Brutal British Rule & Destruction of India By Sandeep Balakrishna

Brutal British Rule & Destruction of India By Sandeep Balakrishna | Abhijit Chavda Podcast 42

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Sandeep Balakrishna is a prominent Indian historian and author, known for his writings on Indian history, culture, and Hindu civilization. Over two decades, he has contributed significantly to the discourse on Indian heritage through his articles, essays, and books. He is also the founder and chief editor of The Dharma Dispatch, a platform dedicated to exploring Indian philosophy and history. Some of his notable works include "Tipu Sultan: The Tyrant of Mysore," "Invaders and Infidels: From Sindh to Delhi: The 500-Year Journey of Islamic Invasions," and "10 Lessons from Hindu History in 10 Episodes." Balakrishna has also translated S.L. Bhyrappa's controversial Kannada novel "Aavarana" into English, further showcasing his literary skills.
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Sandeep Balakrishna is an Indian author, columnist, and public speaker known for his insightful writings on Indian history, culture, and politics. Balakrishna's work often delves into the complexities of Indian society, aiming to promote a deeper understanding of its rich heritage. Through his written and spoken words, he continues to engage audiences and spark discussions on important matters shaping the nation's identity and future.
Dive deep into the annals of history with our latest video, where we sit down with the eminent historian and author, Mr. Sandeep Balakrishna. In this thought-provoking conversation, we embark on a fascinating journey through time, beginning with the seismic impact of the British invasion and the subsequent downfall of the illustrious Mughal Empire.
Our discussion delves into the intricacies of the British invasion, examining the profound changes wrought upon the Indian subcontinent during this period. Together with Mr. Balakrishna, we unravel the layers of history, shedding light on the nuanced alterations imposed by the British rulers and their lasting effects on the cultural, social, and political fabric of India.
This conversation isn't merely a retelling of historical events; it's an immersive experience that bridges the gap between the past and the present. Through Mr. Balakrishna's expertise, we gain a deeper understanding of India's rich heritage and the forces that have shaped its modern identity.
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Timestamps
00:00-00:43 Introduction
00:43-39:40 What changes did the British make that contributed to our mental colonisation?
39:41-55:48 How do we address the root cause of mental colonisation?
55:49-56:08 End
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@roguegamer2020 6 ай бұрын

Hindu Muslim unity is a myth. Absolutely great statement.

@rakesh_s_c 6 ай бұрын

Desh ke tukde huye tab to bjp nhi thi😅😅😅 ye sale muslims bolte bjp ki wajah se hindu muslims ho rha h

@hinduwarrior123 6 ай бұрын

We Hindus are just tolerating this crap ; that's all!

@Nilz-ie8li 5 ай бұрын

How can you have unity with a religion that encourages and teaches separation at its core.

@studytime2570 5 ай бұрын

ccp bot spotted.

@faisal.comilla.98 4 ай бұрын

So true. Hindus have always been brutal. They kill other people for eating beef. Who are they to regulate other peoples food choices?

@anantbhushangaur1972 6 ай бұрын

A podcast with J Sai Deepak needed Abhijit ji 🙏

@When-Teja-talks 6 ай бұрын

Also with pushpendra kulshrestha

@ManasiCSE 6 ай бұрын

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@krishnaprayaga3984 6 ай бұрын

@@When-Teja-talks²

@kshilendumohanta3044 6 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉

@AnandBhadouriya3 6 ай бұрын

Indeed i have been asking it for ages now

@djacharya 6 ай бұрын

"Duties to be given to good people not just qualified people." Excellently put Sir 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

@karandullet380 6 ай бұрын

Even Chankya in Arthshastra said "treaties are ment to be broken" why didn't our kings learn from that will always remain a mystery for me for ages to come how can someone in power be so Naive

@cosmopessoa7195 6 ай бұрын

That is why the indian ruling class is now the groom of the british stool, and the chinese fear the Indians, because they have lost their cultural moorings

@MSA8512 6 ай бұрын

What an honor less man Chanakya was!

