Cody Schwab (Fox) vs Zain (Marth) - Melee Singles Grand Final

Cody Schwab (Fox) vs Zain (Marth) - Melee Singles Grand Final - Shine 2023

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10 ай бұрын

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@ernestomartinez1655 10 ай бұрын

Cody smiling on his last stock on game 5 went really hard tbh

@fupalover 10 ай бұрын

In the interview he said he thought he was up a stock the whole time.

@JairChavez-kg4tn 10 ай бұрын

Fox wining both Ultimate and Melee, in a series called shine. No better way to end the story.

@CaptainLobsterrr 10 ай бұрын

Spoiler duckhead

@ikilldpacman 10 ай бұрын

@@CaptainLobsterrrwhy would you go to the comments then

@CaptainLobsterrr 10 ай бұрын

@@ikilldpacman it was the first one showing up on the video for mobile you pus syhead

@CaptainLobsterrr 10 ай бұрын

I couldn't avoid reading it du mass the first words are FOX WINING straight up spoiler

@CaptainLobsterrr 10 ай бұрын

I DON'T EVEN LIKE MELEE THIS SHII SUCKS

@henryreturns1397 10 ай бұрын

Probably the set of the year , we went from double both Cody and Zain destroying each other with 3-Os into a Game 5 last stock , and last tournament game. THERE IS MUCH MORE MELEE TO BE PLAY !

@DarkWhatever91 10 ай бұрын

I think Leffen vs Cody is the set of the year but this is a pretty close second

@Myst1c_OW 10 ай бұрын

at which tourney?@@DarkWhatever91

@TheBeggies95 10 ай бұрын

Not best of the year since Fox won

@kupodrinksmilk 10 ай бұрын

@@DarkWhatever91 I have Jmook vs Zain at Collision for set of the year but hell, there are so many worthy sets to be #1 this year.

@Myst1c_OW 10 ай бұрын

cope@@TheBeggies95

@eddiestilll 10 ай бұрын

This is peak Melee, 2 doc kids that play the ubiquitous Fox vs. Marth MU, pushing the meta to its absolute limit even when everyone else thinks that it cannot be further optimized, while racing for #1 in a very mature meta for a 22 year old game. Zain and Cody are legends and this is fitting for the final Shine tournament.

@AlphaChopstick 10 ай бұрын

What is scary is Cody technically messed up a lot, I'm sure there were a ton of nerves involved though 😅

@KingPhilipsRideshare 10 ай бұрын

What is doc kids? People who saw the doc and were like “huh cool”

@DesTr069 10 ай бұрын

@@KingPhilipsRidesharebasically. The doc inspired many new players to pick up the game and join the competitive scene

@TreyMM-qz4wg 10 ай бұрын

This is the average ult set.

@Hellopleesh 10 ай бұрын

Zain definitely threw it away towards the end but great set nonetheless.

@danielsalter4649 10 ай бұрын

HMW is hands down one of the best parts of the melee community

@CreamyPesto505 10 ай бұрын

I'd argue the best commentator we've ever had.

@ExilixE 10 ай бұрын

I wish HMW & Scar would commentate every set. They have been there since the beginning

@nahor88 10 ай бұрын

@@CreamyPesto505 Easily, I think the only time his commentary bugged me was when Armada went YL against Hbox. All he could keep going on about is "this is so stupid". There was actually A LOT going on from a mindgames standpoint, if HMW could look beyond the characters not constantly interacting like he's used to. Almost wish they got a low tier main to commentate that set, cuz we're used to playing that battle of attrition to compensate for what strengths our characters lack.

@hibernate44 10 ай бұрын

@@nahor88it was stupid

@nahor88 10 ай бұрын

@@hibernate44 Your opinion; commentators are supposed to be unbiased, especially for a major tourney. HMW annoyed the fuck out of those of us actually intrigued by the match-up and game play. It was like watching chess on steroids, and I fucking loved it. If he couldn't say anything constructive, they should have gotten someone who would.

