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Buying AP and Patek Philippe watches for 50% OFF!!
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In this episode we were visited by Eddie and Vadim from Wrist Aficionado who gave us some insight in to how the recent correction in the watch market has lead to AP and Patek watches being available for 50% of what they were only a few months ago!
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0:00 - Intro
1:26 - The Correction
1:47 - Patek Philippe 5711Rose Gold
2:59 - Patek Philippe 5711 Stainless Steel
3:44 - Patek Philippe 5711 Blue Dial
4:17 - AP Royal Oak "50th Anniversary"
5:00 - What Caused the Correction?
8:08 - Michael's Recent Vintage Rolex Purchase
9:40 - So Which Watch Should I buy?
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@nagakanth 2 жыл бұрын
I love you Michael, You are honest about the prediction in prices. These watch dealers are always biased. They talk as if they are financial analysts. I have been collecting watches since 2002 and never ever saw a watch market like this in the last 2 years. Good Luck to people who bought these watches at 3X or 4X. I hate when people say watches are investment, Watches are meant to be worn enjoyed and passed on. These dealers and flippers killed the fun of collectors and watch enthusiasts. I am sorry if i hurt anybody's feelings. I hope that there will be a day soon that you can walk into an AD and buy a watch of your choice.
@fayaazalibhai4665 2 жыл бұрын
Nah you haven't screw emm all
@acac1982 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there’s a bubble, only a bubble to a curtain extent. Rolex submariners will NEVER go below retail. Daytonas will never go below 2 times there value.
@felixgebers3038 2 жыл бұрын
No way you can any watch you want from the ad. That’s not their business model. But I agree that the marked is more or less fu*ked. It will come down on certain models and other models will go up. But what I can agree 100% on is that watches are meant to be worn, enjoyed and passed on. 👍🏻
@Spazik86 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares about pleple who bought watches at 3x 4x prices. People who are buying 50k, 100k, hell even 5k+ USD watches have those money to BURN. They do not need them for living.
@areohwhy 2 жыл бұрын
@@acac1982 you can already get a Ceramic Daytona below 2x retail lol
@user-gp5qt3ms5q 2 жыл бұрын
This felt like i was watching a therapy session where the dealers were convincing themselves everything is all okay😭
@iscocapella 2 жыл бұрын
totally
@roksmerkol8300 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thay will all say off corse correction is over -buy the fu....in watches...mhm we get used on waiting -so we will wait some more
@NEROROYAL 2 жыл бұрын
@@roksmerkol8300 Love when these dealers act like they’re doing a favour for customers. It’s like a welfare check up huh? 😂😂😂
@nanoflower1 2 жыл бұрын
Can't really blame them as they are salesmen trying to sell a product and telling people the price will only get lower isn't going to work for them.
@0dyss3us51 2 жыл бұрын
Yes hahahha
@stevekannan6076 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing special about these prices. Hgh-end reps are the same quality but for 95%-99% off. Speaking from personal experience who got 1:1 clone after owning multiple originals and never looked back.
@andrewdoe3488 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get it from? Asking for a friend 😂😂
@stevekannan6076 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdoe3488 Sweetyclones
@andrewdoe3488 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevekannan6076 Thanks! On Instagram??
@stevekannan6076 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bombazine2 2 жыл бұрын
The last person you want knowing you’re wearing a fake watch, is your self.
@4747da 2 жыл бұрын
whenever someone tells you "commodity X will never go down", "investment Y wiil definitely retain value", run like the wind. I'm glad to see that Michael has always been careful with his words, unlike some dealers featured in his videos. people just don't learn from history. there's almost no investment that is hazard free. and the more irrational the value, the more volatility it possesses.
@wallpaper000 2 жыл бұрын
And when it does go down, those 'experts' disappear into thin air..
@araoghlian5890 Жыл бұрын
Nice words
@2011blueman 2 жыл бұрын
"50% off", LMAO, no. The bubble is bursting and they're trying to sell them to you before they tank even more. When the watches are back to normal MSRP prices or lower is when it will be worth considering purchasing.
@big_boy_chris 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how the Nautilus 5711 according to this video when filmed early Aug was $140k... as of Aug 16, 2022... that same exact model with box and papers is now going for $117k on chrono24 and nobody is buying. Keep the price cuts coming!
