"But they must be destroyed" | How Rocky Mountain makes (and breaks) mountain bikes

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We visit Rocky Mountain's research and development lab on the North Shore of Vancouver, BC, to see what goes in to bringing a mountain bike from the drawing board to the trails.
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00:00 - History lesson with Wade Simmons
5:44 - Off topic?
7:42 - Talking with Lyle about their testing process
8:40 - Creating test bikes prior to development
10:50 - Head tube flex machine
12:15 - Breaking a frame
15:03 - Head tube strength
15:30 - Pedaling a bike to death on the pedal tester
18:13 - Ebike test mules
19:09 - Aligning frames on the alignment table
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@psclassy1123 Жыл бұрын

Wade Simmons put a riser bar on my new Kona Caldera in the 90s when he was at the Cove shop. He and I were the only ones in the shop that night chatting it up and he said he was in a bike film premiering that week downtown in Vancouver. He told me that he hopes this whole free riding thing he was involved in takes off and was a success. Cool to have meet him that way.

@dawnpoint Жыл бұрын

Obi-Wan is an incredible bike engineer.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Who'da thunk! - Dan P.

@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 10 ай бұрын

Tell me you never get laid without actually telling me you never, and I mean never, get laid.

@mtbracer123 4 ай бұрын

@@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeshe said something funny why you hating

@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 4 ай бұрын

@mtbracer123 you kinda took that personally eh?

@mtbracer123 4 ай бұрын

@@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes not really your just being a dick for no reason

@mug3l Жыл бұрын

Wade has enough energy for two people.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

He was great. Absolute character. Cheers - Dan P.

@iffy_too4289 Жыл бұрын

He's like a Canadian Rob Warner!

@HUKIT. Жыл бұрын

That was pretty damn interesting, well done lads.

@segamethod Жыл бұрын

Lyle's comments about how small or new manufacturers with just a few frames under their umbrella having a tough time resonates with me. I had a Revel Rascal for a few years, which was honestly a pretty great bike in a lot of ways, but suffered greatly from poor frame alignment and quality. The bearings ate themselves, it always made noise, it was way heavier than it should have been. I think Revel has a lot of potential, but in retrospect I should have known better than to buy one of their debut models.

@LalBikes1 Жыл бұрын

Great video all around. Fingers crossed Lyle doesn't join the dark side.

@thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Жыл бұрын

I only have one rocky. A red 1991 Rocky Mountain Hammer.

@dirtwolfmtb 8 ай бұрын

This sales guy makes me want to buy a Rocky just watching this video. Great video guys! Cool to see so much of the brains and work to make great bikes.

@believe8263 Жыл бұрын

Good job Dan.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. - Dan P.

@Neanderstaal Жыл бұрын

I could listen to Lyle explain stuff all day long.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

He was a wealth of knowledge, it was great talking with him! - Dan P

@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 10 ай бұрын

Kinda gay

@guillaume.legrand8270 Жыл бұрын

Well done! Very interesting video. What about the pain test for their carbon frame?

@alexrobles6492 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Very interesting. 👍

@22corgis 6 ай бұрын

Nice to see what goes into making one of their bikes! I bought my first mtb, a RM Growler recently and it’s amazing I love bopping around town with it 😍

@DoctorDefiler Жыл бұрын

Uncle Wade!

@mathewbascom1811 Жыл бұрын

I just bought my first rocky mountain 11 days ago, a growler, because I wanted a DH capable climbing bike for under 1k that I can play with and build over time. And because who wouldn't look like a psychopath showing up to the group ride on a hardtail with slacker geo than most fs rigs.😅🤙

@impaledface7694 10 ай бұрын

Very cool. My most ridden rocky is an element 70 from 2009. Never let me down.

@twinshock175 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that insider look to a process we all take for granted. I was just as laid back as you think, but serious enough to have confidence in a product. I have now more respect for their bikes after seeing this, and been looking at RM bikes too to upgrade in the future.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Lyle was a wealth of knowledge, it was cool getting to talk to him. Holler if you ever have any questions about the bikes! - Dan P.

