Burnout VS Depression

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@ericag890 Жыл бұрын

If you don’t take care of your burn out, it becomes depression.

@ML-HS Жыл бұрын

agree with that statement. It's last stage along with anxiety.

@tinam761 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I feel like I’ve had both. And thirdly, anxiety for the win mentioned…

@dasilvadouglas1462 Жыл бұрын

Yes, completely agree

@yesno4378 Жыл бұрын

I can but doesn't always

@mariannesartcorner 10 ай бұрын

I agree, but that is because burnout is quite similar to depressipn. Many people confuse burnout with being overstressed

@mikamee5459 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Honestly I thought I was depressed...just giving those two scenarios helped me. I noticed a deep depression but whenever I took a vacation people said I was a different person.

@ONESTOREUP870 Жыл бұрын

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@jerrymylove1754 11 ай бұрын

I did the same thing and noticed I felt like a new man when going back to work. I likened it to recharging my battery. However, when I left that high stress job and became self employed I missed that stress and I am now deeply depressed.

@kagitsune Жыл бұрын

A week? I'd expect it to be more like 2 or 3 months if the burnout is severe. This is why some careers offer sabatticals every few years.

@annaburns2865 Жыл бұрын

Only religious ones do. Or maybe college professors do too. Most careers don’t have that and it shows.

@kagitsune Жыл бұрын

@@annaburns2865 Yep, I was mostly thinking of academia! And a few rare cases in non-profits.

@xxxoxxoxxx Жыл бұрын

It’s torture when you’re experiencing both at the same time 😖

@sdonna3882 Жыл бұрын

Hello stranger hope you feel better soon❤️‍🩹

@youdontknowme5969 Жыл бұрын

I waver between the two. With a side of worthlessness.

@annaburns2865 Жыл бұрын

I used to feel worthless too. Then I realized that I was a daughter of the most High king. And His name is Jesus. Well actually I’m Jesus’ sister. That actually makes me feel even better.

@G-Sagittastellium Жыл бұрын

Yup

@xxxoxxoxxx Жыл бұрын

@@sdonna3882 Thank you! Also, I hope you’re doing well, take care 🤍

@gymnasticsgirlie0647 Жыл бұрын

Worth mentioning that burnout can't always be cured in a week, especially if you've stayed in that state for a long time.

@crystallwilliamson7669 Жыл бұрын

I wished more ppl understood this! I get SO tired of ppl telling me to just get over it or snap out of it!

@markrpatterson9717 Жыл бұрын

I have a family member who used to tell me, "you just have to remember everything you have to be thankful for" as if I had a problem with my memory.

@random.mom5133 Жыл бұрын

Or they say, "it's just about stopping the negative thoughts and thinking of the positive." Lol it's easier said than done

@barkhaaaaa 9 ай бұрын

@@random.mom5133oh my god. someone in my family JUST told me the exact same thing when i told them what i was feeling. felt so misunderstood.

@Ah-Sol 8 ай бұрын

Consider yourself lucky to have family to talk to this about even if they do give you wrong advice ( due to ignorance ) their hearts are in the right place

@free2express08 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I experienced burnout during the pandemic thinking I was depressed. It was a huge learning curve.

@Kami43644 Жыл бұрын

I really thought i was depressed, I was so tired all the time and unmotivated and had so much stress, but once I figured out the root of the problem, school stress, I made arrangements to graduate early and get out of there and now I feel amazing

@jeremyscheatday7305 Жыл бұрын

Being self-employed and avoiding burnout is a constant struggle.

@toploz_jr5597 9 ай бұрын

You can be self employed and still burn yourself out. Some people are the worst boss for themselves

@RhondaR4 Жыл бұрын

Burnout and Dissociation is what I'm experiencing. Can you better explain these two? Thank you very much!

@RhondaR4 Жыл бұрын

@J U, I'm going through that. My shoulders hurts so much. Its hard to do anything. Thank you very much!❤️

@corvanphoenix 11 ай бұрын

This is how I knew I had depression. My life looked great to an outsider. I was still desperate & in free fall, on the inside.

