Building a Powerful Raspberry Pi NAS with the Argon EON Pi Case & OpenMediaVault

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Are you looking to build your very own Raspberry Pi-based Network Attached Storage (NAS) for your network or homelab? In this video, we'll take an in-depth look at the features and functionality of the Argon EON Pi NAS case, a case designed for Raspberry Pi that transforms it into a NAS. You'll see the the build process, and we'll also demonstrate how to install and configure OpenMediaVault, a popular open-source NAS operating system, to maximize the capabilities of your build. This is definitely a fun project, so check it out!
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00:00 - Intro
02:36 - Taking a look at the final build, features, and general info regarding the Argon EON Pi NAS
05:46 - The assembly process
09:45 - Setting up Raspberry Pi OS
13:53 - Installing the Argon configuration script to enable the EON's features
16:02 - Installing OpenMediaVault
17:05 - Adding hard disks to the Argon EON Pi NAS build
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@YrmiZ Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! finally got some inspiration to build my own NAS

@NyneIX9 Жыл бұрын

You seem more comfortable in front of your camera compared to a year ago. Very inspiring!

@pastudan 8 ай бұрын

great review, straight and to the point. thank you!

@brandon_wallace Жыл бұрын

The shape of the case is cool.

@myszek512__6 10 ай бұрын

Interesting video, but..... You didn't address 2 important issues I am/was trying to get clarified. 1) Is this case compatable with all raspberry pi's ? and 2) can this case actually hold four 3.5" harddrives?

@deadlinerhorus 4 ай бұрын

so pleasant to watch, calm and nice voice, paired with outstanding knowledge. That`s why i subscribed, keep up your cool channel!

@Patricia-kk8tr Жыл бұрын

I intend to use 2014 2.6ghz mac mini with 2 SSD drives for omv Nas. It's power efficiency is good, and it's well built for the price 2nd hand.

@patrickprucha5522 Жыл бұрын

excellent video. I was thinking about mentioning LVM, but having looked at the video, i believe people will google options. The only one comment comes from installation of open media vault. I think when i was installing it, there was more to it then just the drives. Typically, i usually set up a nas so any device can attach to the media server to play music,films,look at pictures and actually save stuff as backups. I think a NAS an excellent way to use a pi. I would use Argon because as you said, it's easy to setup. But the price of the argon, is about the same price of a server box, which i can store all my drive (approx 10+). I currently have a probox holding 4 drives, but as your video states, Raid over usb is not allowed. I may use a forked version of your video and combine the pi with the probox but that another project. Thanks for the info Cheers

@africantwin173 11 ай бұрын

What do we use for PI modules and case for RAID with a Pi4. Since this EON case wont allow RAID with OMV.

@izelnakri 11 ай бұрын

Hi @LearnLinuxTV , is it possible to turn this NAS into a router with 5G HAT and maybe a PiSugar battery HAT if I just use thin Samsung SSDs? If you could make an upgrade video with those, if its possible, would be amazing!

@diginomad6016 Жыл бұрын

Hi, are you using zv-1 as your camera to make these videos? I saw it in your link and wanted to confirm...

@nicolaspojmaevich 4 ай бұрын

Hi I don't care about the case, but the nas card for the Pi seems interesting, would love to buy it without the case, thanks for video.

@dominiksedlak1367 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the author's enthusiasm. To build this is just out of fandom. It's slow, slow to take off. For less money you get a 6W intel/amd board with 16Gb of memory and 2.5gb ports (multiport). Virtualization, native disk controller included. Disks consumption the same whether in Rpi or another NAS. When you build a NAS, you will still find that the disks have consumption more than the motherboard. like Rpi, but it doesn't go with this.

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

What do You have in mind with same price and multi gig ethernet? Sure there are better options, sooner or later everyone will end up with qnap or synology, they just work :)

@dktol56 Жыл бұрын

I assume you're referring to the low-power Intel N5105 or N6005 mini-itx motherboards with four Intel I226-V 2.5GbE NIC's and six SATA ports that have popped up on Aliexpress under brand names like Topton and CWWK. They also have tiny fanless firewall/router virtualization boxes without the SATA ports but with the Intel NIC's. Very cool (literally). I'm quite interested in these.

