Still a quick release and therefore a bad comparison.

Without a doubt the most abnormal throwing motion in NFL history…

Rivers was overrated as hell

@@spindo5110 not really look at his stats top 10 in almost everything

@@isilveri1528 nah Rivers put up numbers but he wasn’t clutch I’ve watched the chargers my whole life

I've been saying this!!!

That eagles team was built BEFORE hurtz though. A better team won’t change fields making bad reads and missing wide open receivers

@@BaronVonBielski he has 1 wide receiver and no offensive line

The eagles brought in AJ Brown and drafted Smith. They actually made moves to help him out. The bears have done nothing to help out their young quarterback

Hurts been better than fields tho

indeed it did

Tends to happen with a terrible line

one read qbs dont last long int he nfl. this isnt ohio state where the wide receivers are wide open every play lol

One read because pressure up the middle immediately after the ball is snapped and he has to scramble because he doesn’t want to go 3 and out.

Bro wtf no he doesn’t lmao go watch some film you’re a media bum who follows narratives 😂😂 What did the GM do to make the team better?? NOT A DAMN THING it’s the same team as last year with an even WORSE offensive line.

I mean, I kinda disagree. He actually in my mind does really well because of how amazing his scrambling ability is. He does get sacked a lot from a shitty offensive line, but honestly he should have a lot more sacks. The amount of sacks he avoids by somehow scrambling is kinda nutty and only really a few other QB's in the league match his skill there. What's really inexcusable is just how piss poor his passing really is. He underthrows almost all his passes while occasionally overthrowing. He desperately struggles to hit any receiver that's in motion, and he is slow to release. I'm a Bears fan, but I really think he's going to bust purely because he's just not accurate enough and we don't have a receiving core that is capable of making up for it.

There's only 18 weeks to a season with a lot on the line. How long do you keep waiting on the most important position of your team before going back to the draftboard? Do you write off one year? Two? He hasn't shown much so far.

There's a fresh batch of players every year in the draft. Plus there's always veteran QB's to be had on the cheap. Fields is hardly the only QB to be treated this way. He needs to figure something out and fast.

As I said in a previous comment, I am close to thinking Fields is a bust and I was a big fan of his. But he just looks lost most of the time. He hasn't improved at all. The guy is slow to read the field and not very accurate - the two worse traits a QB can have. He still has time, but if he doesn't get a lot better by the end of the season Chicago needs to go looking for someone else.

Cause it moves quick in the NFL. I can't believe a number 1 overall pick like Baker in just 2018, is either out of the NFL or a backup moving forward. Wow.

I agree. Hell, some Jags fans are already labeling T-Law a bust, DESPITE him being on pace to double his TDs, cutting his INTs in half and improving his completion percentage. Some people only care about being right SMH

He had all day to plant, survey the field and miss wide open short passes. You nailed it.

That doesn’t account for him dodging sacks though

He does not hAve the most time in the pocket. Hes the most hurried passer in the league.

@@pahwraith Yes he is that's true at 13%, tied with Daniel Jones, then followed by Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahones, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodger, at 12% then Lamar and Jalen Hurts at 10%. Him being blitzed is 36% (Lamar 42%, Hurts 35%, Jones 34%) compared to league average of 27%. Sack rate is unfortunate at 20% of drop backs compared to average of 7%. However he has also thrown 62% of attempts compared to the league average of 221 attempts vs 136. However his pocket time is 2.6 secs dropped a little from SNAP to INITIAL PRESSURE. NFL average is 2.4 now, he is tied with, Derek Carr, Ryan Tannehill, Kirk Cousins, Lamar Jackson. Followed by Jacoby, Geno, Justin, Russell, Patrick, Daniel at 2.5. When your sample size 2/3rds what the NFL average everything seems worse. Like I said it is him and play call to figure out. Which they did against NE, if sustainable that was issue, NOT THE LINE. Those numbers for samples are readily available to anyone. I just those of 6+ weeks of playing to remove outliers.

Amazing, I didn't know that

Jaycee Horn was considered to be a better man to man CB that same year. Some draft "analysts" also thought Caleb Farley was better, but would only get drafted later due to injury.

Surtain was a good pick in terms of quality of player, he was only a "bad pick" because the Broncos specifically were a quarterback desperate team that already had a good defense.

@@rickywest3928 like I always say, you're better off playing craps than you are trying to predict NFL draft classes.

Fields was the no brainer pick and he still is. Denver will never have a QB as long as Elway is pulling the strings because he can't find another Andrew Luck type guy to remind him of himself.

@@roris5882 well you haven't been paying attention. First off, Ohio State QBs pretty much always suck in the NFL. 2nd, Fields fucking sucks.