@dellwright1407 2 жыл бұрын
To put that in context, a hyped luxury watch with massive MSRP mark up is still over double retail in the trows of a recession.
@steven8628 2 жыл бұрын
so real price is 85% of lowest chrono prices since there are 7% fee and the other 8% is discount to move. Watch Affociado way overprice their watches anyways. You can get better pricing from other grey dealers
@dorkflassbury1164 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. When it hits 15k I'll buy (got to sell my car first though).
@jesperthomsen6984 2 жыл бұрын
Still an insane price for a basic 3-hander in steel
@JS-dt1tn Жыл бұрын
@@dellwright1407 the recession hasn't started yet. Give it 6 months more.
@dpie4859 2 жыл бұрын
As a Swiss following the watch market I can tell you that prices will fall MUCH more. Its quite likely that you will be able to buy most Rolex, AP and PP under list price within 6-12 months as the global recession hits hard. All speculators and grey market dealers will be flood the market with watches whilst very few people will buy.
@bdcash 2 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed. Rolex 'expressions of interest' (waiting lists) are very healthy at the moment, but it'll be a different matter next year, when people get the call.
@aeroAdvocate 2 жыл бұрын
50% off 😂 Still a lot more than retail. I’d never buy flipped watches in the grey market. Guess a lot of people including dealers lost their ass. It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of schmucks.
@dellwright1407 2 жыл бұрын
Yep if you don't buy on the grey market its because you don't need to because (a) You're really after brands where the grey market flippers don't operate... I got my Casio and Tissot at retail! (b) You're so f-off wealthy that your AD provides you with desirable high end models as retail. I suspect for most watch geeks its more the former than the latter!
@BAF605 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍😂😂
@aeroAdvocate 2 жыл бұрын
@@dellwright1407 not really. I bought three rolex from regular AD’s. Explorer 1 in 2020, Explorer 2 in 2019 and a SkyDweller in January of this year. Just by walking into local stores in Germany, Las Vegas and Spain. For the SkyDweller I had to wait a month. I had no prior relationship with these dealers. Oh, I even got one of these fun Swatch watches too. 😅
@christianhermann1372 2 жыл бұрын
@@dellwright1407 But to by a Tissot at retail is also not smart. You can get always 10-15% off easily.
@NobaDyKnowZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@aeroAdvocate those aren’t the highly desired models though
@vinster666 2 жыл бұрын
Because of Rolex constantly playing games with not releasing watches and having only exhibition watches I have purchased a Grand Seiko Shunbun. Fantastic watch, dial and movement. No stupid questions, long wait list or snobbery. Went in, made to feel very welcome and brought the watch.
@acac1982 2 жыл бұрын
But you wanted a Rolex, that’s the issue with people buying substitutes, it will never ever feel as good as that Rolex. It is awful what ADs do, but you got to play the game, to win. You buy watch you truly want.
@rich2579 2 жыл бұрын
Great piece and congrats! I have a shunbun as well and love it. With all the bad vibes surrounding Rolex, I went into an AD in my hometown and couldn't be happier with the service and experience of putting my name down. I'm not in a rush to purchase and there's a sort of thrill in the chance of getting the Rolex I want at MSRP.
@NEROROYAL 2 жыл бұрын
@@acac1982 Totally agree. He never got what he really wanted and if he gets the call he would’ve wasted money on a Seiko unnecessary purchase.
@samuelburton5576 2 жыл бұрын
@@acac1982 well said
@vinster666 2 жыл бұрын
@@acac1982 I have a Rolex Milgauss 116400GV and a 2016 116900 Airking. Loved the watches and still do. I was just saying that I cannot purchase anymore due to the games Rolex play. I’d like the Tiffany OP but well out my price range now. I kept asking Rolex AD’s for this but was told I would never get one. These are one of the cheapest watches Rolex make but I give up on waiting and won’t pay the secondary market a huge mark up
@mikeybmw1 2 жыл бұрын
They haven’t crashed as it was all false in the first place , if they are still well above retail then they are still extremely over priced ….
@FeelingPeculiar 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are talking about the economy!
