Why did you reupload this? Was there a problem?

yeah, technical issue

@@CassiusDX OK.

Dagos

Damn that’s cold haba

Underrated comment!

TRUUUUTH

Could even be considered Earth history. Animals do it too. Even or especially to there own.

I wouldn’t consider conquest stealing

@@fisherman695 when did we take those lands? As far as I know (except for Vietnam which is in the hands of the north Vietnamese), all the lands you mentioned are not, and never were taken from their people.

Fair enough.

I'm not going to downplay the accomplishments of my ancestors, but I agree. I've traveled Europe quite a bit and I am of mainly English, Scottish, and German descent. If you've never been to Eurpope, I can tell you, castles are a dime a dozen. On our last trip to Scotland I really started focusing on the history of each one vs the architecture and function. Bascilly it came down to one dude taking shit from another dude and building something to protect it or show it off. It was a little disheartening, but still, great accomplishments and I respect the ones that tried to be fair. It's hard to debate that great societies have risen from these "dudes" fighting.

Innocent whites?😂😂😂😂

I have friends who are Mescalero, White Mountain and Jicarilla Apache and they echo your words.

As a person of White descent from Brazil, I can say: I agree with you - we fought and killed eachother for far too long, and now, its too tiresome to carry on with the grudge... The widows and orphans indeed deserve land of their own. We, man, can work for ourselves to achieve it. I believe you know the bitter taste of ash when you "win" - yeah, I finally got it... ..but at what cost? Why? For who? It seems we are haunted by the ghosts of our ancestors, who thought little of their descendents, and demanded blood for the sake of their pride, and in the process, it broke ALL of us...

Yeah, he came prepared with 2024 White Man Fear rhetoric.

If only Custer would have been so prepared 😬

@@Musica78237this was filmed in 2007 where the mindset was much different, 17 years ago. Stop trying to fight the uncomfortable truth and grow up

@@Musica78237 cringe

@@bradleybreslin945 Custer had it coming

You helping us or siding with China when we play cowboys and Chinese?

@@MichaelWilliams-fl4hx You should look up the history of the native americans fighting with the us especially the world wars. They have done a lot for america.

@@zacharymartin9151 I probably know more history then you do.

Real talk.. Much respect..

​@@MichaelWilliams-fl4hxhumm..? That's a wild, yet somehow, appropriate question..!!😂

I mean, so long as you don't lie to yourself and treat the ordeal like a big ass duel, it's really about as simple and efficient as you can make a conquest. 1 big fight, man to man, winner takes all.

Is that really a proverb? It’s good.

Two wrongs don't make a right - English proverb

@@arcsaber1127 No they do not, but we're here now. Learn from it or repeat it.

Naw. Some greedy prospectors will get it. Your dumb ass will get alcoholism, PTSD, and a cheap army pension.

Yeah but we've known that for a long, long time. Even Miles knew it. When people NOW say things like "reeee the American Indians weren't peaceful", it causes others to roll their eyes.

Its not the land taking thats messed up. Its the genocide. How many natives do you know? This land used to be full of them.

@@kingstarscream3807 It causes people who don't want to know history to roll their eyes. If you went to most public schools and were taught for 13 years that America was a peaceful, loving continent for 10,000 years before any Europeans showed up, then you will definitely roll your eyes.

The Indian cheif literally argued like a woman. Void of all reason. Just blames. Takes no responsibility. Gets violent when they got not argument.

@@erc9468 no everyone knows this. It's more propaganda from alt right people. Same as suggesting slavery wasn't an important factor during the Civil War. The bastardization of history from people who demand to see themselves as heroes when they performed the actions of villains.

No hypocrisy in that statement at all.

He knew what their primary mission there was. He wasn't self-delusional like most then. You generally don't reach the rank of Colonel back then by being an idealist, or deluding yourself

Read up on Nelson Miles and his military career and you won't respect him as much

It’s not hypocrisy. He’s saying it belongs to whoever can claim and defend it. If you lose, it’s not yours anymore. The hypocrisy is “indigenous” people always invoking some spiritual or holy right to a place as soon as they face a superior enemy.

@@kjf729 What gave the white people the right to land here and then say all your shit is now ours, move to a reservation and accept you fate as our slaves?

OK Westley.

Inconceivable!