@RainWasTaken 10 ай бұрын

I might be a Zain fan but FUCK that was well deserved Cody

@DJprofessorK 10 ай бұрын

Yeah Zain did not make that easy. Huge win for cody

@lordgeki8863 10 ай бұрын

Zains Marth might be goated

@andrewferguson6901 9 ай бұрын

@@DJprofessorK my first thought after it ended was "DAMN zain made him play such a good set". there was no mercy, that fd m2k game wouldve broken most players. Cody really had to step it up to win and he played some of the best melee ever to do it. there was NO free space the entire time. absolutely unreal precision and speed and knowledge and preparation from both players. that walltech game looked literally like TAS stuff from the old times

@chroma09 10 ай бұрын

this set would kill a Victorian era child. Well done Zain and Cody

@Windraesa 10 ай бұрын

underrated comment 😅

@wilsonsecaur1015 10 ай бұрын

Cody putting on a huge grin going into his last stock of the last game at the last ever Melee set at Shine, then winning... something about it gives me goosebumps bruh

@emmbeesea 10 ай бұрын

This whole tournament was incredible, so many moments to be preserved. But to have this specific Grand Finals matchup for the last iteration of Shine, a tournament series known for its crazy moments, felt so poetic and right. Raising chairs, S2J stomping Plup through Stadium, lloD taking a game off Hbox with Peach for the first time, SFAT counterpicking M2K to FD, and Zain taking his first set off of Axe. And now, the clear #1 and #2 in the world duking it out with everything they had, Set 2, Game 5. May Melee live on for many, many years more. This game is beautiful.

@Force95042 10 ай бұрын

Wasn't this Zain's first major win in 2018, as well? Super hype grand finals where he showed he could beat Hbox for the first time

@jordandwiggins1026 10 ай бұрын

Am I crazy for my favorite Shine moment being Mekk vs Lucky last year? That was the set that got me back into being obsessed with Melee hilariously enough.

@PetiteGinger69 10 ай бұрын

Both melee and ultimate having a fox main win set 2 game 5 in the very last tournament that's called "shine" is poetic

@Frank7489 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the spoiler 😭

@jesiah391 10 ай бұрын

Dang bruh, ruined the set for me

@paulpallo5513 10 ай бұрын

@@jesiah391 What are you doing looking at comments before you watch a set? Someone is gonna spoil it. Never look at the time remaining in the video/never look at comments is the standard for watching any tournament. You played yourself

@nemi9217 10 ай бұрын

I don’t care if the scriptwriters got “lazy”, sometimes tropey writing is best writing

@jesiah391 10 ай бұрын

@@paulpallo5513 I mean half true, def true that someone is going to spoil no matter what and I should have averted my eyes, but not true I was looking at the comments lol. I wasn’t in the comments, there’s always one comment showing when you’re on mobile and that happened to be showing right under the video. 2 points to consider tho: 1. The comment is actually top tier, the way it played out is def poetic so I say it outweighs the spoil so np 2. I didn’t play myself I played you 🫵🤣

@kcoz 10 ай бұрын

cody has some of the best recoveries in the scene, the shine to fast fall recoveries he does off-stage is so interesting. such a good set and great commentary.

@Supertaldo916 10 ай бұрын

Zain and Cody are setting up to have one of the most memorable rivalries in Melee history. People tend to say that without Mang0 or Hbox the game would die out, but, man, if you ain’t watching Melee right now just because the old guard is slowly fizzling away, you are missing out on some awesome gameplay. I sure hope Amsa and Jmook start coming back into the form they should last year, because Cody, Zain and Leffen are starting to widen the gap from everyone else.

@eyvahehyeh8927 10 ай бұрын

Cody and Zain for sure seems s bit ahead of the pack, but Leffen? A bit more all over the place, even if he's had super good results as well.

