It’s hard to believe it’s already been 7 years since 2013

Just when I thought I was out. You’ve dragged me back in. Lol I went down a rabbit hole a while back upgrading PCs macs and gaming consoles. Which I was done with. And then came you KZfaq channel 🤔😢🤓

Love your channel for doing this. I love seeing someone making the effort to upgrade these machines.

This was pretty interesting to see the architecture of this computer, thanks for the video!

I actually think the design and inside look so good and luxurious. Apple might released this design as Mac non-pro with mainstream Intel cpu and a single amd gpu. So, it would be between Mac Mini and Mac Pro.

How do you not have more subscribers, I've been watching your videos for a while now and your improvement is exponential! Keep it up.

Thank you so much for this review and tutorial, Luke! It is very usefull for those like myself that love this so unique model and still us it for... Practically everything from music creation to edition and Post... So amazing this Mac is still usefull in the battlefied after so many years...💪🏻

It was fun watching you do the upgrade. Thanks for another great video.

Oy, I hear ya - I delidded my 2015 iMac’s i7 CPU and replaced it with a custom copper IHS to improve the thermals... and the most frustrating part of the entire process was putting the heat sink / retention screws back together, lol. Great video - really enjoying your channel! 👍

A good time to buy it on eBay right now, there are so many.Bought a 6 Core / D500, upgraded it to 64 GB RAM, 12 Cores -> I paid a total of 1300 Euro

Glad to see you finally explore one of these cylinder Macs as a 12-core.

I’m not going to lie, I thought it would be more of a pain to disassemble it.

I’m running that Mac Pro, still with quad core, but dual FirePro D700s, 64gb ram and 2tb SSD. It still runs very well, but its good to know I can significantly boost it with a 12 core. Thanks for the fantastic instructional on how to upgrade! Oh yeah... I wouldn’t trade it for anything. I love the look and it sits snugly behind my display making a quiet whir at the busiest of times.

this tutorial was by far one of the best I've ever seen. I upgraded my macpro with no problems. thanks brother.

Nice video Luke! We just purchased 20 of these 3.5GHz i7 6-core models with 32GB RAM. Didn't realize it was that easy to upgrade the CPU (I mean relatively easy).

Your results surprised me a little bit. I was interested in these for a long time and still marvel over them. Also I am being surprised more and more by architecture changes. I didn’t realize the improvements Intel/AMD make underneath. If all we focus on is Geekbench, Cinebench, gaming, etc... then newer PCs aren’t as attractive. That’s my .02 and am open to others inputs.

I remember when you were just upgrading 2011 MacBook pros. Happy to see you at this point, Luke

Thanks for not crapping on my trashcan for once! I am about to upgrade my 6-core to 12, and since I live in Asia I can just pay a shop to do the installation $20. Can you please show the benefits of using various eGPUs with various cards to see what would be a cost effective upgrade in that area? Us previous owners of trashcans would thoroughly appreciate it! I also would like for you to demonstrate the various SSD upgrade options. What I love also is that I have 64GB ram and I can run several virtualizations currently without any performance hit. I find it faster to run windows in emulation on my trashcan than actually using my various windows devices. And I always love how quiet it is!

Still rocking my 8 core Mac Pro 2013 with 64GB of ram; loving it still!

I have the base 4 core 2013 Mac Pro. I have had it for 6 years and it still runs very well if you ask me. But.... it is just recently been showing it's age. This upgrade REALLY makes sense for someone like me. Excellent idea!

LOVE this video! Thank you!!

Thanks for the help, did this last night to mine.

LM glad you showed me this, I ended up getting a Mac Mini, thanks for sharing

I just bought a Mac Pro 2013 for 150 bucks in perfect condition. Another 35 for the 12C Xeon and I am a happy camper… Crazy how quick depreciation is.

You have created what is undoubtedly the best "sound meets style" computer. That design was never going to be practical but what a looker!! And I'm no Apple fan, to put it mildly! Greedy company with great products! Way to go! GREAT video!! 👍🏽😃

Some FCPX comparison will be nice to see, thanks👍🏻

Every helpful video,now I also want to upgrade my Mac Pro too.