@abi-wg4jt 6 ай бұрын

@@MSA8512 he is the most honorable man

@MSA8512 6 ай бұрын

@@abi-wg4jt snakes are not honorable just deceitful

@shankar1dynamo694 6 ай бұрын

Chanakya said Sandhi- making pledges so it can be kept. He also said dvaidibhav- alliance with one country while fighting other. Dont misquote

@cocophonix 5 ай бұрын

I am a big fan of Sandeep Balakrishna ji. His talk on Mopla riots is a must watch. Great research work Sandeep ji. More power to you. Thank you for great show Abhijit ji

@anantbhushangaur1972 6 ай бұрын

It's so funny when West criticise BHARAT for human rights issues 😂

@nitinshooter 6 ай бұрын

Thats their way to influence the ways and outcome according to their whims and fancies. Yeah its indeed funny and hypocritical.

@raphk9599 6 ай бұрын

Which part of the west? All of the west?

@risthedevil 6 ай бұрын

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@maxyogi 6 ай бұрын

'Criticize the other of Exactly what you do.'

@vaibhavgaikwad3555 6 ай бұрын

@@nitinshooterHYPOCRITE WEST!!

@Hondaman2318 6 ай бұрын

Beautiful conversation. I had the pleasure of meeting the descendant of King Naba Krishna Deb (Nava Kishen Sen) in Kolkata, we had an interesting conversation about history of his forefathers and how his Raj Bari was used as Treasury by the British. He said the same thing, his ancestors viewed the British initially as saviors from the tyranny so that Hindus can worship freely. He also stated that his subsequent generations had invited Swami Vivekananda after his triumphant return from Chicago and the place where he gave the speech is still marked in his house. It is Shova Bazaar Raj Bari in Calcutta where all these events happened. Any student of Bharat should visit the place

@ass6639 6 ай бұрын

You missed Raja Krishnachandra and Saborno Roy's of behala and also Rani Rashmoni who played major roles in contemporary politics

@Prussianrider 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely profound & inspiring talk, appreciation & thanks to both of you. Until the recent past, I would pride myself on my English language communication skills, now I feel it is a matter of shame & regret that I have neglected our own languages like Sanskrit, Kannada, Telugu & Tamil. I will try to rectify this huge failing.

@cosmopessoa7195 6 ай бұрын

That is why the indian ruling class is now the groom of the british stool, and the chinese fear the Indians, because they have lost their cultural moorings

@tintunbirha 6 ай бұрын

आप अभी से शुरू कर दीजिए। जैसे मैं शुरू किया हूं।

@Prussianrider 6 ай бұрын

Ab meri Hindi bahut sudhar gayi hai, bahut aasani se kayi YT Hindi channels dekhta hoon, 1.75 play back speed pe. Sanskrit bhasha seekh ne ki tamanna hai, kuch kitab kharid liya, woh bhi ho jayega.Dhanyawaad.@@tintunbirha

@ramaswamykumaraswamy9990 5 ай бұрын

It's OK. As English is an International language it's a necessity but always give your 1st importance to your mother tongue and latter to other languages.

@haricharan9852 5 ай бұрын

I feel the same way as you.😢

@globaldesikan 6 ай бұрын

Best ever podcast. I want more people to listen to this. No textbook can give you this amount of information and knowledge. Not just the happenings but the lessons from it. Sandeep avaru is an underrated gem of India

@manojkumarpoonia 6 ай бұрын

ऐसा बेहतरीन ज्ञान…वाह संदीप जी

@saurabhbhadoria3299 6 ай бұрын

Sandeep ji is great, keep bringing him to the podcast

@ShashiSingh-ct6ct 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks to Sandeep Balakrishna for revealing the truth of Hindu's misery

@kkalluri1 6 ай бұрын

Knowledge is power in the information era. Thanks for spreading the truth.

@rogerm4310 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the terrific presentation. It's the same worldwide, western and eastern. We would all be doing just great if we all had good people and only good people in power. India is not alone there. I hope one day that we all enjoy good leadership globally by good people and good people only.

@umamaheshsukamanchi 6 ай бұрын

Great conversation... In 1 hour, i learned what was happened in the past and how our culture was destroyed... Thanks to both legends... Please kindly make more videos on our history so young generation understands what our roots are..