⁠you keep using that word...I don't think it means what you think it means..

Favorite movie and book

​@@nathanrosman-bakehouse359 RIP William Goldman

I don't understand how a non-psychopath can admit that and still go on. Baffling humans

Some people WERE on a righteous mission. Not every single person was a soldier, a king, a farmer, or a missionary. Everyone had their reasons.

@@SalvableRuinare you saying missionaries weren’t on a righteous mission?

You need to go to school and study history.There's a big difference between breaking a treaty and actually conquering or winning a war.

​@@TheChadPadsure thing. Imposing your beliefs and culture on other people's isn't righteous. But then again, if you think that your ways are the correct ones, then you likely think that imposing your beliefs on others is the righteous thing to do.

THAT'S a land acknowledgement I'd like to see!

Comanches raided Mexico and the Southwest for 400 years and killed more Native Americans than the White man. Think about it you Socialists! Indians were winning up until the 1870-1887 and then we put them on reservations. Comanches killed everyone except young boys and sex women slaves. They were PIRATES of the prairies , never farmed, never made camps , just raided from place to place.

I always found it Ironic that 1776 was not only when the USA declared independence and fought a war with Britan but was also the year the Lakota conquered the Black Hills from the Cheyenne confederation which also was the Year my Ojibwe ancestors were mopping up after conquering the Lakota lands in Minnesota.

Here is an example of your logic: Some Jews in Nazi Germany betrayed other Jews, which resulted in their being exterminated in concentration camps. What happen to the Jews is OK because not all Jews were honorable." What happened to the Sioux is not "OK" because of what the Sioux did a hundred years earlier.

Still doesn’t change the fact that America is a nation founded by illegal immigrants

Mine belongs to my county. I pay taxes and they let me live on it.

Or belonged to animals... Or that this statement is not really universal, just common.

Get the hell off my land 😤

The conquered never see it that way though. It is their lot to moan and cry about what happened to them, but they will never shed a tear for what they did to others!

@stevet5379 become drunks on reservations

It's actually rather surprising how well-read and eloquent Americans were in the 1800s. And they had a way with words which is lost today. Interestingly enough, up to the American civil war, the literacy rate of America was extremely high. About 9/10 soldiers on both sides, the Union and Confederacy, were literate. And as we see from their surviving letters during the war - of which there's many - they were quite well versed in writing. Even a letter to back to their family sounds fancy. Now after the war... literacy just fell off a cliff. It dropped down to 20% in some areas, IIRC. And it didn't really recover until the 1920s or so.

Actually what you are demonstrating is you know FA about how educated people (like military officers) spoke in the 19th Century. There have been a significant decline in the vocabulary of the average American since the 1960's.

@@matchesburn I've never heard this before. So American literacy went up in the early 1800's, but fell off later, before coming back up in the 1900's? Did literacy become much more important in the early 1800's then, due to increased accessibility of books and such, but then it became so widespread without seeming to bring much in return that it just became less important for a while, being seeing more as a fad than a vital skill? Does it have something to do with the South not having as much money after the Civil War?

@@iconian1387 It was very much a cultural thing left over from the age of enlightenment and the founding of America. Reading/writing was considered essential in order to be successful and not applying to learn to do so was viewed as uncouth and backwards. You didn't want to be *_that guy_* that couldn't read and write. And, at the time, the best way to court women was to write them letters... so... that was a big motivator for men of the time. As for why it fell off after the American civil war, it's not like people came to dislike literacy... It's that the nation was in shambles. Not for years. Decades. Entire swathes of the generation were cut up... sometimes literally... and just dead. Economically the country was devastated. Socially/culturally, there was just as much if not more turmoil. Significant portions of an entire generation were left in the cemeteries. Some states, especially in the south, were literally burned down almost to every single major town or city. The infrastructure was gone. At the time, there were more pressing concerns and little availability to teach literacy. And it did take the better part of a generation or two for the country to rebuild and find its footing. People have no idea *_just how devastating_* the American civil war was and how much it set the country back. We lost basically 50 years of progress in stagnation.

@@matchesburn You're right, I've never heard that the Civil War was that devastating. Do you know of any books or videos about it? I knew the South was devastated, but I guess the North was as well. I suppose that World Wars I and II probably weren't quite as bad for America, but I have heard that World War I in particular was devastating to Europe

Yep.