@curtvaughan2836 Жыл бұрын

Very informative - I wonder if most mass produced frames get thorough testing like this.

@ronnie2.039 Жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain are mass produced

@ih302 Жыл бұрын

RM frames like basically every other company's frames are made in Asia, some of the best frames in the world come out of Taiwan. What you are seeing in this video is product development.

@ethanrevitch Жыл бұрын

Hoo Koo E Koo Trail is right out my front door!

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Rad!! Where abouts? - Dan P.

@bobsoft Жыл бұрын

I still own an old school Rocky Mountain Hammer in black. I also have a 2004 Balfa BB7 that was briefly owned by Rocky. Used to have a Blizzard that was hand built by Chris Dekerf.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Oh dang. That's some real bike history right there! Cheers - Dan P.

@averagejoe5653 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe! - Dan P.

@Whateva67 7 ай бұрын

I have an ‘01 Slayer, still has the original tires on it. Clearly I didn’t ride it enough. Looks good though and looks brand new. 😊

@NoShredDad 8 ай бұрын

Snapped a seat stay right at the rear axle last year on my 2018 RM a instinct A50. Rocky did warranty it, but it’s a common occurrence with RM rear triangles. I did love my RM thou.

@ssjj9584 Жыл бұрын

I thought freeride originated in Laguna in late 70’s early 80’s with Laguna tech terrain and the Rads?

@corydalus981 9 ай бұрын

I have a Thunderbolt in the same Canadacentric paint scheme as seen at 0:33. I love the bike, and the look. In a sea of bikes that are black with accents in various neon colors, it really stands out.

@YouTubeOdyssey 9 ай бұрын

I'm in Wa. State, can you define " Canadacentric "?

@corydalus981 9 ай бұрын

@@KZfaqOdyssey the red on white motif with the red maple leaves!

@dems_mtb Жыл бұрын

great video!

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Thank you! - Dan P.

@danandkiko Жыл бұрын

So fascinating. Glad I watched this.

@FanatikBikeCo 11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!! - Dan P.

@Themilkmanskid. 2 ай бұрын

I love doin' wheelies on my RM. It's a bit heavy for hours of wheelies, but I'm leaner than ever and old as dirt.

@bikeninja956 Жыл бұрын

Very fascinating exposé, my kinda thing..

@jjac72 6 ай бұрын

I bought the rocky mountain fusion and upgraded few parts . Rm makes awesome bikes

@iffy_too4289 Жыл бұрын

such an interesting video, thanks!

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

@ROSE-by5su Жыл бұрын

I have question, there are some bikes that are not like the main market let’s say a Slopestyle bike I have seen Rockymountain Slopestyle bike and it was really cool but of course they don’t sell it. What if companies just make it order to made or made to order something like that I would happy to wait

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head as to why they aren't mass produced-the brand doesn't see enough of a market for them. That said, these types of bikes are available from smaller manufacturers, I bet you could find one for sale with a little digging! Cheers - Dan P.

@youtube7076 Жыл бұрын

now i did hit play,! and love it! more color grading tho eh..

@thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Жыл бұрын

many did the Element style. Giant, Caloi, Mongoose etc... but for cross country i thought they were the best as climbing means much to me

@youtube7076 Жыл бұрын

tell wade simmons to put some beard shine in! and that his designs are boss man bro siick! send it!

@bikebudha01 Жыл бұрын

I just but a deposit on (2) new Element C50s... this video only makes me more excited about getting the bikes...

@GHinWI Жыл бұрын

It’s like they’re making a new season of “The Red Green Show”!

@ih302 Жыл бұрын

I got a Growler 50 on the way!

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Ooo exciting!

