99.9% of the people will not be able to "bug out." They will not have the equipment, the physical strength, the know how, or even a place to go.

Let's be brutally honest. "Bugging out" is word salad for being a refuge. Bugging out is absolutely last resort.

Vast majority of people should be hunkering down instead of bugging out. This is why community building is important. No one wants to take the time to get to know their neighbors anymore. Everyone would rather run away.

Was in Sri Lanka last year when SHTF. No gas, rolling blackouts, Pharmaceuticals ran out……my choice was to bug in for a week. During that time the hordes of people protesting made bugging out to the airport impossible. As for my gear….carrying a pack only drew attention. So I ditched everything except sensitive items and arrived to my safe location with the clothing on me and small day pack. Bugging out is the last resort. JM Alaska

As a husband & a father of two after watching this video… I’m facing the hard reality that they will probably get me killed if things go completely off the rails. 😔

I like that your helping many preppers come to grips with reality on so many aspects of prepping and "Bugging out" and how much one can realistically carry. Since the overwhelming majority of preppers arent Active Duty Infantry with 12, 20, 40 mile rucking skills, and many if not most may be Vets, the reality of 'Your not in the military anymore, there is no NO RESUPPLY of Food, Water, Ammo' anymore coupled with the fact that 99.9% of us CANNOT carry a 100-150 pack on foot anymore for Months on end needs to be faced. There are gonna be some tough choices on loadouts for any bags. Water purification/storage over ammo, Chest Rigs over Plate Carriers, Concentrated Emergency High Calorie Rations over MREs to get buy when Hunting Gathering is dry. Any Real long term SHTF scenario is gonna be the worst kind of SuckFest any of us have ever faced. There is NO Romance in that. Just hard days and choices.

I admit I have a Rush 72 as part of my bugout kit, but it is the first aid kit, I also have an IFAK with it that is separate. I also know the area and my and my families abilities enough to know I won't be bugging out on foot, I just live to far away from anywhere that would be a good bugout location. If it isn't by car I am probably going to die at my house. Great video, got to keep it real!

Nailed it! I’ve been arguing many of these same points all along. No matter what you do, it boils down to a man-portable system. Learn to make do with as little gear as you can. Our bug out-bag is an enormous duffle that is ready to go, knowing full well the majority of it will be left behind. Don’t know what season or situations will be present at hour zero, but I’ll not fuck us for lack of planning!