@robertsbeadle6743 2 жыл бұрын
That same 5711r they are saying is sub 200k is on their site for 229k
@awn7775 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he avoided Michaels question 😂. I think the Luxury watch Market will continue to dip over the next few months. The lucky few who get to purchase them at list will be good
@RA-ui8yw 2 жыл бұрын
@AWN 777 we are already in a recession that has a likelihood to get worse in the next few months. I think it’s safe to say luxury goods like watches and jewelry will certainly have a pullback
@JasonTheWatchGuy 2 жыл бұрын
"They've corrected slightly" Half the price it was 🤣
@alexanderchadwick5346 2 жыл бұрын
People were borrowing money to buy watches? What a bad idea!
@whatsup4616 2 жыл бұрын
People borrow money for everything that is showing growing potential. I can still remember 2017 when people were borrowing money to buy Bitcoin 🤔
@pleun315 2 жыл бұрын
Fast money.......😂😂😂 They Will fall down
@tinkerer67 2 жыл бұрын
If you could beat the interest rate you borrowed it for by flipping watches, I don't see the issue.
@flamboyentpromotions3471 2 жыл бұрын
People borrow to buy cars which depreciate so why not borrow to buy a watch which has more chance of appreciating if you can afford it,but its all about timing obviously buy when prices are low
@Exotic-P 2 жыл бұрын
Their worthless lives will end to the sound of a gat once their "investments " continue to crash back to normal value
@dwyanebrentson2837 2 жыл бұрын
They are not friends their opportunist looking for someone to separate from his hard earned money.
@Nordic_Sky 2 жыл бұрын
"We are now at fair market." Well, 6 months ago when that steel 5711 was $200K and that panda Daytona was $55K, that was fair market at that time. The market changes. Pricing above fair market means charging more than others are charging at that time. Fair market changes with time. It is not stable. Whenever you're paying over MSRP, you're at risk.
@trisinogy 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever watch retailers/sellers talk prices, they always say they're gonna be stable... Always time to buy, never time to wait... I don't think they act ethically. More like scammers, actually. Don't like this a bit, sorry.
@BAF605 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the squirming. Come back in another three months and watch them say prices are "stable" after more large falls. These guys are giving a free education to those who had the sense not to spend stupid money up to now. Many people will learn the dealer is not your friend and never was. 😊😊😊
@samuelburton5576 2 жыл бұрын
Because you didn't hear what you wanted. That's why
@samuelburton5576 2 жыл бұрын
@@BAF605 boo boo!!!
@Timjacks01 2 жыл бұрын
No dealer will say wait. Last 6 months all saying it won’t drop further and it does. Wait for the recession to bite end of 2022
@pleun315 2 жыл бұрын
You are the first who really understand....... Just wait it will go down big time.... People who are in this stupid empty lonely word of watches with all their money know ..... It was all about fast money. Me me me.... They Will loose big time
@joehughes3764 2 жыл бұрын
Michael seems to delight in telling people the market has "crashed"
@dlife7427 2 жыл бұрын
Because he knows so many of these guys are scam artists.
@andrewvaughan5686 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlife7427 lol have you seen all these youtuber watch dealers, they're all ex convicts/shady as fuck.
@dlife7427 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewvaughan5686 exactly
@joehughes3764 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kigoz4Life I think he does it out of mischief but I don't think you should take delight in other people's misfortune
@andrewvaughan5686 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kigoz4Life he's never going to sell them regardless so it doesn't matter to him if they're worth 2c or $2 million
@itsnowjoke1381 2 жыл бұрын
The Guy on the left looks worried 😟
@brandonshirey400 2 жыл бұрын
Watches are taking a huge hit. These “low prices” are all relative and are going to continue to drop.
@samuelburton5576 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know Nostradamus?
@nasidctg 2 жыл бұрын
I will never pay a penny over retail and quite happy to wait for the stuff I want. Watches arent investments, you buy them to wear them. I'm actually glad the market took a big hit, hopefully it will come down even more. People went bat shit crazy and paid 60,000$ for a 4000$ watch for fucks sake. Personally I'm not interested in the top segment of the market anyway. Quite happy to stay within the 2500$-15000$ range.
@LigerSupremacy 2 жыл бұрын
I will never pay retail. The MSRP for these PP and AP watches is too high (10x already) compared to what they cost to make.
