Bus Mastering Like A Pro pt 2

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Official AHEE

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3 жыл бұрын

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In today's Ableton tutorial I'm showing y'all my bus mastering process on 3 different songs:
AHEE - Dungeon Master OUT NOW on Subtronic's Cyclops Recordings: outnow.io/t/spliceops
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@tyeblee23
@tyeblee23 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your tutorials my man I learn so much. Thank you and I hope all is well. ❤️
@SonicDephect
@SonicDephect 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for coming back to these a few times, I have watched them all and this is the first I’ve fully understood.
@AFL117
@AFL117 3 жыл бұрын
Ahee, man. This shit is crazy. I'm super happy I happened across your tutorials through your colab with Stranjah. This bus mixing/mastering is next level. I didn't full understand it until this video but I routed my newest track in a similar way and man what a difference it makes in loudness. This and the mid/side cut then boost trick you mentioned in another video are my new go to secret sauce techniques. I notice you have a Gumroad. Next chance I get I'm snatching up some Magic Racks!!
@mattygalaxy
@mattygalaxy 3 жыл бұрын
Was about to say the same thing lol. I didnt fully grasp bus mixing until these last couple tutorials man great explantions. I just tried these things on a mix and its sounding so much better
@bY_n0ne
@bY_n0ne Жыл бұрын
Youre the man! the amount of content you put out is incredible! Thanks Ahee for the content and all the bangers!
@projektexp5830
@projektexp5830 3 жыл бұрын
well done my friend. Your points are all very well spoken and used in this. I really like how your obv audioi engineering inclined from Pre digital Yet have discovered a great way of making LOUD music. And also clarified many things from fro me personally. And i have been producing from over a decade !!! Keep it up AHEEE ( lastly your tracks are sounding doper then ever!!!)
@sweetboiofficial3712
@sweetboiofficial3712 3 жыл бұрын
Been following your routing approach for roughly a year now -- Seeing these examples definitely cleared up a lot of things that I was second guessing. Super thankful for this one!
@jon0830
@jon0830 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the inside look, It's been very helpful. been applying this concept with clippers/compressors instead of L2 for brickwalling peaks and creating that push pull of the layers
@SlayerDarkRaver
@SlayerDarkRaver 9 ай бұрын
Getting your head around this and finding your own way to this, essential for loud music! I use more hardclipping than limiting on my tracks, but limiting has its place ❤
@vuul6093
@vuul6093 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great, I’ve been using this method you showed since the first vid and this video visually helps me understand what I’ve been doing
@breaksjunkie100
@breaksjunkie100 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one mate, Been using your templates for a while now, The last video and this follow up, Have explained quite a few bits what I was wondering about.....Great work dude thank you
@superdoggy08
@superdoggy08 3 жыл бұрын
You are amazing man... You have made me so much better at mastering and mixing
@paulrevereIV
@paulrevereIV 3 жыл бұрын
"It's the opposite of homework" lol.... Bought your templates about a year ago and they have completely changed the way I compose for the better. Even if I smoked too many joints the night before, having my songs come through a consistent set of limiters and checking the curve on span has created exponentially more happy accidents and exponentially less sad mornings where the track didn't sound how I thought it did. Much love AHEE!!!
@yuhyuhtheindigo7085
@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, Dungeon Master is a masterpiece. Great work!
@Guntherthefool
@Guntherthefool 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight 🔥
@aaronanderson8769
@aaronanderson8769 3 жыл бұрын
Dungeon master is sick man, happy to heaven heard of you. Good job working with subtronics, big shoes to fill
@chrisaurelius007
@chrisaurelius007 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial. Keep' em coming!
@ssuperfour
@ssuperfour 10 ай бұрын
Wow at ~ 12:30 you articulated something for me so well between the approaches to producing The more dynamic, and balanced style where you start quiet and master later, vs the brash, loud style where you produce at the final loudness
@CasualChrisMusic
@CasualChrisMusic 3 жыл бұрын
great follow up tutorial you definitely answered all of the questions I had
@boymatmat
@boymatmat 3 жыл бұрын
I like the latest track the most, I really like that fast moving groovie drum n bass feel
@vaizman770
@vaizman770 3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right! Saturation, clipper, limiter. Let them work just a little bit for different groups of elements. Find the balance in between to achieve the sound that you want. Exactly!