On hunting, I became aware of how fragile civilization can be during the Cuban Missile Crisis when I was just five. My father was in the USAF and assigned to Spangdahlem and the dependent families were ordered to wear their dog tags and have their single packed suitcase per person with them when they spend their nights sleeping in the base housing fallout shelters. I recall my blood being drawn from a finger so that my blood type could be stamped on my dog tag two years prior. Non-combatant Evacuation Operations are SNAFU. With this background and being taught how to hunt by my father, I realized a lot of things. First, a disaster such as nuclear war was going to impact the wildlife that I might hunt. I witnessed a controlled burn--a forest fire. The day before there had been squirrels and birds and other tasty animals. After the fire, there were a few charred dead animals but the birds and squirrels were noticeable by their absence. A single snake took up residence in my yard until the snake was eliminated--and then wildlife ceased to exist. Second, we starving humans will drive off or kill off all edible animals in a short time. As an illiterate young lad in West Germany, the old folks talked about how during and after the two World Wars there was no deer or rabbit left because those had been eaten. A thousand people don't have to be GOOD hunters to strip the wilderness of all edible animals--and plants--just a lot of them going out and hunting or gathering will get the job done due to the sheer number. Either they'll actually catch and kill all the rabbits or the surviving rabbits will have fled. It is entirely possible that the old folks were telling me how they had to walk thirty kilometers uphill both ways through August snow storms twice daily to attend school, so when I did learn to read and write and access information I looked up the wildlife management programs and researched how frontiersmen and the Indians managed to feed themselves in a howling wilderness. There's good reason why agriculture and animal husbandry exists. Third, you mentioned that ammunition has weight. I'm a range safety officer at my county's public rifle range and I'm in the process of getting official NRA certification as an instructor, plus in the military I handled ammunition as one of my duties. Five thousand rounds of .22 LR weighed 40 pounds, if I remember the shipping documents. I'm not going to be accurate in describing the heavy-duty cardboard shipping package as "the size of a bread box." I could only fit 4800 of those in a metal ammo can that had once held 800 linked 5.56mm rounds in M249 magazines. Audie Murphy would have thought himself wealthy beyond measure if I time travelled to Texas and gave him that can of 4800 .22 cartridges during the Depression Era--poor boys didn't get that much ammo because of poverty. The .22 Long Rifle cartridge is compact and light weight compared to big game centerfire cartridges or shotgun ammunition. I learned to appreciate lightweight ammunition and to conserve my shots, but even so, a supply of just 100 CCI MiniMag 36 grain hollow point cartridges sealed in a 1"x2"x6" plastic box (approximate measurements) was 13 ounces on my food scale. I might shave an ounce off the weight by repacking the ammo in a plastic baggie and make the dimensions more flexible, but ammo still has mass and bulk. Once I have the meat, I need to prepare it for consumption. Subsistence hunters in the past would often drink the blood of their prey and then gobble down the still-warm livers raw--they had built up a resistance to most of the diseases in their area, and if not, then the hunter died. Small animals can be eaten in one meal by one person. A large animal will have leftovers. Dead animals smell and attract both [predators and scavengers. When hunting or on military exercises or even when working as a security guard I'd pay attention to what the non-human animals were doing. A flock of crows drew my attention because there was a reason for their presence and that reason was often roadkill. Once "dinner" was dead, it has to be field dressed at the very least, parted out for portability, and that creates mess. Cooking is another layer of operational compromise. One advantage of pre-packaged rations is being able to feed with a minimum of smell, light, visible smoke, and residue. Nature will quickly reduce roadkill to a stain on the ground with fur, bones and feathers marking the spot. What do we careless and messy humans leave behind? Cooking involves heat and appliances, even if the "appliance" is little more than a stick to hang meat over a pile of hot coals. Could also just try drying the meat while chasing off hungry critters ranging in size from gnats to bears. We humans don't see bacteria and "out of sight is out of mind." Humans are the most dangerous predatory scavenger on the planet. Cook up a savory stew and under emergency conditions you'll be able to take an accurate census of every human in the neighborhood--if they don't shoot you or mob you and take that stew for their dinner. Back to ammunition weight--how many shots can you spare to save dinner? Storing what's left can be a problem for people used to storing their peanut butter in the fridge. I had a great deal of difficulty explaining the difference between Type A rations and Type B rations to Americans who always have a refrigerator. Explaining C-rations (the MRE is a C-ration) is usually a waste of time. When I read "Alas Babylon" (1959 by Pat Frank) I was still in high school but had camped out in excess of thirty days at a time. The protagonists "bugged in" at their homes in a rural area. One man filled his freezer with food--when a nuclear strike eliminated the electrical power plant, he suddenly was faced with a freezer full of meat and ice cream thawing out and beginning to rot. As a know-it-all high school brat, I wondered how a Korean War infantry officer had made that error--being without electricity and living out of a field pack isn't easy even with almost reliable daily resupply. Once I've harvested plant and animals in excess of the next meal, where do I store it, how do I carry it, and what measures do I take to limit my food rotting? One popular Old School measure was to eat as much as possible so that the food went to waist instead of going to waste. That's how wild animals survive from meal to meal--eat as much as possible. Bears and big cats might stash a partially eaten carcass for later. Some hoarding animals hide food gathered in times of plenty and visit their caches when food is hard to find--they don't have to carry all of their food at all times. Dried meat, pemmican, even canning are possible but require supplies and time and expertise. All of these things and more are considerations for bugging out. Once at the safe haven, these issues remain. I'm looking forward to your other presentations on these topics. I make it a point to learn something every day, even when I'm merely re-learning something I've forgotten.