@nicgur_6981 Жыл бұрын

He looks like the guy from myth busters💀

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Ha, he kinda does! Lyle was a great host and super informative. Cheers - Dan P.

@youtube7076 Жыл бұрын

i did not yet hit play, just wanted to say, BEST FUXKING DESC/THUMB EVER!.

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

hahaha thanks!

@ExhumedToConsume Жыл бұрын

Wade is a menace and I mean that in the best way possible lol

@youtube7076 Жыл бұрын

2:12 you! wtf! thats how last years suspension was geometried and you were doing them "in the EARLY 200s ", siick, so so flex!

@flennboyd6413 30 минут бұрын

After watching this, my next bike is going to be a RM...

@oscarfabian8074 Жыл бұрын

Yup, he went way more rad than he should have.

@charleslawton8764 Жыл бұрын

Bike testing… of course it’s measured in cycles!

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Hahahah, good catch! - Dan P

@DionEconomopoulos-ks1gz 6 ай бұрын

Lol these guys don't give a fawk... I like it!

@andyjonathan2486 Жыл бұрын

17:21 sounds like they are lacking FEA simulation capabilities.

@maciejzwolinski4022 Жыл бұрын

Sounds more like FEA helps but real tests give touchable results

@tristanhanley8741 Жыл бұрын

FEA only tells you so much, definitely a GIGO situation though. There is a reason that physical testing still has a place in engineering

@andyjonathan2486 Жыл бұрын

@@maciejzwolinski4022 trial and error testing prototypes can be very expensive and much slower to arrive at a solution. When strain gauge measurements can be used in conjunction with FEA, the end model can be very accurate. Using the old-time “By Guess and By Golly” approach to design is antiquated and inefficient. I can’t think of a single automotive engineering company that will produce suspension components without FEA simulation beforehand.

@andyjonathan2486 Жыл бұрын

@@tristanhanley8741 agreed. Either the design engineer was provided garbage input loads into the shock tab, or he didn’t run any stress analysis before cutting metal. Definitely the test lab is the last line of defense to guard against component failures-I’m somewhat surprised RM shared this design flaw on KZfaq, as most OEMs are pretty tight lipped.

@maciejzwolinski4022 Жыл бұрын

Who said they don't run FEA simulations? Random guy in a KZfaq comment section? Take a look at Ministry cycles psalm frame - cracked prototype during efbe test despite FEA analysis. Same about kaventz.

@BGWordneemig Жыл бұрын

You Know, You Know, You know. etc. ......

@jasonlewis6914 Жыл бұрын

Go titanium ull have a bike for life

@laurafulton7023 Жыл бұрын

Boycott Rocky Mtn until they’re made in Canada again

@NickRaven Жыл бұрын

Very informative, but it seemed like the cameraman was constantly on their phone distracted, things out of frame, moving around chaotically, little stabilization, etc. I had to stop watching because it felt like they were gonna walk away at random points.

@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 10 ай бұрын

Rocky Mountain had so much potential in the early 2000s. Now they're just an afterthought in the mind of the consumer.

@shanedejong7636 Жыл бұрын

So what’s the new bike they’re testing 🫣

@southpawlibranine3511 Жыл бұрын

Is the host a serial killer

@FanatikBikeCo Жыл бұрын

Serial killer of bike frames!! Lyle was a phenomenal host and incredibly knowledgeable. - Dan P.

@southpawlibranine3511 Жыл бұрын

@@FanatikBikeCo i was talking about the host of the show not the rocky mountain employee

@MikeesTexas Жыл бұрын

Dan has been known to kill trail features from time to time

@southpawlibranine3511 Жыл бұрын

How bout you stop over charging for your bikes and god sakes change the paint. Rocky mountain has some of the worst paint jobs and boring looking bikes

@jennifergallant543 Жыл бұрын

Paint chips so easy on there bikes too crazy!!!

@mjor6406 10 ай бұрын

Do you buy a sports car based on interior materials and paint and not on handling and feel?