@missyface5 Жыл бұрын

You can definitely have both. I just quit my toxic job after 3 and a half years due to mental health. I can feel the burnout leaving after only 2 days even though I don't have another job lined up.

@septicember Жыл бұрын

i flew to Vegas for three days and i was so stressed about my useless brothers feeding my cats that i couldmt relax 😂 having that person who can take away the stress for a short time makes a BIG difference. i was so exhausted when i got back lol

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@septicember Жыл бұрын

@Unearthly Awareness you can't choose family lmao 🙃

@AunyxRaShea Жыл бұрын

@@septicember I feel you. Yesterday I delegated a task of unclogging the sink (that one of them clogged in the first place) to my brothers, and they broke off the plumbing. 🙃

@therealkoolaidandkale Жыл бұрын

Whatever; I feel you. 😂 I cut a vacation a day short and came home early because the thought of the level of incomptent care likely being provided (or not being provided, rather- like keeping enough water available for her, and giving her enough time to do her bathroom business)- being provided to my poodle, I couldn't even enjoy the vacation. 😭

@CasualKnitter Жыл бұрын

I agree, just a few days away don't relax you and takes the stress away... I hope your cats are good and that you offer more self care to yourself

@jadebaxter8181 Жыл бұрын

are there other conditions that cause people to genuinely care about nothing? I've never considered myself depressed but that vacation example definitely applies to me.

@kritkratt6383 11 ай бұрын

You possibly could be on the antisocial personality spectrum

@a.r.bolton3995 Жыл бұрын

So it’s a toss up bc I can sometimes get better after a break and sometimes I’ll just quietly mope and I’ll never know the difference until later. Fantastic

@andizana Жыл бұрын

Burnout hits me so hard sometimes that it triggers depression if I can't get a break. Or the other way around. If i force myself to do normal things while my mind is in a dark place it will build the stress and lead to burn out.

@andizana Жыл бұрын

@@JU-pq6qu i don't always get burned out. And sometimes when I'm in a low place, i do what i can. The bare minimum like brush my teeth or eat. Shower if i can. Take care of myself as best as I can. Kinda push myself when i need to and let myself be low and do nothing when I'm able. Having a balance and not putting too much pressure on yourself when you're in a bad headspace is very important, especially if you regularly struggle with depression or depressive episodes.

@annaburns2865 Жыл бұрын

@J U It does really work that way. If you don’t force yourself to do things, someone else will or you can be called lazy. And worse case scenario, no one else is there and you really don’t have a reason to get up off the floor. Then you just self destruct and have a panic attack until you fall asleep which you really can’t do very easily because you can having waking nightmares called hallucinations. If you really had nothing to do and no one else to live for then that would probably lead to suicide especially if you are already in a dark place. Your advice is not good.

@andizana Жыл бұрын

@@annaburns2865 i think you need to be more patient with yourself. You need to be the reason you take care of yourself. You can't put that responsibility on others, especially of you want to heal.

@andizana Жыл бұрын

@@JU-pq6qu the right people will be able to see you are trying and love you for you, rather than not loving you bc you're unwell. Love yourself first and the right people will come along. Just try to strive as best as you can.

@annaburns2865 Жыл бұрын

@@andizana No man is an island. I do love myself. But a life without others is really not one worth living. Why do you and everyone else reject me? It’s no way to live. The most loving thing I can do for myself, especially if what you say is true, is end in all. But actually I think you are lying. It’s because you can’t take any of the responsibility for yourself.

@MelanieGraceTV Жыл бұрын

Dr. Marks, you are wonderful. ❤️ Thank you for your amazingly helpful videos! You are appreciated!

@johnsonsgreen928 Жыл бұрын

true. i've spent so much money to "stop" the sadness but unfortunately it's still there. now im in an unfamiliar island, bloated from the food i didn't enjoy, spent so much money, and still depressed.