@namelessrace9803 2 жыл бұрын
You see Vadim is being very quiet cuz he knows that we haven't hit bottom yet. Prices are going to keep on dropping...it wasn't too long ago in 2016 or 2015 when you could buy rolexes, and popular ones at that, for under retail price. In the next 3 to 6 months I'm waiting for those Glory Days to return.
@zodd67 2 жыл бұрын
I think Micheal was wondering if he'd ever get his watch back at the end 😅
@wimpeeters9837 2 жыл бұрын
Micheal:”Do you now what my watch is “ the guy has no idea and says “its a beautiful Rolex”
@acac1982 2 жыл бұрын
Some Of the comments are saying these two are great watch dealers
@lousyshot1 2 жыл бұрын
Producer Michael, you need to call those guys out on their recommendation. Anyone who knows money, and anyone with any kind of fiduciary experience, will tell you that we are headed for a prolonged and deep recession. The primary watch market has not bottomed out. And the secondary market has a long way to drop before it stabilizes. It will be between 6 and 12 months, and most Rolex models will be available at MSRP. Or discounted. Many dealers have been hanging on to inventory hoping prices have bottomed out. But they will not be able to sit on inventory indefinitely. And when that happens, those millions and millions of Rolex will be available on the market. Not the scarce models, or the limited editions. Or the rare gem editions. But it will not be long before we will be seeing Batman's in the gray market at MSRP or lower.
@DidierPeroni 2 жыл бұрын
These are the videos when i realise Michael is a lot more prudent than he seems. He has been buying watches at cutdown prices while the speculators have been selling off.
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@seanzielony8247 2 жыл бұрын
He’s very savvy and he didn’t get where he is now without a business brain. Most of his Rolex are at retail from AD. He’s shown quite a few pieces he’s acquired from AD, and Adam made sure he showed the receipt of price he paid. These two have no doubt gone to Micheal and asked to be showcased on his channel.
@darylh649 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly the two guys selling the watches are not gonna tell you to keep waiting much longer knowing that prices are going to continue to drop .The higher $ you pay the more $ they make
@roksmerkol8300 2 жыл бұрын
Soner you bay, less thay will lose...
@darylh649 2 жыл бұрын
@@roksmerkol8300 Why would you overpay on an investment when if you wait a little bit longer you’ll get it even cheaper. Buy low sell high
@BUPLAYA 2 жыл бұрын
I like how they all now say “oh yeah prices were high and needed correction” when they are the ones who priced and sold high promising people great investment deals. Bunch of scammers and unethical practices. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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@2012ArsenalMega 2 жыл бұрын
Haha it's so fun to see them sweating and hoping they would flip them asap before they will start the sell below the sticker and they will. Trust me...
@kingxerxes3139 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter If you are rich or not. No watch in the world should have a pricetag of more then 30K. If you have diamonds max. 50K. But stainless steel watches over the 10K!? People with class and style never pay that amount of money for stainless steel. At the end, it’s just a watch.
@itsnowjoke1381 2 жыл бұрын
Real collectors have been waiting for this
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@TheHarryb 2 жыл бұрын
Some people must have taken some nasty financial hits. Glad Michael with his *wild* watches is still safe.
@farleym4486 2 жыл бұрын
If they actually sold, I see so many listings that just sit there not selling. Anyone can list something at extortionate prices but is anyone actually buying them or is it all hype from the people just trying to sell them...
@nanoflower1 2 жыл бұрын
The people that took the heavy hits were those that were borrowing just to flip the watches. I don't know how many of those flippers were in the marketplace but it was clearly enough that everyone recognized their influence. With them gone (or slowly getting out of the market) things should begin to stabilize whether that's now or some months from now. People like Michael should be safe because all of his purchases (as far as I know) are done with money he's actually earned so even if the value of his watch collection crashed (as Michael so loves to say) it isn't going to severely hurt him. Though I'm sure he wouldn't be happy.
@notinvegas 2 жыл бұрын
Yea ,but only Untill he tries to sell them.Good luck with that
@Mikesmeyer88 2 жыл бұрын
@@nanoflower1 people are seeing its not really worth it for all the bs you have to do, yes you can buy a watch to resell but after you sell it, it's gone because you'll have to buy another at the price you sold it for. So either keep the watch or make a little profit. I think they put those crazy high listenings up so you feel like you're actually getting a decent deal but you're not.