The focus should be on community and pooling resources and skill sets, not running away.

I think most people interested in the notion of bugging anywhere should take a hard look at backcountry hunters. Most people will be humbled, quickly, by the loads involved and by the pricetags. Setting up to comfortably carry large loads across long distances is pain, physically and financially. And this is without factoring in armor, which I'd argue is almost mutually exclusive with the best hunting packs that would most comfortably carry that weight.

Final 2 bonus points were bottomless pits that deserve thier own episodes!!! Awesome content! Stoked for volume 2!!

Was a very high percentage of the people who cannot accept the truth when they hear it or see it. Some say the truth hurts. Reality can be a real kick thanks man stay safe

Can you imagine in a SHTF scenario millions of people “bugging out”? What a mess that would be.

Bravo Zulu! I'm with you 100%. Having spent twenty two years on active duty, and now retired I cannot help but giggle as well as cringe when I read the stories of people who THINK they have it all figured out regarding the "Bug Out". At times it is actually painful to listen to the scenario some explain about their bug out plan. The friends I have who have never served are especially fun to deal with as they gleen most of their knowledge from..... You guessed it. The internet!! While there are valuable sources such as you, many You tube warriors leave much off the table. I learned many things in my twenty two years on active duty. The two best lessons are; Murphy's Law is ALWAYS in effect, and NO plan lasts longer than first contact. I believe it was Mike Tyson who said, "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face". Keep the knowledge transfer coming.

Yep. Ammo and water are the heaviest things you'll be carrying. So, probably the most critical things to sort out before hand. Also, the watering holes are where animals and people go to the bathroom. Don't drink the poop water, fellas.

I tune in to your videos when I’m going for a drive and just listen to your knowledge. Appreciate you man.

The one thing about bugging out now in 2023 is all the land is "owned". you're more than likely to run across private property and then get shot at for trespassing.

That was a bunch of information in a short bit. Looking forward to the lock picking tools.

Carry a couple of empty bags, to carry loose items in your vehicle.

Surprised surplus didn't come up. Bought a ILBE for $150 a couple years back, and recently picked up a FILBE 3 day assault pack for $50. Both will outlast most anything else and are a fraction of the cost of tacticool brands and ultra lightweight backpacking stuff. I agree, people's minds usually go to the woods when they hear "bugging out" but that likely won't be the case as bugging out usually is an absolute last resort. It could mean quickly moving to the next town over due to natural disaster (flood, wildfire, chemical explosion, tornado, etc.). I consider my bugout bag(s) to be short term solutions with absolute necessities to get through a few days of travel or uncertainty as good people will likely stick together and work towards a solution in times of peril. Like you mentioned, the whole mentality of hiding in the woods alone and surviving is kind of ridiculous. Fun series!

So I’m guess my fanny pack full of 5.56 and peanut butter isn’t going to cut it 😂. Really I just gotta hope I live far enough out we don’t have to leave. I’ve got a kids so it’s pretty much impossible I do have a few grab bags ready but definitely the house would have to be destroyed before that’s an option

All very good points of what not to do, I’m sure the next vid will be good too! In most scenarios “bugging out” doesn’t seem like a good option to me but a regular 1-3 day camping/hiking setup should cover the same items outside of ammo(I can’t make myself spend the money for 5 different complete preloaded packs, hunting/day hike/longer term camping/get home/assault…primary goes in lightweight pouches that can be swapped from pack to pack when/if needed). A get home-ish pack should have a degree of all the “primary” NEEDS that would go in any pack besides an assault pack(an assault pack would be more focused on fighting/evading/moving fast hence the name). Like you said knowledge/training/experience/pre-planning is the most important…point being it would be nice if you’d do an “opposite” series on what ppl should do. Don’t get me wrong I like you busting chops over ppl doing stupid shit lol but teaching ppl the “right” way is arguably more valuable/important.