@kleinerplagegeistplagegeis5057 Жыл бұрын

@J U It is true that depression often comes with apathy and anhedonia, but for some the overwhelming sadness is also part of their symptoms. Of course there are symptoms people have in common, but in my experience depression really does have multiple faces. I think that is why it is so important to follow the doctors advice, because ideally they target your main symtoms e.g sleep problems, exhaustion, anhedonia or sadness. In all cases it is a real disease and not a mood that can be cured by vacation. And sometimes one needs medicine.

@annaburns2865 Жыл бұрын

Yes. This is why I hate when they say depression and sadness aren’t the same thing, because sometimes they are. The only difference is, sadness usually goes away. Unless you are depressed. Then it’s like you have a raincloud following you around. Like Eeyore, and occasionally the other characters in Winnie the Pooh. (That show really did explain depression the best way. You can have brief moments of happiness and you can feel anger, frustration, and affection. But you will still be sad too.

@annaburns2865 Жыл бұрын

@J U actually I really think Worldpain should be a word in English. I have been told that I have a big heart and wear my heart on my sleeve. These two phrases mean that I have social empathy and can feel emotions that other people are going through. It really is like “worldpain.” Thank you for the new term. 🤔 hugs 🤗

@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane Жыл бұрын

@J U "All-encompassing" sounds like it might be a fitting English term for "Worldpain"... like it's all around you, like how the world is all around you...? I'm sorry you feel this way sometimes. 😢

@dianalopez4280 Жыл бұрын

Well during vacation I was certainly releaved but returning back to my real life is always kind of sad😅for my mother she said I was worse after returning xd but during vacation I was really feeling that I was alive

@thereisnoninadria Жыл бұрын

What is it when you have to do all your work prior to taking the vacation and jane is mad about having to cover for the things that came up while you were gone? And this is the case each time you ask for time off.

@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane Жыл бұрын

@J U American (of partial German decent 😊) here, and yes, it's definitely a problem for our mental health! The problem is, corporations have taken over our system and now have more rights than individuals because they pay off our lawmakers through lobbying to make the laws to their advantage. I've maxed out or have come very close to maxing out my time off hours a few times (we don't accrue anymore once we max out, so I've lost hundreds of dollars worth of vacation time I couldn't get approved for time off). I'm close to maxing out again, and we continue to have staff shortages... going on for YEARS now... so I still may not be able to use my vacation hours. It's to the point where it's so stressful trying to get a day off, it's not even worth asking, especially when it will probably be denied anyway. They have many excuses, but I bet the higher managers are getting their bonuses for saving the company money, and they're also getting THEIR vacations! Their biggest excuse is "vacations days are not guaranteed and depend on staffing" yet there's NEVER enough staff. WTF?! Burned out? I'm burnt to a crisp! Maybe I should move to Germany... it sounds so nice there! (Edited for spelling/grammar... because my brain is fried!)

@simplicitylost Жыл бұрын

Yeah, in that circumstance, for me (officially diagnosed with major depressive disorder), I would feel excited for the trip, and I’ll probably be happy when I land… but after a while (sometimes a day or two, but could be just a few hours), I will feel sad again. Also, sometimes momentary distractions (e.g., seeing a movie) can help delay depression, which sometimes makes me feel like maybe I’m not _that_ depressed. But then I remember I only go to the movies once or twice a year (I used to go monthly). Another weird inconsistency is that when I’m at home, I _rarely_ go out. Like, I’d rather have something delivered than go get it (even when it’s a place right down the street). But then I can get on a plane to see my best (and really, only) friend (who moved 2,300 miles away in 2021). But when I get there, I prefer to stay in his apartment. He’ll sometimes manage to coax me out to go somewhere, but I rarely want to- it’s usually for his sake.

@austincde Жыл бұрын

Ha I feel seen

@marlenegold280 11 ай бұрын

No thyroid disease?

@simplicitylost 11 ай бұрын

@@marlenegold280 You’re asking do I have thyroid disease? No. I’ve been tested several times.

@marlenegold280 11 ай бұрын

@@simplicitylost Was not stating you specifically have thyroid disease. ‘You’ was a general You.