@giornikitop5373 Жыл бұрын

@@dktol56 i wouldn't't trust those motherboards to have good performance. N5105/6005 do not have enough pci-e lanes (8 in total 4 are used by nvme) to service 6xsata3 + 2nvme + 4x2.5gbe, so probably they are shared shomehow. max i've seen on N5105/6005 that can be fully utilized is 2x2.5gbe + 1x nvme and 2x sata3. besides, these intel chips do not have the power for more. and you will have to add your own ddr4 so-dimm memory.

@kote315 Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they didn't include a battery to avoid shipping issues (batteries are sometimes considered dangerous goods). But I would prefer if they used a more common type of battery like CR2032. I really liked this case, it looks great, but it's too expensive. In general, Raspberry Pi is no longer a good platform for most applications, especially NAS. There are either cheaper boards that perform just as well, or equally (or a bit more) expensive boards that perform better in this type of application (e.g. ZimaBoard).

@kennethwillis8339 10 ай бұрын

I am trying to figure out how to use my Argon Eon as a cloud server. Any videos would be helpful.

@billloveless6869 6 ай бұрын

Do you know if or when there will be any updates for the Pi 5? Thanks

@lisovyy 5 ай бұрын

A bit off-topic - what's the tablet (with detachable keyboard from your right side) do you use?

@kylarberzins Ай бұрын

Thank you this is great

@mathieuberthalay21 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your video. I've seen it in France but the price is too much expensive, but I like the idea it's possible to do it. I'm wondering if we build the Raid in command line with mdadm before install open media vault, does it work?

@jasonhuxley674 9 ай бұрын

software RAID can be problematic over the same USB channel (3x IOPS). Also regarding the price, it is much cheaper than an entry level hardware NAS with similar performance specs and 4 drives not 1

@mathieuberthalay21 9 ай бұрын

@@jasonhuxley674 Thanks for your reply. You're right about the price, it's still very competitive in terms of value dor money. It's too bad about the software RAID though.

@fullofmysteries 6 ай бұрын

Which version of Raspberry Pi are you using? I'm assuming it's Pi4 Model B, but how much RAM is necessary if I want to use it as a NAS?

@HaywirePhoenix 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I wasn't aware of the RAID issue, what's the solution to that? Maybe a different hat that doesnt use the usb bus?

@MaxLeeIT Жыл бұрын

Does it support S.M.A.R.T? How is the disk performance?

@leonardobenetti4177 Жыл бұрын

Hi i have a raspberry pi3b+ do you think i can buy this product? Thanks

@youdolantube Жыл бұрын

It seems to be a neat solution but delivery outside the US seems to be a problem. Amazon just says not available in Europe :(

@diginomad6016 Жыл бұрын

Where are you guys getting the pi from. It's very difficult for me 😔

@diginomad6016 Жыл бұрын

@@skulver I thought companies were able to get pi's. Recently I brought a gigabyte motherboard with soldered celeron to run pi-hole since I couldn't get a pi

@TweakTechNow Жыл бұрын

I payed overprice for mine on ebay

@diginomad6016 Жыл бұрын

@@TweakTechNow in my place , even at a higher price it's not available

@Solar_and_Security 9 ай бұрын

I'd be interested in your thoughts on the pi5, now that that's be announced for this project....

@Tasso170 9 ай бұрын

Great video but Now i have a problem......I can login to my OMV but cannot access the dashboard to see any of the other areas ...i.e. storage, filesystem, users, ect........Please help...

@BersekViking Жыл бұрын

RAID: What about BTRFS? It supports RAID in the filesystem. Is that a supported RAID solution for Openmediavault? I know RAID 5 is not stable in BTRFS, but RAID1 works fine.

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

Any RAID with USB is just bad idea, this protocol was never intended to do that. If You want to feel it - build some example on command line and then disconnect some devices occasionally, it will brake RAID and will rebuild forever. Also please note that it will take about 20% of cpu on PI and will take rather hours to complete. Think about other option like merge fs or any other sync.