@firelifeblizzard8782 10 ай бұрын

Yo shout out to leffen

@Dlord1PlayStation 10 ай бұрын

It's a bit weird to include Leffen when Jmook has more majors than him this year while Leffen barely went to anything to even have bad losses. E.g. imagine if jmook just went to the same amount of tournaments as leffen since the start or the year...people would still think he's top 2.

@Supertaldo916 10 ай бұрын

@@Dlord1PlayStation honest to god, your life on the line, would you bet on Jmook or Leffen to win a major with every top 50 player in attendance? Leffen's only lost to top 8 players + Joshman. Jmook has been losing to a lot of people outside of top 10 lately. While I do think Leffen's attendance should leave him out of any ranking, skill wise, Leffen is up there with Cody and Zain, imo. We could theorize how much more or less he would lose to people outside of top 10 if he attended more, but Leffen has a reputation of being extremely consistent.

@Dlord1PlayStation 10 ай бұрын

@Supertaldo916 That's a flawed question because 1. most people would have said jmook after Collision, which is my point. You know jmook is still ahead of Leffen in the rankings, right? Leffen wasn't close to jmooks consistency up until that point. Jmooks head to heads were a lot better than leffens last year. Most of these bad losses came from the last few tournaments, which is my point. Same could have happened for leffen if he went to more tournaments. Recall that leffen has been upset many times throughout his career before. 2. Even if I did choose leffen, this doesn't prove that there's as large a gap between them as zain and cody. If leff didn't win LACS5, he wouldn't have even been top 5 in the rankings. That's how small the gap is. So no, leffen has not done enough this year to prove he has a substantial gap over jmook. He could be higher seeding wise because his last tourney win was more recent, but that's it. I'm sure jmook will get out of his slump, as leffen and others have done. Let's wait and see.

@funkymag77 10 ай бұрын

Highest level of play I've ever seen in a set. Been watching since '14

@il100374 10 ай бұрын

Same

@mocha7952 10 ай бұрын

Same. Amazing. Amsa v Zain was pretty insane too though.

@GioHimonPro 10 ай бұрын

That smile on his last stock redeemed Cody for me. What a freaking set they played!! This game never looked more optimized.

@Amaling 10 ай бұрын

Redeemed? What was he doing that was bad?

@johnkramer2144 10 ай бұрын

@@Amalingthey probably are referring to all the stuff he says on his streams when he’s playing. A lot of times he comes off as toxic. Watch his online matches between him and KJH recently, it’s almost like he has beef. Me personally, I think he uses anger to motivate his progress.

@peashooter6628 10 ай бұрын

@johnkramer2144 kalindi and cody are good friends bruh, I assure you it's nothing serious

@SJB123heehee 10 ай бұрын

Badass from Cody fr

@johnkramer2144 10 ай бұрын

@@peashooter6628 Good, cause for the outsider layman, that session was intense.

@MrKing_MC 10 ай бұрын

The Ending Shine Deserved. What a fantastic Grand Finals from both Zain and Cody.

@ziggensgames 10 ай бұрын

Saw it front row and will never forget it. Great grand finals, what a show!

@snared_ 10 ай бұрын

so jealous man, what a great performance!!

@CSharp__ 10 ай бұрын

this was my first major ever, holy smokes man i couldn't agree more

@JtCoronaOnTheMic 10 ай бұрын

Shine left it’s best for last! It was an absolute blast screaming from the second row all night. Shine will live forever

@peeron6829 10 ай бұрын

Im sry im not that informed but why is it the last shine event? :(

@JtCoronaOnTheMic 10 ай бұрын

These things aren’t cheap to run unfortunately

@wusstunes 10 ай бұрын

First time melee just straight up made me smile in while

@Lioni177 10 ай бұрын

What an all-time set, instant classic

@TheTWolf89 10 ай бұрын

Instantly became one of the most iconic and legendary sets in Melee history. Between the amazing competitors, the commentators, and the crowd, this was so hype! Was rooting so hard for Zain but Cody played out of his mind, huge props to him!

