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@gavriushka9 ай бұрын
The only thing I can say is that all the industry needs to take a very close look at what Marantz is doing. They’re listening, and they also are delivering. Two things most brands fail at one or the other or even both (looking at you Rotel). Bravo Marantz. And I probably would still go with Stereo 70 vs Cinema70, but that’s just me. It feels like a damn good and versatile product. Great video and conversation as usual! Hope everyone is having a lovely Sunday and happy Veterans Day, thank you to all those who served and serve still.
@rjmoyer29 ай бұрын
I’m not sure why this is a powered vs passive tv discussion. I feel like it should be a stereo receiver vs integrated amp discussion.
@TD05SSLegacy9 ай бұрын
Confused me too
@baronvonaux82949 ай бұрын
Yep, 100%
@filipepaninho65589 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@mrkitewine77009 ай бұрын
Yep, nothing to do with active speakers. It is a stereo receiver and should have been reviewed as such
@ruudduppen9 ай бұрын
Agree. I have active speakers for the sound quality primarily.
@harisjaved13799 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew. You should do a video on your home. Your audio room looks pretty nice and I would like to see how you decorated the house to get some ideas. Thanks for the review!
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
It's coming...
@LeezahB9 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Yay!
@LeezahB9 ай бұрын
This seems to be a very fun piece of equipment. Still so happy with my 40N, thanks to you!🥰
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
It's like a baby 40n. The 40n is still the king when you want connectivity AND a more hi-fi or audiophile-grade sound.
@LeezahB9 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews so glad you mentioned the 40N in your review! Since I bought the 40N for listening only in the living room, I am so glad you mentioned the Cinema 70 at the end of your review. I think that is would I would have gravitated to if it were to go into my HT space. It just gives more options! Thanks again for your always thoughtful reviews and especially the conversations with Kristi!!❤️🥰❤️
@UnderMyThumb9 ай бұрын
Great review! I have the exact combination of a Marantz 70s and Lumina 2s for my bedroom setup. I have it connected to my Ps5 going into my LG C2. For my sub, I have the Rel tzero connected. All I can say is wow! This is the quintessential setup for parents who want to enjoy a good movie, play a game, or listen to music in their room after their kids go to bed. In my main room I have a Marantz 7015 with B&Ws and a 15 inch Rythmik sub. You can guess how many times I've been able to use that system since my toddler and infant came into my life. I love it but we can never use it to it's full potential. Having this Marantz 70s has given me an opportunity to enjoy my music like I once did. The lumina 2s are a perfect pairing and even my wife has now become an audiophile because of how fun it is to listen to music again. However!! I will say I took a serious pause before purchasing the Marantz 70s since the day before Amazon had the Cinema 70 for $999, a dollar cheaper than the stereo 70. Luckily I waited a day and the price went back to normal the next day making my decision easier. But with both units being the same price, it really gave me pause considering I wanted the cinema room correction. It really is a miss that the stereo 70 doesn't have basic correction. I'm sure Amazon will discount the cinema 70 again for the holidays so be aware. For me and my use, I don't want the surround so stereo 70 was the right choice. One last thing, Kristi is correct in that people will compare this to a soundbar. I considered this against the Samsung 900 series and while I appreciate the flexibility of the soundbar, you just can't compare the sound quality of the Marantz. I chose the Marantz for two reasons: hdmi connectivity (I find arc troublesome and didn't want to deal with it if I choose a soundbar) and the ability to choose better sounding speakers. Thanks again for your recommendations. You guys steered me to the lumina 2s and I'm grateful! Amazing speakers!
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
I cannot say enough good things about the Stereo 70/Lumina II setup! Glad I'm not alone. Thanks for watching and for sharing your firsthand experience!
@tobiaxelsson9 ай бұрын
If you have more than one thing to plug into active speakers, then I'd easily go the marantz way. I also like that they went 2 channel for us that prefer that over multiple speakers (been there and went back to 2 channel). Also great review, thanks for testing a bit more "odd" products (odd as in a 2ch receiver)! :)
@fascinatedbyeverything9 ай бұрын
Andrew, you need to tell these OEMs to put room correction in 2 channel products, even if it's just Audessey. That's why I would go with the Cinema 70s over the Stereo 70s. Even the most basic room correction will set your sub distance for you, including DSP delay. Also with the Audessey app you can limit the correction to 500 hz if you choose. IMO, room correction is the number 1 reason to go with an AVR over a 2 channel integrated.
@aronwhitesell94279 ай бұрын
The Anthem STR integrated amp has room correction, but it costs $5,000. I own one, and it's great. Sounds wonderful with my Polk L600s.
@filipepaninho65589 ай бұрын
NAD has it, Lyngdorf has it, but 3X this price!
@fascinatedbyeverything9 ай бұрын
I know that there are solutions that have it. But if a $1000 surround receiver can have it so should more $1000 2 channel gear.
@hilldog34509 ай бұрын
Love the review as always. Two differentiators are that the stereo 70s employs HDAM’s where the cinema 70 does not. Also if having 2 pairs of stereo speakers and A/B-ing them is important, again the stereo 70s will allow this while the cinema70 will not
@amb3cog9 ай бұрын
It's not for me personally. But for $1000, that's one heck of a unit. And I think it would more than satisfy the majority of people. Plus it's a looker too. Good job Marantz. ✌️
@Bob-hq5lj9 ай бұрын
Gonna make a second cup of coffee and enjoy another Sunday of watching one of your reviews ☕️
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
YAY! Thanks!
@Zoranurai139 ай бұрын
Seems like a fantastic upgrade to my NR1200 if i decide to upgrade it
@user-ej3ii8zm2b9 ай бұрын
Yeah back to the two-channel stuff! Another pleasant Sunday morning Andrew and Kristi.
