I couldn’t agree more.

According to Zknives 7cr17mov is an alias for 7cr17 which doesn't actually have any vanadium. While not exactly 440a, it's pretty darn close. So it should be pretty rust resistant with meh edge retention. As to 420HC, it's a really low end steel, but like any steel if properly heat treated it can punch above it's weight class. Basically, it's pretty tough stuff, which minimizes warranty claims. To be fair, the Buck reputation has always had a lot to do with the branding. I honestly suspect that most of the legendary 119's never spent much time in the actual woods. Back in the day, and I'm old enough to remember, most of the old timers carried well worn carbon steel knives into the woods. They might have owned a Buck, but that's not what they used to beat on and prepare game, mostly for fear of losing or breaking it. I for example had some nice Case knives. but for the most part I carried a PAL RH 36 that survived WW2 and still sometimes use it to open dented cans that my can opener has trouble with.

@@RJ-vb7ghyep. No vanadium, which makes the “V” misleading.

You are correct

I still can’t believe the clone did that good

@@peterbiltknifeguy it doesn't make it a better knife overall. There's a pride in owning a Buck. Do you have pride owning a clone? Do you feel better giving your money to Chinese worker or American worker? What goes around comes around!

@@LXT43cry about it. Oh wait, you already did.

I bought Japanese forged hunting knife and a balanced samurai sword in Japan and they are best steel I own today which is impressive with my collection. Japanese ar the real forging masters. I do have a Toledo steel dagger I bought in 1991 in Spain that had hold its own though

Very well said!

They have one out now in D2 but it's $200 soooo they need to pull their heads out of their asses and make the 420 ones cheaper

420HC is a good steel. What's exactly wrong with it? I think you miss the point of these knives and that is that they're hunting knives. If you're a hunter, you don't want a steel that is too hard and chips easily and it's a bitch to sharpen in the field. Inflation is causing everything to go up but you would know that unless you've been living under a rock. Buck didn't cause inflation, the people who made bad choices at voting booth did. Direct your complaints at them instead.

It’s 80 plus tax for me

You have to remember, these are made in America. There's a tax just for that.

Great point!

@peterbiltknifeguy In my opinion Buck should be using VG10 as their budget steel instead of 420hc. It holds an edge about twice as long and is much easier to sharpen. That would be providing a good value and a great experience for the user.

@@regreg8521 thank you

Great suggestion! And thank you

Heck yeah. Because it held up extremely good in my hard use tests too

Well if you think this test is the only Criteria then go ahead and buy cheap Chinese crap. Support your own country man come on

​@@peterbiltknifeguy your knife test here has mind controlled me to buy two Gordon knives 🔪🔪 at HARBOR FREIGHT !

​@@1joshjosh1 how many made in China clothes & made in China electronics do you buy from Walmart and other stores in your USA town ?

It’s in stores

Lol. It’s actually a decent knife

I had their folder. It wasa great knife!@@peterbiltknifeguy

Definitely for the cost

🤣👍 it’s the Gordon that stole the show

I’m confused on what the question is

No steel is 60% carbon.

@@sheltermonkey6065 oh yes it is, 5160=60%, 1095 and o1 +- 95-1.00 percent, 1075 and 1080 and many more

He probably meant 0.6%. I do reject his premise though. 420HC is a fine choice for a mass produced knife. Keeping carbon low helps prevent chromium carbide from forming and thus you get a tough easy to sharpen corrosion resistant blade.

Cool

Lol. Thanks

When you're just hacking around with your friends it's just fun, when you put it on video It's SCIENCE!

😂 damn closet Gordon fanboys

@@peterbiltknifeguy 😁😁👍👍

Knifemaker? what are you making? bulshit. that's what you're making! Nothing wrong with Buck's 420HC. You know jack-shit!

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utter nonsense! try harder!

Buck is clearly the better knife and comes with better leather sheath. Still, some people are just penny pinchers and they will buy the Chinese clone. The same people who go out to restaurant to eat a breakfast but they're cheap when it comes to tools.

This test clearly proves the buck is the worse knife. The cognitive dissonance with buck fanboys is insane ​@@LXT43

The famous buck heat treatment is a sales gimmick