@Cam101077 10 ай бұрын

That may have been the most advanced, skillful match of melee I have ever seen. Amazing

@CaptainFalchion 10 ай бұрын

Incredibly clutch by Cody!! He’s so good at the Marth matchup… Man what a grand finals, what a perfect intense finish to the Shine series. The first and only spacie to win Shine

@adamquenano8563 10 ай бұрын

Two Spacies Shined at the last tournament

@samkittredge7353 10 ай бұрын

Winners into the was some of the best Melee I’ve ever witnessed. Both were playing so well and the tension there was off the charts. So glad I got to see this live, and what a send off for the Shine series!!

@dh3913 10 ай бұрын

Cody haters should really give the guy another chance. Idk why the post game interview isn't here but in it he talks about how much work he's put into his mentality and it really shows. For the last year or so when Cody loses in irl tournaments it is always ggs, almost never johns, he tweets he needs to work harder and he does. Dude smiles on his tournament stock while fighting Zain because he appreciates the game that much. Ik Cody is known for being salty but that shit is always online and honestly his salt levels are FAR from abnormal for the average anonymous online gamer, dude just has a camera on him so we all see it. In person though you can really see how far he's come and I find it extremely admirable, how far his mentality has come and how much he has improved himself (not an easy thing to do) is legitimately extremely impressive. Lets go Cody Fuckin Schwab. Happy you won :)

@rich7103 10 ай бұрын

Well judging from the crowd cheering and even twitch chat gave him respect he got a chance. Will every player always have their haters regardless if they improve as a person? Yes but overall those haters are a vocal minority and Cody has turned around his reputation and it's great to see. I hope his surgery for cancer goes well.

@nicholas930 10 ай бұрын

@@rich7103what he has cancer? What did I miss

@rich7103 10 ай бұрын

@@nicholas930 Mentioned it in the interview for why he may miss Riptide. Thankfully it was caught early so it's very treatable.

@IIYamiSanII 10 ай бұрын

Nah, Im good. Trump haters should really give that guy another chance. Bush haters should really give that guy another chance. Thanos haters should really give that guy another chance. Anakin Skywalker haters should really give that guy another chance. Hulk Hogan haters should really give that guy another chance.

@simanolastname2399 10 ай бұрын

@@IIYamiSanIIholy false equivalence batman!

@muqmanor 10 ай бұрын

I didn't think anyone would ever dethrone Mang0 vs. Leffen as my favorite player matchup to watch, but Cody and Zain have done it. *Every single time* I watch these two play I feel like I'm watching the future of Melee in real time. No two players can come close to the collective height of skill that they reach when they're both on and it's fucking beautiful to watch. They're starting to build a case for greatest rivalry in Melee history.

@vzy8354 10 ай бұрын

The year is 2023, you can only be accepted in grands if your tag is your real name 👍🏻

@juggernautstark1 10 ай бұрын

Peak-exciting gameplay. The ledge trap to offstage edge guard interactions were insane.

@125conman 10 ай бұрын

Wish i could of seen it live! Looking forward to watching the highlights from Walt this week.

@nak6608 10 ай бұрын

GREAT SET. That's one for the books for sure

@il100374 10 ай бұрын

Phenomenal grand finals. I don't know how anyone ever beats Zain. Cody clutch af. That 2nd to last stock game 5 was so sick

@RythmicROFL 10 ай бұрын

A hell of a way to send off Shine. ❤❤❤

@JtCoronaOnTheMic 10 ай бұрын

Cody vs Zain this night in matches: 6-5 with TWO 3-0s

@TehWhiteTiger 10 ай бұрын

Ok it is pretty damn fitting for a double Fox victory for the final Shine.