@BryanRuby9 ай бұрын
Good discussion on the STEREO 70 vs CINEMA 70. I think one of the reasons people would buy a stereo over an multi-channel AVR is a mindset for some that they like the idea of a simpler front speakers without the mess of side or rear speakers. I'm one of those people. My upstairs living room is a 3.0 setup and for a long time I felt using my 5.1.2 AVR for this purpose were wasted channels. Then I remembered I could Bi-Amp and actually noticed a slight improvement coming from my speakers. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't go stereo only and agree with Andrew you do need to consider whether you want more options or not in your setup when deciding between the STEREO 70 and the CINEMA 70.
@Boxkerp9 ай бұрын
Kristy said what was in my head the entire video, what would be the benefit over the cinema 70. Outside of power. If it was half the price or significantly less in cost, It would make more sense. Originally, I wanted this, because I was going with a 2-channel system in my living room using a NR1200 but because of the way living room is set up, the phantom center doesn’t work well. (Plus, my tower speaker sits in the Christmas tree spot) so I bought a passive soundbar speaker that’s under my tv. With the cinema 70 I can do 3.1 setup, and have everything that the stereo 70 has, put other options should I choose to go another route. I did consider the stereo 70 in my 2-channel room where I have my PS5 and Series X connected to my tv. I mostly listen to music but my McIntosh doesn’t have hdmi arc, but it does have HT bypass so the ST-70 could work there. In the end, bought a node with hdmi arc. The node has arc volume control via coaxial outs and cost less. As for the cinema 70 disrupting the powered speaker market. I’m not sure the size of the market. I know people with soundbars but no one with powered speakers. However, it’s not I know a lot of people. In any case, I always thought passive soundbars with receivers similar to the St-70 would be the dominant market due to flexibility with connections and central wiring. But I also thought the that Samsung tv’s one connect box would transition to all TV’s. Clearly, I know nothing about market design. I think Anthem is coming out with a home theater A/C that’s small and thin enough to hide behind a tv or cabinet. It’s only 5.1 but sounds interesting
@stuartboros76939 ай бұрын
Does the Stereo70, when streaming a film in 5.1, automatically downmix to two channel when used in a 2.1 setup via the HDMI connection (or does the TV’s digital output have to be switched to 2 channel pcm)? If a service such as Netflix allows you to switch from surround to 2 channel, I’ve noticed the sound is better than when the TV performs the downmix.
@ceecee130x9 ай бұрын
Of course we HAVE to totally agree with Kristi. In all seriousness, I don't feel that the majority of consumers walk into the store knowing the nuanced implications of going either of these routes down the road. They're often subject to trends and salesmanship (aka profit margins). Each setup will work well if you know what is important to you and choose wisely. Same reason why some people enjoy their integrateds while others their separates. Each to his/her own in the pursuit of the desired sound.
@lukamlinar6 ай бұрын
What made the NR1200 amazing is that you get a music stereo amplifier that works with HDMI ARC and has bass and treble controls. Every other brand misses the point. I don't want 10 speakers in my house and I don't want two amps (one for my TV and one for my record player). Not to mention having to go inside a menu to change the bass or treble. I mean how hard is it to put ARC and two knobs on a stereo amp?
@tritiumglo46998 ай бұрын
Updated NR1200 with a stiffer price tag. I could be very happy with this as a preamp. I do wish it had a high pass filter.
@thomasbroadcast9199 ай бұрын
Rotel has released the new RAS-5000. A streaming integrated amplifier and HDMI with e-ARC function. I can't wait to see your video guys 🙂
@ChrisGramer9 ай бұрын
Is the Stereo 70s using the same internals as the Denon DRA-900H? Specs seem the same. Would also be interested in how the Stereo 70s compares with the Bluesound POWERNODE.
@dawaynecleckley86739 ай бұрын
Andrew and Kristi, thanks for being part of my daily digital lifestyle! This was a fun review. I used to be big on home theater, but my tastes have changed to being more of a two channel guy. And, I'm not sure I'm ready for soundbars, etc. So I am leaning towards Andrew's theory. Sorry Kristi 😄. However, I feel that Andrew's theory rest solely on how Marantz positions and messages this product in the market - and - what other manufacturers might do to follow them. Sorry for the caveat Andrew 😅.
@KristiWright9 ай бұрын
🤩Thanks for joining us, DaWayne!
@warrensparkes12239 ай бұрын
great review!!!!! Walked the DC audio fest Friday......listened to room after room of $$$$$$ systems.........came home......plugged in a vintage Onkyo a 7070 (thanks JUST AUDIO) to a pair of ELAC bookshelf speakers.....proved it doesn't take much create a satisfying system. the ELAC connex were set up in there room....filled the room quite nicely......they were leading with that set up......going on sale today 399.00 a pair Caladens were interesting
@stevemasonwilder97 ай бұрын
After using a Marantz AV receiver Audyssey with room correction I can’t imagine going back to one without it, even in a two channel setup. The Stereo 70 might have lots of features and benefit from Denon-like interface but without room correction I doubt it’s worth the savings compared to the Cinema 70 or other Marantz “AV” receivers. Thanks for making sure that the fact that it doesn’t include room correction clear, but I think that it really needs more attention.
@maxpower78-159 ай бұрын
Awesome. Love marantz. Late to the party. Had to get the trout seasoned and the grill started! Happy Sunday!!!
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Better late than never, plus seasoning the trout is likely more important.
@maxpower78-159 ай бұрын
Yeah mom was comin over. Had to be perfect
@Tlevy29 ай бұрын
What's the difference between this and the NR1200?
