I was looking for this comment and confirmation! Thank you !

@@Angel_cp4 my pleasure. Its worth though to check the manual cos its like that 100% in the modern ones. I do not know in old vintage mecanisms.

And this is an improvement over the Swiss SW-200 movement which, if you are not careful, you can overwind and shear the teeth off of one of the gears.

@@clontstable1 Thanks for the tip, I didn't know about that !

@@clontstable1 Not just the Selita SW-200, but the ETA 2824 in which the sw-200 is based/copied off is also very prone to this issue.

that already beats some Swiss movement that has to service about 5/8 years once . Impressive

I've got a Seiko quartz chronograph that I've had since I was 12 years old. I'm now 38. No service. Just new batteries.

@@donhoward4218 The Seiko watch will live longer than a human lol

0.2 of a second ?

I think he meant 2 seconds. My prodiver is very close to -2 sec a day. Had it since 2020 an wear it 24hrs daily

"Should your watch run a little slow over the course of 24 hours, place it face down during the night and see if it catches up" Interesting! I might try that! Thanks!

@@sumahama1981 That works for my watch that has an NH35. I have no idea if that's consistent behavior among all NH35 movements. However, you should be able to find a position in which your watch runs faster or slower than in does in any other position and you can use that property to your advantage.

I had an omega seamaster 300 brand new the date stopped working. Maybe someone at the store changed the date at the wrong time in the evening. Nevertheless the warranty covered it and I was without the watch for 3 months. Never had a seiko break on me. The omega is a $6000 Watch.

It is no better but still impressive for mechanical movement in this price range. None of mechanical movements can come close to quartz accuracy, especially if you want to use mechanical movement outside laboratory. The worst quartz movements have max deviation 1 second per day, no matter of its position or temperature. Even Rolex can't do it. My cheap (~20$) Casio F-91W has +2 /+3 seconds of deviation... per month.

Glad it was helpful!

Will do! Seagull, Miyota and others are in the making!

​@@SillyVintageWatcheshi sir. Can U explain the NH34 movement?. Too many GMT watches at the market use this movement. I need to know. ❤ Is it good to use around 4/6 years above without any service?

Thanks!

Yep but then as time is money the cost of the watch goes up.

Yes, they do. But only in the date setting mechanism, as far as I know.

True (to some degree). As far as I remember, two plastic wheels are used for the date mechanism. They are not relevant for the timekeeping part of the watch. In the date, they even make sense, since they don't require lubrication and are exposed to very little wear. I would also suspect that they are lighter than wheels made from metal, and therefore help with accuracy during date changes and help increase the power reserve. But that's my assumption.

I agree.....

Thanks!

"True (to some degree). As far as I remember, two plastic wheels are used for the date mechanism. They are not relevant for the timekeeping part of the watch. In the date, they even make sense, since they don't require lubrication and are exposed to very little wear. I would also suspect that they are lighter than wheels made from metal, and therefore help with accuracy during date changes and help increase the power reserve. But that's my assumption." - Silly Vintage Watches

Hi, thanks for your comment! The SKX never came with the NH36 /4R36. It always came with the 7s26 and that never had hacking or hand-winding. But you can swap the 7s26 in your SKX for a NH36, I made a video about it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gOCih7uczsu5fmw.html

Dang, mine runs about 20 seconds fast a day. I'll have to get that addressed when getting it serviced.

@@Tunkkistry demagnetizing it before you get it serviced

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The way you ask, I would generally say yes. But the two movements are hard to compare to each other since they sort of belong to different price categories. To answer you more precisely: they both do well in their respective categories.

I own several Swiss watches with the SW-200 movements. They are solid and reliable except for one caveat, they are susceptible to overwinding. If they are overwound, there is a risk of shearing the teeth off of one of the gears.

Indeed, the hand winding is very very light. You don't get much feedback, even if the watch is fully wound. If the watch runs out of power, does it start right up if you pick it up and start winding it?

@@SillyVintageWatches it doesn't work. I got it checked at a service centre and they confirmed a part broken in the movement. Zelos is sending me a replacement NH35 movement.

Number 1.. no... Number 2, more than a whole new movement.

I believe some are made under license in China.