@MastaDzu
@MastaDzu 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing track bro, thank you for video
@rumbledrumskin4654
@rumbledrumskin4654 Жыл бұрын
Love ya work legend, Flawless victory whooooopsssiiii
@rockysobekbeats
@rockysobekbeats 3 жыл бұрын
Gold Ahee 🔥
@genericname2284
@genericname2284 10 ай бұрын
Every single minute you blew my mind
@thegoldenscript
@thegoldenscript 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another educating video.
@Rivalofficial
@Rivalofficial 2 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to see a loudness meter as well! :)
@clockstrikingthirteen
@clockstrikingthirteen 10 ай бұрын
these 2 videos actually changed my life dude hahahhahahaha i am so excited
@MikeMaz1022
@MikeMaz1022 3 жыл бұрын
Solid!!!
@d3dt3kplays97
@d3dt3kplays97 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@seanhochman
@seanhochman 3 жыл бұрын
massively informative
@sokoleski
@sokoleski 3 жыл бұрын
Using engineering in an artistic manner.... WORD!
@thesleepportal5974
@thesleepportal5974 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I would try and turning of the true peak limiting on some of the groups to make it even more punchy
@DoctorJRx
@DoctorJRx 3 жыл бұрын
i'm getting the template to learn this this with a more indepth look !!
@Slavestep
@Slavestep 3 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate these so much man and thanks for the shoutout
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
Loved remixing your tune!
@boymatmat
@boymatmat 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tracks
@droach3151
@droach3151 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on being a winning winner at making it on the Splice-Ops EP
@kljenson43
@kljenson43 Жыл бұрын
wow dude, I just found out about limiting the master for perceived loudness and I just through a sausage fattener at 1% the end of my master chain lol I can't wait to try this.
@JoelHernandez-vs1kn
@JoelHernandez-vs1kn 2 жыл бұрын
thnks!
@Inflightmuzik
@Inflightmuzik 3 жыл бұрын
bro...I was just shopping for jackets and I almost bought the one you're wearing on your cover art. This was literally an hour ago before watching this video lol.
@MastaDzu
@MastaDzu 2 жыл бұрын
dude! this is a mega release! thanks for sharing! tell me you recorded the stream where do you do the mastering in real time? I would be very interested to see how you act bro!
@ghilliesuitman21
@ghilliesuitman21 3 жыл бұрын
That bass melody sounds like the tune from futurama when nibbler lost his space ship and his buddy is going around planets playing this little melody that like destroys planets but all he was looking for was the work ship 😂😂🤦‍♀️
@lahvasound
@lahvasound 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, thanks! Question though: u do not have oversampling enabled, can you explain why not? And thanks so much for the research on this bus limiter method in earlier videos, it improved my workflow a lot.
@flyoverfredusa
@flyoverfredusa 3 жыл бұрын
great video, only extra I could add is to use oversampling on the L2..........
@jojomarino3767
@jojomarino3767 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, just wanted to say thanks so much! I really appreciate all your knowledge, I am finally making progress with my mix downs :)... Just wondering, where did you get your hands on the "vocal transparent MTK" pro L 2 preset that you were saying skillex uses?
@alexanderrogers6105
@alexanderrogers6105 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a mixing and mastering video on a dubstep or riddim track with layered basses and hi pitched sustains.
@maxvilchik5576
@maxvilchik5576 2 жыл бұрын
this was awesome thank you so much!!! what do you do with return tracks? do you send to premaster or master?
@orbathealien8868
@orbathealien8868 3 жыл бұрын
That first track is so badass. I like them all but that was just sick lol. (I got into EDM through dubstep/brostep/hardstyle so I have a soft spot for those genres.) This was an interesting video to see, wa tray ching you go through it this time kind of clicked how limiting really effects the sound, even though it's minimal it really makes sense to tighten it up in that way. I've definitely gotten better the more I hear your tutorials, I'm starting to realize it's less about the numbers and more about the groove. I just need to keep at it and not lose hope. Your music is very cool, very inspirational, as is your mental attitude. Thanks for the upload!
@ColderAim
@ColderAim 2 жыл бұрын
hey AHEE! what are your thoughts on producing like this? like actually having this setup as a template and working with it from the start? or does it work better to save it till the end for the mixing/mastering stage?
@SkorpionDnB
@SkorpionDnB 3 жыл бұрын
Make an update to this video showing new tips and tricks with new songs you've released recently please :D
@KysuneRSA
@KysuneRSA Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the CTZ technique of using softclippers and not limiters ?