@isaacsykes39 ай бұрын
I love Kristi, but I definitely agree with you, Andrew. The Stereo 70 is going to be a problem even with speakers that might be hard to drive , as I'm not sure Kristi is giving much thought about how valuable people craving power appreciate active preouts. Add to that the HDMI inputs, and I feel that the only thing Marantz could have and still SHOULD do is make the Stereo 70 and Cinema70, a dual mono, fully discrete, fully balanced design. At which point you'd have a "Hometheater-phile" product, which I feel would leave a lot of companies scrambling and pulling their proverbial hair out. Then you could offer them some KEEPS products. 😅
@macklittleton19365 ай бұрын
I feel like the Stereo 70s is more or less the new version of the Marantz NR1200. I've watched your review of the NR1200 and you didn't seem too thrilled about it. I wish you had brought it up in this video review to highlight the differences between the two. While I've no doubt the Stereo 70 is probably much better, the NR1200 is currently $399 on closeout everywhere so I picked one up for a modest bedroom setup I'm building with some Klipsch RP600m's. I'm not expecting to be blown away by any means but curious how this would have compared should I have chosen to save my pennies and gone with the Stereo 70. Great review as always guys and props to Christy for getting additional info to compare the Stereo 70s to the Model 40n :)
@rklmbd29345 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comment. I came here hoping to see just that comparison so you have saved me 20 minutes. I actually thought he quite liked the NR 1200, in fact I went out and bought one not long after. I am very satisfied, it is in fact a PM6006 pure audio amp with a video board piggybacked on to it and NOT a multimedia receiver amp being pressed into audio service. Therefore it is properly musical and the onboard DAC is excellent although I would say the MM phono pre-amp is not. On paper the Stereo 70 appears to offer no change. Where the 70 is different seems to be in the updated video/HDMI board (now offering 8K etc). The NR 1200 was listed at $690 at the time but often available for $590 which is what I paid. The Stereo 70 at $1000 is therefore not a compelling upgrade. Edit: Just want to add that although I haven't heard them together I think the RP600m should be an excellent choice. If you are familiar with the term "British sound" I find Klipsch have a very American sound. Its rich and deep but thanks to the horns quite forward and lively. They should liven up the slightly relaxed sounding Marantz.
@larryh95259 ай бұрын
KEF dropped the price of the LS50W2 to $2K for the holidays, which is a clear win for anyone looking for an excellent-sounding system. Actually, if you're looking at the pair of LS50Meta (passive) for $400 more you can get an amp, streamer, and a DAC. So, I agree with Kristi, the Marantz is for a different customer.
@TD402dd8 ай бұрын
Marantz has made excellent equipment going back to the Model 60, and later the 2270 stereo. The only surround receiver I've ever owned is the giant Marantz with 90 watts x 7 output. It's old, but my movies sound wonderful. I did move my center to an Emotiva 150 watts/channel for my giant front speakers. Sadly the future brought about a Cambridge receiver for my corner system. My main system has an Emotiva pre and Emotiva 125 watt amp. Marantz is too expensive for me now, but I never question the quality.
@ojvera769 ай бұрын
Earlier this year I bought the KEF R3 initially for a stereo system connected to my TV, so I was looking into a stereo receiver with HDMI inputs, for which there are limited options out there. I saw some older models from Denon (DRA-800H) and Marantz (NR1200) and was not convinced until this new Marantz line came out. I jumped into the Cinema 70s because of the slim form factor and the advantage of having pre outs in case I needed more power. But then there was a discount on the Cinema 60, for just around 100 Eur more than the 70s. And that was it, I started my system with the R3 and the Cinema 60. Few weeks later I felt I was lacking on the movie/TV dialogues, no matter how great the "phantom" center produced by the R3 is and no matter how enhanced I was setting the dialogue option on the Marantz. Then I decided to get one of the last R2C center units while they were on sale. Then, my point is that what I initially considered turned out to be away from what I ended up getting. Happily I decided to get the Cinema 60 instead, so I have more flexibility. This Stereo 70s is a nice option with probably no competitors out there, but, be mindful of your future needs.
@musiclassica9 ай бұрын
Did you enjoy the C70? In Europe they’re lowered a lot in price. Initially $1,000, now $750.
@ojvera769 ай бұрын
@@musiclassica I did not test the Cinema 70, went directly to the 60. And I am enjoying it. I am having some difficulties with the HDMi settings though. I don't usually turn on the Marantz, so I want it to be manually turned on by myself... It is connected to my Oppo BluRay player, a Google Chromecast and the Cable TV Box, all signaling to my LG Oled TV. The Chromecast, when turned on it also turns on the Marantz which I don't want. I had some settings working before but recently I changed things and messed with it. Now I don't know the proper settings combination. In the near future I will probably buy a small Sub, something like the SVS 3000 Micro, but first I want to do some room treatment. I want to put some vertical wood panels on the wall just like those on Andrew's room. Other than that, happy with the 60.
@scottmackenzie66999 ай бұрын
I see this Marantz as a product for a long term small apartment dweller where a jack of all trades receiver makes sense. Which is the definition of a niche market. But I think I side with Kristi on the premise. The lifestyle images of a clutter - less powered speaker setup is what helps the powered speaker sell. A traditional receiver form factor even if this Marantz breaks the mold with a gamut of connections does not inspire a more modern, clutter less lifestyle. Marantz would need to bombard the advertising channels with images that say otherwise in order for the Stereo 70s to torpedo the powered speaker market. Your review certainly opens up some eyes though and I greatly appreciate it. Enjoy your Sunday!
@lukemcdo9 ай бұрын
Most people aren't mounting their TV in an apartment though, so plugging direct into a TV is more acceptable there.
