Budget Automatic $50 watch Round 2. Cadisen, NH36A Dead on arrival!

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This budget automatic watch made by Cadisen and featuring a Hattori NH36A movement was dead on arrival - join me as I investigate why!
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@WatchRepairChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my Patrons and Subscribers. I hope 2020 will be a fantastic year for you! This budget automatic watch made by Cadisen and featuring a Hattori NH36A movement was dead on arrival - join me as I investigate why!

@SkysaxonDragonslayer 4 жыл бұрын

Watch Repair Channel - how could I get in contact with you to send you the broken NH35/36?

@liviostrazzaboschi4425 4 жыл бұрын

🥂

@franciscos.3671 4 жыл бұрын

Poor Brocken Christmas gift

@paulhelmuth6012 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you - Mark! Will watch the video later. Always enjoy you videos. Eagerly awaiting the release of your Level 4 course!

@JDRichard 4 жыл бұрын

Watch Repair Channel You should not be doing watch videos on Christmas Day!

@Rems61 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, About 20 years ago I got interested in watch repair. I used to buy and sell at a local Flea Market, just as a hobby. One day I went to a local watch show, and Bought a couple of 10 pound bags of junk watches. I had since lost interest in watches till I started watching your channel. I started digging through those old watch bags. I came upon a Louvic watch. It has a Swiss movement looks to be good quality, Missing case back. But the bags are full of backs so it might be in there. Just found it interesting to have gotten back into watch repair because of your channel, and finding a watch with your name on it. What a coincidence. Thought you might like to hear about it. Love your vids, and hope you had a Great Christmas, and have a Happy New Year.

@SkysaxonDragonslayer 4 жыл бұрын

I‘ve got a few dead NH35/36 - so maybe you want them for free to part them out and built one or two good working...

@argilaga 3 жыл бұрын

Great overhaul! I got the same watch one year ago, it showed good readings in the timegrapher but it was gaining 5 minutes per day when on wrist. My guess from visual inspection is that the diashock spring was not sitting well on the cap jewel so this last was slightly inclined. I told the seller and he sent me another unit without cost for me, the second unit was working perfectly, around +0 s/day for one year now.

@saarlooswolfhonden 4 жыл бұрын

I bought this cadisen on Aliexpress in october after I saw good reviews on KZfaq. It is indeed a good watch and I am very happy with it. The watch is very accurate. Nice to be able to see the inside here on the Watch Repair Channel. Thank you so much.

@mrsrandommademedoit3387 4 жыл бұрын

I bought the same watch more than a year ago. i only paid $35 dollars.. and im so impressed with the quality. sapphire glass and the movement has been going strong ever since i got it. A good frind of mine bought a very expensive Oris that was DoA AND had pieces of metal / flakes all over the dial... yiikes so i guess it can happen at many price points..

@mrsrandommademedoit3387 4 жыл бұрын

@Jorn Navarre Oris fixed everything for him, and apologized. Apparently many other watches of that ref had the same problem.

@serhiirudenko6183 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thanks! It's just a pleasure to watch all that tiny parts moving around, and in the end having a fully working watch.

@Shervy2k 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your channel, not only is it educational on the craft of watchmaking but it is also very calming and your voice is soothing. Thanks for the content!

@jsking306 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos are educational, relaxing, and fun to watch (pun). Thank you, and Happy New Year.

@philrant2408 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for all your wonderful videos, I think I wrote you before that I have two Cadisen's and have found them to be good value. I do minor repairs but have never had the courage to take a movement apart so I thank you for at least showing me how and without some of the 'drivvle and garbage ' of other reviewers. Have a Great New Year.

@TheTarrMan 4 жыл бұрын

It's always upsetting when something ordered arrives broken. Glad you were able to get your watch going.

@Gilles-yn6np 4 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year !!! Thanks for your videos that I enjoy a lot 👌🏻

@misteragb7558 4 жыл бұрын

First I bought a black one, I was so happy with it I bought another one in silver, they both come in at 0 - +4 seconds a day and work perfectly.

@salimehjafari2438 3 жыл бұрын

Do they still work???

@johnbaldwin9126 3 жыл бұрын

Same for me...superb looking accurate watch

@martingrams6784 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the great videos. I'm already looking forward to new ones in 2020. Merry Christmas and a happy new year. 🎊🍀

@juliobrador8425 4 жыл бұрын

Have a nice Christmas day Mr. Lovick and an adventurous 2020 to all watch lovers!!!