@atari_hmb 10 ай бұрын

For the last shine this was definitely memorable glad i went good stuff Cody

@Pres98Rivera 10 ай бұрын

What an amazing grand finals, that was one of the closest 3-0s I’ve seen in a long time and then a game 5 last stock game to finish off True Finals. Nah man, just another showcase of why Melee will never die.

@michaelyoung3054 10 ай бұрын

Melee is so sick!

@crisXD2010 10 ай бұрын

Wow what a beautiful set man !

@YUXKE 10 ай бұрын

Zain letting his food cook up to 200% way too often. Needed more early kill confirms.

@Windraesa 10 ай бұрын

Marthritis is marth's version of Spacie tax

@spencer1531 10 ай бұрын

Incredible set of my favorite player matchup. Insane to watch someone beat Zain when he's playing that well

@pedrohdalla 10 ай бұрын

Man I do love this game

@egreene 10 ай бұрын

Banger!!

@mrmagongus 10 ай бұрын

This is what it looks like when the two best players in the world face off. The mind games run so deep. The defense is actually mind-boggling, on both sides, but Cody especially...he must be so frustrating to play against.

@thebrewsky26 10 ай бұрын

Good shit Cody, Zain too. That was one of the best matches I've ever seen. Melee is so sick

@GiovanniGiiioTorralba 10 ай бұрын

For that kind of GF is why I love melee!!

@tuxedoweasel8615 10 ай бұрын

Goated set, instant classic

@teriserugi1198 10 ай бұрын

maybe the sickest set i've ever seen

@darlingj.canela 10 ай бұрын

Omfg that was epic!

@phil_matic 10 ай бұрын

All that flubbing on the final stocks made it so much more tense lol. Good matches

@terzax9 10 ай бұрын

set of the year

@vehemore 10 ай бұрын

i'm so happy

@charliedemottwildey8575 10 ай бұрын

yo melee is SO sick. Both games had legendary grands at this Shine. Smash rules

@matt-eo3gg 10 ай бұрын

Cody’s recoveries are so good

@Ihadtochangemyusername 10 ай бұрын

I don’t understand how these guys can go back and forth beating each other up so badly.. they have more ridiculous one sided beat down games ON BOTH SIDES then any other two top player f2f

@krismover 10 ай бұрын

some of the best melee i've witnessed since goml 2019. simply unbelieveable. a set truly earning the title of "true finals."

@JjackporterP 10 ай бұрын

please never let this game die

@ThisIsWEB 10 ай бұрын

Shine with the goated send-off set.

@fp45 10 ай бұрын

HE BE DOIN WORK

@pencilkid1123 10 ай бұрын

What an amazing experience that was to be there for!!! The this is shine chant ruined my ears sitting right next to but it was all so amazing to watch

@adamquenano8563 10 ай бұрын

“No one’s ever played melee as good as Zain” Crimson Blur 2023

@peashooter6628 10 ай бұрын

People always say Zain is better than anyone else has ever been at melee, but cody is literally right there

@SonGohan-fx3vb 10 ай бұрын

@@peashooter6628Zain is still better on results for this year. Has made grands in 7/10 majors for this year, and 7/9 for majors he’s attended

@johnkramer2144 10 ай бұрын

@@peashooter6628If Zain had been on winners side this tournament, Grand Finals would have been less than 9 minutes. That hasn’t happened at a major since Armada vs Mango at one of the Genesis tournaments more than 6 years ago. Let that sink it.

@matthewthompson8625 10 ай бұрын

@@johnkramer2144 Eh, you can't really say that. The player on winner's never plays their best because they're not looking elimination in the face, and they're usually not as warmed up as the loser's player. There's no way to know how the set would have gone if zain came from winner's. Sure, it could have been a 3-0 for zain, or cody could have 3-0ed for the reset like zain did and then have the same 5-game final set. We're not living in the timeline where zain came from winner's, so there's no way to know how it would have gone.