@scottmackenzie66999 ай бұрын
@@lukemcdopoint well taken
@earlyetman55889 ай бұрын
The amplifier section of this is nothing like the PM6007, PM8006, PM40n, PM7000n, it is weaker. Just take a look inside, see the difference. The stamped heat sinks are a great clue.
@mr.potatofries80948 ай бұрын
Could you tell me more I’m cross shopping this or the pm7000n are you saying the 7000 is the far better choice?
@sammy100019 ай бұрын
1000 is a bit much. Id spend the extra 300$ and get an onkyo rz50. Then you get dirac live as well. Dirac license itself is $300 so technically rz50 and this marantz is the same price. Onkyo you get 7.X.4 capability, over 100 watts of power, excellent stereo sound. Even if you only use 2 speakers , i think onkyo is still better
@tonepilot9 ай бұрын
If you’re into vinyl, the Stereo 79S makes more sense due to its great phono pre-amp. I’m happy with my choice, I’m never going back to surround sound. Too much hassle. The bonus with the Stereo 70s is dedicated external tone controls.
@maxpower78-159 ай бұрын
Ive said it before. When my marantz home theater preamp died a month before the warranty ended, they not only sent me a new unit, but it was the newer model. (Which i couldnt really afford nowadays).
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
That's customer service!
@user-ej3ii8zm2b9 ай бұрын
Thanks! "Back in the day" I believe technically a "receiver" had a tuner built in vs an integrated amp but I assume today having built in streaming qualifies, especially with the ability to stream radio from all over the world. I'm totally with you on the added flexibility of the receiver/speaker combo vs wireless speaker systems, especially when that "wireless" still involves running power cables to each speaker. Keep the 2-channel stuff coming LOL!
@KristiWright9 ай бұрын
Thank you for supporting the channel.
@petriblomqvist38389 ай бұрын
It does also have a tuner built in.
@Atlasworkinprogress9 ай бұрын
It has an FM and AM tuner.
@Rudi-Mhz6 ай бұрын
At last it is a question of getting it and how it fits with your other Stereo Setup. The Marantz is not my Amp ,cause i prefer Aluminium at the Front. My Dealer had a Denon dra900h .....the brother of the 70s. What should i say......it is my best Deal for Years. Even my Speakers, Vintage Canton Karat 60 and Monitor Audio 200 apear more round and smooth in Sound. And.. the dra900h is stronger, 100Watt at 8 Ohm per Chanel !
@MrRocktuga9 ай бұрын
No room correction? Another missed opportunity, since most signals that it amplifies (if not all) all already in the digital domain. Still stuck in the last century, except for the HDMI input. 😉
@bpalpha9 ай бұрын
Happy to see Marantz building full sized components still. Nice piece. Fair price on this.
@stelioskritikakis9 ай бұрын
The main reason to buy active speaker for me is the clutter. Secondly the amp-speaker matching which might be a nightmare by buying separates. So i'm with Kristi, the active speaker market doesn't afraid of this product.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Fair enough. Appreciate you watching!
@stelioskritikakis9 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews keep up the good work!
@twooger9 ай бұрын
Maybe it was late when I was watching this review, but I realised half way through that Cinema 70 and Stereo 70 are two different products 😅 Anyhow, I'm with Kristi on this one, don't see it as direct competition to powered speakers 🤷
@jorgeluisfernandez25606 ай бұрын
Between this marantz and denon 900h which you think is better for a 2.1 channel for music? Thanks
@Harry-Giles9 ай бұрын
Always fun every Sunday. Thanks.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@konradjohnson8705Ай бұрын
So I can say after buying our home and then realizing I was going to be compromised when it came to the space for our bedroom. This is probably what I'm going with to run a great stereo/home theater system. Having 8k upscaling and a good power output I'm excited to build my system around this unit.
@Sarge_729 ай бұрын
Great vid as always - I tend to side with Kristy on this…. Powered speakers folks are looking for more simplicity and don’t want the traditional ‘box’ Example is my own dad. He’s a hifi guy from way back and he recently went with a pair of Sonos 5s to replace some 30 yr old KLFs that finally had seen their day. Cleaned up his whole experience and while he still has over 3k LPs & 2k CDs, he streams 85% of the time.
@scruffy88619 ай бұрын
If i was on a budget i'd look at the Marantz NR1510 at $400 less. That said, if not on a budget and focusing on 2 channel performance, love the Luxman L-550AXII with meters. 😉
@bvanbiezen30082 күн бұрын
Was last looking for a replacement for my Sansui SAP201, at the Marantz Stereo 70s, and at 700 euro it looks like a good candidate. The Sansui doesn’t have HDMI, a thing that bites me a little bit in the ass nowadays. I don’t care for surround sound. Pure 2 Channel with the possibility for a sub. Thanks for the review.
@Rutgerdrum7 ай бұрын
Andrew, Love your video's! i'm in the market for a Cinema 70 or Stereo 70. I was wondering, what produces the best dound quality for music? Like.. initially i'm more interested in the Stereo, but maybe in the future a 5.1 setup will be there again, and yes, still open for the aditional amp. But what would be best for stereo music now? or would you think there is not much of a difference. Currently have BW707S2 speakers.
@user-dr7kh4pp4u9 ай бұрын
Great review and thank you so much for giving true impression on new marantz products! I'm on the fence between stereo 70 and cinema 70. All the features difference is completely clear. I'm still missing your thoughts how do they differ sonically in 2.0/2.1 setup, especially taking into account marantz claims using Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Modules in Stereo 70.
@ramondelgado67789 ай бұрын
Awesome review! I'm a two channel guy, so this unit is on my list as i don't have hard to drive soeakers (wharfedale diamond 11.2). Is this better than the previous model NR1200 which is going for $450 ish right now with same power rating?