@jayh549 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video as always and I hope your Christmas was excellent. I bought Cadisen with the NH36A about a year ago and so far I have not had any issue with it.

@Texmotodad 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and hope you and your wife have a great 2020 also! I joined your watch repair class a few months ago. My wife just gave me a new desk with special high legs for height, plus some tools from Esslinger so I can start my "hands-on" learning (vs videos only) about repairing/maintaining watches. For me; not others ;) I'm a lucky man!

@jameslester6785 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I really appreciate your content and all that you provide.

@tempus_fugit7366 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Mark, thank you for a great and informative year. I look forward to next year.

@shoelessb4515 4 жыл бұрын

Happy holidays to you too. I'm hoping for another year of great videos. Thanks.

@Bedrock1966 4 жыл бұрын

Much as I do love your videos, I often nod off during them! Happy Christmas & New Year

@despoinaasiatidou8647 3 жыл бұрын

that's the idea.. super relaxing to watch each video, plus you learn something ..

@tgm.d 4 жыл бұрын

I love these kind of video’s. Just watching how you take watches apart

@user-bd1tw8rt4h 4 жыл бұрын

In the small city where I live, there are many people's watches is this movement, I often repair this watch, thank you for your video

@dirk4926 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, as usual. Interesting, educational and relaxing. Happy New Year!

@howler9756 4 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year! Look forward to the videos to come in the new year.

@F3z07 4 жыл бұрын

I love the "seasonal" choice of music in this video!

@cawschwarzraben359 4 жыл бұрын

This video lowered my BP some 20 points.

@davideckford2415 4 жыл бұрын

Happy Christmas to you and keep up the fantastic work

@kevgermany 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Hope you had a great Xmas. Happy new year for next week.

@dodgydruid 4 жыл бұрын

And a happy holidays to you too, between your channel and a couple others I have gone from barely able to do a battery or strap to doing some quite in depth stuff advancing from rank amateur to a newish journeyman. Thank you.

@kswaminathan5439 4 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year Mark. All the very best for 2020. Have a great year.

4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I have the black dial version and it works perfectly. Actually I was surprised how smooth the movement's winding is.

@ABT212 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Love it. Happy Christmas

@ABGG55 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas to you mark and thanks for your content

@coisd.b.486 3 жыл бұрын

If I understand correctly, the movement is a Chinese NH36, and not a Seiko. No so-called connoisseur has already reported this. you have my full appreciation! you are the only one who knows what he is talking about! Wonderful keep up the good work 👍 merry Christmas

@vincenzodigrande2070 4 жыл бұрын

I've seen several more DOA and almost new quitting NH35/36 over the past two years. I am a watchmaker myself and noticed some lubrication issues with them. All in all I have managed to get 320 degrees amplitude on an NH35 by properly lubricating it, which indicates to me that this isn't done up to the full potential of the movement straight from the factory. Now I understand it's not worth it regarding the cost of these movements, but the fact that some had very thick grease on high speed low torque bearings surprised me and in some cases literally caused total non runners. The Starking is not a DG movement by the way, even though it resembles it, there is literally not a single part interchangeable with the DG. Not even the hands. There is a drawing of it, where it is printed as SK1813. These movements can be reliable, but are definitely not high quality and SK now uses the Miyota 8215 in all these models. The 1813 had at least 50% defect rate, which is indeed more than just bad.

@clou3778 3 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering if the new movement that starking is using better or worse than the one that they use. Also, do all of their models use the same movement, and are there any watches that are better overall for $100 or less? I'm very new to watches(as in 30 min ago) so please don't bully me too much for these questions that are probably very easy to answer :)

@edward569 4 жыл бұрын

Your content is my happy place. Thank you for it.

@dennisc.1189 4 жыл бұрын

I would be very mad if I got a new watch and it did not work, I'm glad that you were able to get the watch working again and thanks for sharing this video with us.

@randyallen2771 4 жыл бұрын

Hope you're having a great Boxing Day and a happy New Years to you. Love your channel.