One thing you miss: those of us who give, out of the abundance of our heart and wallet. Few of those who are like that but God sees all.

@@edharley7254, The original commenter uses a secular model, not a Biblical one.

Most of not all civilizations and armies have taken anything over the course of history by the 'right of conquest'.

Well said.

"You don't like the guns we gave you? Ok, well you can hand them back in then. Along with all the horses too. Have a nice day."

Apparently, Whitey believes in a fair fight.

This is relatable, even to slavery. "Who sold the slaves, African tribesmen!" "Who bought the slaves, European traders!"

@@thecleaner8442 Whitey? What racism. It’s not about a fair fight, it’s about how all races have a history of conquest, even the Natives.

@@BruceWayne-fj9bm No. It is about a fair fight. You sensitive dumbass.

Exactly. Everyone has been conquered at one point or another and everyone has been the conquerer. There is no human lineage with clean hands.

"B-b-b-but... MY people were the last ones to be conquered... Therefore we never got the chance for revenge and that means we deserve special treatment..."

@@jacobhargiss3839 If beeing a merciless douchbag with no empathy, capable of exterminating the tribe from the next valley, just because you had a bad harvest this year, meant no evulationary advantage, this kind of people would have gone extinct long time ago, and we would be a much more peacefull spicies by now...... But we are not........

Who claims it isn't?

@@JamesMorgan-ne8qu The American public education system.

Now THAT is LEGENDARY!❤❤

K Boomer

@@kbanghartboomers are smart

I have not met many younger people (

​@@nappa4317not to mention many of the native American tribes practiced cannibalism

@@shiniquajones2812 hmmm is that so.....

That is the true noble view of history and the present should be used to unite for the best future possible.

Many tribes have different stories and your grandfather is one of them. Like before every native american have a different stories. Before Europeans. Humans already had different beliefs and culture. Native american aren't one tribe. There's many of them. Just like Europe, Asia, Africa, and the middle east. Europeans like the Anglo-Saxon was the turning point to the native americans. Like the many broken peace treaty around 500 and the genocide of the school boarding happened. Til around the 90s they could finally speak their own languages. Not a good look.

@@erenjaeger1738 you seem to have no point. Using the term genocide is purely performative and inaccurate.

@@lassmt your sub iq and liberal got you think genocide only applies to Europe. NO. When I said genocide happened. It happened. Like really ? Not even the spanish were up front making act saying "kill the indians, save the man"

@@erenjaeger1738the Canadian government just spent 8 million dollars digging and using sound imaging to look for the supposed mass graves at Indian schools and found NOTHING. In the meantime 33 Catholic Churches were burned to the ground by stoked up corporate media worshipping sheep like you. As long as the little brains keep falling for the Divide and Conquer agenda we will forever be at the mercy of ancient banking families who own our media and governments. They are the TRUE enemies of the human race.

Relatable and factual.

You get this all the time if you're a White dude in South Texas. Too relatable.

@@blehblehk5955 The irony is that their great-grandmothers bred with Spanish men.

Those from spanish decent or at about 30% at most. Just as today, what you call Mexican is mostly Native American

​@@quaoar213simply not true the native blood lines are almost gone as sad as it is

Really???? It's screams "TV movie" acting to me.

​@THEJAM-EATERS exactly way better acting than what we get nowadays

​@@curlyfries8388 The actor for Miles could still improve in yelling, but he does very well when showing emotions.

@@curlyfries8388 You Americans need to raise your bar.

@@THEJAM-EATERS Compared to Eurotrash who are sucking off their conquerors in their films/TV? =p

Except for the fact that tribe doesn't fight and k*ll tribe anymore. They have real medicine for their sick, rather than a wrinkly old man with an animal scrotum filled with magic sand. And let's not forget all the US government's hand outs to sustain

Yep. There is not moral high ground. Not one country, culture, ethnic group etc. is currently occupying their original homeland. We all took it from someone else with blood

The scene literally shows that humans don't behave the same. The Indians were pure emotion, void of all reason, couldn't back up their claims, and got violent because of words. Typical of lesser civilizations. No wonder they lost.

Too many lies become accepted as fact and public schools are to blame. Sad that some people still believe that smallpox blankets were used as a biological weapon more than a century before Louis Pasteur would develop germ theory.