@maxpower78-159 ай бұрын
Still looking to upgrade my preamp for the upstairs stereo. I love exploring options. What i have works fine and sounds fine. Cant wait to figure this out
@davidcarter91569 ай бұрын
Thanks for another fun and fact filled video ! I have a soft spot for Marantz from back in the 70s when I had a 2365. I believe and I loved it! I haven’t had a Marantz in years and several years ago’s got back into the home theater as I decided on a Marantz 5.2 ,integrated now just 2channel amp , and while waiting for a new unison Unicor 90 I put this Marantz PM5005 @ 40 watts rms x2 integrated was in my system. And oh my ! It’s a solid sound of Marantz so even a smaller cheaper is amplifier It still sounds good no matter what is situation in my humble opinion
@user-ps6kt7eh2m9 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic product. Had it for a few months. This is more of a killer to AV receivers than it is to powered speakers. Truly has EVERYTHING the good AV receivers has minus the surround amplification. More and more people are not investing in 5 to 11 speakers. This is the product that is long over do. I bought an outboard amp because my towers needed more power but if you have no interest in surround sound and are going to drive book shelves then stereo 70 is obvious choice. Cinema 70 power too low. It will work with movies at 50 watts but for music not enough unless you have really easy to drive speakers. Great review andrew! I was waiting to hear your opinion on this. Thx!
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and I thank you for sharing your personal experience with the product as well!
@TakeWhatUCan9 ай бұрын
Great review! Bought this receiver with Foundation F2. HDMI connectivity is what I needed with stereo setup. Sounds great!
@jaredkilgore71948 ай бұрын
In terms of the demographic buying something like this product; I think that this product would be welcomed by customers looking for a traditional stereo setup with two speakers and possibly with one sub, that is used to rigging up a USB DAC to their phones as an analog input to their current preamp/amp setup, which is also used in tandem with their CD player and possibly phono. Consolidating this into one unit as opposed to buying a streamer or even those with a streamer as a separate component from their preamp/amp set-up would benefit from consolidating components into one centralized unit that can do it all (in terms of what I just describe anyhow) minus MQA rendering. Of course this is strictly that demographic that is only looking for two channel stereo audio playback. Being that there are eight HDMI connections and having an Arc capable HDMI, this further adds to that demographic to those looking to have a centralized device with their living room setup with their TV in mind. I do not see this demographic already not having a couple speakers in mind already and an existing setup with multiple components working together already. Possibly someone looking into getting into this hobby that is being diligent in looking at all the options and coming to the conclusion in a similar fashion with consolidated components in terms of functionality and value. I'm sure there are plenty of demographics out there for this product but I am just thinking about the ones that would be marketed toward this product. I like the fact that Marantz's engineers have stayed true to that warm sound they are known for without compromising their quality of sound. No it's not a valve amp but I really wish that they would make a comeback in a way where the supply demand worked out to a much greater value where it's potential really lies when it comes to tube amplifiers but, we'll probably never get there unfortunately. Going off on a tangent here so I'll stop. I think I may buy this product myself and I really hope that the 75 watt rating at 8 ohms is conservative rather than liberal like a lot of manufacturers do with their marketing these days.
@jo05dk9 ай бұрын
To me, an owner of a set of Dynaudio active speakers (for my PC), there is a LONG way from a good set of active speakers, to a soundbar or some sad tiny Sonos thingies. I'm with Andrew here. The choice is between active speakers, and a setup using some sort of sound giver, and a set of speakers. Personally i've only considered the active Buchardts, the A500 i think they're called, for a main setup. Otherwise i'm always looking at seperate units, not in the least because of upgradebility, and convenience if something breaks. The one time i thought my Dynaudios were defective i started sweating. Borrowing a set of speakers or some amp, is a lot easier than having to build an entire system because you all in one goes away for repair.
@veaseyrАй бұрын
Andrew and Kristy thank you so much for your reviews. I have an old Denon 3802 RSV. I love how this thing sounds with all its power. I moved it out of my Media / Music room because it has no modern video media inputs. I am considering upgrading to the Cinema 70s because of your review. My late 1980s JBL towers which I love have a sensitivity of 91 at 6 ohms 1/5/8/12 inch. After your review, I want to use the Denon 3802 as an amp (Pre IN) to drive my JBL L7 front with its 100-watt per channel on all 7 amps. I love the sound of the JBL L7s, but they tend to get a little bright. I do drive these speakers at 65-75 DB at times on an inexpensive Costco Yamaha RSV at the moment. I would move the Yamaha to my computer room with the Bose 601 Series III speakers. My musical taste is all over the place, (Big Band, Pop, Soft Rock, Jazz Fusion, R&B, and some classical). I also use Schitts DAC and a headphone amp with HiFiMan headphones. Do you think this would be a good setup (Denon 3802 and Cenima 70S together).
@woodywoodpick9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your quality work. I actually tested the Marantz Model 40n you mentioned and liked it a lot. You explain that the Stereo 70s is better built, sounds better, and is more refined, but it's 2.5 times more expensive. The Stereo 70s is less expensive and less bulky, which are advantages, but how much inferior is it? Compared to the demanding KEF LS50 Meta speakers, do you recommend the 40n, the 70s, or are both good choices for driving these speakers?"
@ramondelgado67789 ай бұрын
The 40N is WAY more amplifier than the stereo 70. The 40N has a big toroidal transformer, thick aluminum heat sink and much bigger power capacitors. It is 4 ohm rated and very stable playing there. They possibly may sound somewhat similar with less expensive, easy to drive speakers, and at lower volumes. Now the stereo 70 with a two channel external amp like the Emotiva Basx-A2 is a much closer match at 1500 for both vs the 2500 40N. That route makes sense.