@blind3897 2 жыл бұрын
Adam, i don't know what that tapping is, starts at around 6:06 and it drives me nuts
@PureSwank 2 жыл бұрын
Second 0:38 into the video something is up with the guy in black. Everytime Michael says "down in value" or "collapsed" or "decreased" you can tell these guys get ticked lmao! It's probably because they prefer "corrected" as apposed to the wording the mike uses which scares customers away. The fact of the matter is Mike's wording is THE HARSH REALITY. THANKS MIKE!
@jeffhayes6843 2 жыл бұрын
What a surprise another grey market dealer once again saying the same thing they’ve been saying for the past six months “no you’re good NOW, you can buy watches now”. If you aren’t getting that watch at retail, if you don’t absolutely have to have THAT watch and the price is of little concern, anyone buying a watch on the secondary market today is a fool. And you know what they say about fools and money.
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@automotivediversity554 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a bit baffled why antique watches from the 50’s,60’s,70’s etc don’t command more money. There are some very unique high quality watches from those era’s that are harder to buy than many Rolex, Tissot, seiko etc etc Would be nice if you could feature a video with these sort of watches at some point with watches like sultana, smiths, modina and other vintage watch brands
@2011blueman 2 жыл бұрын
Watches from that period are much smaller in diameter, so they're out of style. Also, the cost of maintaining them and fixing them is outrageous because the parts aren't available.
@automotivediversity554 2 жыл бұрын
I do get that they might be expensive to maintain but if you’re looking for something that not many will be able to find but easily affordable then some of the older vintage watches can be a good option. My sultana chronograph running landerno 149 is a good 38mm wide and looks as good as some of my more modern watches and always get more questions from people asking what it is and where they can get one till I explain how old it is (late 60’s early 70’s)
@saint7626 2 жыл бұрын
The watch industry is all about marketing and false scarcity. Patek makes over 60,000 watches PER YEAR. AP makes over 40,000 watches PER YEAR. Rolex makes OVER 800,000 WATCHES PER YEAR. There's no reason most "limited" modern pieces should ever be trading above retail, let alone general production pieces, but gatekeeping by the brands creates that false inflation. Older watches from a time when production was a fraction of what it is now should be objectively more valuable, but the market is dictated by modern trends. Maybe they'll get the recognition they deserve in another 50 years.
@nikhilmathur6042 2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at vintage Rolex Patek VC etc and get back to me. Vintage watches are the most valuable watches in the world. They command much more then there modern counterparts
@automotivediversity554 2 жыл бұрын
@@saint7626 exactly! There’s so many older watches out there that are absolutely outstanding in terms of quality and style plus the rarity factor and at fraction of the price.
@coronetmag 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of asking watch salesmen the status of the watch market? Any conflict of interest? 😂 I mean look at 9:26, what is he going to say? “Don’t buy now”? 😂
@bonnystarks 2 жыл бұрын
50% off of a crazy price is still a stupid price... So you saying that I can get a SUB for 18K when new is 9 but before was 22K ? WOW AMAZIIIING..... and what is this continus clicking sound on the video Adam ?
@derrekb4501 2 жыл бұрын
Such salesmanship, they look at you straight in the eye telling you a $50K watch "now" selling$150K is hitting a sweet spot. They both know they are still in this game because truth is watches are still insanely over priced, we have not gone anywhere near normal, until these used pieces goes less than retail DO NOT BUY. Great content but these two guys aren't honest. They are here to promote and sell...another thing I hate about these two well dressed salesmen is they now all sound like financial advisor, stabilized, sweet spot, future, market, trends....all these buzz words, these guys are not experts, they are Craigslist flippers, no difference.
@samuelburton5576 2 жыл бұрын
Are you more informed than them? Are you more qualified than them? If not then what gives you the right to question their integrity?
@nanoflower1 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelburton5576 I'm not questioning their integrity but am more than willing to point out that they have a great incentive to see the marketplace through rose colored glasses. After all, telling people the price will only go down from here is not how you sell anything. So they may actually think the marketplace is at a stable point,but until a few months have gone by with relatively stable prices no one can be sure we've hit a bottom. This is true for any market where a large number of the buyers were just flipping the products. It's happened with shoes, with graphic cards and with watches.
