You answered every question I thought of about cable railing. I was looking for exactly this hardware - clean looks, installs inside rail instead of outside, and not too expensive. I haven't seen any other videos that did a climbing test. Thanks for the great video!

Thank you feeling much better about this product now. Installing this week!

Items were exactly what I purchased and video was perfectly suited for my project - THANKS!

Thankyou for editing, sometimes it’s painful watching people struggle

GREAT video! I just found your channel today and your videos are very informative! Thanks for taking the time to share these budget friendly tips!

Thank you!!!! Because of your video, my deck looks awesome!

Very informative. I have the exact items and your video answered all my questions. Melbourne Australia.

Thank you so much for making this video! Awesome job and exactly what I needed.

EXCELLENT! Best video on the cable system I've seem and I've look at over 20 videos on youtube!

Cant wait to try this product, pricing is right and really like the clean lines, thanks for a thorough video!

My wife and I did a deck workover this summer and installed the muzata railing system in a 600 sq ft deck. We picked the flat black finish on the cable and hardware. We are very happy with it. This is a good DIY project and all the more so because I could not get a contractor to do the job. All are too busy here in Colorado.

Nice experiment. Thanks for giving us this comparison.

I bought these products from steel dn mate, and I just complete the project, saving money and clean look. Amazing!

I have used this same cable system inside and outside of my house. The trick is to cut the wire at the right length to have most of the threads inside the wood. They rarely loosen, but when they have it is simple to tighten them. Fortunately for me, when I bought my materials, they had a different hydraulic crimper. It was much faster to use.

Excellent info. Appreciate the climb test.

Great job, very helpful. Thanks from Australia 🇦🇺

This is his first time and goodonya for getting it done. Keep in mind that we're rigging railings. Think rigging a boat. "From far it doesn't look terrible". We'd need to have a pretty large deck to get far enough away for that to not look "terrible". It would help if we first started out thinking we could afford to do the cable railing correctly. All the components needed to finish it as it looks on the WEB pages is a good place to start. Galvanized wire isn't close to making that list. Neither are bolt cutters whose purpose is conveniently defined in their name. That's why they aren't called bold "swagers" or bolt "crimpers". Stainless Steel is the best choice for stuff having to hold up 24/7 outdoors. It is steel that stains less than other steel. It can rust depending on circumstances. Crimp, turn 90degress, crimp, turn 90, repeat as needed. Crimping again 90 degrees to your first might smooth metal that may have pinched out of the die on the first pass. Stainless Steel Ferrels that fit in the post give it a finished look. Use of turn buckles means we can lag all the way in to hide threads on that end then cut enough slack to be able to terminate the other end. That slack would be removed with the turnbuckle. Heck, all this is online. Do it that way and only compromise after posting on a place like this or calling the vendor asking what they'd do on your budget. By-the-way, I'd tune the strings up to Ukulele tuning and let the kids do something creative with your deck. If you have a couple sections tune one to GCEA for Soprano and Tenor and dGBE for Bass. I can hear the kids now yelling, "comeon we're going to play Potters porch."

I did this for 150 ft railing. Bought the crimp for 40 on amazon and works fine. They also sell for stairs that can go different angles. If you are doing in summer, don’t make it too tight, it will become shorter and put too much tension on post

This is a great video. I was getting pricing of $135 per foot for cable railing! Although Muzata is sold out of the lag bolts Amazon has them in stock. Another KZfaq win.

I love the tutorial, thank you. I’m really liking how you connected the 2x4 to the posts. It looks seamless! How did you do that? Our deck needs a big makeover, this railing and the posts. Yours look really well done. Thanks!

Loved the stress test

Thanks for the demo! Excited to try these fittings out. Any idea what standard die size the 1/8 die corresponds to? I have a crimper with 14, 10, 12, 8, 7 AWG, etc sizes, so just curious if you know.

I just did this on 4x4 posts and they bowed like crazy after a day. Following the instructions, I left an inch of thread and it was way too tight. Luckily I was able to straighten the posts and re-do them. Be careful not to put them too tight

Thanks for your review

Really helpful video!! Thank you.

Very helpful. Looking to do my railing too. Thanks...

Thanks, very helpful video.