Bugging out is an absolute last resort. The roads are unusable, your house is gone, the utilities have been out for a long time. The government has failed. The financial system has failed. Otherwise you should be bugging in. I have rucked with armor, a heavy pack and a rifle. I also know the type of equipment you're talking about generally comes with a team of men and support. You can't use a standard military equipment system when you're alone or with just one partner. You do need a hybrid system including elements from lightweight backpacking and bushcraft in addition to military equipment. Some items should be rugged and military equipment works good in that case. Some items should be lightweight and backpacking gear works best for that. Some things facilitate long term survival and bushcraft gear does the trick for things like building a decent shelter or making the tools you'll need. If you've trained enough and can handle the weight, you can carry some very useful items. A do everything pot that's hard to destroy is better than a light weight mess kit and trying to carry a dozen little things that will wear out trying to do the same job. A collection of preserved heirloom seeds will help you feed yourself and remain sane. Maps are a must but you may need paper and some drawing tools to make your own map. A Bible goes in my bag. Remember the rule: two is one and one is none. I find a machete more useful and durable than an axe but you'll need a file and sharpening stone to keep it working. A block of wax can seal wood tools, waterproof fabrics and preserve chordage made from the landscape. A bow string can make the difference between making a usable bow or not. Pain killers can make you comfortable but Benadryl and Epinephrine can save your life. Knowledge should include: hunting for game you would actually want to eat, shelter building, foraging and knowing what you can safely eat including plants and mushrooms if it suits you, procuring water, finding direction, tool making, medicine in the wild, and all the basics like washing yourself and your gear, where to make your bathroom, and how to grow food. You should really be prepared to make your home a stronghold and keep that position as long as possible. If you think your location is going to become unsafe in an extended grid down situation, you should think about changing that while it's still possible.

Great information

Honestly, im doing EVERYTHING i have to, to bug "IN". I really dont want to be a glorified refugee. Thats why i have a "get home" bag in my vehicle. Much more practical than a bug out bag. But yes, information and training are SUPER ESSENTIAL for survival in a shtf environment. Great info!

Living in SE TN, I'd love to see someone (who hasn't trained) to carry 130lb bag in the summer or with a family. Some people don't plan ahead. The hunting & trapping remark got me laughing.😂

Bugging out should be an absolute last resort! If you do bug out either on foot or vehicle you are now placing a easier target on your back. Your house is your place of comfort, it’s where you have everything you need first of all. Second you have shelter, food water etc all at your finger tips! If you “bug out” you will be limited to weight capacity, food carrying limits, water carrying limits even with water filters you need water on hand at all times. You’re better off starting or having a MAG group or if bugging out travel in convoy at the first notice of news or information provided granted it’s 100% reliable to another location way before things get worse. If bugging out you will be limited to ammo/magazine capacity there is no resupply! There’s so much more at play if you plan to bug out!

The whole “big out bag” thing weirds me out. Where tf yall goin? All your shits at home. Fortify your castle and stay put.

Nobody was thinking about bug out bags before the show the walking dead came out.

Good stuff. I have two kids (3 and 6) so bugging out on foot is an absolute last resort.

I have an eberlestock Operator Pack for bugging out but I have an 5.11 Amp 72 as a get home bag... This video has me contemplating my choice of my get home bag.

You are spot on about the rush 72, I got one and it sucks, 😂

Good stuff, real world

Love the channel, subbed!

