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Amen He's a natural

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Very good video u explained so well

heres another vote for teri the boss man who married a hair stylist who is a boss woman or a maybe a mama grizzly bear. note to self. i think grizzly bear tools is based on manufacturing tools in china. and with the problems of unloading container ships near sea ports along the united states of america. so the story of a slow boat to china may now be a slow boat from china. relative to logs. from lumber capital log yard not sure. i am not even sure where i got the info. maybe a woodmizer news letter. on one of the ships taking american cut logs overseas to china or japan. if i got it right there is a crew of individuals that follow the woodmiser motto from forest to final form. the crew take the raw materials american cut logs. and start sawing the logs from america in international waters. so they do not have to mark the lumber made in the usa but maybe we should update international law to mark country of origin. then i could demand that lumber be marked in bruce springsteen fashion with the words " born in the usa". i suspect that lumber be made on a bandsaw mill but maybe a china built sawmill purchased through the global company alibaba they broker deals for china national manufactures. but i also found them brokering cows and horses from the great state that you live in song Pennsylvania polka. at one time wood mizer had a division called bio mizer they built a heater that could turn green or wet sawdust into heat. not sure it still exists. but it could be a source of heat on those bone chilling winter days and using the heat to melt the snow instead of plowing and shoveling. the only fallback it need for electricity to power the blowers in the invention. an other thought is making charcoal on a damp cold day or in the winter when a little outdoor heat is appreciated. making a fire on a hot day makes no sense to me as it heats the heat. on a cool or cold date the heat melts the cold and either way it affects the environment. but doing at the correct time wastes not want not. and might make more sense. and are occasions when other constraints the make a suboptimal choice. like having to move the pile of wood out of the way. burning it then it makes sense. teri you wrote or figured it out. that firewood heats you up many times. 1 when you cut the tree down 2 when you walk the tree and mark out potential products. and limb out the tree. 3 skid the cut dead tree to the landing and buck up products ... spitting delivering stacking. sweating bullets getting up and down the ice covered road. driving on a customers manicured lawn to the firewood piled nearer the house. certain level of effencies come into affect. like splitting wood and loading it directly to a dump trailer and delivering to a custom when the road is passable i like from the usa east with the eastern sea board that touches the sea of the state of maine that blends into the pond we call the atlantic ocean. then there is the long island the is offshore from connecticut and part of the state of new york. in connecticut we have mystic seaport which is blest with history of the former whalers that we as humans respect as history and now we have green peace and tons of other non profits trying to prevent the japanese whaling vessels of harvesting whales and overfishing and catching and processing the remaining whales in the seas and oceans of the world for processing for food for the japanese people. i agree that whales are a food source for japan and other countries. i am just concerned that if we over catch and over eat the whales will disappear the face of the earth and go extinct like the dodo bird. i think that they went extinct or are limited to uncharted islands that have yet to be discovered. if properly managed mankind can prevent the extinction of the whale. i think a person named pat watson a conservationist activist and he was an activist with green peace and the save the whale project. many people support the save the whales. there is a vessel to annoy the japanese whalers and it was named after the popular game show host moderator the bob barker. and that might be a good name like my departed friend father figure mechanic. mr george begin affectionately called his only daughter racheal in jim croce fashion meaner then a junkyard dog because she was the rose between the thorns of 5 brothers. it was odd to me that racheal really had a pure breed pure marshmallow colored white malamute full grown puppy. the dog was named malamute similar to cartoon and movie. character dudley do right the backward facing local canadian north american county Mountie who named his horse "horse" .

Thanks for the great comment. Boss Man.

@@KenBreon a series on how and why you log the way you do would be a great project. Going through the type of cut you make and why, how and why you lay the logs the way you do(direction/angle to the slope or track), the various equipment used(l know you have already gone though some of this before) and how you select which trees to cut and which to leave. I'm sure there is a lot of stuff you have learnt to take for granted over the years that many of us would find interesting.

@@Jake12220 Is there a shortage of such books?

@@jakebredthauer5100 l think you meant that question for larry, not me. There isn't really a shortage of books like that, but then there probably isn't a shortage of people buying them either. Might not reach the best sellers list, but woodworking and homeowner timber felling is probably growing in popularity so l suspect its a growing audience and a lot of the currently used books on the subject were probably written decades ago so due for an update given that even cutting down trees is an evolving industry.

Maybe Larry. Can't remember.

I would be delighted. Boss Man.

@@KenBreon Do you know him? What about liability?

Love West Virginia and Virginia! It amazing that back in the day loggers basically clear cut the whole state of WV except two natural old growth stands. We definitely need more loggers and mills like The Boss and have more concern about conservation and "Zero Waste"! I am so with you in this!!!

