this is exactly how each bunkai should look like! no fancy additional moves, no hardly recognizable techniques: just clear explanation of essential steps a given kata consists of.

Very well done. One of the best bunkai for bassai dai on KZfaq. I am learning it now and it helped. Osu!

The type of bunkai we want 🙌💯

Nice I like it, good fight scene for a movie :) Alot of the Bunkai is the same as what I imagine when i practice this kata.

It is said that the Japanese did not get taught the full system of bunkai, when Karate left Okinawa.

Muito bem demonstrado,parabéns bukai muito bem feito.

It is a historical fact that the students of Funakoshi (and most Japanese Karatekas) never bothered to learn the actual techniques or bunkai but rather learned the sport version Itosu introduced to convert Karate into a sport for physical education. Look at the videos of Taika Seiyu Oyata to understand the original applications.

This is kihon bunkai.. Nice demo of kihon bunkai.. I think these sensei are leading sensei of JKF (or any Japanese association.. I'm not much aware of Japanese karate associations).. But, I believe the people who commented bad about this bunkai knows much more than these sensei.. So, these sensei has to go to them to study karate :(.. lol

That's because they are severely misunderstood in Shotokan and have been changed for aesthetic purposes. So you could say they were illogically redesigned. The old versions worked for hundreds of years before they ever landed in Japan. There's a good reason why most Okinawa's Karate masters of old became legendary, they never lost fights. Their katas were brilliantly designed, they understood them well, and they practiced them constantly. Shotokan "fixed" something that wasn't broken.

@weehoagie it0s nice to see why bassai dai has thos move sequences

muito bom! aplicação de técnicas de alto nivel com coordenação e firmeza nos movimentos. I like so much, very strong and high skill aplication. Short moviment and very strong

Perfect kata beautiful song. Oss!

exelente bunkai, muy bueno.

excellent

@soparamens I was so so saddened when I saw senior senior Shotokan member performing bunkai in such a way. This is an extremely basic version of demonstrating kihon kumite and is no longer in vogue. However, you made my day by referring me to the other page where they do a great at bunkai oyo (practical application). But there is a difference between oyo & kata, there were so many comments stating that the person on the other page had poor form doing bunkai, etc.

NOBODY ATTACKS BY GOING BACKWARDS!!!

unfortunately the real bunkai lost it's way from Okinawa to Japan. The linear techniques and the simplification of shotokan style had this consequence. 95 % of karate practitioners don't know what's the meaning of kata. I think I 'm one of them :)

EXCELLENT EXECUTION. A MASTER'S PERFORMANCE. THANK YOU

Good luck 😎

@Hikiwake10 Dude, what books on Karate history have you been reading? Do you know any Okinawan styles that encompass Naha-Te?

The video looks cool to me, but Id love to see this be used in real life situation

@Hikiwake10 Do you have documentation that connects those style to kARATE? ALSO, WHAT STYLE OF KARATE?

very good

@Hikiwake10 Excuse me, the reason books are written is so that you don't have to travel around the world. Traveling just becomes an option. The writers of my sources are acknowledged as credible historians both in Okinawa, Japan and the U.S. They have their sources and bibliography listed in the book as well, so others can do their own research to verify correct info and further study of the material. What informational books do you read?

Oss. As aplicações o estudo o bunkai . Kata não é só movimentos tem objetivo

@Hikiwake10 Hello!!! The books were written by historians who lived and trained and id their research in Okinawa and Japan!! Here - book by Patrick McCarthy: Ancient Okinawan Martial Arts: Koryu Uchinadi, Vol. 1and 2 (Tuttle Martial Arts) book by Mark Bishop: Okinawan Karate: Teachers, Styles and Secret Techniques

Who is performing? I recognize him from the Best Karate books. It's interesting to see the bunkai. You can tell he's a skilled karateka.