@ckarndusunme4394 Жыл бұрын

what if i can become rejuvenated relaxed happy but the moment i come back i am depressed again?

@kritkratt6383 11 ай бұрын

That’s exactly how I feel. No matter how low and down and in trenches I’ve been if I was able to escape and adventure..my mind was off of that for at least the time being

@hippychicken82 Жыл бұрын

This is such a good video! So it seems i have burnout a lot and not depression!

@AlicePDaly Жыл бұрын

This isn't correct. A mild burn out, maybe. An actual full burn out lasts for months and holidays are not recommended purely because its also draining

@vincenttacraebnam8379 Жыл бұрын

Jane wouldn’t work and I’ll have to hear it when I’m back - I’m both burnt and depressed - nothing changes if nothing changes. Quitting could save me.

@jerrymylove1754 11 ай бұрын

I went from burnout to depression. Been like this my whole life.

@aribella6913 Жыл бұрын

Big big thanks. That is my diagnosis. Burn out!

@xyz-jv9df Жыл бұрын

I cannot tell you the number of people that are annoyed with me when I don't take their advice and go on a vacation to treat my depression. . . When I tell them that the depression makes it impossible for me to feel joy when on vacation, they think I just don't wanna get better

@jhavajoe3792 Жыл бұрын

It helps you love what you do in your career for going a longer distance before burnout. After loving my interest and my own biz, I still burnt the hell out at the 10-15 year mark. I mean burnt out!

@thealtspoon2770 Жыл бұрын

I would be curious to learn more about how burnout happens with things that aren’t just work and school. Like autistic burn out from masking or being burnt out from being chronically ill. A lot of people tend to label me as depressed because of my outward symptoms, I don’t think they understand how much I would love to just to “take a vacation” but I cannot take a vacation from my disability, so all I can do is rest. I do have passions, hobbies, and deep care for many things. My disability takes up so much of my mental energy most days I don’t have the ability to care for those things. I can’t fight it, as much as I wish I could get up and do stuff, Especially helping people, and I don’t enjoy not being able to work either. When i am doing better, people don’t understand it came from days or weeks of rest that they called “depression”. Every time I need space to reset I’m still spending energy defending myself and reassuring others that I’m in fact in therapy and in fact know what I’m doing. Frustrating.

@Catlily5 Жыл бұрын

I have autism and a physical disability. I would like to know as well.

@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion! I would love to see that as well, and same with ADHD. Many people have both conditions.

@too_tired_for_this 8 ай бұрын

Oh my god, that just explained so much to me. I never understand people who take a vacation and feel rejuvenated. I’m miserable or numb no matter where I am.

@steviesosa5617 Жыл бұрын

Wait, so I'm not depressed? What the hay man 😂

@otaku3OBSESSION 8 ай бұрын

Nothing is worse than going on a vacation to "heal" from burnout, but instead feeling the anxiety of all the work you'll have to do when returning. The dread, the exhaustion. Making it difficult to really enjoy anything. Knowing that no matter how much "relaxing" you do, it will never be enough.

@roxywyndham Жыл бұрын

Burnout triggers my depression

@sophiafenger 7 ай бұрын

This honestly is such a great example. It makes so much sense with your explanation!

@Lovejunkooky 11 ай бұрын

i’m medically diagnosed with depression, but i can still enjoy things. Depression is a broad spectrum with different expirence se for everyone

@johnlomax2502 Жыл бұрын

Doctor. You are awesome. I know someone who is going through classic burnout at this moment.