Nah people were calling Daniel Jones a bust under even worse circumstances after only 2 seasons. And Jones rookie year is better than any year Justin Feilds has had. NFL is not a forgiving league.

@@The.Arbiter85 100% agree. Jones has 2 good lineman, zero receivers, a rookie tight end and saquan. People wanted his head and called him a bust the minute he was drafted.

@@Jrseydevil thing is Danny Dimes didn’t even really have Saquan. Dudes been hurt non-stop. Also Golladay is good just misused by the giants.

If you are constantly blaming everything around the QB, then you don't have a franchise QB. Simple as that.

@@The.Arbiter85 healthy Barkley and new competent coach has Jones looking good this year.

Lol

It would help, but it wouldnt change his awful mechanics or decision making.

he will still suck, his time to throw is one of the worst and he is a one read qb.

@@Getitstraightyo yeah and it's not like those weren't concerns before he was even drafted

He gets tons of time to throw at times. Tons of it. Hes had more time to throw than Rodgers this year. Sorry, but he’s a bust.

Hey, football is a team sport. Takes all 11 guys to make a system work.

It takes more than a QB for a team to be successful.

@@cbrindle91 which means teams can make somebody look way better than they are by covering their deficits. Seriously, when was the last time an Ohio State quarterback was good in the NFL?

@@IllMatic97 yeah. And that’s why I would never draft an Ohio state quarterback off of stats alone. As a fan of the team, I can see glaring issues in each quarterback we have had since 2010 when I actually knew what was going on. I’m taking guys with cannons on mediocre teams over them any day.

@@rikmcdik6662 smh you'd be the worst GM and or NFL owner if you're strategy is simply drafting players based off the colleges they come from.

Thank fucking you

@@javonnelson4694 😘 your team has sucked since 1985. And yes I remember the Rex Grossman Super Bowl team

Yep! Bears SUCK

Also as a Bears fan, he has the longest pocket time of any QB in the league. The line is NOT the problem, it is surprisingly a top 10 overall line this year so far. Number 5 in rushing efficiency. Number 8 in passing due to amount of sacks, yet number one by depending source by half a sec compared to the next best for pocket time. To compare, next best O-Line in pocket time is Ravens. Lamar has been pressured 60 times compared to Fields 30 , 11 Sacks vs 23. Then another comparison Joe Burrow 36 Blitz, 21 sacks, half a sec less time than Fields. (All through week 5) For once it is not the O-Line the issue, it is still either the QB or OC/QB Coach that is failing. I am not going to blame the OC too much for this one, if Fields does turn it around I will be happy. Otherwise, it seems the same song and dance since 85 of not having a good QB.

@@silverharvest753 he only has time because he extends plays not because his line is good

@@ceddygwap2795 pocket time is time from snap to when they first leave the tackles, extending plays is not apart of calculations. His scrambling adds a couple of secs.

@@silverharvest753 No offense my guy, but you have to be mental to believe our line is close to top-10... It doesn't matter what PFF grades us because of averages or something. Teams frequently get instant pressure through the middle of the line in pass pro, that's literally unplayable as a young QB

Throwing under pressure? Poor guy. If only he was still at OSU crushing cans 😭😭😭

It aged like fine wine.

That’s why fields is gonna be returning kicks right

hopefully they trade him to a winning team

The bears have never known how to develop a qb 🤣🤣🤣 yall are fucked

​@@lefrerehill2012THEY ARE

Was at the Bears game last Thursday sat in section 438 at Soldier Field George McCasky was walking around, I got out of my seat, marched down and told him straight up him and his idiot family are the reason they never win games

Ong I think he saw this😂

A yess by passing for 124 yards every game.

3-14

5-20 bro. He’s just continuing to prove Perna right

bruh hes w the bears what do u expect@@tclott316

Then he’s not a great QB. If that’s the case, he’s average at best. At best.

@@brianstollings6416 What about Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts

@@lordzeno3440 the “system” isn’t built around them. The team may be, not the system. Josh Allen could play in any system and so could Hurts. There is a difference in having a team built around you like Allen and Hurts, and having a system built around you cause you can only pull off a handful of throws and plays.

@@brianstollings6416 josh allen was garbage until bills got him elite receiver... So don't spew nonsense here. Bills offense and system is 100% built for Allen. Same with eagles who have provided hurts with a running offense and system rather than an offense predicated on 40 throws a game.

