC is in those cars? The brushed model seems to have plenty of torque so maybe could handle a 2 to 3 tooth bigger pinion with no real loss in acceleration? And get much closer to brushless speeds? All things I will try and report back when mine comes in the mail in a few days! Before swapping to brushless I will definitely try a 3s lipo with a low C rating and see if that 2in1 ESC will handle it! Great buy and comparison video none the less! 👍🏼(Oh and just a tip I seen in another video, apparently the fan only runs when temps require it?)
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Good points! But I also think there are other benefits from the brushless system than top speed (like battery consumption). Don’t think it needs more power or torque, for the everyday off road run. But yeah, price seems pretty steep compared to the brushed version, don’t it?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Uhh, good tip about the fan! Maybe it’s not broken at all.
@killergayo
@killergayo Жыл бұрын
💪🤝👏👏
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for watching, bro!
@darthwoopv573
@darthwoopv573 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have more room for a bigger battery, I've noticed🤔
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
It’s okay for the stock run - just bring more batteries ☺️
@DailyStreamerCutss
@DailyStreamerCutss Жыл бұрын
wltoys really loves doing buggies huh
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I guess they’re selling good ☺️
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
3000 milliamp pack is a little taller.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
That's your newest child isn't it how old is she now?
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
That’s my oldest son ☺️ He’s 7 years old now.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
Both have the same tires.
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@camrowdrone6497
@camrowdrone6497 Жыл бұрын
😁Brushless and a dumbork rc , more range more speed
@NordicRC
@NordicRC Жыл бұрын
Yeah, would be a good cheap combo. Not sure it would produce more speed but definitely no latency.
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