@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane Жыл бұрын

Burn out... Definitely burn out. But I'm gonna need at least a MONTH in Bora Bora to feel better after these last 3 damn years! Thanks doc, for the excellent description of both! I was kinda wondering if I was depressed, but I'm definitely burnt to a crisp! 😂

@abhishekdurgude5165 Жыл бұрын

Thank you that so much helped me I having burnout from last 2 years i recently taken the therapy i am improving day by day

@srirachasteve3511 10 ай бұрын

damn… that explains why “breaks” between work/school/etc. don’t help me pull myself together. I’m exhausted but even when i’m off the clock and not under extra stress, depression sure sticks around

@hannah.paints 9 ай бұрын

Finally a quick and simple explanation...thank you doc! ❤

@gagecarty4290 Жыл бұрын

Yes with depression that often can make it worse, are you trying to get rid of me

@nargozot8043 11 ай бұрын

When she started going on “this person wont be mad at you and will take care of all the work you need to do while you’re gone” made my shoulders drop 3 inches. Omg I am burnt out and I thought I was just being a sadsack.

@jamzyy 10 ай бұрын

100% well said.

@kritkratt6383 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for convincing me I have burnout because man I have been depressed for years but I still swear a trip to bora bora would rejuvenate 😂

@janets7291 11 ай бұрын

Yep, I lived this exact thing. I could be on the best vacation ever and it would do nothing to shift my depression. It was a painful way to live.

@civa1117 Жыл бұрын

I went on a holiday for a few weeks. But I couldn't really enjoy it because I was so tired all the time. + the thought of having to go back to work after my holiday...and the thought of having to pick up all the responsibility/heavy workload (bc working in Healthcare never stops/work is never done). Just made me even more stressed while on holiday.

@antoniotolentino8108 11 ай бұрын

I’ve made something similar to describe my depression I said could win a million dollars and still wouldn’t make me happy or make it better.

@LindaSmith-vq1br Жыл бұрын

Thank you makings this so clear. I have tried to explain it in the past. You rock!

@G-Sagittastellium Жыл бұрын

This is really validating !! Thank you so much Dr. Marks ❤

@MandiSmash 9 ай бұрын

Please do videos for people who have multiple conditions at the same time like burnout AND depression.

@ColonelFluffles 11 ай бұрын

"the darkness"... Remember people: it's the darkness.

@Eflodur Жыл бұрын

If you have a severe Brunout at least in europe it means that your energy is completely down often with heavy psychosomatic symptoms and stress related problems.

@angelc813 9 ай бұрын

Lifelong depression created the perfect storm for burnout. I sat on the ocean crying my eyes out for the entire vacation. Depression for me has been a lifelong illness that I battle on the daily.

@MamaCancer23 10 ай бұрын

Thanks you for the differentiations! Both are terrible feelings for sure.

@JR-sb6mj Жыл бұрын

I know this very well 🙃 Living with depression is hard.

@dmrgen 9 ай бұрын

this convinced me to go on vacation, thanks!

@brandillysmom Жыл бұрын

If I knew that someone else (or several someones…) could and would help and reset everything that was overwhelming me, exactly in the scenario that this psychologist presented, I would be in a good space. ……

@HP_Quinn 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your amazing explanations

@canaldoxerxes 10 ай бұрын

Dr. Marks, these short videos that you make are so informative and, as someone who's been struggling with depression for 18 years, I feel validated, and understood, and that I can show this to people close to me so they can understand better my condition.

@johnnganga5597 8 ай бұрын

Thanks madam you are helping us,

@dreamthemusicnow Жыл бұрын

Excellent distinction!

@catofninetales3125 Жыл бұрын

What if you have the depression and burnout after a traumatic series of events over an extended period of time that ends in the cared-for loved one's death and nothing feels good?

@katiekawaii Жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT explanation

@user-ve7qx1nh4q 10 ай бұрын

I’d love to hear a video about experiencing burnout on top of depression

@KatsNook Жыл бұрын

Can a burnout trigger a depressive spell? Sort of starts as burnout but then turns into the depression.

@Defirence Жыл бұрын

I'd guess so

@dalitrh 8 ай бұрын

I'm more depressed when I probably have the least reason to be it. Last time I took a vacation to a warmer place, I was not happy for a second..

@Eeeeehhh 8 ай бұрын

can you please talk about the different types of burnout, like stress related, autistic/neurodivergent burnout, etc?

