The Ultimate Sealed Enclosure - 140db SPL Score - With Only 1,000 Watts

The Ultimate Sealed Enclosure - 140db SPL Score - With Only 1,000 Watts - Part 1

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See me Design - Model - Test & Demo A sealed subwoofer enclosure with NVX VCW122 and Slaps M-12 passive radiators by Earthquake sounds. Watch me achieve an SPL score or 140.1db at 37Hz with only 1,000 watts of power. Much thanks to Sonic Electronix for providing the NVX Subwoofer in this build. You can support my channel by following the affiliate links below. Thanks in advanced.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:02 - Purpose of This Build
4:00 - Unboxing VCW12
4:50 - Unboxing Slaps M-12
6:00 - Design Your Box - WinISD Pro
9:30 - Model Your Box - Sketchup
12:00 - Wood Selection - MDF
12:42 - How To Inspect Sealed Enclosures
13:40 - SPL Test - Weighted Passive Radiator
22:20 - Tuning Your Passive Radiator
26:30 - SPL Test - Non-Weighted Passive Radiator
31:15 - Music Demo - Non-Weighted Passive Radiator
33:38 - Pros and Cons
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@mikegreen2229 Жыл бұрын

Man I wish I had this info in the 90’s instead of just spending my minimum wage pay on the biggest amps and subs the car could handle! This is awesome

@josephhale9198 Жыл бұрын

Thats for damn sure

@edubbdizzle8096 Жыл бұрын

Lol the 90's had some amazing systems but literally no-one sound dampened their rides and everything always sounding like it was falling apart.😂😂😂

@robwithrbk Жыл бұрын

@@edubbdizzle8096 Cause dynamat was crazy expensive.

@RjctdEK Жыл бұрын

@GoldenStateOfMindSD yea people wanted gold for that shit back then. People would use 3m black caulking and carpet filler under or behind pannels worked just as well and I remember the old dynamat use to melt away when I use to do car audio 20+yrs ago

@jasonsmith9161 Жыл бұрын

@@robwithrbkwas!?! It still is.

@crucial0072 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to figure out how you got Steve Harvey to narrate your video in first person. 😂😂

@jsmith416 Жыл бұрын

Straight up old school! Awesome job man! That’s exactly what we did back in the 90’s. This is one of the best subwoofer videos I have seen in a spell!

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Its inspired by the 90's builds. You are the first on to actually catch that. 💯

@tommymorris4450 Жыл бұрын

I'm now working on a build very similar to this one. I want to thank you. I had forgotten about how good passive radiators really are.

@tommymorris4450 Жыл бұрын

I gotta question about my new build. How many passive radiators should I use with one 12 inch active subwoofer in my trunk?

@tommymorris4450 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering would 2 10 inch passive radiators be ok?

@bronwynkaye9277 8 ай бұрын

Majority of my audio setups do mid to high 140s. My g6 had 2 12" Phoenix gold sx12d4s doing 144 to 145db under 400rms. I eventually upgraded and average 148db 25hz to 41hz.

@PLATINUMSWORDS Жыл бұрын

This was a learning experience for me. Was always told to stay away from passive subs and just brute force it. That is a killer budget setup.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out. I really wish you guys could hear it in person. It really surprises me every time.

@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead you were so thorough in this video. I would definitely enjoy seeing you upload an educational video regarding Sketchup... As this is my first time hearing about it. Looks like I'll be checking out Sketchup. Thanks!

@matthahn8714 Жыл бұрын

Awesome job man! I was wondering if you could possibly steer me in the right direction? Do you think this could work with am 8 or 10 inch set up? Obviously won't be as loud, but could be an option for people who can't fit12,'s. Thanks

@skydyverjym Жыл бұрын

Same here. I always thought it defeated the purpose by absorbing energy sapping the system

@michaelrodgers6559 Жыл бұрын

@Matt Hahn it's a great way to go at any size. I had two of the kicker 10" sub/radiator slim boxes behind the rear seat in my crew cab pickup, and they punched like MAD without broadcasting it to the whole block. That's the power of 10" setups: in the car, apocalypse. Outside: no one really notices. Having had systems jacked twice before over the years, I don't like being obvious.

@joea55 Жыл бұрын

I have a similar setup. Output was way more than expected with my 1200 watt amp. I’m using one 12” NEP advance and a 12” earthquake passive radiator. Also it is very musical and plays deep. Best sounding setup bass wise I’ve ever owned.