I learned about 15 years ago, in prepping my (then) "bug out bag," that there IS no "bugging out." You can never carry enough, and where are you going to go that doesn't make you and your family vulnerable targets? Conclusion: *There is ONLY "fighting for your home..."* So now, my "bug out bag" has become my LBV with fighting essentials--

Good stuff

Hadn't heard of P.A.C.E before, Thanks!

bug in. if shit gets to the point you have to leave, hopefully you have a plan for motor power mobility. rucking fucking sucks and you will tire out to the point where even the smallest tasks become a big deal. motor power mobility also extends your options.

Great info as always!!

back country packs already have proven tested with time. 72 hour 45 liter for everything else

Great feedback. Real talk, what we “NEED” to do is begin coming together and STOP allowing others to divide our country. We are United States citizens and thanks to God giving us the technology that exists, we don’t have to live in the woods. Sure, other countries are going through, and yes will will too if we continue to allow EXTREMISTS groups and the government to divide the country. Understand that we need a government to govern the country. It was Europeans that had issues with the government, left England, found land that was ALREADY found by Native Americans but those Europeans invaded, terrorized, and stole. Now in 2023 we have DOMESTIC TERRORISM / Extremists that have issues with the government and divide the country. It’s happening ALL OVER. We’re supposed to learn from our mistakes. Citizens of America, we don’t have to “bug out” anywhere. This is our country unless we allow another country to invade us like we see in other countries. We need to put God first and STOP trying to do things our way. He’s already laid out a plan and given us directions. God created us all so we should STOP the nonsense. I have 2 bug out bags (wisdom) and only because I have no idea when “American Citizens” will turn on their own. Wake up EVERYONE. Color / Race / Culture is NOT and issue for me. I may not even agree with our government but I follow the rules. A country with no rules, laws, or spiritual aspect is doomed to fail. Love Jesus first, then love America

Talking about food, try this. Eat a early and light dinner no breakfast ,no lunch work a day. See how exhausted , slow and how clear and fast can you think? Keep it real Be safe

I was going to say ask Kurt Cobain about eating projectiles 🤣 still to soon 🤷, people are so mistaken on this subject and way to many live in fantasy land...... keep the truth coming!

I, like that knowledge doesn’t weigh anything another awesome point keep it up love the Content

I've read and read about these things, and yes, I saw "Red Dawn", 35 years ago. People think they just go running off to the woods, or some remote area. How? I'm glad you brought up things like map reading, which is a real lost skill. It used to be taught,back when kids were on Boy Scouts... Knowledge and the right equipment, is better than a bunch of stuff that isn't gonna be used.

eberlestock g4 operator... and I love it

Deer hunting for sport is a far cry from finding a critter to eat. Lol. I don’t know where you’re from, but if I bugged out from my home I could probably live off squirrels alone just on the walk. As for deer in that situation fair chase would be out the window and I’d eat what I need and feed the coyotes with the rest. Heck, a few snares, a trot line, or set hooks while you sleep may yield something. Someone’s going to be on watch for the night, so be prepared to take a meal if it comes by. 😳

Another thing bigmouths need to try is: sleeping in a gas mask. Just give it a try, and you will see for yourself how practical it is, as in not.

Solid!

Understand this. If the time comes you gotta " bugout" , you are on borrowed time.

Our get home/bug out bags are mystery ranch bags. Best bags by far imho. You cannot compete with their ability to carry very heavy loads and be very comfortable

bug out bag.... hmmmmm no travel pack is a better description... mine is throw in the truck and head to the retreat.. if it falls before that i will need to camp in ... thank goodness I live in Ontario north... well said and yes agreed

Beautiful, I agree with you 100%

I have a bag, but it’s what I take with me when I’m away if I need to get home. I would never bug out. If it’s bad enough that I’m gonna be overrun in my house, I’d rather be dead anyway

unc, dogs and cats? you could eat for months off the strays in my neighborhood. i have two weeks of food living with me now...(:

We have a place to go but it's 30 miles from our home. Yes, uts very suitable for a bug out location, but unless we have a great deal of notice that we need to leave it really does no good. Everything we have is at home. Our neighbors are really good friends and also preppers so we're all on the same page. We live very rural anyway so there would be no need to leave unless we knew we were going to get hit by a tactical nuke.