@CesarPeron Жыл бұрын

@@dmckrk who mentioned USB drives?

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

@@CesarPeron what other option are here available?

@carloscarneiro9857 5 ай бұрын

I was about to make the mistake to build rpi nas and not be able to RAID. Thanks

@AB-fu6py Жыл бұрын

I have this device. I get only 6MB/s when transferring files from a computer to the NAS (and vice versa). I expected 100+MB/s. I am sharing via SMB and have the NAS connected via Ethernet to the router, am I missing something?

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

WOW - this is just terrible speed and something that I afraid about such thing. With radxa quad sata HAT kit and pi I was able to get about 120MB/s and 80MB/s from cheap hdd with two hardware RAIDs which is about speed of gigabit. You are not ever near that :(

@AB-fu6py Жыл бұрын

@@dmckrk The drives are all shared over a single USB 3 port. So it's very much bandwidth limited. In my personal opinion, I would stick away as this is actually quite painful to use.

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

@@AB-fu6py It's still way too less for single USB3 port, which can get about 470MB/s with USB/SSD.

Жыл бұрын

USB3 is the bottle neck, you can do it... its just tooooo slowwww. Just try to copy a file from on drive to another and you will see how slow it is. Pi4 Bus is still the problem it can´t handle it. I would not mind that the pi4 was bigger in size if it had more performance.

@Nyxious999 Жыл бұрын

Neat item, Argon makes some cool cases, but I still cant reliably purchase a Pi three years later without long wait lists or overpaying on ebay. I dropped them a long time ago when it was obvious they care more for commercial products than home users.

@billloveless6869 6 ай бұрын

I don't buy much if anything from ebay. I use Cana Kit or aPi store USA instead. Used them in the last 6 months. Good price and customer service.

@mikepeterson443 3 ай бұрын

Is there an updated version for Raspi5?

@perry4078 12 күн бұрын

Would like to know this please

@IoSonoAndreaZ 4 ай бұрын

wait, you can't do raid with this?

@NOX-ID47 Жыл бұрын

International and Domestic shipping regulations make the act of shipping even a button cell lithium battery quite a bit more cost prohibitive, even if the cost is just more paperwork or headaches, many just avoid it all together by not including a battery. Then there's the actual risks associated with the batteries, which is why there are strict regulations, even a button cell has enough energy to start a fire given the correct conditions. Regulations, costs, storage and shipping conditions all play a role in deciding if they will include a battery. If they have a ton of these sat in a warehouse somewhere, each containing a battery that is slowing ticking away to: at best being a flat useless battery, at worst a fire starter, and a few other unwanted possibilities in between, it's a lot easier to just say nah, and not include a battery and avoid all of the problems associated. I won't even go into the headache of RMAs of the entire product for a $1.50 battery that can be found at any dollar store, walmart, heck gas station in the country...

@EasleyDone. Жыл бұрын

That looks so cool, wish I could get a Pi for a reasonable price. I have a pre-order that's 2 months overdue. thanks for the great review.

@racitup4114 Жыл бұрын

A NAS without RAID? Doesn't that defeat the objective? Also, since the board and disks operate from a low voltage, I would like to see a UPS battery setup with automatic shutdown, that would be seriously cool.

@EmilePolka 11 ай бұрын

unfortunately that is the case for this build, USB generally is not very reliable. I already have several issues regarding USB go resetting by it self for no reason, no its not a power supply issue with the HDD, its just how the USB is. now imagine during resilvering process and one of those drives connected via USB got disconnected, the best case scenario is you basicallty resilver again from start or worse, you lost the entire array along with your data. as of now, the best setup for this NAS case is just setup the drives as individual volumes and use SnapRAID.

@pepealexandre8815 Жыл бұрын

👍

@buriedbits6027 8 ай бұрын

No RAID 5? RAID over USB a problem. I run an OWC 4 drive RAID 5 using SoftRAID open a macmini. I was excited about this but all the practical info was at the end.

@kennethjakobsen7295 Жыл бұрын

Could LVM be used in place of RAID, or would that also be unfit for USB devices?