I love your videos Luke!!! They look super professional!! And always have a hook! Keep it up!!!

I know it’s basically useless computer in terms of long term usage but technically it’s a masterpiece IMO. Internal design is absolutely incredible!

A very well thought out video, considered and balanced, like the careful and well explained disassembly, the tidy placement of all parts to show what was done, the commentary was very interesting indeed, the only minor flaw was having music playing whilst there was commentary, it is distractig to what you are saying, even though it is quiet, i was distracted from what would have otherwise been a near perfect video. with thanks and appreciation. Simon.

I just bought 2 12 core cpus and maxed memory for my 2013 Mac pros. I’m excited to see them work. Currently running 6 cores and 32 gb. Hoping to squeeze a few more years out of them!

Very good info! thank you!

I used to own a trashcan Mac like this. Loved the stoic IO power it provided, while being absolutely cool in the best sense of the word. Had a LaCie disk beneath it which drove me nuts, because it was louder than the Mac. Not a bad machine at all.

4:00 Costa Rica representing ⚡ excellent video Luke ⚡

I am glad I found your videos. I just spent 90 minutes and plugged in my Darth Cylinder and it wouldn’t boot....Ahhh, I needed to remove my new 2terabyte ssd and reinstall the original SSD with the OS. Restarted. Booted up. Powered down. Installed the new 2terabyte drive....rebooted. Working Great. Thank you for this video

Alway GREAT VIDEO‼️✅

I like the old folding camera in the background of some shots! (I am also into vintage film cameras :-) )

I upgraded mine as well. Definitely worth it. I used the 12 core cpu too

Good stuff again! One thing you could do is do win 10 bootcamp and test some gaming.

As aways, awesome video!

Here's another scenario for you: I use a 6-core trashcan at work. So, for $200 I can get improved FCP performance and make the machine useful for a couple more years instead of buying a new machine. Maybe I'll pick up a 32GB RAM kit for it while I'm at it...

Good video, thank you. 👍

I will buy it and upgrade it just because of the design I love this design the simple case opening and the minimal footprint its great.

There seems to be a good bit of "Form over Function" with this generation of Mac.

The one feature you didn’t mention and which it’s hard to put a price tag on is just the design and style of the machine. Some people hate it but I think is hands down the most gorgeous computer I’ve ever seen. I keep watching the prices drop on eBay, at some point I will probably give in and pick one up.

You're a surgeon bro, great video.

YOU DO A PHENOMENAL JOB

Luke "back to back to back" Miani

I upped my 3.5GHz 6-core CPU to the same 12-core 2.7GHz in my trash can (D500, 64GB RAM). I use mine for music production with Logic X, given the reduction in core speed it quite often felt quite a bit slower to use than it did before as many plugins are still only single core capable

Strip it down and use the case for something else like a homemade egpu or just set it on a shelf as decor.

Imagine this with the newer amd chips... decent processor and good integrated graphcs in a small package like that is just wow

@Luke Miani you could use Silicon Oil for the Fan, that would make it like new.

Glad to see its not sponsored by decluttr. Also when is the video about what u posted last week about fixing macbook pros

I think you should edit 4k videos on it and test how it performs with the upgraded CPU

It is wild how much these have depreciated in 3 years since this video. I just bought a 6 core trash can Mac Pro with 64 Gb of RAM for $240 and now the same processor you installed sells for $28! I realize this is now a 10 year old machine but it is significantly less expensive than a used 2019 i9 MacBook Pro.

I know this is an old thread but this seems like a kick azz developer box for doing typical app dev. It runs the latest OS and supports Xcode and since I need a cheap 3rd Mac dev systems I might go for it. Fun little upgrade project too.

Could you do a comparison of a maxed out 6,1 vs. a maxed out 5,1? Comparing both price and performance. TIA

Will you try to run Unreal Engine 5? That's the only reason I want or need to upgrade to this machine. Excellent breakdown by the way, I appreciate the tests and infographics and analysis.