I don't think most have any idea what they would do. I see the people who practice fitness, mental toughness, and skill, smart decisions are the ones who win the day over those who rely to much on gimmicks. Also have the gear you have been fully tested?

It would have to get extremely bad before I bug out. My concern is a get home bag!

1000 rounds is something like 33, 30 round mags. Even split up by 2 and a few 2 qts thats a lot.

About body armor-- I have owned body armor since 1978. My "official use" of body armor goes back to the pre-PASTG days and the nylon flak vest and ended in 2010 when I retired from the Nevada Army National Guard. Body armor and helmet are insurance against my foul ups. Many of Second Chance Company's body armor saves were when the vest reduced injuries during a traffic accident--ask Massad Ayoob. Wearing body armor is also a combination of pessimism and optimism. Wearing body armor to protect against flying metal and secondary fragments is pessimistic--"I'm going to be hit." Expecting that armor to protect against lead pollution is optimistic--"my enemy will hit my armor!" Keep up your self-aid skills and carry a medical kit, too! But when you're solo, getting hit is going to foul up your day. The rule "don't get shot" still applies when wearing body armor. There's a reason why special operations forces strip off most body armor and leave helmets behind unless their mission puts them where there is an unavoidably high risk of being shot. I'm lucky--haven't been officially shot AT and I hope to keep the number of bullet holes on my body at zero. Sometimes body armor is forbidden. When Rich Davis developed Second Chance body armor after being shot during a robbery (in the head and thigh) he evaluated the threats facing police during the Sixties and Seventies before developing a pair of thick letter-size (more or less) Kevlar 29 panels held in place by a chest harness--"vest" to the rest of us. Two major challenges that Davis had to overcome--wearing bullet proof vests (in existence prior to the First World War) with a street cop's uniform violated agency regulations, and even with powerful police unions and the labor laws shifts of 12 hours had to be regarded as routine. If the armor wasn't worn, it wouldn't protect. The armor had to be concealed from police supervisor casual inspection and couldn't spoil the manly image of the patrol cop. Marketing literature stressed comfort and maintaining surprise "because when the criminal sees the armor, he shoots for the head." Police motorcycle helmets were still a new thing at the time and the standard headgear was a billed "saucer" cap (how military!) or a Smokey the Bear campaign hat or sometimes a variation of the cowboy hat. Baseball caps outside of SWAT were "unprofessional" and ballistic helmets--or helmets of any sort--were off police radar outside of riot duty. I believe that the main reason Davis opted for low profile body armor was so that his police customers could wear the armor without being labeled a coward by their peers and superiors. Ridicule is a career killer--and so no more customers! I wore my body armor underneath my security guard uniform shirts when working as an unarmed security guard. I was licensed in four states, one state at a time, and my posts were often isolated enough that I was the only human in an industrial park or at a construction site or a rural site. Or I would be working in a crowded retail establishment, possibly manning an access point. I did pull motor patrols, driving miles between several client sites in a company vehicle. The armor was there so that if I had to make a run for it, my vitals were protected--a little. Rich Davis was shot in the head and leg. Fortunately, the .25 caliber bullets didn't penetrate anything vital. How's your field medicine? In a bugout situation, who is your surgeon? The armor helps, but it is limited. Davis designed his Second Chance body armor to protect the vitals of police officers from the fire of Saturday Night Specials--then regarded as the main threat. I'd argue knives, but I'm just an ordinary fool and not part of any think tank. Hundreds of law enforcement officers survived being shot in the back or in the front of the chest while wearing Rich Davis Second Chance vests. Problem--"What are you wearing a vest for? Do you plan on getting shot?" The stigma is less than in the past--except for mall cops! Today, many police agencies