@Chris_Wolfgram Жыл бұрын

I’ve had the same experience 🙂👍

@julesbruchez-outperformtra2020 Жыл бұрын

I need a passive radiator for my two 10” Infinity

@dennisbeck2521 Жыл бұрын

I have never considered a passive radiator setup to be a sealed enclosure. I always lumped them in with ported enclosures. The real benefit of a passive radiator setup is that it allows the user of a smaller enclosure volume than what is typically feasible with a ported enclosure due to the length of the port required for a small enclosure. Fwiw, I entered the $150 challenge using a $70 Ignite r1600/1d amp and Rockville K6-12 in a stock 4runner and scored a 141db at 39hz sealed in the kick. It is amazing what can be done with modern budget gear.

@PhatkatCollections Жыл бұрын

A passive radiators setup is not a sealed enclosure. It's comparable to a bass reflex / ported enclosure .

@Bobcatspiritdude Жыл бұрын

Who remembers the aperiodic membrane enclosures ???

@Bobcatspiritdude Жыл бұрын

@@PhatkatCollections agreed . I think it was just a general reference that the actual Box is technically sealed , And not venturedAnd not vented .

@robwithrbk Жыл бұрын

@@Bobcatspiritdude Aperiodic and Passive Radiators were def more of a home audio thing. I don't think I've ever seen Aperiodic in Car Audio. Totally forgot about those.

@evilinside5984 Жыл бұрын

@@robwithrbk Aperiodic's have def. Ben used in sq car audio builds. I seen them @ world finals.

@DavidCakl1 Жыл бұрын

I bought the slaps-m10 because of this video and I'm so glad I did! the 20L box with the new Alpine R2 10" works perfectly. i can play 20hz even at high volume and it sounds great! no port noise! no distortion! the whole trunk of the car is almost empty :D i can't thank you enough for this video! 😍 BTW: I switched from 12" bassreflex 50L tuned to 32hz and this is louder and deeper on same power🙂

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Love it 💯 glad I was able to help!

@Juggernaut-fg2up Жыл бұрын

What would be the most interesting next would be to remove the two passive radiators place the box back in it's loudest position and test just the subwoofer, then add one passive radiator test it. I'm curious how each one affects it

@mattneedham4749 Жыл бұрын

This is genius man really. I intend on following your example here for myself. I ain't gonna make no video but im dead ass serious about replicating it with the specs of my whip. I'm 5 months late but THANK YOU Sir. You've made a very impressive video here and it's 💯 correct everything you said and you didn't just prove it you even beat your original estimate. I just don't have the words... Just thank you for this knowledge. I'm putting it to use.

@SmalltimR 6 ай бұрын

Fascinating setup and demonstration - never considered passive radiators before, but this demo's got me thinking

@2002ZRX1200R Жыл бұрын

The ebp of the sub will determine it's low end roll off in a sealed enclosure, and adding radiators is the same as porting.

@Chris_Wolfgram Жыл бұрын

I know I have heard exactly what your saying about PR’s for a long time. But I’ve built a BUNCH of ported enclosures, probably more than 30 of them in the last 40 years…. I’ve been doing this for a while 🙂 And none of my ported setups sounded as good as my 18” PR setup. My previous enclosure with two 15”s were a little louder, but not as musical. Not sure why, but it is just the fact of the matter.

@2002ZRX1200R Жыл бұрын

@@Chris_Wolfgram enclosure design makes a difference. Without accurate tsp's proper enclosures or plots are impossible. Pr's are more friendly due to a potentially lower order rolloff, but nothing sounds better than a driver with good specs in it's optimum enclosure. TSP's are key.

@dabosssr24 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Ive played with both. And u dont have to have a ton of power in a ported enclosure if designed correctly. Port area and tuning will play a huge in how low itll play and still maintain a good bandwidth

@dabosssr24 Жыл бұрын

Ive found while wi isd helps a ton with designing a proper enclosure it doesnt take cabin vplume snd resona t into account. Another words the cabin will be a main factor in the overall final response.

@2002ZRX1200R Жыл бұрын

@@dabosssr24 It's not hard to factor that in once the cabin is mapped with an rta.

@tatialo37 Жыл бұрын

I like this box! Best of both worlds, sealed and ported!!!

@JonathanDillonfds-fx Жыл бұрын

I've always been told that passive radiators shouldn't exist on the same face as the active subwoofer. This was a nice post to see. Expanding my ideas for my build. Thanks.