@TerriTerriHotSauce Жыл бұрын

Please review Vanilla OS and blendOS.

@yensteel Жыл бұрын

Immutable OS systems are really interesting! It could make for safer and cleaner operations. The system astonishingly, can still be updated.

@brachisaurous 7 ай бұрын

OMV does not work in desktop environment anyways

@MyReviews_karkan Жыл бұрын

This is actually not bad. Just use sata ssds instead and you're in the races. Just a bit too expensive.

@thegreyfuzz Жыл бұрын

Nice to see something other than the typical CUBE NAS. Price point of the box and the lack of availability for the Pi's really limit it. Novel execution, poor value (for now).

@g4njawizard916 Жыл бұрын

Well, it's a cool idea and cool looking design, but after the trouble I had with my RockPi Sata "NAS/Cloud" solution, I cannot recommend tinkering with these USB SATA solutions. One day the SATA Platine or USB port can become faulty and cause a lot more of headaches. Having a NAS without a proper functioning RAID is IMO just a temp drive solution. If you really want to store important stuff for a lifetime, you have to make a backup of your NAS storage. You safe more time, money and work by just building a real NAS Solution with a well functioning RAID.

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

With Radxa at least you have some hardware RAID options and they using two USB ports to get as much as possible speed. Also without RAID there are still some other options to get some benefits of it, OMV guys points merge fs systems as default way to go and sure - You will have duplicated data and same speed. This kind of NAS is not main option, it's some kind of addon to serious NAS, one another failover.

@HaimPeretz Жыл бұрын

Absolutely right . The case looks awesome but NAS solution with RAID is useless for me

@g4njawizard916 Жыл бұрын

@@dmckrk I had a lot of trouble with Radxa and it's now laying in the corner gaining dust. I have 2 of 4 slots that began making trouble over time. So no matter how cool these solutions are, these solutions are nothing for long term use. If you have the money for a real NAS, you dont need a failover. Just rely on a good working RAID system.

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

@@g4njawizard916 Real NAS is still a device that can be stolen or burned and when You think about that then You will realize that You need two of them in different locations. They don't have to be that fast because it's already copy. Radxa solution was not perfect, but that's because of JMS chips and their buggy firmware. I eventually managed to get it to stable work but sure - it was not easy. With this case I expect it will not reach that speeds and there is no hardware RAID. Of course if You have budget then as always synology or qnap is the way to do that.

@arxaaron Жыл бұрын

The battery isn't included due to shipping constraints. ALL batteries tend to be treated as fire hazard Lithium Ion these days and can only be shipped by ground.

@dktol56 Жыл бұрын

A Jonsbo N1 (or N2) NAS case, together with an Intel N5105 cpu/mini-itx motherboard (Aliexpress), won't cost much more than this Pi4 + NAS case, but give you five 3.5" sata drive bays and four 2.5GbE NIC's, and a lot more performance. Raspberry Pi's are still overpriced unobtainium, so I'll pass.

@waynefong5960 Жыл бұрын

Another problem that I found with the pi nas is that the pi still uses sd card as boot drive, which is quite unreliable in the long run

@ronhill7373 Жыл бұрын

@@waynefong5960 It is NVMe SSD boot capable and easy to set up.

@XSTAYUPX Жыл бұрын

You trust a knockoff intel from aliexpress with your nas?

@BrianThomas Жыл бұрын

Will the indie Droid Nova fit into this build instead of the raspberry pi?

@ronhill7373 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the approach that this video takes is not for the Raspberry Pi novice looking for help setting up a NAS. This is for the person very familiar to the Raspberry Pi platform interested in a company setup video. I would have preferred a thorough setup video with the ability to advance past areas using time stamps. These videos should be comprehensive and cater to people of all levels of experience. Post production can add time stamps to advance for differing skill levels. This video left me searching for answers. Two additional points: 1) I am surprised that it was not mentioned that of the total drives, only a maximum of 2 can be 3.5. 2) There is an internal USB port that is not well documented by the manufacturer.

@omarjohnson2450 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this, I was thinking there's no way this could fit 4 3.5" drives!