@PhillioDoede9 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see that much HDMI support on a two channel amp (receiver). I use my two channel system for everything but really only scrutinize when it comes to music so I really have no interest in surround sound so this is right up my ally even though I'm not sure I really 'need' all the HDMI switching this has its a very forward thinking idea. Very cool product from Marantz and I'm kinda surprised by the price.
@maslan0019 ай бұрын
Bought the Marantz NR1609 back then for around $500, the pre-out as main selling point for an easy/cheap stereo/surround setup, have only surround speakers and subwoofer connected to it, in my small room very nice surround effects, was really pleasantly surprised with Netflix in Dolby Digital+, all series/movies are so much more involving. Would probably buy this one, once i upgrade my television for 120Hz version.
@mackie10019 ай бұрын
The Cinema 70s is £200 cheaper than the Stereo 70 in the UK but I was still considering the Stereo. I think you just helped my make my mind up given what you said at the end. Thanks for your insight.
@ramondelgado67789 ай бұрын
Two channel guy mostly and concerned more about sound quality in two channels, for sure the Stereo 70. Also a two channel home theater with a sub is AWESOME!!!!
@mackie10019 ай бұрын
@@ramondelgado6778 I might give it a try once the price comes down a little. The system will be a pair of MA Silver 100s with an SVS 3000 Micro. Can't wait to put it all together in the new house!
@johnlynch62488 ай бұрын
@@mackie1001You will Love your MA’s. I have owned so many various gold’s over the years. Gold’s are more $ because they are made in England and cabinet finish. I would get silver’s without hesitation. Enjoy, you have the best!
@caioferrari9 ай бұрын
A powered speaker has internal DAC to correct its frequency response flaws. A Cinema 70 has Audissey and dynamic eq that is useful to watch movies at low volumes and still have bass. It has built in bass management too. For me, Stereo 70 is a pointless product. Thanks for reviewing it.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lehsu9 ай бұрын
Since this is intended for TV also, why can’t they include a center channel speaker out?
@bobelle20469 ай бұрын
I don't think products like the stereo 70 will overtake wireless speakers. So Kristi is correct. I think you left one important feature out of the cinema 70 in your comparison. The cinema 70 has room correction, that could make a bigger difference in the sound quality especially when using a sub.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
I didn’t leave the Cinema 70 out. You have to watch the whole video 😉
@bobelle20469 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I did watch the video. I said you left out room correction as a feature on the cinema 70 when doing your comparison. I think that could be an important feature for some.
@creed76069 ай бұрын
4:27
@bobelle20469 ай бұрын
I saw that, I know he mentioned no room correction. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was referring to when Kristi asked about the Stereo 70 vs Cinema 70 and why one might consider one over the other. I think room correction is one possible reason for choosing the Cinema 70 over this one. That comparison starts at about 18:30.
@urka-off-world-adventures9 ай бұрын
I was in the market for a Bluesound Powernode when I saw that marantz was going to offer this to the market for the same price. The benefit to me would be the extra connectivity. In your opinion, would you still go with the Stereo 70 with a sub woofer or the powernode with a sub woofer?
@tonepilot9 ай бұрын
I just got this unit when I couldn’t get the 1200NR. It sounds very good. I only play vinyl and HEOS through it. It’s connected to 2 x 10” Klipsch subs and two Klipsch Ref II tower speakers. I also connected a cheap 13” TV so I could see album art when streaming and for easier setup. I do find I have to turn the volume up higher (around 65) compared to my 150W Sony to get the same volume levels. But, the sound quality is so much better I don’t mind. Maybe I’ll look at that Emotiva amp. Cheers
@JeffHeon9 ай бұрын
In theory, I'm team powered speakers for less clutter and ease of use with HDMI Arc. But... they usually don't compare to separate in terms of warranty. Something like the Marantz Stereo 70s and a pair of Monitor Audio Silver 100 7g is covered by a 5 year warranty. Powered speakers are usually around 2 year warranty, at least for the electronics. I budget for audio gear as a yearly rent and I ruthlessly divide the cost by the warranty length. If it lasts more than the warranty, it's bonus! It's pessimistic, but I can actually afford costlier systems that way when warranty is good!
@jim0101099 ай бұрын
I've had the whole home theater thing for years. I've went back to less boxes and going for just stereo. The flexibility in a stereo receiver or a pre amp negates the power speaker option, for me anyway.
@arekbartkowiak10049 ай бұрын
Is there any sonic difference between cinema70 and stereo70 in stereo? In Europe Cinema70 costs 680€ and Steeeo costs 1000€. Marantz "marketing" says that there are better components in Stereo unit.
@KristiWright9 ай бұрын
18:33 WHAT'S THE SMARTER BUY? STEREO 70 vs CINEMA 70
@improvedgarage9 ай бұрын
Watched the whole thing before commenting ;) I use and enjoy factor as well, congrats on the sponsorship Powered speakers have their merits, i really like my dynaudio LYDs for example, the power amp is perfectly matched and they sound incredible. They have their place, like on a computer desk. The shortcomings are always in connectivity, and cable management. For example I cant connect a hdmi source to my powered speakers, and you cant really put an XLR cable or C13 style power cable through most speaker stands. When you take the connectivity issues and then consider that many powered speakers still need some sort of preamp for volume control, something like the cambridge axr100, the 6000a or this marantz start to make alot more sense, because you get more choices in speakers, its easier to upgrade in time, and you're taking up the same footprint compared to powered + Pre. Im using a Rotel A11 with a pair of q acoustics bookshelves and a fluance turntable as a small listening area in my house where the wife and i enjoy some vinyl, this is where something like the stereo 70 shines, its aesthetically pleasing, easy to use, has a remote control, etc. Im interested in trying an audiolab, the AXR100 and this new marantz in the future.