have overt body armor as part of their patrol uniform--not just tactical teams, either. Helmets are still not universal issue--yet. For that matter, not all police have gas masks in their patrol car. I was never a sworn law enforcement officer but one five-year security guard contract required me to wear a gas mask in its carrier while on duty (12.5 hour shifts) and at the end of the contract we also wore rifle-proof body armor with PASTG helmet during those entire shifts on many access control posts due to the threat level. That was one reason our posts were NOT attacked--wearing all of that crap convinced the enemy that their attacks would not be successful. I cheated and wore concealable body armor when I was the arms room crew (I was the contract's armorer) and when my overt body armor was inappropriate, but I recognized that my armor had limited protective qualities. Steve, my late brother, was a Utah Highway Patrol officer and a Secret Service Agent and when we discussed gear, he set me straight on agency policies regarding helmets and gas masks. "We don't dress up as storm troopers, it scares the people we work for." Besides, automobile seats are not designed for wearing body armor and gas mask carriers. In my car I cannot even wear a baseball cap without occasionally rubbing against the ceiling--helmets are worse and even in military vehicles the crew positions are NOT designed for armored soldiers. I had trouble enough crewing the M577A2 Tracked Command Post Carrier (M113 variant) wearing full battle rattle. The M113 had been designed when Korean War era flak vests were becoming standard infantry issue, too! Sometimes circumstances dictate NO ARMOR. For example, California prohibits "civilians" from owning body armor. Wearing body armor can bring additional criminal charges for a routine traffic stop. Never mind that there's a lot of California carjacking going on and that some of these carjackers have fired at fleeing victims as the victims drove off. Rigid plates are going to make long drives very difficult. It's not BODY armor, but up armoring vehicles is a case of every solution creates more problems. On that five year contract our Jeep Cherokee patrol vehicles were fitted with 500-pound armor kits that provided protection against 9mm pistol bullets. I experienced hillbilly armor during Operation Iraqi Freedom II and the up armor kits and factory-installed HMMWV armor plates. Nevada's 1/221st Cav (National Guard) traded its Abrams tanks and Bradley/Devers armored vehicles for up-armored HMMWVs and then swapped out their armored HMMWVs for the support units' soft-skinned HMMWVs because the off-road performance of the armored vehicles was unacceptable. When armored, the HMMWV went from being a 5/4-ton payload to barely a 1/4-ton payload--barely enough for a crew of two soldiers and minimum gear. First problem was expense of the armor. Second problem is weight--increases fuel consumption, decreases range, compromises off-road performance, limits payload, and in Kuwait I had trouble squeezing into Jeep Cherokee driver's seats due to the armored door panels. In my opinion the only two worthwhile bits of the Jeep Cherokee armor kit were the back plate--not adequate for AK fire, but better than nothing--and the cage bolted and welded over the exhaust pipe. The latter made shoving a small bomb up the tailpipe very difficult. The armored HMMWVs had a very necessary air conditioning unit because the windows no longer opened--the doors were as heavy as vault doors, there was a special wrench inside the cab so that the crew could escape after a roll-over or if the door latches jammed, and due to the extra weight those vehicles were sluggish. I could outrun a HMMWV both on the road or cross country when driving an MTV or LMTV even when the 5-ton or 2.5-ton modern military tactical vehicle was up armored and fully loaded due to the bigger vehicle's better power to weight ratio, but those bigger trucks consumed even more diesel than did the HMMWVs and using the big trucks for routine support operations was frowned upon because they were needed for other duties. Yes, armor has problems. Would you walk ten klicks to avoid being shot or would you wear armor and try running a bullet gauntlet 300 meters long? The choice for chairborne commandos is always easy because their choice isn't between sweating or sweating and bleeding.

"You can't eat bullets...." Me: "uhhhh...."

True dat!