Shotokan concentrated on sparring using techniques more akin to fencing/kando in terms of timing and footwork adapted to Karate stances. That's why Machida uses the timing and striking method of Japanese Karate but not the grappling with nerve striking method of the Okinawan versions .

Omote Bunkai - Very Basic Applications. In order to progress to Henka - Variations and Ura - Secrets, you must first understand how to apply the basics, even if they don't work "correctly."

@Hikiwake10 Among "books" I mentioned, written by Westerners and Orientals alike: Patrick McCarthy, martial artist and historian who lived Okinawa and even visited China to follow the history of original Karate and its ties with Kung-Fu. Highly regarded by many Okinawan masters, such Soshin Nagamine, founder of Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu as an expert practitioner and walking Karate encyclopedia. How about Harry Cook? Historian who precisely documented Shotokan history?

@Hikiwake10 If you know so much about Shotokan history just because you are in Japan, name one Shotokan kata which came from Naha-te, if you know what Naha-te is. Also, who taught Funakoshi the kata. I got that answer from reading Funakoshi's book translated to English...

@niseikenpo Sadly, this is true. Historian Harry Cook reports in his history of Shotokan that Itosu did not teach the bunkai for the kata to any of his students. Thus, Funakoshi did not know the bunkai and all his students have had to make them up. Unfortunately for those who came after them, their efforts are strained and unrealistic.

This Bunkai is the "classic" interpretation of Bassai Dai Bunkai. There are plenty of other excellent Bunkai clips on KZfaq. Check out Didier Lupo's Bunkai for Nijushiho, for example.

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@Hikiwake10 Oh Please, I know who are in these videos. That's Osaka Sensei performing "Omote" bunkai. Omote bunkai are obvious, straight forward interpretations of the kata. Ura bunkai are alternate / hidden meanings of bunkai. Okuden bunkai are secret meanings, almost synonymous to Ura bunkai, depending on the teacher. I studied under Mori Sensei, JKA NY. Also, Crevani Sensei, Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu, NY, Gorai Sensei, Kyokushin, NY and now I practice BJJ, Matt Serra's Long Island.

@nintai79 bunkai is kata with oponents... search wiki

@soparamens It's "unrealistic" because it simply demonstrates that each move in the kata has a combat related application. It's safe to assume that the intention of this video was not to go into the advanced and reliable techniques, simply to ingrain that the practice of kata is not, in and of itself, a worthless endeavor.

@weehoagie this was done in the late 60s \70s plus looks Japanese not Okinawan..guessing they werent taught the deeper meanings of kata

@Hikiwake10 The word martial arts come from two words: Martial, comes from Mars, the Roman God of War, which points to subjects related to war, such as fighting. Art, as everyone knows, relates to expression or communication. So, the word Martial Art pertains to any subject, sport or not, as related to war or fighting. Boxing, be it a sport, is related to fighting and qualifies as a martial art. So does Greco-Roman wrestling. Kendo, for example, is both a sport and martial art.

@karateivaneitor "bunkai" creo que es "descomponer" hay no hay descomposción de nada... los atacantes se adaptan a la ejecución del kata de una manera que no llego a comprender. No sé qué es o para qué sirve pero no sirve para dar al practicante unas pautas "usables" en combate o defensa personal... si me apuras todo lo contrario. Ese kata es muy rico en aplicaciones muy interesantes para combate y defensa personal y no las he visto por ningún lado. un saludo

Most of the Shotokan kata's are illogically designed. Some techniques combinations are good, but there are also a lot that don't make any sense. To make the bunkai of the kata work, you have to adapt them strongly. I think that the reason the kata are so as today, comes from a combination of secrecy and misinterpretation. Teachers sometimes kept secrets from their students, and students didn't do their homework always right.

What specific point of kata and karate is this demonstration missing in your opinion? I agree, most of this bunkai is simplistic and ridiculous, especially all of the blocking with no counter or pre-emption, but you make it sound as though all kata has a deeper point beyond that of solo practice.