@shwethagururaja6791 5 ай бұрын

People say falling in love I fell in love with Abhijith sir in Ranveer’s podcasts about history and now Sandeep sir in Abhijit sir’s podcast fell in love again. Thank you for all the information shared here. My son is in 4th standard and I have started telling our history definitely not the textbook one. You both are such an inspiration.

@jameammarijr.2248 6 ай бұрын

Amazing podcast, learnt many things, thank you Sandeep ji and Abhijeet ji

@sriharid6995 5 ай бұрын

Sandeep sir, you are one of the best historians that We have in India. You are chronological way of presentation of your speech is very commendable. 🙏🙏🙏

@bhumeshgupta432 6 ай бұрын

Really worth watching... Sandeep ji heartly respect for your knowledge on the subject is mind boggling.... salute

@MiniMafia19 4 ай бұрын

I finally was able to join the dots as to how our hibdu civilisation got taken over by Islamic invaders followed by the British ! They seemed like disjointed pieces of history before . Thank you to people like Sandeep ji and urself who have meticulously woven the tapestry of our history back together and enabled us to draw inspiration from the valour of our forefathers ❤️🇮🇳

@SphereOfTheEarth-uw2zh Ай бұрын

...and foremothers

@umeshkumari85 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic podcast about Real History 👏👏👏👏

@ManishVerma-lw7cu 6 ай бұрын

Best podcast I have seen till date on real in depth Indian history and psychology

@ravirajmahajankatti4691 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Sandeep sir for such an enlightening series. We have been long long colonized by the lost western mindset.

@jasrotiashamsingh770 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing glimpse of brutal history of India those forces are still active doing their best to squeeze benefits from Bharat. Sir keep it up

@hinduwarrior123 6 ай бұрын

I love Sandeep's narration! Abhijeet kindly invite him more often!

@hemanthsavasere8807 6 ай бұрын

The Mysore Wodeyars have given great contributions to the state of Karnataka and city of Bangalore/Bengaluru.

@a73366 3 ай бұрын

Abhijit and Sandeep, Thanks to both of you for such a thought-provoking discussion on such an important and vital topic. Though the subject is very very vast and just about one hour is nothing for such a topic, but still a beginning has been made and I sincerely hope this will not be the last piece on such a vital topic!

@iramtauqir5333 5 ай бұрын

The problem is not only widespread but deep rooted. You are spot on. I would add that it is the colonial mind set, a clerk's mentality, and not just language. That is the case with both India and Pakistan. We need to evolve our own autonomous intellect and sensitivities

@kumudaroy7607 4 ай бұрын

Shree Balakrishna, you are a great speaker, you are truthful and straight forward in your expressions, I admire your courage of conviction. All the best for your future ventures.

@dvfilmpk 2 ай бұрын

Bless you and Shri Sandeep Balakrishna for this illuminating discourse. I am gratefully educated. You have helped me see clearly the roots of our social crisis which to me are but the same in both Pakistan and India, accounting notwithstanding!

@devsharma3725 6 ай бұрын

Nice podcast like always 🗿

@vijaysharma7485 6 ай бұрын

Sir would like you to have a show on a concise chronology of hindu genocides from early history till the end of colonisation with the guest. The youth need to know Although broken in spirit our souls survived Jai Hind excellent show

@vinodiyer-wd4mm 6 ай бұрын

Such wonderful podcast sandeep sir abhjit sir❤

@swetacherukuri2075 6 ай бұрын

Very interesting conversation. Hope to hear more of such talks.

@adityatyagi4009 6 ай бұрын

This is a sobering discussion pertaining to the dire need for decolonization. Please cover this topic more in future episodes. Change for the better can happen rather quickly but only if we all do our bit.

@senturi9645 6 ай бұрын

So insightful ❤❤❤

@Moonrisephoenixx 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing this out in the world.