@HowardCharlesUK
@HowardCharlesUK 3 жыл бұрын
That vital bass at 5:22 is the coolest sound design I've heard in a long time
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
Made out of using bug sounds as a Wavetable in Vital! 👽🙏
@thomas_rellum
@thomas_rellum 3 жыл бұрын
What about dynamic at the end? The second is very original, love it
@3-2split
@3-2split 3 жыл бұрын
I Have a VU Meter on my master channel and the low end is making it clip, just wondering how to keep the low end at 30 when it comes to the span vst but not clip on the master channel when it comes to the vu meter. As of right now my entire track is at 12 dbs but its clipping and theres no effects on the master channel
@samson4272
@samson4272 Жыл бұрын
At what level do you adjust volumes of individual tracks in the mix? Individual channels or busses? I’m grasping all you shared, but not clear on setting volume levels. Thank you!
@wav.slav.6313
@wav.slav.6313 3 жыл бұрын
So your phat rack clipper is raising the perceived loudness before limiting ?
@davidpedroso2160
@davidpedroso2160 3 жыл бұрын
Where are the volumes being set here? What would you turn down to set the sub level between-24 to -30db? Is it the bus? Is the sub driving into the limiter louder by turning up the source like serum?
@TacticsUnseen
@TacticsUnseen 2 жыл бұрын
So if ur boosting some tracks then leaving some left alone by not limiting it then couldn’t that mess w ur gain stage?
@lancemezh6345
@lancemezh6345 Жыл бұрын
Hey AHEE!! I’m a little late but to confirm are you driving these multitracks into the bus limiters or are you setting the balance and then putting that limiter on? Thx much love
@dylanmelella5663
@dylanmelella5663 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I might have missed this one of the videos but what is the purpose of the Premaster bus?
@joeygproducedit7863
@joeygproducedit7863 9 ай бұрын
💛
@machinemademan
@machinemademan Ай бұрын
i have a question after using this for a lot of projects...now that im finally figuring out the balance of sending hot signals everywhere..sends seem to really impact things more than they used to and i find myself not even using them bceause of how much they can impact the end result compared to effects that also ride through the buses. if i set them to out to the premaster ior chain group instead of master its a whole lot better..is that the answer? or am i just doing something wrong which is more likely
@cabbelvancabbel
@cabbelvancabbel 3 жыл бұрын
When you go so hard in the limiters and Limit everything youll end up at 0Db in the end right? But what about when youre sending it out for Mastering dont they need a few db Headroom? Great Video btw 😊
@famousbearer5132
@famousbearer5132 3 жыл бұрын
Legit need someone to answer this🙏🏻
@evanwickstrom7990
@evanwickstrom7990 2 ай бұрын
anyone know why can't I find that vocal preset in my pro L 2
@MastaDzu
@MastaDzu 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro! what computer do you mix and master your tracks?
@NATmusic27
@NATmusic27 2 жыл бұрын
When i put the Pro L 2 on my busses it causes everything to go out of sync... a latency problem i guess? I Ableton Live, what's up with that? I'm not sure but happens especially if i don't match the "mode" settings in all the limiters :/
@Shadow-eq3zj
@Shadow-eq3zj 3 жыл бұрын
anyone got a logic template for loudness ?
@PrideGamingTV
@PrideGamingTV Жыл бұрын
do you use anything to sidechain or are you using this limiter technique to sidechain?
@mesdeep_official
@mesdeep_official Жыл бұрын
Is it okay to just use the stock ableton limiter here?
@evanwickstrom7990
@evanwickstrom7990 2 ай бұрын
anyone know where to find this Vocal - Transparent MTK EDIT
@as_ismusic
@as_ismusic 3 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing stuff again AHEE! Question: For bus limiting, how do you set your attack and release times on the limiter? I saw some different times depending on the sounds that were being affected by the limiter. Thank you for your relentless passion for education :)
@entity9588
@entity9588 3 жыл бұрын
On the first track he had every single limiter at default settings for Fabfilter Pro L2... Prol L2 has a lot going on under the hood and definitely has its own sound. If you're looking to replicate it with another plugin you'll probably have a very hard time tbh. Especially if you don't know the sound of Pro L 2
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t pay attention to that for the limiters, I usually just use the default settings like %90 of the time. Sometimes I’ll go thru presets and “feel” for a Vibe.