@rebh2602 11 ай бұрын

Yay!! I’m burned out I was worried I was depressed but I’m exhausted and have too much to do and not enough resources to do it all …. I would love it if someone would wipe my slate clean 😅😅😅😅 🙏🙏🙏 thank you for the explanation it makes so much sense and there are people who have that cloud sadly and nothing can remedy it

@bchandler81 Жыл бұрын

Love you & your educational videos. I’m always watching, learning & sharing your wisdom.

@BelovedbyAdonai Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU ❗🎯👏👏👏😌👍

@A.gamer_ Жыл бұрын

I have high functioning depression. Basically, I work full-time, still do things outside of work and people will think I'm fine. Truth is, I'm in survival mode, I don't enjoy things, when I laugh it's not joy that I feel, it's the need to be ok for others. I am working on it though. Learning to enjoy things again, learning about myself, what actually makes me happy and trying to achieve that. It's not easy, but my therapist is a wonderful person

@malekyounes35 10 ай бұрын

kindly can you tell me excatly what your therapist tell you to do to manage your depression?

@A.gamer_ 10 ай бұрын

@@malekyounes35 for me, we've established where my depression comes from, which in my case is a variety of factors and experiences. I have a lot of breathing and meditation exercises atm to focus on things that are going well, instead of reliving things that are no longer happening. One of the things that worked very well for me is an exercise where I relive a positive experience while listening to a certain tune of my choice. The idea behind it is that because my brain will associate that tune with the positive feeling I can trick my brain and body into reliving that all because of the tune itself. So that works well for me.

@MattJDylan 9 ай бұрын

Oh hey, I have both! 2/2 babyyyyy 🎉

@darrenwareing5715 Жыл бұрын

It took me a year to get over my burnout

@sarahkeppler8043 11 ай бұрын

Yeah... like a week would actually make a differance.

@ShohiniSaha1 Жыл бұрын

This was really helpful

@adrianlmcleod Жыл бұрын

It’s a mixed bag for me. I’ve had both, separately and frequently together. Recently, I’ve been looking at the difference, in my own experience. This video confirmed that I normally have them together.

@PoliAstroN 8 ай бұрын

Severe burnout means you need to remove yourself entirely from the situation and not worry about it for a second. In regards to the example- you would need to quit the job entirely in order to do that

@AlexAsselin 9 ай бұрын

❤always great advice.

@Carnibee 11 ай бұрын

Well sh*t 😅 I just got back from a week long cruise to three exotic locations. Most definitely depressed.

@msshawrunda 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@altovisedavis5860 11 ай бұрын

I'm gonna make that small burnout clip a manifestation audio. I'm already in Bora Bora as this is on repeat. Thank you Dr. Tracey!

@jamesc5801 Жыл бұрын

Omg, you describing that week off filled me with yearning XD

@UniversalMysticsOfChrist Жыл бұрын

Good explanation

@angellee9307 11 ай бұрын

Thanks. We should try

@marjoriejohnson6535 9 ай бұрын

I have had both plus PTSD..

@anyahoskins1216 Жыл бұрын

Wow! This was very enlightening. Thank you

@LurkingLinnet 10 ай бұрын

Thank-you❤ depression is fucking real n it sucks!

@LifeDeathResurrection 10 ай бұрын

My mom got cancer, i got depressed. Thought i could handle it on my own, even rejected a doctor who recommended anti depressants. So what ended up happening is me failing my first semester of last year of school continuously and going into a not caring what happens to my grades. Well, now i think maybe if i had taken anti depressants i would have gotten better faster. By thirds semester I worked just barely enough to pass. Yeah depression and Chemistry ap calculus ap and physics ap don't really mix well. About my mom she completed chemo beat cancer and now shes on hormone therapy for 5 years. She will be fine inshallah. She did her mammo gram recently and it came clear and she did thr blood tests and her liver which was basically dieing because chemo therapy was killing it along with the cancer. She had breast cancer, her hair is growing back and I am glad we made it through this. Thank God Almighty the creator and sustainer of this universe