Shotokan merely resembles the original karate of Okinawa. When Funakoshi took it to Japan they loved it, as a form of physical exercise. For this reason the bunkai was not taught. Names were changed to be easier for the Japanese to learn and pronounce. Kata movements and stances were changed to be more aesthetically pleasing to them with no regard for the intention of the kata or for effective martial application. It became to them an exercise and a sport. This is NOT the Karate or Tode of old.

@Hikiwake10 I just looked up "Tai ji Baqua Xsin Yi " and there are more than a hundred sites with info on the subject. That shows that it is a widely known art in the Western world. So, what proof do you have that backs up your statement, since I could easily get the info about the art on the internet?

Da Medioevo Giapponese....

That was completely terrible!! They missed almost all of the hidden bunkai Bassai is not just simple blocks. There are countless locks, breaks etc etc.

@saligkaros there is hope..search Oyata seminars on youtube..old school okinawan teaches ryukyu Kempo\ ryu-te

Infelizmente o que foi propagado para a globalização do karatê naquela época, foi deficitário no aspecto de efetividade da grande variedade de golpes que o karatê possui. Historicamente não sei se esses instrutores "kenshusei" foram orientados a não compartilhar o conhecimento correto e inventar esse Bunkai ineficiente, ou se não treinavam mesmo, focando no aspecto competitivo. O que sei é que grande parte do que existe em vídeo daquela época na prática não tem aplicação pois o "agressor" só ataca com Oi Zuki (golpe muito pouco usado em uma luta real) ou Mae Geri (isolado e sem continuidade também é pouco usado no combate real). Assim o karatê ensinado por esses "renomados" mestres não é completo e falta a efetividade e eficiência dos golpes. O que temos é um extrato muito pequeno de uma arte muito rica e eficiente na luta real, mas que por jamais questionarmos esses mestres japoneses (por respeito) o conhecimento se limitou a golpes em linha e alguns chutes circulares. O lado bom de tudo isso é que existem vários karatecas que se deram por conta e correram atrás do prejuízo. Eu tenho a oportunidade de treinar com um professor que se dedica a além do esporte de combate, ensinando o que vivenciou, porém essa não é a realidade de muitos Dojos. Não é renegar o passado mas entender que o que foi ensinado está, infelizmente, errado e não interessa se foi o Nakayama ou um mestre altamente renomado que falou ou demonstrou, o errado é errado independentemente de quem fala ou faz. Oss

this is nothing more than a coordination drill .everybody searches for the elusive "original bunkai" which doesn't exist as no interpretation can be considered the one and only true interpretation .different experience and depth of knowledge by different sensei means different bunkai and even those are subject to henka or variation.If this is the only bunkai he knows then his knowledge has very lttle depth.

@Hikiwake10 If you're going to research Karate history, you don't have to look into every Kung-Fu style. Original Karate (Tou-Di) is a mix of a few Kung-Fu styles and Okinawan styles (Koryu Uchinanchi). What are your sources? Your sensei told you bla-bla-bla?

NAME SOUND??? PLISSSSSSSSSSSS

@Hikiwake10 Whether BJJ originated with Judo or Jujitsu (the forerunner of Judo) is not the point. Its a martial art which holds no secret teaching withheld from Westerners. And I know Maeda (count Koma) trained in Kosen Judo. The origin of Muay Thai is also irrelevant to the argument because we are talking about "secrets" being withheld to Westerners; Muay Thai techniques are so simple to learn, what kind of "secrets" from the art can be withheld? None.

@Hikiwake10 Name the school and I bet you I can find evidence. Did you say Tai vji Baqua Xsin Yi?

ESTE ES BUNKAI Y NO MAMADAS

@Hikiwake10 Ya... again name one technique or even a citation of a Chinese author to support your answer.

@Hikiwake10 And name one Muay Thai technique from way back then which isn't known to Western martial artists today... As I said, man comes only with one head, connected by one neck, to one torso... etc. Almost every martial art available has passed knowledge to the West of how to strike and grapple so there is really nothing new.