@soumyadip_69 6 ай бұрын

Great conversation ✌️, it's really true power needs to given to good people

@hemantkhanna66 6 ай бұрын

Also let’s all Indian meet and discuss day to day difficulties all Indians are facing and slowly we can change our country even a small persons idea we can change India 🌹🙏

@ramprakashj3762 6 ай бұрын

Simply superb sir

@JYOTIPANDA-xj2hv 6 ай бұрын

Great content, original thoughts & very insightful. 🙏🙏

@ass6639 6 ай бұрын

Sandeep ji a treat to hear

@karna_kayastha 5 ай бұрын

#askabhijit who are the kayasthas of India ? what is their history and how did they evolve into a class of literate bureaucratic and administrative professionals ?

@bhuvangowda7163 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing him back ❤❤❤

@rameshmuttur1236 6 ай бұрын

Very, very impressive story telling by Bala Ji. I admire Abhijitji for his way of conducting podcasts.

@servingpublic 6 ай бұрын

Great discussion to learn about colonial India. As always, appreciate the insights from Sandeep!

@ramanujamthatta1346 5 ай бұрын

So informative. Excellent. Heartfelt gratitude to Shri Balakrishna.

@sujatharb12 5 ай бұрын

Yes, I learnt a lot from this episode. Really, educational and motivational talk. Thanks to both of you.

@sun-161 6 ай бұрын

These are the facts that should be included in curriculums rather than the glossed over history that is being taught

@vithakre 4 ай бұрын

Very good background on the history of Indian colonialism 👍 real root cause analysis done

@mangalamurthy5010 6 ай бұрын

Profound enlightening eye-openers🙏🇮🇳

@drsonalyashwantpatil4572 4 ай бұрын

Loved the insight 🙏

@mitravasumagnus2064 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, mr abhijit.

@govindaaggarwal103 6 ай бұрын

Informative 👍

@ramadevilingaraju5375 6 ай бұрын

So interesting I learned so much! Thank you

@amjadsiddique7019 5 ай бұрын

Too goo too enlightened conversation Thanks

@arabindabhattacharjee424 6 ай бұрын

Yes we have Learnt a lot.Thank you.

@VamsiSir-AlphaMale 6 ай бұрын

i enjoyed and learned a lot.

@GK-gs1ke 6 ай бұрын

Interesting facts Know first time ! Thanks 🙏

@sridharanganesan Ай бұрын

Very neatly conducted....well done Abhijit sir.....sandeep Balakrishna rocks, as usual

@nadiyaveman5576 Ай бұрын

Sundeep sir earned a lot of respect and love today. Thanks for breaking this unbearable past so beautifully sir. We will start decolonising ourselves step by step ✨

@dipanjandash4485 6 ай бұрын

Excellent

@abczuchini3757 6 ай бұрын

Very nice video. Loved what he spoke about sanskaras in language. So true

@cosmopessoa7195 6 ай бұрын

That is why the indian ruling class is now the groom of the british stool, and the chinese fear the Indians, because they have lost their cultural moorings

@user-sh4gf5kj5k 6 ай бұрын

Very good conversation.

@jdb35 6 ай бұрын

Good video as always by this channel

@ujjwaldutta2934 6 ай бұрын

Wonderful podcast

@adityachaturvedi3978 4 ай бұрын

This was a wonderful podcast sir and I learned a lot from it, however I have suggestion if you may allow that, if you make podcast in Hindi I this we can address this issue to some extent. Reason being if great individuals like you don't bring forth this issue to nothing can't be done.

@adityachaturvedi3978 4 ай бұрын

I would like to request you sir to put up a question to one of the intellectuals, i.e., 1. What is the impact of reservation on our modern society and, to where it is taking us and, is any there a way out of it? 2. What is the history behind the caste system of India and was it present in the ancient times? Does this system was abused by the British and can we remove the damages done by this system?

@paarth870 Ай бұрын

One of the best series of podcasts... both this as well as the insight in Islamic Invasion... Hats off to both of you! Keep up the good work!