@matthewmattson6881 Жыл бұрын

Kicker does it right out of the box with their comp RT line

@evilinside5984 Жыл бұрын

You are correct, passives perform best on opposite sides. Best performance is obtained by placing passive backwards= loads the lower freq. better, and helps with the rear wave time alignment to reinforce the front wave. If the guy in this video had the powered sub forward, and the passive backwards it would have performed even better. Also, i talked directly to the owner of earthquake about these slaps 12 inch passives. Most people like the guy making this video think you need 2 of the same dia. passive radiators, as 1 powered subwoofer,= you dont, its just suggested to use 2x the effective piston area. These slaps have just over 100mm= just over 4 inches of peak to peak x max, so you can use 1-12inch subwoofer(as long as it has 25mm of 1 way x max, or less), with 1- 12inch slaps, also earthquake recommends using the subwoofers rec. Sealed enclosure specs with their slaps units! So in this video, if he had bought a second subwoofer, and mounted them forwards( and used the same 2cu. Ft. total for both powered 12s, and 2-12inch slaps), and had the two 12inch slaps on the backside of the box, facing his rear tailights, this would have been really loud, and still deep!

@evilinside5984 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewmattson6881 Yes they do, and it sacrifices performance! They do it, because it fits. Any orientation will play/work. And will outperform the same regular sized sealed enclosure's low freq. extension, but it's not optimal.

@lllllllllllllllllllll1lll1 Жыл бұрын

It'll do aight on the same side of the box, it just takes more tuning to keep them in phase. A lot of builds don't get the phase right (which isn't that difficult to dial in) and it causes weird comb filtering effects. It's definitely doable, not quite as straightforward as tossing in a port and calling it a day.

@Luminous.Dynamics Ай бұрын

@@evilinside5984 So my pop has a regular cab pick up truck. We're taking out 3 Kicker Comp c10s (his brand choice, not mine) and he wanted just 2 Kicker CVR 10". The enclosure is for three 10" subs Could I just use a single 10" Kicker CVR and get two of these passive radiators, or should it be one per sub? The enclosure is about 1.5-1.75 cu ft total Id say, all one shared chamber, so I can always just seal one sub cut-out.

@datN.O.Colombiano Жыл бұрын

A friend of mine told me to try some PR's when I told him I wanted more bass but didn't want the weight. I did some looking and I found that they can actually add a decent amount of sound to your single sub set up. After this video, I think I'm gonna give it a go.

@robwithrbk Жыл бұрын

Technically, providing sound from the rear wave via ported enclosure is supposed to add +3db. I think a PR can do that at lower Db ranges. As the Db go up, the PR will probably struggle to keep up. But are great for a number of 140db type systems.

@jus1taj Жыл бұрын

That was freaking epic. Passive radiators are a hard sell but you did them justice.

@joeflaherty4702 Жыл бұрын

I've always got better performance and output by mounting passive radiator(s) on the opposite side of the woofer(s). They move opposite the sub cone due to pressure differential and so as to not cancel soundwaves the passive radiators always seem to more greatly improve output when mounted on opposite side of subwoofer baffle

@stevengoelzer Жыл бұрын

Word!

@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын

It works but not for the reasons you describe. First of all - passive radiators do not move opposite the subwoofer, until you get below the tuning frequency. The enclosure will gradually go out of phase below this, with a big cancellation notch where the passive radiator free air resonates, and also at single digit frequencies where the radiator is simply pushing out from air pressure. On a slow motion camera they are in phase or close to in phase throughout the pass band, or moving negligibly for the upper bass. Secondly, you can think of an enclosure as an expanding and contracting volume, so whether the speaker is on the back or the front, moving out or in doesn't make a difference. You have to think: Is this speaker expanding the enclosure volume or contracting it? What putting passive radiators on the back does is better balance the box. When the speaker is moving, the box is recoiling in the opposite direction, which for meaty car subwoofers can be significant compared to a lighter PA driver cone. Putting drivers on opposite sides means this vibration is cancelled (or reduced in the case of passive radiators that don't exactly imitate the driver) and less energy is used shaking the box if it's on a loose surface.

@SetchiPaunda Жыл бұрын

Great video. My first box I ever built in the 80s had two pioneer 10s with two 10 inch passive radiators. The flat style passive radiators.

@ShredRMK824 7 ай бұрын

I have a slaps12 runed around 32hz with one 12 dvc sub running on 460 rms, love it.