@peashooter6628 10 ай бұрын

@SonGohan-fx3vb I'm not talking about results in tournament, I'm talking purely about melee technical ceilings, Cody is definitely on the same level if not better

@eldizo_ 10 ай бұрын

😭crazy grand finals

@Shmicah1235 10 ай бұрын

This grands was INSANE

@justinc6698 10 ай бұрын

Highest level melee play I’ve ever seen 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Great work, Cody!

@lfwalrus 10 ай бұрын

This is incredible skill demonstration

@cozyshack5011 10 ай бұрын

Historical tourney. It's truly spectacular seeing how far the melee meta has come. Not only are we pushing what is capable within the game, but we are pushing the human brain to it's limit

@hideharu-xiii8852 10 ай бұрын

Shine 2023 is a contender for best tournament ever

@polarchips 10 ай бұрын

What a fucking SET. We've been spoiled with the melee this summer

@brianronan1905 5 ай бұрын

Game 2 of reset made me a Cody fan. That was pure heat, this guy pulls every trick out of his arsenide a magician. Normally a fox hater but this guy is a beast

@kayossangel 10 ай бұрын

what a fucking good set

@itsrottweiler9545 10 ай бұрын

This is my favorite set in melee history

@guymanguy 10 ай бұрын

What an amazing set, cody woke tf UP at set 2. Game 5 of set 2 is one of the most tense games ive seen in a long time.

@Mysticulum 10 ай бұрын

Best Marth/Fox i've ever seen. Legends ❤

@JackDaniels-ru2xy 10 ай бұрын

I never say this, but Cody was actually doing shit I’ve never/rarely seen. The way he was edge guarding Marth with those shines. Amazing

@huckleberry_finn 10 ай бұрын

BRING BACK SHINE 2024!!

@matthanyfiedtano4175 10 ай бұрын

Game 5 was bananas

@nobodysbusinezz 10 ай бұрын

so good.

@eftorq 10 ай бұрын

It's impressive to see both Zain and Cody develop into abolsute menaces. Zain became famous as the different Marth with swagger and style but now he's also deadly precise like M2K was in his prime. Kind of reminded me of him, in some moments he was like a concrete wall. Cody for famous with the cracked Fox tech skill but now has a lot of the Mang0 esque "just wing it" play to him. Endless mix ups and creativity but still cracked tech skill. It's kind of interesting to see their style develop over the years, the skill ceiling in this is nowhere to be reached.

@Seth_Campbell 10 ай бұрын

CODY!!! Set of the year

@resonance-ym8mo 10 ай бұрын

Great match

@IAMMRONALD 10 ай бұрын

THE SHWAB

@tetros5265 10 ай бұрын

"Good set but I wish the video was longer so it didn't spoil the first set"

@Philostipher 27 күн бұрын

So fucking hype dude

@feelsokayman5656 10 ай бұрын

Game 5 was epic AF Long live to melee

@EtropolisGhost 10 ай бұрын

Vicious display of skill by both players

@CyanPHD 10 ай бұрын

Spolierz: Bro, having Cody and Light win both Melee and Ult, is the most fitting ending for Shine ever. Double Fox WWWWWW🎉❤

@xTheReapersSpawn 10 ай бұрын

Much respect to the new school. Holdin it down! It ain't esports, it's competitive gaming.

@morganvangele5358 10 ай бұрын

what a time to be alive. how many esports can serve you a fresh pantheon every 5 years?

@TiaSp 10 ай бұрын

LET'S GO IBDW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@andrewcass9177 10 ай бұрын

Both winners playing Fox, both winners from around New England, both winners getting shine combos during the set, both winners popping off and really caring a lot about winning this particular tournament. And both grand finals being some of the best Smash we’ve seen in a long time. Perfection ❤️ I’m glad Shine went out on top

@Mizotizoi 10 ай бұрын

Grats Cody !

@EmissaryOfSmeagol 10 ай бұрын

It's crazy how much some players have been able to push the Fox counterplay on Marth. I have a feeling that this set is going to be a hallmark in the meta.