​@@smokingcrab2290thank u... beautiful statement man. Research the solutreans the real natives the first Americans the European tribes that were geonicided by the so called natives. (Due to inferior numbers)

And a Canadian adaptation of a lackluster heavily biased book.

Very surprising that it was made at any point after 1970.

Only a moron compares tribal warfare to a straight up genocide.Nine Years war (Ireland) 130,000 deaths Thirty Year War (Germany) 8,000,000 deaths English Civil War 84,000 dead from war 127,000 civilian deaths. Franco Spanish War 108,000 deaths Franco Dutch war 342,000 deaths. Napoleonic Wars 6,500,000 deaths but you wanna scream "Oogah boogay you killed each other!" Like that has a fucking thing to do with why you disease ridden pox carriers did what you did. You did it for gold. Stop lying. You're not benevolent colonizers. It's one thing to do it it's another thing to lie and i know the "Victor writes the history" But it;s my choice to not believe your lies because that's all Wyatt E does is lie. Your ashekenazi handlers taught you well.

Only a moron thinks he got "Wrecked" that's you talking out of your pink head. You don't decide what is and what isn't. You're some random cracker on the internet who would be scared to say this irl.

Indians are from India. Read a map, you remedial dropout

Jaines.

There were, but they were taken out by more aggressive neighbors long ago.

True, at least not 'entirely' peaceful. The capability for violence exists in every human. It simply takes more to bring out that violence in some, than it does in others. Violence itself, is neither good or bad ... only motives make it so. Killing is considered bad - killing in self defense is not. Since there is strength in numbers, within each group you mentioned are both more 'peaceful' - and less 'peaceful' members. All things being equal, the proportions determine the identity of the group. All things not being equal, the leader determines the identity. Numbers not withstanding, the group that's better at committing violence will always overpower the other ... even if that group is the one with the more 'peaceful' identity.

@@dreadcthulhu5then his point still stands

@@epgamer1145 No, because he said there never were any. There were until they got wiped out by others. That is not the same thing. But then thinking about it not ALL were wiped out. Some were captured and sold. Those are the two possible fates for those who are too peaceful for their own good.

@Prkau telek by growing up

@Prkau telek the "no less noble" is the important part there, but go on hating one race for what all humanity has partaken in.

@Prkau telek Both practices employed by first nation peoples.

@Prkau telek en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_slave_ownership Read it and weep or remain ignorant, don't really care.

@Prkau telek Native Americans did slavery too. Nice deflecting historical facts .

More like a heavy machine gun...

@@haroldsmith8454 More like a gatling gun

@@thejohhny2943 BRRRRRRT from the GAU on an A10.

Self-serving bullshit

Don’t be crying like a little baby 😢when the minority in the USA become the majority it’s just a matter of a another decade and building a southern wall isn’t going to save you 😉

What does crux mean?

@@bonquequedickison4080 'Crux' means the central theme, or rather, the entire point of the conversation.

Damn I was going to watch it because this was so good. 😢figures. 😂

Its truth!

@@rollotomasislawyer3405 It’s a good movie that’s worth watching.

Legit, everyone says the American government was in full wrong, they were in some places but the natives were hypocritical as fuck

@@GeneralHarvey in what ways were they hypocritical?

You mean "Springfield Trapdoor". I agree, this was a great movie, I first saw it 2010.

This! The "funny" part with battles like the Little Big Horn was that the US Cavalry was completely outgunned.

Those are Trapdoor Springfields, Spencer's were tube loading repeaters.

Really repeaters were more trouble than they were worth. There's a reason the mainstay of the US arm was simple bolt actions for a century and kept using tried and true springfields during the indian wars.

It did happen with a few as some had gold to bribe dealers and ex military people sold them the latest kits near the end of the indian wars

In other words, every other tribe knew these guys were sophistic assholes!

When Louis and Clark were on their trip to the west, they ran upon some indians that wouldn't come talk to them until they raised their shirt sleaves to show they were white. They were scared of another tribe.

@@robbyddurham1624 is that true?