@manisaraswatula8999 6 ай бұрын

Wonderful podcast.. 👏🏻👏🏻 please bring Sai Deepak sir

@Canadamurali Ай бұрын

Fantastic interview

@bharatavarsha10k 6 ай бұрын

Such a great interation by two great minds. India should get rid of those eminent historians ASAP

@priyakishore8636 2 ай бұрын

A great insight into.our history from a person who dosent try to be politically correct. Very informative. A very good host Rare and refreshing that he didnt interrupt, didnt put across his views and knowledge but allowed a free flow of information from the guest❤

@nagbelad 6 ай бұрын

Excellent conversation between two of my favorite KZfaq personalities! As long as we retain our dharmic and religious practices in our homes, we still have a chance of decolonizing our minds. As mentioned we should learn and know where to keep English language and american behavior. It is like we say keep your chappals outside the mouse and dont bring them in. Soemtimes, it is distressing to see parents talking to their children in english and not in their mothertongue. We should keep correct, proper names for our children. They should learn our epics and be entertained by stories in them. We have lost much, but not to the extent of reclaiming much of it. We should make sure good people rooted in our culture and civilization get into key offices of power. Modi ji and many in his cabinet are good examples. Hope we keep it that way, at least for a few decades.

@cosmopessoa7195 6 ай бұрын

That is why the indian ruling class is now the groom of the british stool, and the chinese fear the Indians, because they have lost their cultural moorings

@govardankrishna8111 6 ай бұрын

Great advice.please also include freeing the Hindu temple 's😊👏👏👏🙏

@vibhordublish9914 6 ай бұрын

Excellent.

@SUBBUTUMKUR 6 ай бұрын

good analysis

@dvikauglaumishrauca 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely engrossing and knowledgeable, and eye opening podcast. Ended on a sad note seeing the present state of Bharata and English infestation 😞😞😞

@jayneela3077 3 ай бұрын

I love Sandeep and his explanation.👍🙏

@aryabhattacharya4890 6 ай бұрын

❤

@DhruvKumar-gy8kq 6 ай бұрын

Please do this type of podcast in hindi also

@sukumarhegde1767 6 ай бұрын

Nice ❤

@revannaprasad6977 2 ай бұрын

We tolerated cruelty and horrific violence for centuries

@AnujAgarwal_96 6 ай бұрын

Every British independence mention of India is incomplete without mentioning the activities and twitches of THE GREAT, ILLUSTRIOUS, INCREDIBLE, MAGNIFICENT, MAGNANIMOUS, SHRI SHRI NEHRU JI! (Let me know sir if I missed any adjectives, apart from couple of Shri’s) 😂😂😂 I lose it hysterically every-time when AC sir mentions our great Pandit ji in any of his videos.

@mahendradev2756 6 ай бұрын

NEHRU WAS A VILLIAN WHO DID HIS UTMOST TO DESTROY HINDUISM AND ITS CULTURE

@poornimawagh9315 6 ай бұрын

Here is another adjective to add to your list above: ARSEHOLE!

@cosmopessoa7195 6 ай бұрын

That is why the indian ruling class is now the groom of the british stool, and the chinese fear the Indians, because they have lost their cultural moorings

@robertmitchell8630 6 ай бұрын

Rofl lol 😆😄 Nah you covered it brother BTW I am 5th generation Christian But 500 generations of Sanatam Dharma Jai Hind Jai Shri Krishna So how did the Jewish psalmist king David wrote of India's plight thousands of years before Mughals Islamic hyenas and European colonials Christian criminals jackals invaded ? Psalms 34 19-22 Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord keeps and delivers him . Evil will destroy the wicked. Eight hundred years of Islamic hyenas invaders Portuguese Dutch British Christian criminals And every mosque got a crescent 🌙 moon yet not one single Islamic nation got their flag on the moon ? World War one and two is the EVIL that destroyed the wicked European colonials Christian criminals And now we are witnessing Kabul to Karachi Mecca to Marrakesh the self mutilation and self destruction of Islam ??? How did King David predicted Hindu history? He's describing the Vedic civilization. Islam and Christianity decries pagans both are pagans thinly veiled in a sanitized version of monotheism.

@AnujAgarwal_96 6 ай бұрын

@@robertmitchell8630 Jai Hind brother. Take care of yourself.