You And he are so great in thinking. Don't think about today but about tomorrow.

Thank you for the comment. Boss Man.

Thank you for the comment. Boss Man.

Em wants to do a video on tree identification. Boss Man.

One of the most common causes of fatal tractor accidents here in Australia is from farmers dragging felled trees. Granted tractors are far more prone to overturn than a skidder, but having worked on slopes like that lm just happy he seems to know what he's doing as your right, it's an incredibly dangerous job.

@@Jake12220 Yep, I've seen tractors rear up when dragging trees - either on commencing the drag, or hitting something in the ground or digging in while dragging. Scary experience, and tractors don't say "sorry" when they land on you.

Thank you for the comment. Boss Man.

Do you think he is proud?

Thanks Jim for the comment. Enjoy your weekend. Boss Man.

It is awesome that we have one family of loggers out there showing they can make money and a living doing what they do, BUT they have a great concern for conservation!

I greatly appreciate your comment. Thank you. Boss Man.

He doesn't think of the tree as being alive. He thinks you are crazy.

That would be okay for people in his area.

Chipping would be a good use for the larger branches and logs or offcuts that couldn't be used for anything else. Totally agree with leaving the smaller branches though, especially in such a wet area they will quickly biodegrade and add to the soil structure.

I don't know. I don't totally agree. I'm in Ohio and won't name loggers or logging companies but I have seen so many ruin good woods, just like the Boss said. In fact, we get half of our wood from following these guys around... saw-able logs they leave behind, firewood, and some smaller stuff to chip make mulch and even chipped down even more to make wood pellets. I'm not sure where you're located at but here in Ohio and some parts of WV where we follow these loggers around, they drag multiflora rose all over and with it being invasive, it end up choking out most other plants and even remaining trees! Also consider out west where your concept leads to a ton of kindling that only future fuels wild fires. However, after the fires, and some time.... with no remaining tops left laying around, everything comes back more lush. Unlike Ken, they don't care if the trees/logs damage other trees or the landscape in their take! What we don't take, is chipped up with forestry mulchers and we build a number of dome type piles for wildlife to use. We also make sure fill in ruts left by these loggers. We also address erosion issues left by these loggers. Then we give it back to Mother Nature and aside from the obviously skidder roads, it is like no one was even in there harvesting. The land owners are happy and have clean useable woods to hunt and use. If you seen how many of these woods and properties were left, if you were a logger going in for a future harvest, you would be cussing! I'm sure you would just go ripping and tearing with a dozer to push all of this remaining debris out of your way to get your logs. This is where further damage is done due to costs and profit margins Ken is talking about. This stuff doesn't biodegrade over night! The majority of the land owners would not allow future harvests if you saw how some of these are left! I don't blame them! Sounds like you are more for profits than conservation , screw the next guy! You got your take and it will biodegrade. with time... many years? Sound like the guys we follow around. and that is the story the tell the property owners. Yet it's funny I can make money following them around and the properties are left in a better condition than they started with.

@@danagrey3534 you have to take into account the local weather conditions and the species of trees. Im in northern Australia, some of the trees on my property would take hundreds of years to break down if left to rot. Indeed a 9 inch diameter log of some of my ironbark(many trees are 4+ feet wide) is government rated to last over 100 years untreated in/on the ground and the rosewood that grows out west never seems to degrade, certainly not within human lifespans. The trees in Pennsylvania on the other hand should break down pretty quickly, its a wet area, largely pine and what l would consider pretty soft hardwoods. They get winter freeze and hot summers, it's a perfect environment for them to biodegrade pretty quickly.