@quevicular Жыл бұрын

I am definitely going to try this in my ford ranger xtra cab.. Take a jump seat out and build a 12 into it with a passive radiator. Only makes sense after watching this video. Thanks BBH. Excellent video expalining in detail and showing the proof. More bass using wayyy less power and compromising the charging system. I love it. Im working with a TARAMPS 3000HD 1 OHM and that tiny amp is a freakin beast to say the least.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Cool idea

@pimpin94553 Жыл бұрын

I just watched a couple of your videos for the first time. Fantastic job. At first I thought this was a actual commercial for NVX subwoofer, your editing and close up shots were spot on. Keep up the good work! You just got a new subscriber.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@SoberBassHead Жыл бұрын

Wow!!! You just inspired me to change my entire build!! Great job!!

@NVXAudio Жыл бұрын

This is awesome!! Great work!

@L33zie Жыл бұрын

Bruh!! I am not a basshead anymore for , for 15 years now. I saw this in study, and ran a shallow 12 with 2 radiators behind my rear seat in my 250..im stil tuning them down but OMG!!!! I dont believe it!! The output is amazing. I ran earthquake magmas in my 20s, alternators, batteries, caps, name it.. so satisfied with this

@joshuakemp1439 Жыл бұрын

Awsome information video. The showing the 40hz moving the active driver and then lower on the radiators was kool. I had no idea thats what those did and i wunder why more arent using to get more out of thier builds. More room means more room to play in

@thebreakbarrelshow Жыл бұрын

You said " I don't know why there isn't more people running radiators ?" My answer is one word EDUCATION.. That goes for me too. This is the first video on radiators I've ever gave the time of day . Mostly because they just cant explain the process. I really enjoyed this and learned a lot. I watch a lot of your others as well. Well done sir !

@thebreakbarrelshow Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah , one question. How is this type in tight bass ? I love the blues , classic rock.. Sometimes i just wanna 'lower the dynamite ' showin my age there..lol

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Without the weights, they are very 'punchy'. BTW... I grew up on DJ Magic Mike as well. 💯

@thebreakbarrelshow Жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead Nemesis etc..lol ahhh the good old days..

@salvadordelgado2434 Жыл бұрын

I once took the passive radiator off a blown infinity basslink 10" and added it to a sealed underseat truck enclosure, made a huge difference.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Yep. More displacement

@cheezst8ke Жыл бұрын

You are right with you don't need a trunk full of subs. Back in the early 90s a friend of mine put a system in his 79 Pontiac Bonnevile 2 door. He had two Rockford Fosgate 15 inch woofers in a homemade sealed box stuffed in the trunk for bass, two Pioneer 4 way 6x9s mounted to the rear deck set for mids and highs, and a 1,000 watt amp for power. It wasn't anything fancy but it sure had some good bass for a throw together system.

@waynsmith9538 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this demo, I believe I am going to copy it in both of my vehicles.

@choosetherightify Жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm a huge fan of Passive Radiators. It's important to point out that an enclosure with passive radiators is technically a bass reflex enclosure, but superior in that there is no need for a massive, space consuming port AND no port noise. This is definitely the best way to get a smaller enclosure with better low end bass extension. These are also far easier to tune by adding mass vs lengthening or shortening the port.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@joeymitsurax5153 3 ай бұрын

Bro!! Thank you for making this video!! It is very inspiring to try and attempt my own build. I'm definitely considering the passive woofer now that I understand how big a difference it can make!! Thanks again

@homerbuntin4751 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see you test this setup with one of the radiators unweighted and the other with both weights attached to it. Three different tuning frequencies in one enclosure would be pretty interesting.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Stop giving away my next video, bro! 😄 I guess great minds DO think alike.

@EddieMonsta Жыл бұрын

That's going to start to cause some cancellation because of the change in phase...

@zod-engineering-welding Жыл бұрын

I've modeled this in Akabak, and it won't work like you probably think it does. It would be similar to installing ports of different areas/lengths in a box and expecting multiple tuning frequencies compared to a standard vented enclosure. It simply doesn't work that way. All you get a is a group-delay and phase-shift nightmare.

@toxictator4561 Жыл бұрын

@@zod-engineering-welding Taking car resonance and other variables that come with in world testing in mind , id say it would still be an interesting test to see what kind of frequencies peaks and phase issues are present.

@choosetherightify Жыл бұрын

It would have the same effect as two different port with different port lengths, the two will be summed for an average tuning frequency.... However with PRs you can run into other problems with varying tuning frequencies between PRs. I'm all for the science though. do it and let's see what happens.

@ENGINEERCombat Жыл бұрын

this guy does an excellnt job describing the whole design process... Accurate and informative!