@nv1573 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelburton5576 what's the difference between them and flippers? They aren't official dealers they are the aftermarket dealers aka flippers 🤣
@derrekb4501 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelburton5576 It's a simple principle called freedom of expression, freedom to pursuit happiness. I can say whatever I want as it is my right. These two are clowns. Producer Michael is fine he is making great content, who are you to question me? Watch is like art, all in the eyes the beholder. Sam, think for yourself.
@closer71 2 жыл бұрын
They’re selling for what buyers are willing to pay. That’s all. So wtf are you on about, man?
@manikhorajina2662 Жыл бұрын
always in love with michael intro and outro
@BAF605 2 жыл бұрын
It won't be long before dealers are trying to offload for much less. One of those guys looks like he's already been scalped by whoever he's leveraged to. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@pleun315 2 жыл бұрын
The gold diggers Will all fall down......
@acac1982 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t know what your on about, watch Roman sharf and his grey market, and tell me that there’s a crash
@pleun315 2 жыл бұрын
@@acac1982 its allready happening.... Not that fast yet but Just Wait....... Just wait
@acac1982 2 жыл бұрын
@@pleun315 Great reset
@pleun315 2 жыл бұрын
@@acac1982 yessss finally back to normal 🙏
@davidmckinnon5048 2 жыл бұрын
I'm tremendously lucky. My Rolex AD is my next door neighbor. Got all my pieces at retail.😎
@LigerSupremacy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm tremendously lucky. I have an ebay account. I got all of my pieces below retail.
@Frlja 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, these guys bough into huge stock and now they are trying to cut their loss, prior to end of 2022. imminent recession?
@BoogieMan568 2 жыл бұрын
A correction in prices are always a good thing😉what's up with the sunglasses indoors michael😊
@AASW320 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they were telling customers the watches were over priced when they paid 320k 🥴
@bataafeub2472 2 жыл бұрын
in the whole video the dont give a answer they just avoid the question. btw the watch markwt collapsted
@mkprivate7523 2 жыл бұрын
Good old Buffet said it best.... ¨Be fearful when others are greedy (= SELL) and greedy when others are fearful¨ (=BUY) Not there justttttt yet with watches, but indeed: if you ever wanted to go for a purchase; do it - knowing that your chances of seeing improving value increased 5x times since 6 months ago. In that sense watched are like stocks, only more fun:)
@johnelias9202 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Michael with Wristaficionado!!! They are professionals with integrity that don't have controversy or record like Time piece gentlemen!!
@alexistarr 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a video of an FBI drugs bust, where two or three expensively dressed gentlemen sit around a table in a hotel suite discussing a quantity of expensive merchandise. Fortunately for Michael expensive watches are not yet illegal...
@adrian9999 2 жыл бұрын
It is true about retailers holding the watches. I bought recently a Rolex from Goldsmith and was told I’ll have to wait over a year only to get a phone 2 weeks later saying that my watch has arrived. Also they do suggested to me that I need to buy some other stuff as well if I wanted the really “rare” watches. Just don’t pay the silly prices second hand
@simonward8350 2 жыл бұрын
Can i ask what watch you ordered i have an appointment with them about ordering a stainless 41mm datejust
@GuitarCoverErik Жыл бұрын
Had the same, they said it's worth 20k more on the grey market, so you have to buy 20k+ in jewels, after waiting 14 months or so, told them to fuck right off.
@paperlessdigs6169 2 жыл бұрын
Got into watches last month.Bought an Olevs and an invicta 42mm, Gold (36552) that looks like a Rolex,it's sold out on invicta website.Then I learned the Hulk Rolex collection hit the market which is on bonhams auction website.Every Hulk Rolex from 2010 to 2020.And even the Hulk 2 feet Statue.Min Bid is $29,000 for all of them each.The 2010 Hulk Rolex is $35,000 bid and the 2020 Hulk Rolex is $38,000 bid.The best watches keep time.This is far from what ProducerMichael buys but at least its a start for me and as long as those two watches keep time,i made a good choice.
@FBinTexasNate 2 жыл бұрын
Do not listen to grey market dealers about investment ever.
@viking6563 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet spot my backside, we are no where near the bottom these guy's need to realize most of these watches will be available in the AD'S very soon
@cjack202003 2 жыл бұрын
The GMT Master II, Batman, oyster bracelet, is still double the price on Jaztime. No buy for me. I don't care how long it takes, I'm not paying over retail. If I never get it, oh well.