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 9 ай бұрын
I come from the wacky world of DNB, and many artists set Pro-L with a tiny bit of lookahead, max attack and minimum release. Icicle uses that setting and so do Joe Ford and Emperor.
@fallingelevator
@fallingelevator 3 жыл бұрын
im a tad confused about what is on the FX channel. Am I missing something? Thanks!
@wintourmusic
@wintourmusic 2 жыл бұрын
hey man, interested about the sub sitting at 30 - 27. What is your slope set to inside of voxengo span? I think that will shift the numbers for those looking to reproduce it.
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 9 ай бұрын
I like using Span with a -4 slope to get all frequencies topping off in a relatively straight line
@JeydetaJosen
@JeydetaJosen 10 ай бұрын
I dont have the Vocals Transparent (MTK Edit) Preset, only Vocals Natural limiting? And did I understood you right? I want to put this Preset on all Limiters?
@westofwiley6723
@westofwiley6723 2 жыл бұрын
Would it make sense to set all limiters before the pre-master to a -6db ceiling, so they all stop there, and then boost all of them up to 0db with the premaster limiter?
@dillonbuffi6694
@dillonbuffi6694 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a valid way to go about it. You would theoretically achieve the same amplitude at that part of the signal chain. Unless of course anything on the premaster limiter is chained or triggered by elements in the bus processing, which may lead to different gain staging. Experiment and let us know whatcha find out!
@lxvesick2267
@lxvesick2267 3 жыл бұрын
what group is the sub in here?
@nucavani
@nucavani Жыл бұрын
Can you make a template for flstudio?
@liqwiidOfficial
@liqwiidOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
My problem is that my main bass, Doesn’t ever really sound like a Main Bass Lol, Somehow it gets muddy, Idk if it’s my Sub, I route it just like this and Somehow it doesn’t sound how I hear everyone else’s Music including yours where it sounds like the Bass is just in your Face!
@stashardy6612
@stashardy6612 3 жыл бұрын
hi bro what about LUFS?)
@TheArrenan
@TheArrenan 3 жыл бұрын
do you put the limiter at the end of the chain? on everything? sorry, so confused about abletons layout lol :D thanks for the vids
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
Have u seen the first vid? Has charts that might help visualize things for ya :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMp_eraZmLjRkZ8.html
@TheArrenan
@TheArrenan 3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialAHEE already watched that one before but after having rewatched it now,, it all makes more sense i think :) thanks for helping out
@MikeMaz1022
@MikeMaz1022 3 жыл бұрын
Do u do side chain compression per channel or do i do it through a return bud?
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
Per channel, and sometimes not at all!!! Here’s my sidechain tut if u wanna dive in on my personal take on it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9CJn7tyz63GiYE.html
@SkorpionDnB
@SkorpionDnB 3 жыл бұрын
Ahee, so you don't follow conventional protocol of mixing down to -6dB and then mastering? You are essentially mixing while writing the track and then mastering through busses and then finally master channel? or do i misunderstand? Also, why is master at -4.2 on the clozee track, and what LUFS do you target on your final master limiter for sending tracks to labels? I have been targeting 3-5 LUFS to compete with the loudness i hear on soundcloud, but sometimes my song still sounds distorted even when using your template for PRO-L2 and these bus mastering techniques - I wonder what i'm missing, Any tips? Thanks
@famousbearer5132
@famousbearer5132 3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@kidnun804
@kidnun804 3 жыл бұрын
Sick video! How do you feel about guys like Kompany or VR, letting their drops clip like crazy, with no limiters? For example check Stomp by Kompany. This shit is clipping at +14dbs! And it sounds so fire man, I mean it makes a real difference when you come up mixing that track on a live set 🔥
@polygenic
@polygenic 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, if that's true, that's just ridiculous.
@kidnun804
@kidnun804 3 жыл бұрын
@@polygenic ridiculous in a good way because it sounds great. It’s nicely done. Listen to the Kompany track 😉
@polygenic
@polygenic 3 жыл бұрын
@@kidnun804 Well I've just looked at the Kompany track, and it isn't clipping. But what I can tell you is that it is muddy as hell, especially in the 100-200Hz region. Plus there's been a lot of missed opportunities for extra headroom, like cutting above 20Khz and below 25-30Hz. There's perceived loudness, and then there's just slapping a limiter on and cranking up the gain.