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@rynev3392 Жыл бұрын

Great detailed video, lots of good information that people in car audio should understand 👍🏻

@________GHOST________ Жыл бұрын

Hmm nice experiment here but like i tell everyone XMAX IS KEY THE MORE 1ONE BY INCHES IN AND OUT THE DEEPER THE LOWS This is real science apply what you are doing here sir thank you. THE NATURE OF SOUND IS EPIC BY FAR.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@silverjava1one971 Жыл бұрын

Keep it up . Never really thought about passive radiators.

@dominikspencer3981 4 ай бұрын

Wow! Ive been doing car audio since 1984 lol, and Ive heard about using passive radiators throughout, but it seemed so complicated, and seemed like the rewards were minimal. But your tutorial here is simply Mindblowing!! This will be one of my near future builds in one of my cars. Excellent video, thank you!! Subbed!!!!

@BudgetBassHead 4 ай бұрын

Keep us posted on the build!

@dominikspencer3981 4 ай бұрын

@BudgetBassHead will do, will probably begin in a few months. I'm probably going to look into either a couple 8s or a 10, using the same M12 passive radiators. I'll see how it looks on computer modeling first before I start the build. Thx!!

@ruthlesslegion1016 Жыл бұрын

Wow that sounds amazing.. very clean and deep. I used too experiment with PRs in home theater systems way back when..

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@msh6865 Жыл бұрын

Love this build and approach. No need to give up your trunk to get sub-40Hz extension. I love deep sub bass but, am not a fan of ported enclosures. The bass they create is many times just loose and flabby. No detail. Great solution here. Those glamour shots of the NVX sub are outstanding. Very well done video. Like those two furry woofers too! Lol!

@slickwillybudgetking Жыл бұрын

Despite enclosure, one of the absolute best and overlooked subs available. VCW.

@jasonlopez4855 Жыл бұрын

The passive radiators were big time in the 80's and 90's my son is telling me to make one too show him. I keep telling him how good they are in a good box.

@jonathongaleano2893 Жыл бұрын

That is very impressive!

@heavy12inchsub79 Жыл бұрын

Loving the quality of your camera brother ❤️. Outstanding!

@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Жыл бұрын

Loved this video! I definitely want to see a thorough 'Sketchup' video! Thanks for all your hard work, appreciated!

@astro54541 Жыл бұрын

This video was amazing!!! I loved every bit of it. It gave me a lot of Insight…Thank you 👍

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@cdshawn Жыл бұрын

Right...got my basement booming!!

@brentongarsden4949 Жыл бұрын

So good and so informative! I watched the video twice now. Love it!! Thabk you

@incredifunk 2 ай бұрын

Hey man your videos have come a long way. Watched a few prior but you've really upped ur game. You've got a new subscriber here... And yeah I would like to see more on the sketchup of different enclosures. As you requested I'm commenting here to request just that... Really like the technical aspect of your videos!

@BudgetBassHead 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for hanging in there with me.

@garagaoz Жыл бұрын

Amazing results! great video Amigo.

@robindas1207 Жыл бұрын

nice demo very informative and clear explanations.

@bojow8102 Жыл бұрын

This is an awesome budget build! And quality, NVX is good stuff 👍 Get your trunk back!👍

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

That's the plan!

@Eccentricvoice77 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!

@laurantsmccloskey5927 Жыл бұрын

Another fantastic & highly educational video! Awesome work!

@nickstalhood5380 Жыл бұрын

Cool vid man and i definitely love the idea of passive radiators or just creative builds all together. I actually used a 4in subwoofer to push a 15im sub in a molded plastic enclosure nack in the late 90s. The results were pretty impressive since i was getting almost that same output at just a few hundred watts as i was if was to hook up the 15in itself. Obviously if i threw more power at the 15 it would definitely be louder, but nevertheless cool that a 4in moved that much arin in the enclosure to make the 15 resonate the way it did.

@s.o.s.exploration2412 Жыл бұрын

I have always loved and stand by sealed boxes. The sound, the feel, and the response of the notes hitting so hard I have not been able to replicate in a ported box.

@chrisselke449 Жыл бұрын

Infinite baffle is the only way to go

@91CavGT5 Жыл бұрын

I recently finished a budget build with eight 6.5” woofers in an infinite baffle setup and I have to agree. Kick drums are felt in my chest. Despite the small drivers, low end response is VERY useable down to 30 hz with useable output down to 25 hz!! All woofers were wired to a single 2 ohm load. With the JP8 amplifier running them, actual power output to the woofers is only around 500 watts total. The bass is VERY clean despite the less than $100 total spent on woofers and wood.

