Buffalo Bills moneyball approach to WRs, value of Dalton Kincaid, longshots, kicking off and more!

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22 күн бұрын

The Buffalo Bills are taking a moneyball approach to the wide receiver position. Is it smart? Are other teams doing this? Is there economic value in Dalton Kincaid being the primary option in the passing game? On today’s episode, Host Joe Marino offers insight on those dynamics in addition to a host of Herd Mentality items. The show is focused on the Buffalo Bills, Sean McDermott, Brandon Beane, Joe Brady, Josh Allen, Gable Steveson, Dalton Kincaid, Sedrick Van Pran Granger, Connor McGovern, David Edwards, Tommy Doyle, Chase Claypool, Khalil Shakir, Curtis Samuel, Keon Coleman, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Bobby Babich, Ed Oliver, Von Miller, Matt Milano, Terrel Bernard and more!
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@scottblakely4419 21 күн бұрын

Anyone else hit the like button before Joe finishes his first sentence ? Always delivers - guaranteed!

@SondraLKing 21 күн бұрын

Absolutely #GOBILLS 💙❤

@mongoosemcmongoose2786 21 күн бұрын

I hit it before the yt ad even finishes 😂

@cameronmorrison4502 21 күн бұрын

I do every time he drops a new vid!!

@Barrett49cal 21 күн бұрын

Homies doing tricks on it

@TheRickyman57 21 күн бұрын

Every time!! 😂😂👍

@mattrollins7506 21 күн бұрын

Based on the WR market lately, having a superstar TE as your first option is genius.

@user-gr1gy9rq4h 21 күн бұрын

Assuming the OC takes adantage of said TE. I am excited and curious to see how Brady uses Kincaid and improves the running back pass game productivity in his offense. I do think the flexibility Curtis Samuel brings keeps defenses on their toes.

@amydarley3822 20 күн бұрын

The Bills have become America’s team, no doubt. So many people want to see these guys hoisting that trophy next February in a sea of blue and red confetti. Getting goosebumps here!

@user-ox2on5dy4d 20 күн бұрын

God bless you I feel it coming

@burneraccount7510 17 күн бұрын

Ain’t no damn bills Americas team.. that title goes to pat mahomes and the chiefs! You gotta actually win championships to be americas team. Lemme guess u must be a cowgirls fan too.. delusional comment

@spencerduncan 21 күн бұрын

Of all the content on the Bills I watch, yours is tops. I have a couple others that are close, but yours seems to end up in the top 2 every week, and mostly at #1. Guess I don't have to say this, but here goes anyway. Keep up the great work and excellent content.

@BillsMafiaEy 21 күн бұрын

I love how joe gives us great content in detail with all topics. Sick of turning on sports radio to hear how a host was on vacation and blabber on about it for 20 mins. (WGR 550)

@RobertAWilson 21 күн бұрын

Good Morning Joe thank you for locked on Bills.

@miguelabarca8724 17 күн бұрын

So glad to see a moneyball reference, I’ve been saying that for the whole offseason.

@aeb814 20 күн бұрын

The perspective of the general media about the Bill’s WR situation is interesting. Basically, “Chase Claypool being the most productive WR in OTA’s thus far probably does not bode well for Josh Allen.” However, I like the versatility and game planning around player’s strengths. All eyes on Josh Allen.

@sal4856 20 күн бұрын

Bills way ahead of the curve matter of time before receivers go the way of running backs,owners will stop the crazy salaries and go to the draft and free agents

@kriyashivajiva 20 күн бұрын

coach Marino gettin fit! always great content

@erivej 21 күн бұрын

Kickoffs out of the end zone start at the 30 yard line. If kick coverage has the potential to be a disaster for some kicking teams, I see coaches having no problem just kicking it out of the end zone.

@MrRanger316 20 күн бұрын

Sick hat Joe.

@markcaruana2697 21 күн бұрын

I agree with the moneyball approach at wr, that being said next year depending on how many wr's they keep, they should take more swings at it in the draft. Pick 2wr's and a few edge players. We have QB, left tackle, let's draft the high dollar positions and get low cost free agents for other positions.

@Miniath 20 күн бұрын

I'm firmly about paying top level talent if you find it, but with the money constraints of having the second best player in the NFL, I'm pretty comfortable with letting suitable starters walk. the bills are in a spot where they can attract free agent talent through josh allen and the allure of winning. we dont need to pay money to average starters to keep them here. draft and develop and if you find something special pay that man. this is obviously within reason and you want to feel comfortable without throwing all of your responsibility on rookie contracts, but you have to pick and choose, and i think the coaching staff can get suitable play out of draft picks but its hard to coach into gamechanging players.

@countryboy8643 20 күн бұрын

man and think we could've had JJ and JA on rookie deals at the same time..sheesh

@rgrtitans2510 21 күн бұрын

Nice hat, where did you get it? I’ve been rocking the same one for years now but I’m too picky to get a new one

@chap102401 21 күн бұрын

I feel like your going to see the WR market change in the next 3-4 yrs as the WR position is going to be stacked and flooded with talent with all the 7 on 7' s and how much is being poured into the WR position.

@williamschock3240 21 күн бұрын

Has a WR ever not been the second best paid position?

@dustinstella6656 21 күн бұрын

SVPG can definitely be the Shakir of this draft class. They're both players who probably dropped to the 5th because they didn't reach arm length thresholds.

@jd229 21 күн бұрын

Something no one talks about with deals is the money making side of football, not just the team value. Jj is the vikings best player, he's the best receiver in the nfl. The amount of revenue that he alone drives for the vikings is enormous. Same for a guy like tyreek hill or devante adams. Even tho the raiders suck you'd go watch him play or buy his jersey.