@PSDeb 5 ай бұрын

When I went in search of origin of Durga puja in India to Shobha Bazar Kolkata. Raja (Title) Nobo Krishno Deb (title) was Bharadwaj Gotra and Kshatriya. Bharadwaj gotra was one of the seven Gotras sent by Vijay Nagar Kingdome in different direction to prevent conversion. Nabo Krishno Deb was the Zamindar of one of the three village which later became Kolkata. They took help of British to defeat Navab Sirajudoula and labeled as traitor. The first Samajik Durga puja was celebrated in 1757 for this occasion and Lord Clive was invited. Photographs of the occasion is there in the front room of the Raj Badi. But more interesting thing is the Devi Durga is not standing on Lian as usual but on a Horse in Shobha bazar. Probably the Horse and Devi Durga has some connection to Greek Warrior goddess Artimis or in 1757 Vahana (vehicle) of Devi was Horse as it changes every year.

@ashoknairkunnath8249 Ай бұрын

Great!

@arweyn1 6 ай бұрын

Abhijitji and Sandeepanna, I watched this again after the Jaipur Dialogues annual fest session on Education. I have made a choice for change for my 11 year old son, a few years ago. I have had him learn Sanskrita as a language and have been teaching him the Sanatana roots. I live in a foreign country, incidentally happens to be very very sanatani in values and language .. Thailand. It makes it rather hard for Satsangha, so we discuss the Mahabharata and Ramayana every evening. Now I make him tell me the main story and I add the upa-stories with more details. I have had him study the Jignasa course at Agastya Gurukulam that laid the foundations of how to learn Sanskrita. I had learnt Sanskrita in a Macaulayian education system which posed many learning issues. Using this base we do Mathematics, Bharatiya Sanskriti, Jyotishya (Astronomy, stellar positions) etc. I have also started teaching him the skills - life skills, cooking, growing plants, observing the lunar positions, using Stellarium to understand our Nakshatra system, using Rajju Ganita for practical geometry etc. It is a great experience. At the same time I have a fear that this may not be good for his future. Listening to you again, Sandeepanna's word "It may not succeed, but it shall certainly not fail" - paraphrased gives me abit more confidence. Moreover, without sacrifices and effort how can we even hope to succeed? There are a lot more metheds available today and hardest to find is the courage and willpower. Dhanyavaadah and pranaams to both of you and anyone who reads this.

@milindphatak2150 6 ай бұрын

How can you forget the maratha might present 5hroghout India ?

@sreehari3127 4 ай бұрын

4:30 Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you so much for saying that

@akshanshvishwakarma1875 5 ай бұрын

after so much suffering hindus still not learned to unite we are more concern about our regional identity...we are gujrati,Tamil, kannad,Marathi,bihari,assami,chhatigariya,Bengali.....and we still cannot digest eachother and that's fact....we still divided by language,state, regional.we still don't have a mutual respect for each other we are so racist by calling each other....bihari( gawar)Tamil( idli sambhar,madrasi,kalu) Gujarati(baniya,lalchi) northeaster( momos, Chinese)Punjabi,Marathi(akdu),rajisthani....then we are divided in caste....we have only one the which unite use which sanatan,hindu......and I want to request to hindu we all are equal no one is supirior or inferior we all are equal....please please....awake sense of unity.... otherwise your dushmana has been giving slow death from very long time by cutting slowly slowly and you haven't noticed yet..... we haven't been learned after so much suffering

@kvapower3925 6 ай бұрын

always show maps in history discussions

@hariharancr2369 5 ай бұрын

As citizen we all must, must understand what is being said.

@sujayenator 6 ай бұрын

Dutch had built up there city named and styled as Fredricknagar near Calcutta. Later Dutch was bound to sell out the whole city to British which eventually extended strategic depth of British hegemony.

@laxmanchoudhary8346 5 ай бұрын

A request to Sandeep sir and chavda ji please enter politics ❤😊

@ramanujamthatta1346 5 ай бұрын

Dear Abhijit Chawda, 🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👏👏👏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

@maxyogi 6 ай бұрын

A really Beautiful, very valuable interview.

@praveenm6204 6 ай бұрын

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@OrichalcumHammer 6 ай бұрын

52:10 You are Wrong. You cannot have good people in corrupt system because there is observation which has become a law which states that a corrupt system will corrupt the good person overtime while similarly a good system will reform a corrupt person overtime.