@nawazbungshy2449 Жыл бұрын
The most big part that make me fan of Michael that his a men with big open heart and he like to make his fan happy just of doing his video.we can see many reality truth about all this big brand watch. He show us how he negotiate with all this big seller,and the bonus that he always figth discount for his fan on purchase .
@thisduderockz 2 жыл бұрын
michael: "i feel bad for the guy who bought it at 320 right? Eddie: who knew, who knew? apparently michael knew. because hes been questioning the meteoric rise on the prices since the beginning and always said its unsustainable. But Its in the best interests of any salesmen to inflate the idea of value which translates to cost so they can make more money. Sure, they may not dictate the costs directly because value is subjective and ultimately based on what someone is willing to pay. But they definitely exacerbated the huge jump/inflation on watches. Just like realestate agents do with houses. After you factor in supply and demand and comps, you can then set whatever price you think u can sell it for.
@dwyanebrentson2837 2 жыл бұрын
The only person who gains dealing with ( jewelry) is the crook that’s selling it
@BobbyDazzler888 2 жыл бұрын
The ad’s in Asia are crooks too. They are in on it. Trust me, i know.
@mayankkumar9270 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching Mr Michael's videos for long time First time I am seeing him repeating a shirt 😋
@Brandon-ct9nq 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Michael will always talk to Adam and always ask his opinion. Definitely a good boss to be around and pretty much can learn lot of things with him
@awsomguy5730 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is lookin energetic love watching you this way . And also the shirt looks really cool
@seekingthetruth3410 2 жыл бұрын
It's about time the market corrected
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@Gregsheppo66 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a GMT Batman at slightly above retail & have a Submariner coming at a similar price. I never would’ve spent the prices at the peak of the market.
@rolexer 2 жыл бұрын
Half off is still 75 percent too much.
@jeremykask5078 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you've noticed, but there's an odd clicking noise in this video. I do just really admire Micheal for the wealth of information these videos give
@estephanuse1 2 жыл бұрын
Watches have so much more room to fall it’s scary especially when home prices begin to severally decline no one in their right mind will be looking to buy a hunk of metal when they could scoop up cheap real estate
@wahabshariff1855 2 жыл бұрын
We are fortunate to have PM Micheal, we can watch all these beautiful watches.
@robertdouglas9345 2 жыл бұрын
Prices are still crazy! I for one do not believe the "correction" is over as of yet. Good luck, God Bless
@cococebrian5303 2 жыл бұрын
You should get the patek in rose gold, suits you very well😁
@adnanlatif1722 Жыл бұрын
Michael is quite unique himself
@andreix6385 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody on youtube is on this Rolex crash and I’m on Chrono 24 every day trying to buy a Sub Date for a decent price from a trusted seller, and in Europe, at least, you can t find one under 15k €…. When this crash is gonna hit Chrono 24 also?!
@PyROelementz 2 жыл бұрын
When the dealers will see that nobody is buying them at 15k. Then they'll drop to 13k and maybe sell a few, then people will stop buying again. Then they'll drop to 11-12 and so on. Just wait, and buy them at retail ( if things go real bad, you might even find some under retail, but at that point, I don't know if a 10k watch should be top priority ).
@superfast30 2 жыл бұрын
Many sheep lost their shirts as well as many dealers. Great news! People need to realize, very few modern watches can be considered investments. Most are are volatile are crypto. The true cause of the crash is that the prices were artificially inflated by dealers. Most were dealer to dealer trades with but marked as sold at some stupid number, only to see the same watch relisted a week later lol
@jtee9548 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help it, these watch videos are addictive, they've always been my favorite on your chan. I miss Seth being out of the mainstream, and loved the "Mr Wonderful" vids. Well done, more of these, please.
@Jivsyt 2 жыл бұрын
i still don’t get how rolex can make 800k-1mil watches a yr but u can’t get any at an AD
@paulwalker6103 2 жыл бұрын
When he said feel for the guy who paid 320k, and the other fella said who new who new. Not him directly but plenty of grey market dealers said you will never lose I will get your money back or make on it, not at any point did they say it could drop btw 120k. If they did they might not have paid 275k over retail.
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@addj7093 2 жыл бұрын
6 figures for a watch made out of a material you find in your kitchen and bathroom is crazy.
