A thoroughly enjoyable and thought provoking discussion of Machiavelli.

marvelous discussion. thanks for sharing

00:01 Machiavelli intro 13:00 Edward Muir intro 15:00 Edward Muir presentation - Machiavelli as republican Christian republicanism (medieval) versus civic republicanism (renaissance) The Prince and The Discourses as a dialog 25:10 Machiavelli's background 29:00 The Medici - authority versus power Savonarola Second chancellor The Medici return 34:10 Writing The Prince 37:20 Chapters 16, 17, 18 Why Machiavelli is controversial 44:00 Michael Ignatieff intro 46:35 Michael Ignatieff presentation - Relevance of Machiavelli Fortuna, chapter 25 Time, politicians and timing Stuff happens, events are unpredictable Politicians can't predict but they can react and control You are not the master of fortune, you need to be aligned to the times Don't over theorize, politics is local and contextual Politics is character Politics is timing, sense of the decisive moment Conflict is integral to politics and freedom 1:06:30 Q&A All political regimes are fated to decline? Chapter 26 - doing great deeds and virtu Cultivation of appearances Opinion on Moses Creating a persona and being subtle Opinion on Wall Street

Prof. Clarita Carlos brought me further here. Studied Machiavelli before in my Literary Criticism class.

is there any way where I can access the transcript of this panel?

Watched all of it 1:25:40

Magnificent - the problem with becoming better is to understand our nature and the denying of it is worthless and not constructive -The United States in particular is arrogant for its power and assumes that others that do not meet her goals are - well The Prince

Sometimes Reality bites as it makes sense with tones of logic..!

@13:40 Savonarola........ 1498.

Ignatieff seems a bit too impressed with the supposed heroicism of politics, which is hilarious given the context.

I see the connection between prince and principles , according to Vitoli in a Republic (during Machiavelli’s days) the common man is a vast well encouraged to take part in government , every man could be a prince .

Machiavelli must of lacked acting skills to cover up his ruthlessness course in the end he failed miserably that means everyone saw right through him.