Following your vids late last year, I upgraded my primary workstation (from a 2013 top-spec iMac 3.7 i7 4-core) to a base model trashcan via eBay which side to side, offer similar specs. At the same time, I bought a 12-core upgrade kit thinking I was going to fly into hyperspace with my workflow. I paid @ $1,200 for the machine and $200 for the CPU kit. All things considered, my workflow (print graphics via Adobe Ill./Photoshop/InDesign) became much slower and every move of the mouse was laggy. After a week or two of this and some research, I swapped back to the 4-core and my workflow was much improved. Apparently the 12-core is more suited to tasks that take advantage of the multicore such as video work but my concern is having multiple Adobe programs all active at the same time and apparently, where higher clock speeds are more important. I'm considering swapping out the 4-core for a 6-core that has very similar clock speed to see if I can eke out a bit more performance. a few seconds of lag time here and there add up when you are doing what I do for 8-12 hours each day. My later research also lead me to wish I had held out for a D500 or D700 version graphics cards. And of course, I'm seeing more and more options for the 2013 Mac Pro on eBay, 6 months after my decision to buy what I did. Yesterday I noticed a 6-core with D500 at around $1,500. A new iMac may have been better suited for my needs but I was looking to move on to a larger screen. I find it frustrating that the Apple choices are limited to high and low-tier platforms (Mac mini & Mac Pro) which allow for customer selected screens or the happy middle tier specs but you are married to the 27" iMac screen size. 2 of them together are great but I like the extra vertical real estate of the 32" screen.I would love it if the iMac redesign includes a 32" screen option. Overall I am happy with my decision but I would like to see a bit more explanation on the different CPU options and what sort of work is best suited to each one.

So I had been using a MacBook Pro Retina 15" late 2013 model for about 6 years, until I needed to replace the battery just the the other day. I always said the once I needed to do that, I would upgrade to a 2013 Mac Pro and give my MacBook to my daughter. The reason that I wanted the 2013 Mac Pro is that I don't need a laptop and my home office set up includes two 30" Apple Cinenma Displays and a rotated 23" Apple Cinema display that is virtical between the two 30", all three us Thunderbolt. I absolutely love my monitors, and this is why I needed the Mac Pro. In order to run these monitors without further investment in adapters/cables etc., I need Thunderbolt 2. It has been a major upgrade for me to have six Thunderbot 2 ports as I have the three monitors and a Thunderbolt Focsrite Clarrete interface for music recording. Now I have everything connected at once, which is just awesome for me. In addition, I purchased the base Quad Core model for $1100 and just installed the 12 Core referred to in this video for $170. So for $1270 out the door, I have the 12 core model with 48 gigs of ram. So I think it does come down to your set up and particular needs. For me and my love affair with vintage Apple Cinema displays and my Thunderbolt display, this computer is a dream both from a cost standpoint as well as the fact that it is blazing fast for me compared to what I was using before. Plenty fast! Anyway, just a quick story there. Loved this video as it helped me to go down the road of upgrading the processor which was not too difficult and well worth it in the end.

The missing G on the RAM really threw me, I thought it came with 1GB for a minute 😅 7:20

twenty-two seconds late but a big improvement though

It’s a beautiful piece of design and unique. I think it will always be in demand by collectors

I recently bought one of these too and it was still sealed in the box from Apple. It's also the 4 core model, but it's really not that bad of a CPU. The single thread performance is much better than the 12 core you installed. Mine scored 863 for single core on Geekbench 5. The 12 core CPU is only best for applications that can utilize multiple cores. I think the 8 and 10 core CPUs offer a better balance of performance. I plan to go with the 8 core E5-1680 v2. Some people choose the E5-2667 v2, but the thermal requirements for that CPU aren't a good match for the Mac Pro. The 10 core E5-2690 v2 would also be a good choice. It has better single core performance than the 12 core and almost as good multi core performance. Also, I suggest wearing an anti-static bracelet when working on the computer. It would also be best to use the specialized tools from Apple and follow their instructions made for technicians or have an authorized Apple service provider perform the CPU installation.