@PhatkatCollections Жыл бұрын

This is not a sealed box when you have passive radiators

@s.o.s.exploration2412 Жыл бұрын

@@PhatkatCollections indeed. I still stand by my preference

@PhatkatCollections Жыл бұрын

@@s.o.s.exploration2412 sorry man I wasn't critiquing you, I just misread the comment. I was just stating that adding passive radiators is a ported setup. It no longer considered a sealed enclosure.

@kingwillie206 Жыл бұрын

This video was incredible my man!

@cdmalton1806 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff!

@srarcade Жыл бұрын

Smart man right here! Great stuff, absolutely considering something like this

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@dagriz Жыл бұрын

Great vid!! Impressive db for only 1000 watts 🔊🔊🔊 keep up the awesome content man 🔊🤘😑🤘🔊

@aaronsmith8990 Жыл бұрын

Nice never knew about them thanks

@ballen1569 Жыл бұрын

Passive rad setup, sealed and IB always sound so good!

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

@smellthatgas442 Жыл бұрын

Wow im doing this to all my cars big thanks to you 💸💸

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

@crttechs873 Жыл бұрын

This is how you do it brother 🔥

@mechmanalternators Жыл бұрын

Very nice! Good to see more high efficiency builds/projects coming together.

@tonyb022377 Жыл бұрын

@@DTW-bx2vy yeeeeaaaa, you can sit back down now.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Most PA speakers have a sensitivity rating in the mid 90s. That's considered efficient in car audio.

@kone.linngus3651 Жыл бұрын

Kicker is known for using a passive radiator. If you see a kicker sealed enclosure with two 12s and they look like two different subwoofers, one is a sub and the other is the passive radiator

@nathanpierre1868 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, you saved me a lot of money, time, resources and labor costs. I just have to work the math out properly in order to pair the right passives with the right subs

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@nathanpierre1868 Жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead Yea you have no idea how much it helped, was initially going for the nvx 12 inch but im deciding to save a bit more and buy one HIPPO XL 2000w 10 inch which plays louder, uses more power and has way more excursion compared to the 12 and 10 inch nvx offerings. Still though, im going to use passive radiators with it, two 10 inch slaps and run the math through the app winisd to get the box size i want for the frequency i want, i wanna tune for 30-37hz. My aim is to have a box smaller than yours since im using 10 inch subs that have slightly bigger magnets but get the same or greater spl output and frequency compared to yours, tho needing more power to do it, just less space (i think). Its going to go in the back of a 2016 ford everest with the third row seats staying up. With the sub/box facing the ceiling.

@evilinside5984 Жыл бұрын

Just make sure to get a passive with @ least 2x piston area= not 2x cone area, the guy in this video only needs 1 of these slaps 12inch passives. And dont run them on the same plane=not the best performance. You can run 1 of these 12inch slaps to 1 powered 12inch sub with 25mm of 1 way x max, or less. Best performance is had with powered sub forwards, and passive backwards, and use a woofer that sounds great in a sealed enclosure, and use sub. Mfg. Sealed box cu. Ft. Rec. Specs= not the ported specs like most people think, if you dont believe me call earthquake and ask the owner/designer, i did!

@troshaffer4921 10 ай бұрын

I remember using passive radiators on some old JBL's way back, sounded amazing. & I definitely wanna get into making renderings of my trunk & do the calculations for the response etc. I've been using apps etc, would love to learn that. awesome video man.

@johndeleon713 Жыл бұрын

Definitely would love to see you run this test back with the sub wired to a 1 ohm configuration 🙏 love the channel bro.. big fan

@vincebowling1778 Жыл бұрын

Very impressive! Great video and thanks for sharing the info!

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@louwilliams627 Жыл бұрын

I've built a sealed 3.2cubic ft 3/4" birch box for a 12" Massive Audio Summo XL AND two of these M12s. Going to run a 3k at 2ohms to the dvc 4ohm sub to it, leave it turned down at first, but super stoked the prs came today!

@mr.v2666 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Video thanks for sharing thanks for testing. That was epic.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@tetorro5365 9 ай бұрын

That is quality sound in passive radiator 🎉

@raulfernandez9111 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for doing an in depth review on the slaps and how the weights affect it.