@@josephohara2457 I read it in Undaunted Courage by Steven Ambrose. The book covered the complete Lewis and Clark trip. He researched it from notes of Lewis and Clark and maybe letters by the crew. I really enjoyed the book. He mentions a lot of contacts with native americans. The NorthWest indians were really nice to them. The Nez Priece. One story was about indians so hungry that they met in the plains, I think. When a deer had been killed by the crew, the indians were so hungry they picked up the intestines thatwere thrown aside and squeezed out the waste and ate them right away. They couldn't wait for food to be prepared.

Wherever you go on this world, people are people. For better or for worse.

My Sioux cousins HATE the Crow. Apparently there are stories all about Crow raids and atrocities that have been carried down to this day. It isn't surprising to learn that Americans and Europeans had very similar dynamics between their various societies, but from my understanding any given American was probably safer amongst their own tribe than average European was with say their neighbor generally.

He's an Army Officer and he has his Orders. The U.S. actually had a large amount of Indian sympathizers who opposed the brutal slaughter/takeover of Indian lands, and had various beliefs in how much more stake the Indians deserved in their lands as Americans colonized it.

clearly they weernt vocal enough.@@Wasserkaktus

@@bladerj How could they be? When you have a country that loved/loves manifest destiny as much as America did and does, how could their voices ever be loud enough?

Many whites believed in manifest destiny, in fact it was literally a government proclamation

@@cccspwn And the fact that they still do is a problem. Manifest Destiny should never have existed.

Dead funny, made me laugh out loud in my office. I'm going to try it out on my squaw, sorry, wife.

So do I bro, so do i😂

I, too, am known to indulge in random recitations of movie and TV show quotes at inappropriate times. Gotta let some of the crazy out every now and then. 😅

He was a CONSUL of ROME !!!

@@andrewg.carvill4596 poor Pompey!

Absolutely, started as a volunteer and and was a major general by 26, including becoming the commandant over the prison where Jefferson Davis was held. What a stud.

I'm actually afraid that some lefties will vandalise his resting place

​​@@martinjugolin2087Wrong. Iconoclasm is definitely a tactic some bleeding hearts use, but Miles was never a slaver and he was a bigger SYMPATHIZER of Natives when compared to most other Army Officers.

@@Wasserkaktus No the fuck he wasn't. Did you see what he did to Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce? If you can't tell real Native history shut your dick licker. General Lee had more respect for Natives than any Yankee general.

@@Wasserkaktus So you stil think there's a diufference between the left and right huh? There's not. they're both bought and paid for by Zionists. Trump and Biden both have mostly hand rubbers as their advisors IE their HANDLERS

Then the Apache became friends to fight the Comanche. The Comanche were the hardest mf on the plains.

They were defeated, correct?

@@jonathanpauldavenport the Zulus? Yes

Because this was made before the world especially the West had a collective stroke...

​@@topfactlord5448......and became Woke.😊

Nah, in History, we teach this ALL THE TIME. The problem is the anti-intellectuals...

@@typetersen8809 It's the anti-woke whom infantilize the Natives as peaceful and spiritual. So many Lost Causers love to harp on about the mistreatment of the Indians by the Union.

Got swept under the rug instead

Sadly the Old White Guard mindset has not perished and is the defacto problem for the modern world, if your young its worse, racial diversity is one thing, but going beyond it overnight is impossible, you take it in steps,

This dialogue isn’t history. This is fantasy and colonial propaganda

@@sonjurattler Always has been, White League is bleaching everything now a days,

History plainly shows the European settlers' greed far eclipsed that of the Indian, despite it also existing

@@saskk2290 That is also true, the many tribes of the plains were never united from the start, let alone the fact that they were also at war or in open hostility with the south American Empires,

2022 Zionist Occupied Government: "let me explain..." Whites: "there's nothing to explain. You're trying to seize what I have rightfully stolen!"

@@jaybartgis5148 One was earned by blood sweat and tears. The other one was "Thanks for saving me from the last guys we stole shit from, now give us everything we demand or you're anti semitic". There is a pretty wide difference between having lost a fight, and regretting giving a beggar the chance to backstab us after we fought and bled for them. We respect warriors more than snakes. Hence why commies are so disgusting to the man of reason as well.

@@bluelick7578 doesn't mean anything. A lose is a lose and a win is a win. They won. We lost

except the white people didnt steal it.

lol the princess bride line. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Col. Nelson was a real person btw

@@RildarThe Miles in the clip is character based on the real person, but how much of the character reflects reality?