There is a third SEIKO owned factory in Hong-Kong making them. Time Module Incorporation.

Yes you can

Adjust the beat error as close to 0 as you can and then adjust the rate as close to +/- 0 sec per day as possible. Then see how many seconds per day you are off on average and correct for that. If you want to go crazy you can adjust in several positions and various temperatures and find a happy average that works for you. I can with a little effort regulate my watches usually to within 0 to +4 seconds. You do need a timegrapher, a dust-free room with clean air, and the tools to open and regulate the watch. You will also need a new case back seal and seal lubricant.

Crazy how many people actually care about precise time. I normally set my watches 1-5 minutes fast and know that I am generally going to be on time wherever I'm going.

I tried that back when I was in the world several times and it eventually drove me insane. Don’t know why but I’m the type who has to have my watch say the correct time. Of course I have to leave earlier. : )

And remember to take some pictures!

Good choice!

I have exactly the same with a new NH34 movement. Also the amplitude is between 165 and 179 and the beat error is 1.1. I wonder what is wrong, but I suspect their quality control is also not fully up to par

Sounds like the movement could be magnetized. It’s a pretty simple fix, most jewelers can do it

Yes, there are a bunch of vids showing the swap. Not to hard.

Yes, you can, but you will have to change the dial if you want to use the weekday function of the 4r36.

Pagani with sapphire crystal & solid stainless steel body is on 🔥🔥🔥

Agreed. Zelos and Islander are well ahead of many more expensive manufacturers in my eyes

Yes

The NH35/36 should have a casing diameter (including the gray movement ring) of 29,36mm.

The NH35/36 has a power reserve of about 41 hours. If the watch stops, it's usually good to give it a couple of turns by hand. The automatic winding takes a couple of hours of movement to fully wind the watch to its full power reserve. If the watch is not worn for long enough during the day or is not moved enough, it can not recharge itself on a daily basis and might stop at some point. If the watch is older than 5-6 years, it might also be due for a service, depending on its condition.

There is no difference at all. They are not made in Japan any more. They are produced in Malaysia or Hong-Kong.

My understanding is that it does.

exactly

Seiko movements have a reputation of being watches that just keep going and going. However, I would service them about every 6-7 years or as soon as you recognize a change in performance. With cheaper models that utilize cheaper movements, like the NH36 NH35 NH34 or NH38 you can get away with having them run longer and then replacing the entire movement altogether.

@@SillyVintageWatches thanks for the response.

I would pretty much say so. The construction is essentially the same.

Yes, it does seems to have the NH35A movement.

Like 50.00 bucks, the seiko branded ones 4r35 4r36 etc area little more.

The problem would be that labor even without spare parts will far exceed the price of a new movement. An NH35 can be had for $35 to $50. The pallet jewels will certainly wear over the years. The oils used will become dirty and eventually increase wear on the pivots. An NH35 should be capable of running a decade without service or movement swap.

@@chronocommander007 A decade is a huge exaggeration. It may run. However serious precision degradation will be noticeable after about 3 years.

@@rosomak8244Well, unless you are hobby watchmaker capable of servicing and replacing wear parts, an NH35 is a throw-away movement because having it serviced will cost more than several new NH35 movements. Who is going to pay as much for an overhaul as he would for a new watch? An HH 35 is $40 retail price movement. How much is the wholesale price? As for degradation, yes, of course. But yeah NH35 movements can and often do run for over 10 years reasonably well without s service. It's also unlikely that a person will wear only watch all the time during that long a time period. What's acceptable as far as accuracy and pecsion go is an individual matter. The NH35 is a very simple movement. Something much more complex like a 7750 will usually need to have some parts replaced every 5 to 7 years or bad things will happen. I'm not saying you should not service an NH35. All I;m saying is it's not a fiscally reasonable endeavor for most people under normal circumstances. Yes, you don't thtoem out a a $1,000 movement because it needs a $600 service, but who will pay $200 to service a $40 movement?

Nah not always. I have an unserviced NH35 over eight still running +12 per day. I can live with that. I think it will hit a decade

No, it can not.

The miyota 9015 has a smoother movement.

It is essentially the same technologie and works in the same way, yes.