@Petie842 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of “it’s just the gully” from The Big Short. Everything will be fine, it’s not mid 2007 and these aren’t over priced assets that people cannot afford.
@Deezhan Жыл бұрын
Can you ask them next time if I should wait with buying my grail watch, Casio F-91W, or are the prices not going down any further?
@steveramirez5316 2 жыл бұрын
Omg this guy is scared to admit it might just be half way through the correction. Prices are 200% inflated and he thinks a 20% correction is the bottom . Lol sooo funny
@snapascrew 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to be able to buy the rolex I want at my AD and not wait 6 months….
@chrisburns143 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I sold my blue face sky a few months back at 29k, but I do miss it. Trying to get another one with jubilee band this time from my AD
@itsnowjoke1381 2 жыл бұрын
Great the Market has corrected long overdue
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@nanoflower1 2 жыл бұрын
I get what Rolex is doing but I do question how long they can continue. It's like Debeers and diamonds. They've got tons of diamonds in inventory but they limit the supply so the price stays high. Particularly with the market being the way it is Rolex doesn't want to release a large number of watches to the market as it would only further lower the market so they limit the supply and help maintain their price. Also the limited supply helps maintain the desirability of a Rolex (at least so far.) Will it remain that way forever? No one knows.
@ifjfgvjfidifijf 2 жыл бұрын
These 2 guys looks stressed. Creditors must have been on their asses loll
@larsstougaard7097 2 жыл бұрын
Jossi want his money back
@jackteton6856 2 жыл бұрын
Prices will continue to drop for another 2-3 years. Soon you will be able to get into AD and buy want you want without humiliting waiting lists.
@rainmaster2936 2 жыл бұрын
funny how he keeps sayin correction correction when these watches were super over priced. retail 40k and selling for 150k ? come on.
@stephen9609 2 жыл бұрын
If you can buy retail from Rolex/AP/Patek, you will generally maintain value or have appreciation over time. If you’re buying over retail price there is no historical precedent to say they will hold value or go up. All of this 3x or 4x retail prices were ridiculous
@super1234567891011 2 жыл бұрын
A depreciating asset (like 99% of watches) is not something you should finance unless you have an established sales network or ability to flip a watch very quickly.
@dellwright1407 2 жыл бұрын
What about if you just like the watch and want to wear it?
@houseofsharpeis9366 2 жыл бұрын
They are holding pieces so they can adjust the pricing when the markets turns around.
@ralBurebsuos 2 ай бұрын
This is a great lesson. I've made 50% in 3 months ($2M), and I've also lost 50% in 3 months while investing on the same principles. It's an educated gambling game
@ffdv7458 2 жыл бұрын
Prices should be less than retail, my first rolex cost £3000 new, sold for £2000 a few years later. 300% over retail AFTER a fall is still crazy. Tulips.
@larsstougaard7097 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@davidolgard6288 2 жыл бұрын
Love your your KZfaq channel ! Learned and been inspired of your content! Keep it up!
@patopaiar8895 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tested the accuracy of your watches collection with a timegrapher ??
@awn7775 2 жыл бұрын
Always great to get a good, informative dose of luxury watch news from our team Producer Michael and Adam 🤝
@bentleygt3716 2 жыл бұрын
we haven't seen the worst yet. and i wouldn't be surprised to see these watches selling below retail in the near future. thanks Michael. you're da man.
@anthonyjackson31 2 жыл бұрын
A 50% drop…. I’d call that a collapse lol. :) Great episode Michael!
@MrEptor 2 жыл бұрын
did you also noticed how they rephrased the word used watch to pre-owned? 🤣
@anthonyjackson31 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrEptor yaaaa sounds like they sell watches that’s for sure haha
@MM180.9 2 жыл бұрын
When every move you make is designed to make sure you look cooler and better than your neighbor then you're wasting your life
@tylerl4048 2 жыл бұрын
Not acknowledging the MB&F is a crime... it's an acquired taste, sure, but surely worth more than a massing mention of the company when one is sitting on the table
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@R.N.19 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't afford 50% on either AP or Patek🤣
@krystiansieminski8060 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, watches are same like crypt-o currency $$$, same for classic cars and furniture and yachts, I personally would not buy a 100 000$ watch if it would not slow down the time.TH
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