@@AngemonOfLight Idk and idc, it's a movie

@@Rildar It's a historical movie, so a degree of accuracy is expected.

@@wtfduud Ok. Don't know why you're replying when I said "idk and idc."

what argument did sitting bull even make

His God is better I don't know something retarded

@@romegypt5675 "These are our lands and you can't force us from them" was his argument, even if it wasn't his land to begin with.

More so the Americans really as we're dominated by a culture who automatically takes the side of the indians.

@@UncleSarge At the end of day the Native Americans got conquered. It wasn't pretty and wasn't ethical but it was how history went for a millennia. They (The Indians) conquered the people before them. The Americans were just the best at it.

I believe that's Shaun Johnston

We all kind of look like from that time because we're their descendants whose face has been passed on by our fathers for millennia. The only difference is our facial hair.

Good costume design.

Cause he’s a Canadian Anglo Celtic with some Dutch admixture.

Loved him in Heartland

Who did the original British displace? _No one._ Nor the Mauri, neither. New Zealand was empty when they took it.

Not the story of Mohenjo-Daro or Harappa. The Indus River Valley civilization was, by all accounts, the first to settle that region, until the Aryans came and wiped them out.

Know thy enemy

Nor did they coalesce out of the Aether.

It's true enough. They descended from Adam & Eve like everyone.

We also didn't come from Asia, Regurgitate your Christ cuck Zionist nonsense elsewhere

​@@gcHK47 They came out of the Minnesota woodlands, armed to the teeth and set upon their fellow man.

True, but the Treaty of 1868 giving the Black Hills to the Lakota Sioux, was broken by white prospectors and entrepreneurs who flooded into Sioux Territory and the Black Hills in 1875 and 1876 when gold was discovered there in 1874 by Custer and his Black Hills Expedition. If gold wasn't discovered in Deadwood gulch, there never would have been a Battle of The Little Bighorn, or the subsequent battles that saw the end of the free roaming Sioux and Northern Cheyenne.

We'll see how you behave once American workers get completely replaced by asian immigrants

In the modern day, there are many new and fascinating ways to be weak and powerful. Money, political power, espionage, corruption, collusion, subversion, propaganda, obedience, inclusion, acceptance... So many ways for people to let their guard down and be exploited... Conquest has never stopped evolving.

What about our Muslim brothers?

What about them?

@@Frombie_01 , sh1t, what about the Chinese once China opens the borders?

True words... just some of us are better at it. It's the resulting society that matters.

No you are just ignorant. Greece with Alexander the great used native chief children to rule his conquest succeeding to assimilate these people...from Greece to Himalaya. The military conquest was followed by an educational work including these native in order to instaure a peaceful administration. Nothing to do with american. Most of them were adventurers looking for money quickly. To rob and to kill is the shortest way to get rich...then you write your own national myth of democraty and so on...

@@Invictus_999 If that were true, it would be the warlords and despots in power. The lust for territory spelled the downfall of the USSR, and it'll spell the downfall of Russia next.

@@Invictus_999 Power and strength are two very separate concepts. "God created men, Colt made them equal..."

@@Invictus_999 It though means of power, not strength, that nations like Costa Rica, which does not possess a military, or Luxembourg, which as of 2022 only has 900 soldiers, continue to exist. We don't live entirely in a world of might make right anymore. It's not worth asserting strength and invading Luxembourg to gain wealth and land anymore.

Finally. Someone here who's talking sense.

Its simpler than that: the winners write the history books.

Here’s a really hard truth: land belongs to those who have the strength, will, and wisdom to defend it. History has winners and losers…

​@@cgavin1Not true. If this was the case, The Lost Cause would have never existed.

@@acidz0037 What Wass said.

Tbch both are idiots.

There was never fact behind the US side when it came to natives. They painted every narrative they wanted to find reasons to commit genocide. To this day we still get pushed around and y’all dipshits want to say it’s because we were savages. The real savages are the people that pushed us out of our homes, relocated us and used our lands for slavery. We got painted as the bad guys because we were brown and had land they wanted. That’s the fact. Not some bullshit about us constantly fighting each other, that was because white guy pisses off a native tribe and promises land back to another if they help defend the white guy. Then they don’t do it and rinse and repeat until they’re all too weak or just dead. That’s what white history won’t tell you.