@TokeBoisen9 ай бұрын
I feel most if not all receiver manufacturers are either working on or missing the boat on making mid-level surround prepros for the influx of active speakers that's been coming out the last five years. Sure they all have high-end processors and mid-level AVRs today have pre-outs, but then you have several amplifiers sitting idle and basically waste. On the other end of the spectrum we have systems like System Audios Silverback surround hub and the like that are also very upscale and to truly wireless. A 9.2 processor for less than $2k that allows a customer to use active, bi-amped and internally DSP'ed speakers (which for me are THE key selling points for active speakers today) would be a way to stay relevant in a market which IS shifting more towards active speakers
@dirtymotley90489 ай бұрын
Dropping a like for you guys great content again my friends
@KristiWright9 ай бұрын
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@michel78789 ай бұрын
Thank you guys! Was waiting for the comparisom to its predecessor, the NR1200...
@jaredhylton65919 ай бұрын
Yes, and Andrew did review the NR1200 a while back.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
We no longer have the NR1200 so I was unable to make a direct A/B comparison. I didn't want to guess as to how they compared given that it's been years since I last listened to the NR1200.
@caioferrari9 ай бұрын
Don't expect too much difference. It's pretty hard to listen diferences between same class amps. Between two products from the same company and the same pricepoint its almost impossible
@bchunter19689 ай бұрын
Rather than stereo, wish this were a 3.1 (for center) with Audyssey and/or Dirac. Three-channel makes more sense with the HDMI inputs. It’s nice, but the market is flooded with these mid-range stereo integrated amps.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
You sound like a candidate for the Cinema 70s then. Thanks for watching!
@Egofileo19 ай бұрын
The Stereo 70s is a Cinema 70 that has studied less :) and I perfectly agree with Andrew: while Cinema 70 is a "soundbar killer", this Stereo 70s is a clever solution for those who cannot logistically assemble an MCH system but It has many HDMI sources and wants the flexibility of an integrated, elegant product that makes its duty. The "weak" points for me are the EOS system (horrible if compared with BlueOS for example) and the lack of DIRAC LIVE, which would have immediately brought it in the Olympus of the electronics of this type (IMHO). Congratulations on the review and a dear greeting to both.
@shemsureshot9 ай бұрын
I’ve been experimenting with a Kef LS60, paired with a Marantz Cinema 70 (for surrounds while watching movies or gaming). They work really well together.
@bryanherr10939 ай бұрын
Another thing that I don’t like about active speakers are the umbilical cord cable vomit that comes out the back of active speakers. Forget soundbars for stereo listening, they just can’t compete with even a budget two channel setup.
@scottbaylor62159 ай бұрын
Had this been around about three years ago, I may have chosen this over the Cambridge Audio CX81. My setup was a 5.1 theatre place and I gave up HDMI connectivity. This would have allowed me to keep that. Now I use the toslink cable connection. That sometimes is not in sync. Still working on that. I also am not a powered speakers. I think it makes the wires harder to hide and a hot mess. But that’s just me.
@95lovi9 ай бұрын
Your theory is relavant, but one has more options and diversity with components more for stationary application. The aktiv market one way PA Studio speakers, Genelec, Adam, Kanto etc.. or HiFi , Kef , Elac, Klipsch etc.. are great for flexibilty , moving, smaller spaces quicker setup less equipment to carry around less decision making. You here them ,you like them your good. Instead of all sorts of Bluetooth solutions its a step up into stero phonic listening
@johnersj70999 ай бұрын
Your comparison at the end threw me. Cinema 70 vs Stereo 70. I priced them here in Switzerland and Cinema 70s were cheaper at US$739 vs Stereo 70s US$997. I run classic (aka old) B&W805 Matrix (1994) speakers. Help? Go the Cinema 70s or a different amp altogether? Great channel.
@SparK172999 ай бұрын
the Stereo 70, let alone the Cinema 70, will not power your speakers no where to it's full potential. Those products are more home cinema oriented stuff. In my opinion, you'd be better of with an Audiolab 7000a. Of course, it all depends on your budget. Grüezi us Basel ;)
@coreyw42307 ай бұрын
Why in the world didn't Marantz make the silver version of this available in North America...?
@charlesking6789 ай бұрын
Great review and thank you for the honesty with respect to bass. In my experience most lower priced amps and most avrs struggle with bass in 2 channel music. Boomy and loose. I have a marantz model 30. That bad boy sounds phenomenal!Hopefully in the next version of it it'll have hdmi and bass management (crossovers). That would make it one of the best in the market.
@phillipjohnson58689 ай бұрын
I’ve enjoyed my aging Marantz NR1506 and mostly listen to music with it via Apple TV with Apple Music lossless. I run it in a 3.1 config with small Definitive Technology ProMonitor 1000’s and a ProSub 800. The stereo 70 seems like a logical upgrade! I would stick with Marantz or possibly switch to Technics. Great review as always!
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Glad your older Marantz is serving you well! Thanks for watching!
@justinschlicher6318 ай бұрын
Andrew, you reviewed the NR1200 a few years ago. How would you compare it to the Stereo 70s?
@mnrodriguez6 ай бұрын
What a great presentation! You got a new subscriber! Thanks!!! (What AVR would you recommend for my setup: I only have two front speakers, 685 S2 and an AS608 subwoofer. Those speakers seem to like power...thanks!)
@Brett13349 ай бұрын
Having owned a soundbar in the past as my gear was in a seperate ‘Hifi’ room, which I completely got rid of because I found I barely listened to my music in there, after moving it all to my living room the soundbar went, never to be replaced again, no matter the soundbar I don’t think you can create better than playing through speakers, do I think this will kill powered speakers? No because like Kristi stated, they are for a different audience that aren’t as ‘audiophile’ I guess, and just want an easy solutions there and then. Looks like a great product, but unfortunately I would never go past 2.1 in my tv so that’s why I upgraded to the Yamaha, as it was feature packed for my needs!