@@Jake12220 I respect what you're saying and I cannot even remotely comment on timber practices in northern Austrialia. However, I am in neighboring Ohio to them.... 5 hrs. and 15 mins or 330 miles (531 KM) west of them. So we get a lot of the same weather conditions. Just less mountainy here than in PA. One reason I love this channel is I try to be more like Ken (The Boss) everyday and today I totally failed! Every other word that came out of my mouth was a cuss word! The reason is almost 3 years ago, said logging company came in to this property to take a harvest. The property owner has 33 acres that the harvest was taken from. They were paid $138,000 for the take which I know them there was some really nice hardwood tress in there. So I got called to come grade the skidder paths and was on our grader. I didn't make it the lenght of the grader before I was pulling up logs 4 inches to 16" left from tops that they tried to bury and cover up, which caused ponding and erosion for how the surface water runs across the property. I used to deer hunt this propert as a teen. So we brought in my Cat D3B and Cart D4C with root rakes, a Bobcat T770 with a grapple, Bobcat T770 with a Fecon Foresty mulcher, and our Bobcat 337 with a bucket / thumb and grapple... to once again clean up a mess! You couldn't even drive an atv or side-by side through here and it used to be a damn nice woods! Now here is the thing Matt. I know the land owners and have known them for years! They wanted the tops for firewood and like what I do, grind up anything to small and unsuable for mulch. They pulled a few tops out into one of the pastures and they got a couple dumptruck loads of firewood logs... 4 feet to about 8 feet in lenght. Just trying to grade the old skidder paths pulled up all of what ADATWOOD said just run it over with the skidder and push it into the ground and let it biodegrade! Clean up is not the logger's problem! In this case it was and was in the contract! Now they are paying us about $45,000 to clean up the mess! Mulcher heads are not cheap to run! So much good firewood was ruined! You can't run a saw through any of it without ruining a chain in seconds. I'm not running the foresty mulch head over it and ruining the very expense teeth on it. So that leaves pushing it into piles and and burning (wasting it) or run it through our Rayco 1754-240 horizontal grinder or Bandit Intimidator 18XP track chipper. Also have a Rotochopper MP 2 but its not suited for this type application. A lot of times what is chipped onto piles is hauled back to out yard to make compost . Here were are spreading and leaving it for erosion control and breakdown quicker for plant food. Said loggers had a track chipper and obviously they didn't use it! So check out V-BELT and SON KZfaq Channel (kzfaq.info) We are doing a cross between them and Lumber Capital Log Yard. However, check out LetsDig18 (Chris) (kzfaq.infovideos) and just watch how much good wood and mulch is merely stock piled and burned! It's actaully because of Chris that I got started doing what I do here in Ohio. I have commented on Chris' vidoes many times I should move my operation to South Carolina and follow him around! The 30 acre yard we have used to be an old farm fertilizer plant with a rail spur. I have checked prices and I could almost chip what he burns, put in rail cars, ship it up the east coast, make compost and ship it back down south, which they have a lot of red clay like in Australia. I could almost even load useable log onto rail cars, ship north and process it into firewood and ship it back south. Anyone thinks I'm full of it, read... www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-23/most-grass-fed-beef-labeled-product-of-u-s-a-is-imported Same thing! Now we do have a Cord King CS 20-40 firewood processor similar to LCLY's Bell. Both the Cord King and Bell are Canadian made. Also have an Wood Mizer LT 15 which I want to upgrade to an LT70. The only diffference between the above channels and what we do is that we have the U.S. versions (SMI - kzfaq.info) of the Red Rhino (kzfaq.info) compact track jaw crusher and compact track 3-way screener, which we also process concrete, asphalt and various soils like clays and topsoil. Like Ken aka The Boss, Emerald, Jade and the whole family, at Lubmer Capital Log Yard, our goal is "Zero Waste". Now as for this property owner. a good $45,000 is coming out of their $138,000 from their timber harvest and I promise you, as long a they own the ground, they won't let another logger come in and take a harvest which they had planned on. That hurts good loggers like The Boss who are trying to do the right thing. My point is I would go broke following Ken around. Again, said logger were contracted to keep the tops for firewood and restore the parcel to a similar condition as when they started... no skidder ruts, no buried materials and stumps, on erosion and make sure they were not spreding invasion plants like our multiflora rose. Other than the skidder trails/roads, most of these projects we clean up, you can't even walk through them! Time and time again the land owners are not happy with the end results. Yet I have yet to see any Lumber Capital videos of rutted messy eroded landings or skidder roads! I did infact see a video of Em, her brother and the Boss up on the hill and they had to quit and Ken said they had to take the dozer and dress up the logging roads befor they left. My point is I was unsure if my business was even worth it. Then Lumber Capital started this channel and look at how it has grown and despite we do not actual harvest timber, there is a lot of similarities, value and principles. I'm just thanklfully for all of the JDATWOODs out here and their timber harvasting practices that keeps us in business and slowly growing! f you are clear cutting I could see that. Also using firewood logs or less valuable logs in muddy areas to support skidders or dozers. But when you are doing a selective harvest , damaging other tress, and "just run the skidder over the tops asnd mash them into the ground and let Mother Nature do the rest", and leave skidder and dozer ruts and cause eroison issues, yes I have a problem with that! Its bad conservation for mere profits! You don't have to destory a woods for a timber harvest! Let me be clear, your assumption of "The trees in Pennsylvania on the other hand should break down pretty quickly, its a wet area, largely pine and what l would consider pretty soft hardwoods. They get winter freeze and hot summers, it's a perfect environment for them to biodegrade pretty quickly." is wrong! In 3 years these tops have hardly biodegraded and its a costly wastes of resources! I'm talking even braches the size of your forearm. In composting, that is a different story! We turn the piles to oxygenate them, monitor temps, and water to create the best envionment for our hungry microb workforce! Unlike Ken and me, these guys leave good sized firewood logs. As you can see, I created a business following them around! Mulching allows for quicker and better plant food, gives space to allow other trees to grow, while grading to prevent erosion which the mulch is also good for, small brush piles are left for wildlife habitat, reduces kindling for wild fire pervention (see V-Belt and Son vidoes) and useable resources are not wasted! We simply need more loggers like Ken! Sorry for the rant, but if you saw this woods 3+ years ago compare to today you would understand meposition. Most of the properties we clean up, I seriously doubt if they would allow any future harvests! We done one last week where they felled the tress and the tops landing in the edge of the farmer's corn field. So yes, perfect weather in on the east coast to biodegrade! Just mash them into the ground and hope the combine head doesn't pick them up! That is the answer... just mash in in the ground or leave it! Who cares... it will biodegrade by tomorrow!