White washed evil genocidal version of a story yeah

@@mikeynorcross3222 Native americans also genocide other tribes.

@@Rameon No we already know. We learned it in class or we figure it out. 🤷‍♀️ I still love America though.

"Justice is the advantage of the stronger." - Thrasymachus

The Athenians were ruthless in that account. Honestly chilling to read.

Thucydides

Exactly, I could never argue that what settlers did in this time period was morally right, but to pretend it was any different from what native tribes were already doing to each other for thousands of years is ridiculous.

@@DaltonFTT Everyone has evil inside of them. Some are just in stronger positions to bring it out into the rest of the world. Thank God for Jesus.

This isn't true: American Indians will always tell you about what tribes were their traditional allies, and which were their enemies. Here in Arizona for example, the Akimel O'odham (Pima) are very closely knit with the Maricopa Indians while being unfriendly to the Tohono O'odham (Papago), even though they are in fact the more like the two subdivisions of the O'odham overall, and the Navajo are big historical rivals to the Hopi, as both groups are very different from one another. I didn't even mention all of the other American Indians native to Arizona too (like the Apache, Havasupai, Mojave, Cocopah, Quechan, etc...)

@@Wasserkaktus What isn't true?

Ever see Outlaw Josie Wales His meeting with Ten Bears

meh, the coversation between King Baldwin and Saladin in Kingdom of Heaven is leagues better in my opinion. Tho this one isn't without its merits.

​@@TheBarber5550Oooh I love that scene ❤

Certainly. People often forget that when you're representing a group, you may have certain opinions about things. But as the "king", your opinion isn't really what matters. You have an obligation to do what your people want. He was leading a warband, a group that would rather die than surrender. So it really didn't matter if he saw any reason to what the Colonel was saying or not, his people wanted a fight, so that's what he decided. And of course the Colonel was sent there to put an end to the raids on settlers. As someone appointed to that position to protect his countrymen, even if he would have preferred a peaceful agreement, and even if he was against the Westward expansion, it didn't matter. He had a duty to fulfill, and he did so.

@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo I like it. The Black Hills were only recently conquered by the Lakota/Sioux, who were forced into that region by the "white man", similar to the conquest of Anatolia by the Turks who were drivin out by Mongols. He who is stronger takes.

@@joshbedford4889 Well and even then, the Sioux weren't forced to move by the white man, they were forced out by the Chippewa and other tribes like he mentions. The Sioux were notorious for raiding other tribes after they banded together, similar to the Cherokee. So the other tribes bought and traded for weapons to get their revenge by taking Sioux lands.

No they weren't. Sitting Bull and his people stole those lands from other tribes as spoils of war. He just couldn't accept the fact that the same thing was happening to him.

Fucking awesome ^^

SJWs and Liberals will say: "Well OUR TRUTH says...."🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Not really . Farce.

lol the whole western movie industry is just amusement park carp. “No legends” 😂😂😂😂 go play with your broom stick horse

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no. this is pure myth. 660 treaties, 500 broken, is not conquest and not the same as the "sioux" migrating into south dakota to evade white people diseases in the 1500s

I've made this point over and over. Native Americans were slaughtering, raping, enslaving other tribes before the Vikings arrived in North America.

There is nothing admirable of the American conquest of North America. It's admirable qualities today are not a result of it's continental war

Truth huh? Or is it more aligned to the truth you want.

Truth is....as portrayed. Inconvenient?@@steveatwater4364

@@steveatwater4364 I'm betting it is simply not in agreement with the story you choose to tell.

@@tomasmccauley569 Actually they DID have it 'returned to them'. The land where the battle was fought is on the Crow Reservation.

@@tomasmccauley569 The Crow have always been friends to the U.S.

colonazi 'divide and conquer'

@@sandycarlak3027 Can confirm, I have driven through it many times.

the Arikaras too.

And look what happened, forced assimilation. Paper genocide.

@@Nativestyles Penjeda.

@@brittanyhayes1043 no mames😂

Doesn't change the fact the white man's greed left no room for others

@@saskk2290 skull issue

So was August Schellenberg.

and probably inaccurate dialogue

Dude, its from 2007. It's not some begone era lost to time. Its the same age as Facebook, so would we speak to someone who first saw Facebook come out as if they are some venerable elder of forgotten wisdom?

do you remember whether this scene (or something similar) is in the book?