This mac is a masterpiece, all this Chips cooling with only one Fan on the top!

Nice machine!

I am in the small portion of people that can make good use of this. Bought a base Mac Pro 6.1 last month and upgraded to 12 core to use it for FCPx video editing for my channel. I would love to see an egpu setup to see if it’s worth

Hello Luke. Thank you very much for the video! I heard it is possible to link the GPUs somehow on Windows to boost the performance. Could you please install Windows and try to link those GPUs together and give some benchmark numbers? Thanks!

I was hoping you could do a follow up video where you upgrade the ram and memory.? I'm thinking of getting one but would like to know what how it would be doing the upgrades.

Thanks for this amazing Video! Thanks! My Question: i have a MacPro6,1 (Late 2013) with a 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5. Can i use this socket to upgrade my Mac Pro to your recommended Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2? Thanks for some advice. Greetings from Switzerland! :-)

These would be a great choice for a musician or audio technician on a budget. Silent and plenty powerful. A base model would probably suffice with a RAM upgrade. Really makes me want one, haha.

So I noticed some quirks on the Mac Pro 2013. If it has a background task running, say Plex media server. It goes to sleep, but when it does this the fan doesn’t work. So I come back in the room a couple of hours later and notice that it’s getting quite hot. I also see an amber light coming out of the base. As soon as I wake it up, the fan kicks in and he temps drop from 80+ to 40ish. This explains why some mornings I notice that it’s completely turned off. I have istat pro running and I can see the temperature Curves constantly increasing and the fan being zero. I basically have it so it doesn’t sleep anymore and have appropriate fan curves.

Wow! So overly complicated engineering!! Still an awesome machine!! So glad I didn't buy one of these! Great video!

Helo Luke, I just hitted “sub” button, because of this video. It’s like about 5 months I started to watch your work here and I’m happy to say: I literally like it :-) good job man.

I"m considering the 10 core because single core ops are a little faster and isn't that much slower in multicore. It's the sweet spot a lot of people say and I agree.

Thanks for all the cool videos. I wish you didn't hate this Mac Pro. I would love to see a bang for buck comparison with a Mac mini that has equal Ram, and equal HD, and an eGPU that performs like the 2 D300s. These cards have a Geekbench 5 score of around 20,000 ea. These are like Radeon 7950s. Final Cut and other Apps that can take advantage of two of these can equal the performance of a single RX580 at around 40,000. I bought a used RX580 for around $100 and a used eGPU housing should run at least $200. While pricing these, I would love to see some Video Editing Comparisons. I would also like to see the thermals compared while rendering out a 1 hour 4k movie. I wish Apple would have updated these to modern iMAC PRO Xeons and lower power Radeon IIV GPUs with 16 Gig video memory each. Then gave us the New machines named appropriately as XSERVE. This is more in line with what most "PRO" users need. I do very much appreciate everything you guys go through to source these machines for us and run them through their paces. Last note ... before referring to these as "Trash Cans" ... next time put any mac mini, iMac, Macbook Pro, or anything next to these and crank up a "Heaven" benchmark. Then after about 5min, close your eyes and listen. I like to call it "The Music of Silence".

Excellent Video. I'm curious through, other than looking good in Bench Marks. What can it do that it couldn't do before? What does it do better?

Can you revisit this Mac pro? To see if the latest OS of Mac can take advantage of these dual graphic processors?

The main downside is the age and graphics - the age is not a specification / the graphics? unless you are a gamer or editing video the graphics are more than adequate, I produce music and it runs Logic superbly and the thing you call the 'Trashcan' (a very negative term) has is great connectivity, the 6 thunderbolt ports across 3 separate buses and an HDMI and digital and analog audio I/O and 4 USB ports, it's expensive to buy now (so it has retained it's value) but I already have mine (with the D700 cards, 6 core and I may upgrade it to 12 core) so the current price is not an issue, it runs cool, does not over heat and is rock solid with Logic. People buy computers to use them in the real world, not to just run benchmark tests. One other thing, the reason I chose a 6 core is because the processor is faster (3.5) than the 12 core (2.8) so are the extra 6 processors worth slowing down the computer for . . . . I suppose it depends if you need throughput of faster processing or rendering power which a slower computer is OK for . . .