@BudgetBassHead 2 ай бұрын

Glad that I can be up some assistance. 👍

@gulag_inmate69 Жыл бұрын

its all in the box design for sure

@earlkalas9301 Жыл бұрын

Passive Radiator isn't a sealed alignment, it's a bass reflex or ported alignment. The passive Radiator acts as a port and requires a subsonic filter, just as a vented enclosure does. So the passive Radiator doesn't over excurse

@myevilbanana Жыл бұрын

Tutorial of sketch up please! Great video always been interested in passive radiators but never tried one

@timandersen1602 Жыл бұрын

Been digging passive radiators for over 20 years. Don’t buy them, I take my old blown subs and remove the motor then fill the dust cap with wax and lead pellets. P.R.’s are often as much if not more than many subwoofers. These earthquakes seem to be quite the banging budget basshead bad boys. May actually have to buy a couple. Funny story the first one I made was an 8” that I paired with a 12”…. Yeah learned that lesson quickly. 🤣

@kingwillie206 Жыл бұрын

Let me guess….You thrashed the 8? 😂

@robleeva Жыл бұрын

Good stuff brother. I'm installing a PR asap

@Silver12LTZ Жыл бұрын

I have a Kicker Comp R 12 in a sealed Sound Ordinance box at 1.27 cubic feet and a Kicker Comp VR 15 in a sealed BBOX at 2.06 cubic feet in a 2014 Passat. They both get extremely low with the seats folded up playing in the 20 hertz range

@TechnikToni-Overtribe Жыл бұрын

Actually a passive radiator works almost the same as a port cause they resonate at the frequency they are tuned to just like a port, the big benefit of a PR is that it basically does not use up any enclosure space like a port would do with the same tuning in the same volume

@zod-engineering-welding Жыл бұрын

Exactly right! While physically the inside is sealed off from the outside this is not a traditional sealed enclosure as it is claimed to be. The PR changes the system to a Helmholtz double-mass double-spring oscillator aka: it works almost exactly like a ported enclosure with the only main difference in the output is there is a notch in the frequency response that corresponds to the PRs free-air Fs. People should study acoustics and electromagnetic field theory a lot more before they profess incorrect "facts".

@NikoAbston Жыл бұрын

love it. great video. great great video

@freedomisacred1495 4 ай бұрын

I had three 10” punch dvc’s on a punch 500a2 at a 2.6 ohm load and it rocked

@willsteele9249 Жыл бұрын

Great video I have a sealed boxed with two 12 American Bass xfl on a kicker kx2400.1 very musical thanks and great to see you're back as well and I subbed!!!!!!!!

@Luminous.Dynamics Жыл бұрын

How large is your sealed Box in cubic feet

@Satch_4_Hogs Жыл бұрын

I love PR's. At the PR tuned frequency, you get the benefits of a ported enclosure, usually low end, as the PR's resonate at the tuned frequency like a port. As you move away from the PR tuned frequency, you gain more and more of the benefits of a sealed enclosure. I have a PR tuned to around 23 Hz. Above say 60 Hz, The PR barely moves at all. The higher frequencies are tight and punchy.

@Luminous.Dynamics Ай бұрын

Would you recommend a low tuned passive radiator in conjuction with a Kicker CVR 10"? Box is sealed. That kicker sub seems to favor the higher frequencies. I just want it louder and to play a bit lower for my pops regular cab pick up. Or would you recommend tuning it around where the sub shines more?

@Satch_4_Hogs Ай бұрын

@@Luminous.Dynamics My suggestion is to put the sub and PR into a box calculator like WinISD. See how the sim looks to you. Iow tuned is a relative concept. low tuned in regards to the subs ability to play low, or considering the subs lower limits.

@jcooksey19 Жыл бұрын

Definitely looks interesting

@michaelvita8 11 ай бұрын

I definitely learned something new from this video thanks

@stevenyoung3360 Жыл бұрын

Very cool. I have always thought that proper passive radiator setups sounded great musically even though there have been many people that say to stay away from them. I never really understood the hate for them when my ears liked what I was hearing.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I think people focus too much on trending builds than the science available. Passive Radiators are very simple and should at least be tried.

@stevenyoung3360 Жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead I think after most people experience the extension down low they can add it could bring a lot of people around to them. It's one thing to watch it on a video and another thing to hear and feel it for yourself.

@trollslayer8260 Жыл бұрын

Its because its in between sq and spl. Sound in the upper frequencies of bass have a slightly blurred sound sometimes as compared to sealed and although they have better output, its not as much as ported. The only problem with this is most people are bent one way or the other. I personally like p.r. s, i have had the slaps and i currently have the pump . They are great for a daily driver and have near sealed box sq.

@chandlerlofton6536 Жыл бұрын

I have a hot rod regular cab Silverado for my daily driver. It has very limited space so this video has me thinking about a potential setup.