@@CassiusDX I can't recall -sorry - and I didn't watch the film because so many important books have been butchered by film - I was 14 or 15 when I read it and that was fifty years ago - I think I might search out another copy and re -read it after watching your clip - I'm surprised you haven't read it - it's one of those milestone book's - Gerry Docherty's book Hidden History is another -

@@StellaAsh what's the name of the book?

@@tylerdurden4080 bruv

@@tylerdurden4080 Bury My Knee at Wounded Heart

I don’t know if I’d say they were arguing who’s right and wrong. Sitting Bull was trying to hide behind their own traditional beliefs as justification. Colonel Miles simply said “we’re just doing to you as you have done to your neighbors” and Sitting Bill didn’t like hearing it.

@@Gillymonster18 I get what you mean, but in the end it was still a debate over who's right and who's wrong. The Tribal chief was arguing they were the 'rightful' owners of the land. While the colonel's argument was that the 'rightful' owner is the one who can claim it and hold it, which is exactly what Sitting Bull's ancestors did. The Chieftain just didn't want to face the fact his people were not the saints they pretended to be, and so the colonel was correct.

Exactly. They were not peaceful peoples.

Yes. The message is whoever can kill everybody else is the winner

You sir know the zeitgeist and I'm relieved to see you as a first comment via mobile. Props from Qc.

Indeed. Humanity has been butchering each other for hundreds of thousands of years. It makes land claims a wee bit murky.

It helps to read more. They were living in peace abiding by the treaty signed by Conquering Bear in 1851 and in 1854 the US Army shot Conquering Bear in the back, killing him, starting the First Sioux War.

Isn't fighting for the future of your people kind of virtuous? That's the ultimate lesson in human history. There are no bad guys. Only people who think they are making the world a better place.

@@IamaCosmonautexactly no war has been purely evil German soldiers were fighting for their country and for freedom and to in their opinion save humanity, American and allied soldiers were told they were fighting for freedom and democracy, the Taliban were fighting for their people and religion against a foreign oppressive occupation and American soldiers were fighting “terrorism”

One side was more virtuous than others. Escaping britain to live a better life and one side wants to protect its title. The good natives were blessings but they weren't the ones instigating.

Losers just get the "moral high ground" of a victim as a solace.

@@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 >le Germany good lmao

There was someone else further up in the comments who said they were related to Miles through their grandmother. you guys are like distant cousins.

We’re all distant cousins really. Whether you believe in Adam and Eve or in some form of evolution we’re still all the descendants of some male and female human or human-like beings all those years ago. The family tree of man is a bush. So are those of every animal on earth.

That's the most tragic part.

Surprised the woke people in Hollywood didn't demand this scene be cut.

@@sandycarlak3027 keep it alive! Don’t let them censor it! They will try to censor truth!

There a person claiming to be Native American coming around and screaming "White Supremacy is still going on" bs.

@@sandycarlak3027 I'm sure this scene wouldn't exist if the movie came out nowadays

Funny how one punch and you'd be crying like the little pussy bitch you are

don't be a snowflake yourself bro

​@@idcaf I was finna say

But I bet you feel victim of those evil, good for nothing migrants, right?

buddy, if a foreign army showed up and took your home and you had to go live in a camp, you bet you'd be crying about it. Civilian death tolls: pearl harbor 2k dead > nagaskaki & hiroshima 150k dead. 9/11 2.9k dead > iraq and afhganistan 0.5 million dead. America the expert in playing victim.

I listen to it anytime I have a hard conversation up ahead of me. Note how Miles doesn't get distracted by counteraccusations and misdirection. He doesn't defend his or anyone else's actions. He just keeps spitting facts. That is the way to make your point. Don't get defensive; stay on point. Make the other guy lose his cool first.

@@soldat2501 very good points!

It's a very specific vibe he gives off that grabs you attention and never lets go.

I wonder why we didn't hear more from this guy

Lately he's been in the show heartland for over 14 seasons and still going​@@johnnyskinwalker4095

And slavery is still rife in Libya

I believe it applies to all of humanity no matter where they are from.

White Man is simply the stronger tribe.

Luzur white people were Champs at deceiving...

@@SwedishEmpire1700 True.