Nice review! Is the D700 which make it so expensive, if not doing HEVC H265 stuff, I still prefer this to the new Mac Pro, especially for its foot print and portability.

I’d love to see this things stats side by side with your other upgraded Mac Pro... they seem to have come out to similar prices after it was all said and done, right?

me looking at one on ebay for under 200 with the upgraded chip priced near 30 bucks all on ebay. crazy what 2 years did.

Seriously? My 12 core CPU, 128Gb RAM and new SSD for my old mac pro arrived yesterday. Just waiting to finish my current job on it before upgrading.

Please compare its video capabilities to anything modern, especially cheap. E.g. built-in Mac mini / MPB13 graphics or base MBP15 / iMac graphics.

Such a shame that the trash can analogy stuck (but yes I use it too). The design of this machine is masterful. This would be the perfect envelope for a kitted out balls to the walls Apple silicon machine.

Gotta love 16 bytes of ram paired with a 12 core monster

Hey Luke. Great channel. Long time viewer, first time posting. Anyway a have a few suggestions that I would watch. 1. 2013 Mac Pro hard drive speed test: M.2 NVME vs M.2 SSD vs Alibaba KingSpec cheap 2Tb M.2 2. 2013 Mac Pro 12c vs 2018 Mac Mini 17 3. Thunderbolt 2 external SSD (2.5" or M.2) enclosures 4. 128GB upgrade...does this really slow down the computer with a 12c processor? Thanks Luke!

i wanted this machine so much because this is a hell good of a deal foe me. the ECC REG ram in china is extremely cheap and the cpu too, not to mention about the ssd upgrade option which is also cheap in china too. (i live in hk) Also, as i am currently a mac mini (2014) user there are really no hassle to upgrade to a mac pro 2013.

I really want to see this Mac maxed out

Wicked video. I want one! Always liked the look of it. Think the d300 setup could run a 4k60 display scaled to 3008x1692 smoothly? Not video editing or gaming. My 2018 Mac mini needs and egpu to run the regular day to day ui smoothly.

I was able to score a 4 core/16gb/1tb/D300 machine that had some cosmetic issues on the case with a 1 year warranty add-on for around $800. Once I unload my cMP 5,1 I think it'll be pretty cheap. I just didn't want to fiddle with hacking on the 5,1 and I don't do pro level work so the GPU isn't as important to me. Can always eGPU that issue.

Hi Luke Love u :D 6 minutes after uploading i watched this

Maybe compare this to a 2018 mac mini with egpu for best cost/value. Especially to get us over the wait for ARM.

Can you compare 12-core Mac Pro 6.1 with 12-core, maxed out 5.1? For just the numbers, I happen to have one (with Radeon VII installed), can run any test you want

I still have my 2013 "trashcan" and still does everything I need. And I LOVE the design. I think it is the most beautiful Mac ever made. It is only the base 4 Core configuration. I did upgrade the RAM to 32GB. No other upgrades. Logic runs great as do photo/video apps. No plan to replace it until it dies. Hard to believe but the M1 Mac Mini has better performance so THAT would be my choice today. Hopefully the M2 Mac Mini will be out when its time to bury it. I use Carbon Copy Cloner to backup my data regularly...just in case. Loving it..still.

I know other people have mentioned it, but you should compare this Mac Pro with the 5,1 Mac Pro you built a while ago, to see what is the better value overall.

My 6 core MP2013 is quiet most of time, like now. The fan will blast when I'm doing stuff like Quicktime screenrecording, which I didn't think was that intensive.

Where die you find the processor? Didn’t find one for about that price you mentioned. Nice Video btw

Hi Mate , Fantastic video for a mac pro upgrade . I have a question , Is it possible to upgrade to e5-2697 V3 or V4 on this same machine ?. Cheers . Emmany

That’s wild how much the price dropped . I just bought one for $350 on eBay right now.