@@kartik1396 Allen wasn’t garbage before they got Diggs. You’re trying to exaggerate to fit your narrative. He was bad his rookie year just like Fields and had a pretty solid 2nd season until Diggs came in year 3. He doubled his TDs and dropped his turnover total on his own without Diggs. The system isn’t built for him either. That’s the same system he’s been running since his rookie year when he was the shits. They didn’t change scheme or coach or do something drastically different, Allen just got better. That’s why they had damn near the same team and offense in 2019 and he took em to the playoffs. Without Diggs.

Just wait until next year, once all the dead cap money falls. Bears still dealing with the cluster-fuck financial situation Pace left.

Fields is learning how to Quarterback from the pocket. That’s the smart thing to do no matter how ugly it looks.

Very good take my brotha! I think you're spot on! ✌️

How about now?

It’s a pretty terrible situation tho tbf 😂😂

That’s what I’m afraid of, CJ is going to be good if he can seat for a year behind a vet. He will be ruined by a Team like the Texans, panthers or commanders.

It’s more than just surrounding talent at Ohio state. Ohio state system relies heavily on wide recievers making reads on coverage and qbs hitting them after they make their cuts. Problem is in nfl you don’t have that kind of time to let a route develop. Fields is hesitating and behind the bears o line that’s a fatal mistake.

Carolina* at this point, I'm convinced the Panthers are so bad people even forget about them

At least the Panthers finally have a good oline

I've never seen perna take down a video...

I'm withholding judgement until there's a real roster around him tbh

@@chrisreynolds6143 good qb elevate the rosters

@@mo-hunnit9184 not so early in their careers they dont. If he had better weapons

@@mo-hunnit9184 Only generational talents elevate rosters this bad, and even then... didn't work out so hot for Andrew Luck.

He has a great run game . ?

The criticism isn’t about the talent around him, we know that receivers drop balls, we know the O-line more often than not protects him. Those plays never made anyone a bust. It’s the easy plays that he is not seeing or making, like the layups. Not seeing the quick outs, not seeing short dumps, not throwing the ball away and taking unnecessary sacks. That’s what is disturbing.

@@renzoroberson7819 oh for sure; he still gotta work on those. I still feel like Eberflus and Getsy aren't really helping with that tho, like they don't even try to adjust the plays for him or learn his strengths and weaknesses

Running the ball doesn’t make you an instantly good QB. He definitely deserves credit though, and a much better o-line.

Chicago has always needed a QB with an ego that can withstand handing the ball off and play-action. McMahon was the undisputed champion of that mindset in Chicago, but both Tom Brady and Russel Wilson (early) would have thrived their as well (not considering for the poor coaching). He sank his teeth into other aspects of the game. They thought they had that in Trubitsky: a team player. Unfortunately, he let the moment get to him and, in IMHO, tried too hard in the passing game show off that he was more than "game manager" (a B.S. insult made up by media personalities).

Yeah not hard. You have to be a media darling, team leader, charismatic enough to be at least friendly with people from very diverse communities, athletic to throw a football at 40mph 100 times a day, tough enough to have 300lbs guys fall on you, smart enough to read defenses, remember 12 word plays, then remember what and where everyone has to do and be, and forget a bad play so it doesn't effect your future throws. Edit: "Not that hard" right?

@@BryceJ80 The classic Yt reply. I say “not sure is that hard anymore” you say “super easy”.

@@jpmartinez6608 It is called sarcasm. I because the job I described isn't easy. I thought it was so blatantly obvious. That I didn't think i had to add a /s. I will go and edit to say "not that hard"

That guy has analyzed Fields every week since week one for Chicago Radio Shows. He's seen every snap from Fields, at least twice. If you don't know what you're talking about then just shut up. That guy criticizes Fields pretty frequently, but not for being a 'one-read QB'. It's that Fields CAN read the field, and does well on almost every play but won't pull the trigger sometimes. It's a confidence thing, and that doesn't bode well for Fields either. But a one-read QB he is not...

That's all this Bears organization is good for... Ruining Great talent !! ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR POCKET BOOKS!!! ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ALWAYS WILL!!! Typical Chicago bullshit!!!

2 weeks later and basically the 3rd straight 30 points game.

@@TheSjuris Yes because for the 3rd straight game now his playcaller has been calling plays TO HIS STRENGTHS!

@@roudyman777 it’s the first time we had an offensive coordinator design an offense around the skills of the Quarterback instead of forcing him to play his system.

@@TheSjuris 100% agree and wow look what happens! BTW fun fact Da Bears have the 2nd highest ppg in the last 3 weeks.

You would absolutely take Justin Fields on the Detroit Lions. Tune in Sunday for confirmation.

yeah this Video...DIDN'T age well lol

Definitely a trade bust if you’re giving up firsts. Broncos pulled a Brooklyn Nets