@barrettwbenton9 ай бұрын
I somewhat doubt that makers of those aforementioned "smart" speakers are shaking in their boots over the Stereo 70's appearance (most all those companies make conventional loudspeakers too, yes?), but what gratifies me about the existence of this receiver is that it's an additional option for folks like me with a music-first attitude when putting together an audio system, even if there *might* be a flat-screen of some sort hanging somewhere above it. I have an aging-but-robust NAD-based setup in my main system, with a 52" TV on the wall above it (my wife watches far more on that screen than I do), but if the need arose to replace stuff, I think this Marantz would top my shortlist.
@williamlutsch42599 ай бұрын
Yall have been a pivotal part of my hifi journey. I am about to purchase a set of L100 classic, L52 for rear surround, the stereo 70s av receiver and was wondering if i could use this to adequately power the system until i can afford to add the marantz mm7055? Any advice on vintage lookin center channel to compliment this setup? Thanks soo much for all you do
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
You would need to get the Cinema 70 (not the Stereo 70 reviewed here) to do home theater with the L100s. I would add or budget for an Emotiva BasX A2 bit.ly/3uRu9o1 for the L100s.
@williamlutsch42599 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thank you sir, i really appreciate the response. I had been looking at the emotiva basx. Wew… gonna be a costly endeavor
@user-wg9no3zn7b9 ай бұрын
Great review! First I’ve seen on the Stereo 70S. You stated you preferred the sound of the Yamaha 1000A, any thoughts on sound comparison to the 800A? Closer in price to the 70s.
@dodpr9 ай бұрын
What makes the Stereo 70 sound better than the NR1200? The HDAM modules? Just curious. Thanks.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Not sure as I no longer have an NR1200 in house to compare the 70 to, sorry.
@dodpr9 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thank you for replying. Enjoy your Sunday!
@ChrisGramer9 ай бұрын
No idea how they compare sound-wise, but by buying the Stereo 70s you get 8K capabilities and I think additional music streaming service options.
@sokrebis9 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, you mentioned that you feel like Marantz stereo 70 is missing control in bass, but how about when connected to subwoofer using bass management? You mentioned that you tested it with the Klipsch subwoofer but we did not get any info about the sound difference with it. Thanks for the review.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
If you output the bass to a sub then that changes things, but it also defeats the purpose of buying a speaker like the R700 which only needs the bottom most octave augmented.
@sokrebis9 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews exactly my point, I would pair it with good bookshelf speakers and sub and than 75 watts would be enough for any case anyhow.
@bige76959 ай бұрын
Love your channel and its content. I’m purchasing KEF ls60s at their recent lowered cost. At 5 grand do you think you could even come close to matching the performance with separate components?
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
The LS60 are in a class all their own and are GREAT speakers!
@shemsureshot9 ай бұрын
I recently bought the LS60. I moved from it from a R3 Meta, Marantz 40n and KC62 Sub, this system cost more than the LS60 (without the sale) but the LS60 sounds so much better, and overall takes up much less space. I would say you cannot build a comparable system for the price, unless you go preowned.
@baronvonaux82949 ай бұрын
I simply don’t get the premise, I see a mass market 2 channel AVR being an unrelated product to active speakers, and can’t imagine anybody cross shopping in that way. If you are not looking for active speakers then there are better options for integrated amplifiers.
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
Okay, just trying to present it in a way that I think may be helpful to someone shopping at this price point, but I hear ya. Thanks for watching!
@allanmurray41569 ай бұрын
Looks to be the ideal av receiver to replace my soundbar, I was set on getting the marantz nr1200 but this new receiver from them defo looks to be the one I’m gonna go for. The receiver will be powering a pair of Klipsch RP500m ii’s and I may also get a subwoofer further down the line. Is there much difference between the nr1200 and the Stereo 70 when it comes to sound quality.
@davidchesser5849 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. I have been really excited for it. I think I will go with the cinema 70s for all the reasons you mentioned. I was leaning that way already but was waiting to hear it from someone other than myself. Again thanks
@Capitan_Cavernicola_15 ай бұрын
Great video! Does anybody know if there is a sound difference between the stereo and cinema version of this amplifier apart from the power rating?
@user-nq3wm5rw4j11 күн бұрын
Good review, do you think it could handle a pair of B&W CM8? I have the Cambridge CXA-80 today and it sounds surprisingly brilliant together but I would like to have the hdmi ARC solution because my optical output is broken on my tv so I can only use shitty lightweight cables right now otherwise they fall out🤗 It is an old Panasonic plasma like last generation but the picture is lovely so I want to keep it as long as it runs.
@frederickgay9 ай бұрын
This and the near-lookalike Cinema 70 look quite compelling for the price.
@inigogc9 ай бұрын
Do you think the benefits of better sound quality from a good stereo system, outweighs the surround sound benefits of say the Ambeo, HT-A9 or Q990C? Basically, which would you say is more important (at least in your opinion): sound quality or surround sound?
@andrewrobinsonreviews9 ай бұрын
It all depends on what you're going for. Can a stereo system make for a good movie-going one? Yes, but it will never fully surround you nor maybe captivate you the way a surround sound system can when playing back a proper (or good) surround mix. I look at it this way, a good/great home theater setup can also be a good stereo system, whereas a stereo setup can never really be a home theater.
@inigogc9 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for answering. In terms of sound quality, how much would you really say I am missing out on, with my Q990B (or similar kind of system)? Do I need to feel like I am not really listening to ‘good’ sound or listening to the music ‘incorrectly’?