@bigcountry55 Жыл бұрын

I would really like to see a vid of sketchup "How-To" when you get the time. I really enjoy your 3d renders or trunk volume, box volume, etc.

@jjmccloud Жыл бұрын

I have a pair of these 15" next subs I bought like 4 yrs ago brand new still lol I hooked 1 up and played it about 4hrs worth in a temporary setup with the next jad1200 amp and man I was impressed, however I sold that truck so all my stuff is just waiting on me to do my next build 😆 went all nvx with subs, amps, and mids. Even though its been a few years and newer stuff may be out now I'm still impressed with nvx for sure

@jjmccloud Жыл бұрын

Even the medium level subs are nice for the average person but the vcw series is pretty damn amazing for the price

@dioniciotapiz3288 Жыл бұрын

Now time for a video with that same sub ported . I'm very interested

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

I got one coming soon. Dual setup.

@Duhpression999 Жыл бұрын

I have two NVX 12s on 3k and it beats tf down I highly recommend for entry level setups

@dioniciotapiz3288 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a great video Sir.

@lynel1985 Жыл бұрын

this guy and vids are a masterclass

@izzzzzz6 Ай бұрын

I love this sort of stuff. 32 years ago probably I made my first car audio setup. I had found 8x ok full range drivers from a scrap yard. I put 8 in a parcel shelf of my ford Escort MkIII In the UK. I wired it to make the same impedance 2 in parallel in series with another 2 in parallel per side. I had probably an amplified EQ . Max 100W I guess. It was huge. lol After that I built a huge box with 2x 10" Pro Plus then i put them in an Austin Mini with the 2x 10" Pro plus in 2x sealed boxes and 1x 18" in the rear shelf but modified, i cut the rear seats out! Later i put 2x 15" in the rear shelf. In the front i had 4x kenwood co-axial facing the driver and 2x Kenwood 150W tweeters on top reflecting back from the windscreen. Everything was amped up Kenwood except the 4x mids/fullrange which were running direct from the head unit. first it was a pioneer 9100 and then a 9500 flip front cassette bot with remote that had the learn function (which I still have in storage) and a small multi play all mounted in the dash behind a lockable steel panel with a fake ford radio hiding the yale lock. All hidden behind acoustic cloth. Shame i crashed the car. Oh well, it's a good story now but that car would be worth around 30,000 if i still had it now. That's the way she goes when we get a bit loose! Shit. I just destroyed my pasta. lol

@BudgetBassHead Ай бұрын

It sounds like you had a lot of fun with those builds! 😁 Thanks for sharing 👍

@stormyyoung6344 Жыл бұрын

Cool video looks like you put some work in on this one

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Yeah I did. Took over a week to shoot, edit, and post. I hope you guys like it.

@808teckie6 Жыл бұрын

Passive radiator set ups are classified as ported boxes since the radiator basically has the same function as a port. The difference is how the port or radiator is tuned. In general, if you want to lower the tuning frequency of a ported box, you lengthen the port and/ or make it a smaller diameter. In a passive radiator set up, you add mass to the radiator. Both do the same thing, they change the resonant frequency of the enclosure. Ported and passive radiator setups share the same characteristics, in general you get a nice boost above the tuning frequency, and a steep roll off below it. I've modeled and tested both setups and if tuned to the same frequency, the sound and output are very similar. The main advantage of pr setups is you can tune low without having a long port, which makes it ideal for compact set ups that simply cannot accommodate a long port due to size restrictions.

@EddieMonsta Жыл бұрын

Great video 💪

@MrRupus2020 Жыл бұрын

I built a thin sealed truck box for my Samarai back in 89-90 with a 12" CV and a passive radiator and it was one of the most effective builds I ever had. Less than 200 Watts. In a convertible so the sound would carry.

@chrisristau8803 Жыл бұрын

Sealed for the win

@hayzeproductions7093 Жыл бұрын

yes Yes YES!!!!! You definitely made a build that was on my mind the past 2 years. Definitely worth subbing this mans yt channel Edit: I noticed the passive radiator from the left side moves more than the one in the middle. Im assuming that placing the sub in middle and both passive's on the ends would give equal tone and motion rather than far offset because the sub is on 1 side of box, and middle radiator barely does anything due to pressure in box flows all the way to the end radiator.

@TimpBizkit 8 ай бұрын

I would like it symmetrical as well, because I prefer the look (and perhaps the driver cone will move more on centre with symmetrical air load) although the box is probably small enough that the soundwave inside the box doesn't have too much delay in syncing the passive radiators.