@Legomanfred 4 жыл бұрын

Fun video. Sad that these watches are of such low quality as to leave damaged. Nice to see all the aspects you included, interesting and engaging. I hope that your 2020 is fruitful and lucrative. Love your videos, still working through the courses. All the best!!! 👍😊♥️

@teddyhenriquez5192 4 жыл бұрын

I have 6 invicta watches all with NH35A Movement so far they all keeping accurate time that's why I keep buying them. I guess that was just a manufacturer's defect it could happen to anyone. Excellent video. Thank you and Merry Christmas!!!

@sulimanhertani1206 4 жыл бұрын

Marry Christmas, and happy new year, the video is interesting thank you.

@theterminator9777 4 жыл бұрын

It's truly amazing you can actually assemble it back..

@michaelb.5345 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Happy new year...

@dbzamora 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas To you and your family Mark!

@jbbrabant 4 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the review. MERRY CHRISTMAS

@Zardwark 4 жыл бұрын

Lol! Auld Lang Syne! Inspired :-) It truly amazes me the patience you have with these junckers. I do wonder what do watchmakers do for relaxation over the holidays?

@pablorages1241 4 жыл бұрын

i bought one of these and it was working fine when it arrived. Tks for the vid !

@philrant2408 4 жыл бұрын

Further to my last comment, the model I wear most is the Cadisen model C-1020G, it is pretty accurate a minute a day or so but the 'storage is phenomenal, over 40 hrs. Thanks again. ( Subscribed long time)

@dazekiel 4 жыл бұрын

I bought this exact model over a year ago to see if I liked autos. I still wear it regularly and it has been completely reliable. Unfortunate that you got a damaged piece, I would have loved to see a your thoughts on a working watch. But sadly that is bit of roulette you play when ordering one of these Chinese models.

@gonshocks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another fine video. Very well done and interesting to watch.

@JustMakinProgress 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Please do more budget watch breakdowns.

@eliescaldesvilar6421 4 жыл бұрын

merry Christmas and happy new year Mark

@Balint.T.Siklosi 4 жыл бұрын

Hey! Excellent video as always! If I'm not mistaken, the NH36 is actually called 4r36 in Seiko watches, which is the successor (or upgrade) of the 7s26/7s36. Hacking and handwinding. Sorry your watch was dead... :(

@johnpena5897 3 жыл бұрын

Remarkable channel will be signing up for the course

@Andrew-J316 4 жыл бұрын

I have one of these watches. Mainly got it to use movement on another watch as it was cheaper than buying the movement alone! Seems okay. Thanks for video on how to take it apart!

@Ecksterphono 4 жыл бұрын

Happy new year. See if you can do a video on servicing a Seiko NH35a movement. If possible.

@twobob 4 жыл бұрын

merry Christmas geezer. Unlucky on that one

@miker5502 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year..Great video! I Purchased this watch and tried to modify it with luminous hands..it all went OK “until” I tried replacing the case back. The press I have was not up to the task and when I applied just a little too much force it cracked the display glass and crystal.TOO TIGHT! Anyway I now have a spare movement and will find a use for the bracelet. Lessons were learned. Lol.😂 Cheers from 🇨🇦.

@russellharris5072 4 жыл бұрын

I have both Starking and Cadisen watches which both run ok,although the $19.00 Starking loses a whole hour sometimes whilst on my desk in dial up position but doesn't do this on my wrist.The Cadisen is a good timekeeper and is a copy of a Nomos watch and was around the $50.00 price.Thanks for sharing your Christmas day with us.............

@RubenWeasley 4 жыл бұрын

How's that Cadisen? I am deciding whether to buy it or not. I am also quite curious about how it compares to the Guanqin's version of the same watch

@ehud59 4 жыл бұрын

I like your video! I have learning me so much of watches. So thanks.🙂🙂🙂👍

@BarnOwl61 4 жыл бұрын

Happy holidays Sir. I do have a similar watch, only from the Guanqin brand, with the same movement. I only payed 25, Euros and it runs like a dream, it was pre- owned, but as good as new. This must have been a case of rough handling somewhere along the line. I am very satisfied with mine. Enjoyed the video, I was curious about this movement!

@LucilleMilo 4 жыл бұрын

i have both this cadisen and the starking you referenced earlier in the video. the cadisen is working just fine, no complaints at all. the starking, not so much. the winding on it feels like there is sand in there somewhere, and it doesn't keep time very well.

@JasonAlexander1969 4 жыл бұрын

I purchased one of these and was very happy with mine. Keeps great time, and of very good quality given you get both steel and leather straps, nice looking dial and sapphire crystal too! I can't complain here.

