Building Fast Tracks Turnouts for the UPRR Evanston Sub. Model Railroads in Action.

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The HO Scale Union Pacific Railroad - Evanston Sub

Жыл бұрын

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@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Жыл бұрын

I’ve only worked on part of these in an assembly line at a friend’s, so it’s good to see the whole process from start to finish.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Assembly line sounds interesting. How many people and how many could you do in an hour?

@Modutrak Жыл бұрын

Brings back memories of you showing how it was done in N scale before an operating session on the old layout. I’ve been hand laying since!

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Those were the days. When I'm done building turnouts for the Evanston Sub, I will have built over 230 Fast Tracks turnouts.

@michaelhurst5910 Жыл бұрын

built mine with their jig in O scale. You spend most of your time filing 148 rail. Id actually put the filing fixture in my vice to file the rail it made it so much more easy.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Great advise. Thanks

@scottwalters6031 Жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial. Thanks.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@BCHonea Жыл бұрын

I would do anything to have the money and space for a hand laid track layout. Gorgeous work mate

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Don't need money as hand laid is cheaper than purchased track.

@paulchamplin8953 Жыл бұрын

Incredibly helpful video and love the way you include your mistakes and narrative of corrections. Do you feel these operate better (more reliably) than say a Peco turnout does?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely. Way, way better. Look better too.

@hirsutusi5536 Жыл бұрын

Nice camera angle. Use a toothpick for the flux. A little less flux, a little more precision, less cleanup.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Never hand muck luck with a toothpick. Does not pick up much if any paste.

@alainaarrhodge5900 Жыл бұрын

WOW!! Just wow.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@CSXFan5496 Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@ScottTaipaleRail 9 ай бұрын

I’m newer to this but I’ve done about 20 switches and a couple diamonds now. 2 thinks have made my life easier… I bought a bench sander and do most of the filing with it, just before the belt touches the jig and then finish with the hand file. And I bought a rail shaper off eBay. I cut my hands a few times curving rail and that was enough! Jigs cost too much for my budget so I just tape their paper templates on glass and build em up free hand.

@EvanstonSub 9 ай бұрын

Jigs can be sold after use for 60-80% of cost. So, they are not ready that expensive per turnout if you are building a bunch.

@andrewlaverghetta715 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, I appreciate it. One of the things I wish fast tracks did better was showing how they wire and install their turnouts. They seem to just tell you how to assemble this stuff but don’t give any help or tips when installing them. Like where to wire the frog wire, where to attach other wires. Should I add them to the rail bottom, the side, or should I or can I solder the wires to the pc ties. Same with the bullfrog, how to actually install them. I’ve moved to another company though as the price is the same and I don’t need to deal with imperfections while assembling.

@EvanstonSub 4 ай бұрын

Surely there are KZfaq videos out there that cover those topics.

@mikerubynfs Жыл бұрын

I think the solder doesn't go under the rail because you heat it for a short time, I heat longer and the solder goes to the other side and tends to 'ball up' less. I use a bit of paper between the switch rail and stock rail to stop them being soldered together. I did hand build track for one layout, but it was only 10' long and 8 turnouts, doesn't quite compare and I haven't done it since!

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Length of time does not help. Maybe hotter iron. Although I have used the iron recommended by fast tracks with no difference.

@mikerubynfs Жыл бұрын

@@EvanstonSub I use a 50W iron, but a much larger bit which dumps the heat through faster, and at around 400ºC (752ºF). I was taught to use the largest bit that fits the job. I place the bit so it touches the rail and tie at the same time and the solder wicks under the rail in a few seconds. Maybe the jig is sinking the heat although I normally have metal gauges on the rails when I'm soldering.

@jamesburba1995 Жыл бұрын

You might want to try liquid flux. I've gone over to liquid flux as it is so much easier to use and clean up. Plus, it seems to go further under the rail, providing a significantly more robust joint.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. I'm sure my paste will last for my final turnouts for this layout. Maybe for the next one :)

@ARB4957 Жыл бұрын

Hi Daryl, Very informative. When I'm soldering (and I've never tried to handlay a turnout like this yet) everything gets pretty hot, are your fingers made of asbestos ? Plus do you ever have a previously soldered connection come unsoldered due to heat transfer along the rail ?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

My fingers only got hot once, but not burned. Do not have any issues with previous joints.

@Vman7757 Жыл бұрын

Did you cut the copper tie tops so they don't short between the rails before installing?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

I do that after they are installed.

@bhuddaloyd Жыл бұрын

what do you use to attach the turnout to the wood ties, what adhesive?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Diluted white glue that is used during ballasting.

@daleroth236 Жыл бұрын

Do you ever have to gauge the switch after completion to make sure it is correct?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Little if any. The fixtures make sure everything is in gauge.

@paulchamplin8953 Жыл бұрын

I don't see the link for the pcb or wood ties? Can I assume you buy the rail from FT? Thank you!

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Nope. Google Cloverhouse for the pc ties and proto87 for the wood ties.

@derekalexander4030 Жыл бұрын

How long did it take to build one number 8 turnout from start to finish?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

about an hour.

@kcsthebetterway Жыл бұрын

Did you have problems with the rail fitting? I'm having trouble getting my Atlas 83 to fit. Micro engineering most likely...mmmm. Also, are you using 70 for the whole railroad?

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Atlas rail will not work. The base of the rail is too wide.

@kcsthebetterway Жыл бұрын

@@EvanstonSub yes, unfortunately I have come to that conclusion. Thanks for the confirmation.

@emrrcmember6257 Жыл бұрын

What is the total cost of turnouts all in, as far as rail, PCB ties, wood ties, all the jigs etc.? I am just curious if you know what the break-even point is between pre-made turn outs and making your own. In your case with the large volume of turn outs I'm sure you saved a LOT with the sweat equity. I am VERY interested in learning how to make hand-made turn outs, but just curious what the all-in cost would be for say 1 turnout with all of the stuff, then beyond that what is the cost of a 2nd turnout in just the rails, PCB ties, and ties. I'm sorry for the question, it is just something I have wondered about that I haven't come across discussion on.

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Comes out to around $8-$9 per turnout.

@emrrcmember6257 Жыл бұрын

@@EvanstonSub I appreciate you taking the time to respond, thank you!

@bejennings3 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to cut the pc ties

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it's not difficult. I use a rail cutter

@marklane7106 Жыл бұрын

Okay you have a cost for the gig, to buy a turnout, & about how long it takes to make the part in the gig. My question is what would you estimate the total cost to make one compete?

@Nealeb1970 Жыл бұрын

You really need to work out how many turnouts you want to build, then go to the fasttracks website and work out exactly what you need to buy then divide that by how many turnouts you need to get an overall cost. Those filling jigs aren't cheap, $70 each from memory. then the rail, PCB, timber sleepers(ties) or Quicksticks. there's also a jig you can buy to help solder the frog points. I would advise watching Tims videos on the fasttracks website as he takes you through the whole process step by step and explains each step. Well worth an hour of your time

@EvanstonSub Жыл бұрын

My cost for rail and ties is $7-$8 per turnout. #10s cost a bit more than #8s.

@billkraemer4710 9 ай бұрын

Fast tracks also provides a pdf online you can make copies of and simply build over the paper - like a balsa airplane. Super inexpensive and probably good for a small 4 x 8 layout. That said, we can see the jigs are very helpful so if you are building down the wall, around the corner and over to the next room a jig is probably the way to go.