Your video was great. Their recommendations for the amount to cut off the overall make you see threads like you showed. To not see threads cut 1 1/8" off square runs, 1 5/8" off of stairs, 1 5/16" off square to rake. Buy extra so you can figure it out too.

Just checked their website and seems they are "Sold Out" of about everything I needed!

id leave a little threading exposed so you can tighten them up as they stretch out from people putting weight on them. Great tutorial. i am installing a very similar system on my deck. thank you

good video thanks for the ideas. what about just using the long shank eye bolt and tightening from the back without the turnbuckle.

Here's a tip if you have a big shop vice you can make your own dyes by slotting 3/4 carriage bolt nuts with a grinder or file and then put the cable lags between and tighten. And use magnets if ya want to hold them in the vice

Excellent video

You did well I learned a lot from your installation and honest feedback on the Missouri product I was wondering if you had any follow up I had another question if the cable does give and sags do you have to replace it completely because there’s no way to tighten it all that you do still have that half inch on the other end for tension down the road? Thanks again it was a huge help

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My job is still waiting on the front veranda but I reckon I'm up to speed on a few things. I was told that using bolt cutters is NOT at all suitable. That is because a proper swage tool actually bonds the cable to the swage. Also one compression is easily enough as this is not a load bearing cable. I used a hammer and cold chisel to compress all my copper shade sail swages but after being told how to do it the right way, I bought a hand swage tool and went over every swage so now I know a big wind will not blow my expensive sails away! As for my railing, I bought the left/right lag screws as they do look neat as a pin on the KZfaq vids I've seen and easy peasy to install. My job is over 20 metres x 5 rows of cable so this is the cheapest way of getting stainless steel balustrade. Turnbuckles and all those other fancy fittings would up the cost significantly and would just makes the finished job more clunky imo. Thanks for the video Josh; you reinforced my thoughts that I bought the right hardware.

I just wired mine up. System works great, but if your 4x4's are weak, these will split the wood in half. In order to avoid this don't over tighten and add a bottom plate

Awesome video! I don’t like the threads showing as well. Curious, could you screw them in showing 1/4 and tighten to flush? Thx.

Just done a deck railing with them if you measure it out it works awesome with no threads showing

Aluminum turnbuckles are only for displays at wax museums and Halloween haunted houses. LOL... Not really, but seriously, I wish I would have caught you saying these were aluminum when you first started working with it so I could have laughed all the way through it waiting for you to put pressure on the aluminum. I like the plain one. That's what I'm going to do. Thanks for the vid

With this exact setup, can you make a 90 degree turn in a post and carry with the same cable? Instead of having to drill and use another set of the L&R's in the same post just on the other side.

I used this kit ! try this trick . Pilot drill like you did then use the lag like a drill bit in the drill to send it in . Works great . I also had a open end crimp tool that way you can set all your lag half way in then crimp all the wire at the same time then tighten. I really like how simple and nice the look . Great video

What kind of anchors to be used in case... Concrete beams or MS box pipe?

Great video. The crimper is a problem for me. It looks like a lot of work. Needs to be redesigned.

I like this system, but instead of lag ends I would prefer a machine screw end so you could thru drill the post and adjust tension that way. A lag screw seems like it could loosen as wood ages and dries out.

Good product, but my qustion with cable railing is what about maximum recommended span of the cable between post? I have a large deck that was added to over time so, some of the spans are about 72 or inches or more.

@15:40 that’s why I decided against cable balustrades. My kids would be all over those things and climbing over the railing.

you could also measure and crimp both ends first.

Would be nice if they made a simple slip cover so that you could place two on the wire then crimp and slip over the exposed threads 👍🏼

Thanks!

Love all the videos. Can't tell you how much I appreciate all the helpful information. Do you think this would work for long runs? My deck is quite large. I have a 31' run and and a 27' run. I would not want to use these for each section as the cost would skyrocket.

I would say the biggest question is this Are the people who are watching this professionals or DYIrs. OR.. a tradesman that requires a long lasting tool. A decision we all make

Do you know if you can run these cables on a diagonal with the lag screw cable connectors and just drill the holes at an angle? This is specific for a handrail on a stairs that are diagonal. Thanks.