@@danagrey3534 wow, thanks for the reply. In my area of the world, any common pine wouldn't last long at all on the ground, the termites and other insects would mulch it within a couple of years. I had expected the decay to be even faster given the wet and variable climate in PA. In regards to logs not breaking down when they are pushed into the mud or burried, thats the case anywhere, the low oxygen environment severely slows the decomposition rate. I do get your point about the horrible way properties like that are sometimes treated, but it seems like the problem was specifically with the loggers who came in with the aim of taking the easiest money and not bothering to finish the job. Its a terrible business model for the loggers, apart from burning bridges and never being able to return to the property, they aren't getting full value out of the contract. I'm surprised the landowners don't send the cleanup bill to the logging company. In Australia logging tends to be done differently, we don't do anywhere near as much private land logging anymore, in part due to the ridiculous amount of regulations we live under. But we do have a lot of mining activity where farmers allow mining companies to explore. The damage is often similar to logging trails as they have to bring in heavy equipment for drilling. But there is always a contract, the landholder is compensated for any damage done, including the value of trees, the exploration company are then required to return the land to its previous state or pay for the damage. This includes replanting trees and or grasses, removing every last bit if rubbish and returning the land to as close to its natural state as possible. If they fail to do so its fairly easy for landholders to have someone else fix it at the companies expense due to a lands court and bonds being held by the government. My point to all of this is that in Australia our legal system wouldn't allow such poor logging practises to happen, landholders would simply bill them for the cost of the land reclamation. I'm surprised that America doesn't have a similar system? Is there even a clear set of guidelines that loggers are meant to adhere to over there? We have huge amounts of regulations for logging that state among other things what can or can't be left, what to do with waste and an emphasis on reducing collateral damage or environmental impacts. Due to the current regulations most private land logging tend to be done by the landholder themselves, like myself, but like the regular industry the aim is always to get the logs out with the least environmental (or aesthetic) impact. How we log in Australia changes a lot depending on the environment, the species and the area. We clear cut pine plantations, but hardwood is almost always selectively cut. There was a foreign owned paper mill that started clear cutting hardwood in Tasmania, they didn't last long before being shut down. Australians are rather protective of our forests and bushland and don't put up with such poor land management practices. The hardwood industry has always had a focus on doing the least damage possible, to the extent that using light removable rail instead of installing roads was done for generations. These days winching out logs is common, including on my own property where l primarily use an electric winch and gravity to get them to a fire trail. Sadly the legislation in my state is so strick that its even difficult to cut trees that were specifically planted to be harvested later, but luckily l can still harvest for my own use, including for my business (thats the way lm going to choose to interpret the regulations at any rate). On my own property what l leave wont be much. I will leave hollow logs and branches for wildlife, but anything suitable for firewood l cut and send to the veterans retreat at the end of the road.

You can't do that with every log. But it's nice to get a nother revenue stream for something that would otherwise be wasted

What an exciting day. Have Fun. Boss Man.

Why not inquire of the buyer?

Sure will. Boss Man.

Thanks. It’s always appreciated reading a comment from people with old school hard knocks, knowledge.

I was a Forester/Timber Crew in the Eastern Sierra Nevadas (Mammoth Lakes/Mono Lake) during the 90’s. Interestingly, the sawlogs dropped over there were often done in the winter. The skidding was done over snow to reduce impact on the soil and lower vegetation layers. Was very fun overseeing the logging operations via snowmobiles.

Well we got a tree farmer with a cable on it and we love it if it wasn't for that I don't know where we would be

I’d love to spend a month as an apprentice under you guys

Thanks for the history lesson. Love it. Boss Man.