@nunomendes2484 4 жыл бұрын

The one i bought had no problems and still works fine. Merry Christmas.

@tomasciudad546 4 жыл бұрын

Hace poco compre el Cadisen y funciona estupendamente tiene una pequeña variación de -4 segundos día y recupera 1 segundo por la noche. Creo que -3 segundos al día es aceptable. Muy contento con el reloj por el momento. En algún momento me gustaría, crear un Mod con dicho movimiento en una caja skx. Videos muy instructivos.

@1985valdi 4 жыл бұрын

I own the Cadison watch with Miota high bit movement and the watch keeps excellent time. Averaging - 4 seconds a week.

@miltonhernandez4541 4 жыл бұрын

Great video sir merry Christmas

@hanslindgren7175 4 жыл бұрын

Happy New year!🎆 I just wounder how many scrap movment you have?

@jacc88888 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I have the exact same watch. Gains 40 odd seconds a day on wrist. Off the wrist it loses about -10 to -20s a day in all positions! I put it on a timegrapher and it’s still +40s but then after a few minutes it slows to about -20s/d! Weird! Poor QC with these but I love the clean design of the case and dial so wear it anyway! Guess I’ll have to buy a new movement too. Ps NH36=the newer Seiko 4r36 i think!

@heredotrecayi 4 жыл бұрын

Wow such a fortune that you received a broken one and the result well done as always . Congratulations

@Svarsvar88 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, beautiful video you made! The problem I have with this watch is that the bracelet opens super easy . I can't even use it. Could you be so kind to explain how to fix this kind of clasp pelease? Thank you so much!

@troidesproject9631 4 жыл бұрын

I have bought NH36A to replace dead seiko 7s26. Unfortunately the movement have defect. The balance wheel stop when I turn the movement to side position. I was thought the balance staff have broken. But when I open the screw, I found the hairspring is not correctly installed. Thanks for your tutorial about how to "Setting a watch in beat" I have managed to repair the movement.

@ajovev 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same Cadisen, great watch, works great. I received it with a super annoying dust particle by the dial. I opened the case back (later I removed the dust by removing the front glass - i didn't know, that it was removable). It was real nightmare to put the case back into place. I didn't have a press back then, I managed to close it, on the kitchen table, using my whole 90kg body weight. I put the watch onto the table and on the case back I put another case back from a bigger Forsining watch, which was just pressing on the metal and not the glass itself. Then using a kitchen bread board I pressed it with my whole weight and it snapped! Imagination is everything ;) With the press would also be very difficult, i suppose you also had a tough time there :)

@cksink6965 4 жыл бұрын

I used C clamp like the one used for pressing brake cyclinder. I put flat knife on both sides and pressed in the clamp.

@russellharris5072 4 жыл бұрын

My only experience of Cadisen is with an homage of the Nomos Lambda and very good it is too.I haven't given it that much wrist time but for the couple of weeks i used it ,it performed well.

@user-rq7ki2yr7i 4 жыл бұрын

I bought the same watch as the internal machine, but I got a problem with the hands and the bezels, and I repaired it and it was very cool and its timing is also nice

@pedramazari1836 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video. I have a cadisen , different model though. So far it has been really good. Mine has Miyota 9015 movement but it comes at a cost.

@iancatlin5985 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great videos through the year! I have the exact model and have no problems at all with it - must be luck :-)

@bigfunanAmericaninGermany 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! as to the watch... I am a bit scared to order one of these, for two reasons. The first the lack of quality control, and secondly the range of happy customers vs unhappy customers, is a very wide swing... so I may get a good watch and I might not, and if I don't I have to wait another 3 months to get a new one, or get mine repaired and returned... I would rather just buy a nice Citizen NH8350, or something like it.

@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын

Nice Boxing Day morning video to watch whilst sipping my first coffee. I think the state of that movement on arrival is horrendous as I’m sure it left the factory like that. I understand why there is a market for value automatics just wish the uneducated could be educated in the ways of vintage. Buy something with a bit of history and loads more quality. Merry Christmas Mark.

@StephenThorley 4 жыл бұрын

@myretrowatches what's you top choices for budget vintage?

@jeffshuffle 4 жыл бұрын

I plan on buying a vintage watch in the future. I just bought a cheap Chinese watch to get my foot in the door. it is my first mechanical watch but I guaranty it will not be my last... merry Xmas and happy new year.