The new crimper seems more user friendly. No need to remove the post and remove the top die.

I done my railing this year and turned out very well. I used turn buckles with my cables.

I bought these after watching your great video but every time I turn them to tighten the cable pulls out! Maybe my hydraulic crimper is weak? I bought it new with the kit. Any thoughts?

Maybe it's different in the US but in the UK thats a £200 tool and those screw in fitting s are £37 each so £74 plus the cost of the cable which is the cheapest part. This is way more expensive than even glass. I priced this for a client and it worked out for a 4 foot section, they wanted vertical wires. It worked out around £800 for a 4 foot section. Obviously they never went with it and managed to get toughened glass panels for £75 per section.

Hi there, does one have to use the left and right lags at every section? Or can one drill holes through several sections and use the lashes at the first and last sections?

For you diy crimper, drill a hole in the lock cutters.

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Can you crimp the cable ferrule used on the turn buckle with that style hydraulic tool ?

Used to use that cable cutter in my slickline days.

Hello. I’m about to do cable railing on my deck rails and came across your video. Would the lags work if my deck rail was 24ft long and I went ahead drill a whole through the posts in between? Hope that make sense?

does look like a DIY job

Great video! Where can I buy these neat cable railing terminals?

Do one complete side and you shouldn't have to disassemble tool each time I would think ,I am getting ready to do one I will try it .

Why is it that Muzata does not list: Recommended distance between two anchors AND recommended distance between mid-support post. They have lots of product but you need to request this info. from tech support, I could not find on web site

I wonder if you could chuck that into ur drill to install those bolts???

Nice vid. Perhaps someone should invent a turnbuckle with lag screw on end, and crimpable sheath other end... jussayin...

Hello this is Sandra!Thank you, thank you.That is exactly what I need, can someone please tells me where can I buy it?

The big question from a pro builder is this. With multiple post. Ie>4×4s. The lines of the cable system may be interrupted from one side to the next. Hence the length of the threads. Wouldn't one "panel" interfere with other? A long run of 20 feet. >five post< the cables should line up all across the separate sections. Therefore i see a conflict of the fasteners colliding within the post? Isn't this an issue? Especially when we as installers want, or should want a clean appearance. No threads showing? Is there a longevity issue with the overall depth of the threads and how far is the penetration? Before they collide?

very informative and thanks for the input. Just hope the kids and grandkids do not climb on the cable.

What about stairs any videos ?

Can you crimp them round instead of hexagon?

I'm the same with no threads measure the thread and give your self a little bit more slack in your wire

It says to measure between each post and cut wire 1 1/2 - 2" shorter. I have instructions

Would this railing design meet code? I would guess the inspector would want to see the cable installed through the post

Top one is way cleaner looking but you already know this

screw to attachement in further before cutting and crimping so you wont see threads use a dummy one as an example to factor in the rest of the assembly. The turn buckle is ugly

Great video! But the hydraulic press seemed like a pain. Too many moves to press and then move. There are other presses that are open on one side.

Looking for a cleaner look thank you for the video

get a single hinge swaging tool so much easier

I prefer the system that goes all the way through the boat and you can put a note on so that it’s not stressing on the fibers of the wood I think this will eventually pull out was a nut the end can’t

Do the cables get loose as the temperature changes?

what size cable?

I hate the turn buckle idea it's ok but not for me

so I don't need a hydraulic crimper? That thing makes the budget double/triple

50# is all that required

Where’s the links???

The issue with threads showing seems like a measurement issue.

Why not try cutting it w your cable cutters? And after failing with your home made cutter/ crimper, why not try a large pair of vise grips? Stainless is soft. I'm trying it tomorrow. Think cheap. Use what you got.

Cheaper on Amazon

Good video but would not use either, neither is appealing to the eye.

Nice 👌 but I'm sure it's out of building code because kids can use it as a latter and fall off the other side

Use your drill put it in half way

$119 for the crimper and cutters alone...not really 'BUDGET' pricing!

I don't want to see threads either

That crimping tool is a joke. Spend the money and get one that's speedy

Nice video, thanks. Super unappealing system from an installation point of view. Labor-intensive as heck.

Terrible design for a a crimper - better off to get bolt cutters and notch out the end to make them a crimper.