Very nice performance - BUT, I'm not a fan of attackers just walking away or stepping back. As it's mostly agreed that there are no hidden moves in kata, this to me, must mean the application is incorrect?

I think that you would be greatly led astray if you take this as a definitive bunkai for bassai dai - it ignores chunks of the kata, and assumes that the attacker is an idiot. At best, this is the omote applicaton - the superficial bunkai, but for deeper (ura) bunkai look up the videos of John Burke or Iain Abernethy.

@Hikiwake10 Don't get me wrong, I know the ugliness of Japanese dojo politics and its ties to racism, but Okinawans, like Thai people are not racist. As a matter of fact, despite Funakoshi and Mabuni being accepted as Karate sensei in mainland Japan, Okinanwans were still looked down upon by Japanese during WWII. Read about the history of the US invasion of Okinawa and what the American soldiers discovered of how the Japanese were treating Okinawan refugees.

@Hikiwake10 That's funny. I didn't know Karate was a racist art...

these karate do not work on the street...

@weehoagie This comment is totally devoid of any understanding that this video demonstrates that kata practice is not without it's merits. The basic applications are for the effect of demonstrating the kata and applications without straying from the true form of the kata.

@Hikiwake10 Look up Patrick McCarthy's book."Bubishi: The Classic Manual of Combat". Read how he traveled to China and talked to and trained with famous masters of Fukkien White Crane, the original Kung-Fu style where most Naha-Te forms come from. There are also documentation on video and literature of Westerners training in Shaolin Temple in China. So what's the proof of your statement? Don't say "my sensei told me so and so..." because anybody can say that...

If this is the original Bassaidai bunkai, it is a disappointment.

@Hikiwake10 Boxing? Really? They kept the secret teachings of Boxing from Westerners? Also Brazilian Jujitsu? Is Brazil in the east? Last I checked, it was in South America and created by Brazilians, based on Jujitsu... Also, what so secret about Muay Thai? What's so complicated about it, that "secret" can be hidden? How about Greco-Roman wrestling? That also has secrets only Okinawans and Japanese know of, despite it being invented by Westerners?

@Hikiwake10 You haven't even answered any of my questions! That's incredibly shameful, especially if your in Japan and have access to all this "knowledge"! BAKA!!

@Hikiwake10 Also, name a technique which is not known to Westerners? You haven't answered that question yet because you don't have any answers. You think you know everything about Karate just because you live in Japan. I trained with Japanese in JKA, NY who had no clue of Shotokan history or bunkai. Mind you, they trained in Japan like you, before coming to New York!

that is not real bunkai. first, it does not mimic ANY kind of real attack. no one will EVER attack you in zenkutsu dachi stepping in with an oyi zuki. second, do you think someone is going to be so intimidated by you blocking one of their punches that you will be able to turn your back on them without counter-striking to block a punch from the other opponent you saw with your second set of eyes behind you? kihon bunkai like this is a waste of time because it is completely unrealistic.

Completamente lamentável .

@Hikiwake10 There's nothing really new to the Westerner. He just has to do the research himself. Today, masters have no reason to hold information. If so, what good would that info really be? It changes over time and has no permanence. As I said, your "my sensei showed me... bla bla bla " gets you no where in any logical discussion or debate.

@Hikiwake10 Then I'd prefer BJJ, Boxing, Greco-Roman wrestling, Muay Thai, Aikido, Judo, Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Hwarang Do, Arnis, Escrima, Kali, Kendo, Iaido, Naginata Do, Kyudo, Aikijutsu, Wing Chun, Fukkien White Crane, Shaolin Lohan, Tai Chi Chuan and Jeet Kune Do, etc BECAUSE KARATE IS A RACIST ART, AND TEACHES BULLSHIT TO EVERYONE EXCEPT OKINAWANS AND JAPANESE.