@dertyjerzy6644 21 күн бұрын

If you kick the ball out of the end zone for a touchback it goes to the 30 not the 35

@ricblic901 21 күн бұрын

Speaking of Tua, how is Miami able to pay 2 WR's combined about 60 million and then throw in Tua at about 50 million that's 110 million tied up in three players.

@bjgibson32 20 күн бұрын

Well they did let some good defensive players walk with out paying them and they have have some young players on defense as well to hopefully fill their gaps for that fan base 😂

@unlimited_pizza 18 күн бұрын

The cap is real but is also somewhat flexible. Expect a big signing bonus for tua prorated over 5 years+. Also expect his salary (pay per game) to be league minimum the first year or two.

@johnbarth684 21 күн бұрын

They should have an incentive in Josh's contract. If he wins a Super Bowl, he gets 30 million.

@Chudley716 19 күн бұрын

Moneyball was based on identifying inefficiencies in the player market through advanced statistics. That’s not how the Bills got to this juncture. Rather, they neglected WR in the early rounds of the draft for years. Thus they don’t have good established core receivers. They have either veteran question marks like MVS and Hollins or emerging receivers like Shakir and hopefully Coleman. There is very little evidence yet that the Bills have identified undervalued players through analytics, which is what Moneyball is about. It’s not simply hire the cheapest players, you have to extract excess value by finding some diamonds in the rough. Otherwise you paid for low value and got low value. Maybe it will prove out with Samuel, hope so.

@davidmaly5464 20 күн бұрын

Who else has/had the money ball approach to WRs??? The two dynasties of the 21st century... Brady's Patriots and Mahomes' Chiefs... When you have QBs like that you protect them and build the defense...

@adammaurer6271 21 күн бұрын

Bishop seems like a great athlete. I would not be surprised if they let him practice kickoffs. We have all seen Tyler Bass try to tackle...it's ugly.

@christ6927 20 күн бұрын

Should use the old intro into the new outro

@rockutron9000 21 күн бұрын

The major dice roll is in a historically deep draft for WR's, they picked a project that probably would have been there in the third and got nothing else. We're relying on players off the scrap heap to go along with our drafted players like Shakir, Kincaid, and Knox who are all nice players, but there was an opportunity to get young, cheap, possibly game breaking talent and they went moneyball instead. Outside of Beasley and Emanuel Sanders for a minute, this approach has failed.

@richiedubs1062 21 күн бұрын

..and don't have your best player be your Punter... 2000's Bills.

@minuano08 21 күн бұрын

I'm thinking, given the number of new players .. it'll be 3 days. #3 'optional' for seasoned players.🤔

@DEVILDOG1964 21 күн бұрын

LET'S DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO WIN A SUPERBOWL PERIOD THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!!

@Buffalo_Live 21 күн бұрын

Algo

@markmurphy558 21 күн бұрын

Why does Joe hide behind that microphone.

@user-jn7yz7xw5s 21 күн бұрын

Isn’t there a new Buffalo Bills player that did kicking in college?

@nickahlers 21 күн бұрын

I hate that this is called a moneyball approach the Packers and Bills like it’s some intentional thing if they had Justin Jefferson or Ceedee Lamb they would pay them all the money. It’s pretty simple if you have a premium player pay them if you don’t look for good value.

@ravenclaw9122 20 күн бұрын

You must not remember the packers willingly let Davante Adams go and we just let diggs walk. Its definitely a conscious choice. Hence moneyball.

@natividadsalinasii2629 20 күн бұрын

Everybody else is going to have to wait for JJ to reset the market. JJ is going to be the high standards

@cyndilu9 19 күн бұрын

Great show Joe - Go Bills ❤🙏🩵💪✌️

@preppy890 19 күн бұрын

UDFA Levi Wallace got no love?

@khrisshultz2532 21 күн бұрын

I disagree with what you said about "paying the QB is part of the formula to making it to the superbowl" look at tom Brady his first couple seasons and brock purdy

@thedeadmonkey 21 күн бұрын

Love the show. I've been a Bills fan since 1966 and this season I think this team can beat anyone in the league Top to bottom this is a championship team. Oh by the way JOSH ALLEN IS A MUTHAFUKIN BADASS!!!

@kenbash2951 19 күн бұрын

IMHO- Diggs was a locker room and sideline cancer. In addition- he would disappear in games at a time. Why keep a guy who poisons your locker room and disappears- regardless of his contract. He had 4 years to take the Bills to the next level and didn't get it done. The wide receiver room looks like it does mainly because the Bills were DONE with Diggs. It clearly wasn't a move to save money, so I don't buy the money ball thing.

@user-ox2on5dy4d 20 күн бұрын

Joe did you hear who they are trying to get. Fried is a 49's fan and He said Dee bow been talking to the bills

@ashleylindberg2869 20 күн бұрын

How much was Diggs a cancer behind the scenes for them to lose 30 mil against the cap

@jf13579 20 күн бұрын

It was definitely time for a change

@mongoosemcmongoose2786 21 күн бұрын

The chiefs just won back to back sbs on the backs of “moneyball/aggregate” wr rooms, an elite team, defense, and pat mahomes Bills are literally running the same formula, yet the universe acts like Buffalo has no chance!!

@SondraLKing 21 күн бұрын

#IBILLIEVE 💙❤

@JungleJym 21 күн бұрын

... They also have big red calling plays

@JamesB-mi9uu 21 күн бұрын

The Chiefs did it off winning a Super Bowl with a hof TE and the best qb since Brady I can see why the Bills lowballing there offense would make people wary of them