@kidnun804
@kidnun804 3 жыл бұрын
@@polygenic idk how you got the track but I can tell snare transients hit +14dbs. Also check the live set I posted a few days ago, I put it before the last track of the set, for real it was really making a difference when this one came up. And I really like the dynamics too. Anyway it’s just tastes at this point, but all these guys from label Disciple or Never Day Die are really pushing boundaries on these subjects, and I don’t know how they sound so clean and dynamic. I’d love to hear Ahee’s pov on this 🤓
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen VRs tut where he clips and I’ve done this on a few of my own tracks. Skrillex’s other track did this too. From what I’ve seen, not everything is clipping only certain elements, other things are limited or clipped at lower volumes. It’s easy to mess a mix up this way, but can also be dope if done carefully.
@matthewnestor4369
@matthewnestor4369 3 жыл бұрын
so can i just mix as i go with these templates? sense its already mastered??? thanks for this!!!!
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, then just a double check at end of process for overall loudness.
@matthewnestor4369
@matthewnestor4369 3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialAHEE ok thank you i gottem a few days ago. also one question. do u perfer laying your drums in midi then change to audio or keep at midi or just do all audio? again thanks for videos and your time
@matthewnestor4369
@matthewnestor4369 3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialAHEE also how do u fix the latency with pro l2??
@vuul6093
@vuul6093 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you use the vocal preset in pro l like skrillex does
@joshmoreno9221
@joshmoreno9221 3 жыл бұрын
Might be a dumb question but here goes.. so would one strictly do this when mastering their own tracks?? Or is it fine to do all this before sending out tunes to be mastered?
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
Both!
@kianhendrick3794
@kianhendrick3794 3 жыл бұрын
it's about '(Loudness) Mastering and nothing about LUFS and True Peak values of each track ? Can you share them with us ? (big lack of that video). You should try Soothe 2 for all your harshy melodic parts ! :)
@benpeacock115
@benpeacock115 3 жыл бұрын
hes got other videos that go over that
@TRXST.ISSUES
@TRXST.ISSUES 4 ай бұрын
Curious why oversampling is off on all limiters 🤔 interesting
@mitchellwhite2408
@mitchellwhite2408 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf that -19db clip on the master limiter short circuited my brain 🤯
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
That’s good! Keep breaking it, that’s how new things are achieved!
@musiclearning2983
@musiclearning2983 3 жыл бұрын
When Ahee Magic racks Vol 4. now with ableton 11 pls
@OfficialAHEE
@OfficialAHEE 3 жыл бұрын
I actually had a super tripped out idea for the next Magic Rack series. Hopefully doesn’t cause CPU crash!
@musiclearning2983
@musiclearning2983 3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialAHEE Oh im excitedd sir!! when is releasing? haha
@kashifolan8682
@kashifolan8682 Жыл бұрын
from my limited understanding i thought before you sent a song off for mastering it had to be hitting a level of -6dB but seems like all your groups are busting way higher than that! am i wrong about the -6dB
@hankscorpio8928
@hankscorpio8928 11 күн бұрын
Where’s part 1
@MARKMAURIKS
@MARKMAURIKS 2 жыл бұрын
@ilCvlto
@ilCvlto 3 жыл бұрын
Nice rebranding but it’s just old bus compression
@Skrenja
@Skrenja 3 жыл бұрын
I want pro L2 really bad but $200 USD is way too much for a single plugin.
@skinz2820
@skinz2820 3 жыл бұрын
Learn the rules so you can break them
@Roses_R_redeR
@Roses_R_redeR 2 ай бұрын
I started breaking as I was learning... not the best plan of attack or method...💪🥀🤙 I'm real big on mixing bluegrass with this kind of stuff.... 🥀🥀🪕🎻🎚🎛🎹🥀🥀 🤘
@86crush
@86crush Жыл бұрын
if you're a music producer, you'll appreciate AHEE not bobbing his head to his own beats. For there is nothing more cringe. I applaud this man.
@ohmaramusic
@ohmaramusic Жыл бұрын
Should producers not enjoy their own music?
@86crush
@86crush Жыл бұрын
@@ohmaramusic no. they should not.
@AutoSanchezMusic
@AutoSanchezMusic Жыл бұрын
@@86crush Then what's the point of being a producer?
@86crush
@86crush Жыл бұрын
@@AutoSanchezMusic to buy plugins.
@naughtyducky6325
@naughtyducky6325 9 күн бұрын
If you don’t enjoy your own music u ain’t producing right lol
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