My so called bag is a gym bag, ( water filter, fire starter, shelter)

I have too many bags, including a rush 24, 72 and a few mystery ranch bags. The rush 72 is 6 pounds! 6 lbs right off the bat. It's great for camping and a range bag but damn that thing is a heavy pig

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I’ve changed the bug out bag into a get-home bag. I’d rather bug in and defend than bug out. I hate hiking to nowhere.

Funny you used the bubba with sks analogy because thats the big mac eaters and dudes you was talking about 😂😂

Don't forget that Sasquatches don't need boots or a BOB.

Water is 8.37 pounds per gallon, I deal with this at my job. I've also been there and done that,if you know what I mean. I've starved and let me tell people your mind and body don't react the same. Everyone out there has a grandeur notion that it will be like something in a movie. I hate to tell you it sucks real bad.

Bugout bags are strictly for a disaster that threatenes your house and town etc.anything less should be bugged in

An easy idea to carry more weight is to purchase a collapsible wagon. Or purchase a used bike you can strap your gear to.

You are correct. Most can't even read a compass and map..most are fat and do not know how it feels to ruck some weight. Many just practice flat range shooting. Shooting and running with ruck is a whole different ball game..

Your whole 3 part lecture, makes BUGOUT IMPOSSIBLE…. just the water supply , especially for a family Checks off the CANNOT DO box…. At best, you need a 4x4 with auxiliary 40 gallon tank, a secluded getaway, that is used often, off grid power, a well, and a deep cold cellar.

I have over a years supply at Home. I am not going anywhere.

Bugging out rarely makes sense. A get home bag is much smarter.

if you dont have a property to go to ahead of time then bug in

I need a big out double cheeseburgers because i am on meal team 6

Eberlestock ftw

Unless "bug out" means "get the hell back home", youre gonna get clapped.

I can't bug out, my mother is disabled and I can't leave her behind, so unless a nuclear threat comes I'll just fortify my home and stock it up, bugging out will be a last resort for me.

Get ready for long pork dinners people 😮😮😮😮

He claims GPS can be "tracked" can anyone explain this further? Im under the impression if your GPS device is a receiver only that its not able to be tracked.... am I wrong?

why'd they shoot on 3?

ALL Kidding aside, I have water, food, ammo, armor, etc… WHAT IS YOUR BUG IN ADVICE?

Bongo

METT-TC

20-25 lbs or less...

Gunmag warehouse LMFAO 😂😂😂 your fucking joking I hope. That company if they were drowning I'd help by giving them a glass of water 🌊🌊

Bug out is very simple. Stuck of $100 bills and leave before shtf. Everything else is stupid and extremely likely to fail

All I hear is that what your complaining about----what do you actually do to "counter" these complaints---are you part of solution? What your referring to is an INCH bag. Im Never Coming Home. Not a bug out bag. Your premise that people be walking only. A bug out is that you need to leave for a short while and come back. An INCH bag--thats where its a disaster where you cant drive and its utter chaos. I have bugged 6 times past 53 years----once because riots, once because flood, 3 hurricanes and one ice storm. I have allways had at least 12 hours of notice except the riot one---when I had 2 hours notice. I have yet to walk more than a mile with my bag. It is mostly a bag of convenience to put in the vehicle. I had to leave for at most 7 days. I use a convertible REI travel backpack----its big and durable and allows for short term carry. I do have any INCH bag which goes when I did bug out----but that has different items and is way lighter.

You dont like 511 do you? Lol

Bug out bags are dumb. What, are you just going to leave your family behind to fend for themselves?

Spastic millennial

No point in “bugging out” when I already live in the middle of nowhere. We have get home bags, in case I’m in town when the shit goes down.

Long distance backpack camping and hiking is my most expensive hobby. I just finished the rim to rim this spring. NO "tactical" bag is gonna cut it, no matter how much you spent on it. I tell people all the time that ive spent YEARS fortifying my house and environment, why the hell would i "bug" anywhere ?