@simonsonjh Жыл бұрын

I prefer wifi for a NAS so all devices can connect from anywhere without a cable.

@Pracedru Жыл бұрын

but... you still can't get rpi's Why not make an example with orange pi or another SBC that you can actually get?

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

Ask Argon why they don't make cases for Orange Pi 5, this would instantly solve few pi limits and makes such NAS much better

@Pracedru Жыл бұрын

@@dmckrk Maybe it could be with another case.

@dmckrk Жыл бұрын

@@Pracedru Of course there are some alternatives with rpi format like indiedroid, coolpi or incoming rock 5a, all based on same SOC and in pi format. The only thing You will need is bit different usb bridge and aof course You will get same single usb3 bottleneck. Indeed there are some much better SBC's and universal cases.

@DimitrisChr Жыл бұрын

Without RAID this is not a NAS solution. Its just a nice case with some extra features. If you have a Pi use the money to buy a large external USB drive to get basically the same functionality cheaper.

@sourcilavise3788 Жыл бұрын

Well again, nothing against your video, you do a great job, but you can get refurbished stuff for nearly nothing and still have a lot more punch. Yes your power draw may be a tad superior but compared to the price tag of this plus the Raspberry Pi, it's a steal (and again, if you run no gui, I'm pretty sure you may have like 1~3 more watts on idle). Yes there will be no sparkles and but man... I get it that Raspberry pi are open source stuff on ARM etc and maybe ARM will be the future but x86 just works for now (still I would recommand Intel more than AMD on this from my experience). Coming from a Fedora user.

@BloodAsp Жыл бұрын

RPI has long been unobtanium. I'd be more interested in having an insight into what their bottle neck is.

@giornikitop5373 Жыл бұрын

nice video. but as nice as this case is, having it as a nas with the rpi is a waste of hardware. no raid, a big no-go for any nas, can't even take advantage of 1 hdd speed, less so for 2 hhd's and 2 ssd's, lots of wasted perf. due to the usb3 connectivity etc. the only thing that makes some sense is having it for like a nice and small media player, or emulation station, provided that you don;t really care if a hdd dies and you lose the data. but there are already other faster and cheaper solutions for that,

@EmilePolka 11 ай бұрын

155USD just for the case, now for raspberry pi.... well thats another big issue. this can easily be more expensive than a cheapest 2bay nas from synology that only cost around 200USD or less.

@BrianThomas Жыл бұрын

Too bad this doesn't have a built-in battery backup.

@YogBar 2 ай бұрын

Well, If it doesn`t support RAID this is pretty much worthless , A $20 enclosiore from Aliexpress plugged directly into the home router USB will do the same thing for fraction of the price. And if you have a desktop PC at home , you might as well stick your hard drives into it and save even the $20 (And get a software Raid support in the process). There is no use paying $100 for a JBOD box.

@leonboy9388 Жыл бұрын

At this point any products that need a Pi is set up for failure.

Жыл бұрын

I came here a man, and now after 19 minutes I feel like a woman that could out swim the other women in this video.

@DannyNilsson 8 ай бұрын

this product really don't make sense. it is cheaper to buy a 2 bay synology, that don't take up the time of building, better OS, support for raid, faster transfer speeds. the only thing i see a PI would do a synology wont is to have wireless connection

@deeph7496 3 ай бұрын

No RAID = no buy

@darqen Жыл бұрын

it looks like the trash can mac

@robertlee6338 8 ай бұрын

No such thing as "Powerful" Raspberry Nas. RPI Nas are slow as F#CK Raspberry Nas is project for the sake of "doing" a project. Building a NAS from Raspberry Pi for daily use is silly

@Appalling68 Жыл бұрын

I was totally enthralled with this video until the end. I mean, it's not possible to even set up RAID 0? What's the point of a NAS without out some RAID redundancy? Also, the fact that the HD's are required to go through the USB bus is a huge negative (I assume this is a Raspberry Pi hardware limitation). Another huge minus right now is the total lack of availability of the Pi hardware itself. Anyway, still an interesting video and as always, thank you Jay for the great content.