@biohayzer 4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Thorley I would look at Omega or Breitling

@nunomendes2484 4 жыл бұрын

Lesson: 1% of budget mechanical watches comes with defect; 99% of vintage watches need service

@jacc88888 4 жыл бұрын

In would be interested in vintage if it wasn’t for the small sizes. I know it’s partly vanity but I just can’t bring myself to buy watches that look small by modern standards. Also I love the ‘wrist presence’ and legibility of 39 or 40mm watches like this.

@richardspacetimeuhrensamml4236 3 жыл бұрын

Great Work 👍

@jims4539 4 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year. How did the Hatori measure up to the Seagull in manufacture quality? I use the SII NH35 for home builds but see the Chinese Seiko clones for $10 -15 less.

@zigmanzapolovich9048 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Mark. I unfortunately did not buy the Cadisen but instead purchased the first watch shown in this video-the Starking Automatic. And yes, it stopped working after 3 hours. Only $40+ but anticipated a better outcome. Got the usual runaround from Ali Express and Starking and ended up keeping this albatross. My question is, which movement(s) can I purchase to replace it with that any half-competent watchmaker can replace and what should I expect to approximately pay the watchmaker for his labor? Another excellent video and always exciting to see a "master" at work!

@jandoerlidoe3412 4 жыл бұрын

Most likely the mishap did happen during assembly in the watch factory: The original movement, when you did test it on the timing machine was out of beat as well: notice the double lines written by the recorder....

@adrianbirkett594 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, very interesting indeed. I have a 70s watch with the same problem.. I suspected canon pinion. Have yet to strip it down, would this be a common problem? Do canon pinions come loose often?. Enjoyed the video. Happy new year. Adrian.

@bjcundiff8623 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a video you have done that goes over the seiko 5 with the 4r36?

@PlaceboPictures 4 жыл бұрын

May I ask what you use to shoot these videos in terms of the camera, setup, etc? I’m always so curious! Thank you in advance...I can watch your content all day!

@Frankowillo 4 жыл бұрын

Just read the description section, it's all in there.

@eyeontime6136 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance you could clean/oil Miyota movements 9015, and 9039? Love the videos, thanks.

@cristianvera8506 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent teaching great one 🙌👏🇺🇸

@therealwatchdoctor 4 жыл бұрын

Good job!

@dodgydruid 3 жыл бұрын

I'm wearing a huge Paulaeris "Classico U1001" homage at the moment, suspect it has a Mingzhu in there but has surprising features like a titanium top ring, what appears to be sapphire, AR, the fly in the ointment is the expectation the very neon orange hands and numerals would be lume but aren't is a tad annoying but I bought it for the canteen crown more than anything else and £18 for a 50mm plus crown automatic watch with two functioning subdials is pretty darned good and I haven't had to correct time yet so its holding well. I have big hands and large wrists so I prefer oversize pieces anyway.

@GodsOath_com 4 жыл бұрын

Do you ever switch the higher quality movements from a lower quality case to the higher quality case? Or would that just not work?

@jpf119 4 жыл бұрын

I do own that very exact watch and I like it. The only downsides for me are the pressed caseback and the polished bracelet (brushed would have been much better)

@affanyahya7091 4 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year.❤❤❤❤

@gauranggppatkar2968 4 жыл бұрын

I have same one and I didn't have any problems like you mentioned. It was very accurate till now. Maybe the accuracy was effected recently when my father placed my watch near my Nd magnet.

@universesorion6501 4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas

@simodubajic5911 4 жыл бұрын

I have purchased same watch a year ago, it's working fine, it's late average 5 sec/ day, it was a bargain so I am thrilled with it. Bracelet is not so great but not bad at all, overall I'm happy with it.

@moreplatesmoreface 3 жыл бұрын

Same happened with a bliger explorer with the miyota 8215. DOA no motion of any hands rip

@jpgonly7034 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! May I ask you ... does NH36A similar to 7S or 4R36?? I have recently swapped 7S on my Seiko 5 to NH36A! I just can't be any happier! How come they can do any profit out of it?? The movement itself costs aroud 30$ (shipped)??

@Swenser 4 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks, but I'm still pissed that people treat time with contempt. Always late and behind schedule. No point in having accurate time piece in my world.