Years after, I still couldn't get over the fact that the water looks so damn good in this game without the needs of RTX. Such a good engine, if only EA doesn't abbandon the franchise imagine what we could have seen now

"If lenin could see us now" this is my favourite line in this game

I love the Dreadnought simply because the missiles and that satisfaction you have when the three missiles hit their target.

I love the dreadnought simply because of his voice lines ... THE SEAS WILL RUN RED

FYI, both dreadnaught and V4 has a 50% friendly fire damage, so the damage testing against friendly target is actually inaccurate, I would advice doing testing with enemy units with these 2 units.

in 2020 that water graphics still amazing.

One thing that's worth noting, is that a max vet dreadnought with a dry dock can out heal the damage it takes from its ability So you can have it with that ability on permanently, which allows it to out damage the other 2 ships

Allies: precision Soviet: Power Empire: Speed

The dreadnought on the last test tho, they died but took their enemy with them

Me Facing Dreadnoughts: Meh! Just send in the fastest units to dodge their rockets! Me Facing Aircraft Carriers: I guess I'll either send in commandos or stingrays, Naginatas, or even assault destroyers... Me Facing Shogun Battleships: Mother of God... Avoid it's broadside, or else I'm doomed!

It's a shame that the devs didn't allow the aircraft carrier's drones to change targets while they still have a bomb. Not only would this allow them to do much better against multiple, weaker targets, but allow you to get around enemies and attack from different angles if you attacked ground and then gave them a different target partway through their flight. I suppose they had to balance them somehow though for having the greatest single-target dps (not counting abilities).

my fave strategy with is to put the 3x Dreadnoughts on "aggressive stance" and keep them moving around enemy base. This will make them to fire at everything within range while always on the move. :)

Shogun has the highest damage (and the highest price) draught is famous for its radius damage of missile, carrier has longer range.

For anyones concern, Aircraft carrier have the longest striking distance. My suggestion is to test the unit on shrunked status.

This doesn't account for the upgrade the Shogun gets from the Impetial protocol bonus to Navy though.

Well we already know the setting from the start Best for heavy tank unit = Soviet Best Air unit = Alllied and Best of Naval unit = Empire and note : for some reason across CnC game like RA or General, Allied always made op with air unit🤔

I might be wrong but I believe when attacking the units of the same team V4 and Dreadnought rockets do reduced damage. the game calculates it as splash damage done to allies and that is reduced. I don't know if shogun battleship or aircraft carrier have same kinds of calculations put into them, but Dreadnought should kill a 1500hp ship with 200 damage rockets in three salvoes (7.5 rockets).

Watching this video, it really clicked and sank in how absurdly well this game has aged. Like, c'mon, a 13 years old game has no right to look this good in 2021.

Dreadnought is the worst. Same as V4. Why didn’t you make a comparison of fire distance? Also, the fire distance of ships increases when they receive veteran status. It would be interesting to see.

FINALLY, someone who actually tips the shogun battleship for tests!

They really ought to have given these ships some light anti air defense.

If you put the aircraft carrier to aggro mode it will gain additional airforce squad coming from the rear so it has 2 different squads. (you can't control the other one it will just randomly attack nearby enemies) Same is with shogun if you don't place it sideways it won't shoot the rear cannons at all but with aggro stance it shoots the rear cannon automaticly to random nearby enemies and the front cannon to your target

I love the drones of the carrier

Aircraft carriers have the best secondary fire option...

Keep it up with the great content! Would be great to see some other naval units comparison, for instance Dolphins vs Riptides?. Dolphins should be faster in water but they are longer to produce. I read somewhere they deal group damage but I'm not sure what that means I just find riptides more useful overall so I can't really understand the utility of Dolphins.. maybe i'm wrong!

I just want to point out that the empires "Fortified Fleet" tech is not purchased in this vid. Im pretty sure that the Shogun Battleship can destroy them much easier with that tech because it doesnt just provide armor boost but also attack speed. But its pretty obvious from the start. The Empire has the greatest Naval units in the game. Not being biased or what.

Shogun Battleship is the best as the video(and 2200 price) show (as long as you control him properly)

I knew my beloved carrier would suffer. Despite its damage, it's slow firing speed is its sole weakness.

I was wondering when i see last test, damn its so fun Soviet:hey comrades , you going with me;)

With good Micro, the Aircraft carrier is king, as a regular unit, the Shogun does it's role as naval artillery the best, however, and the dreadnought is somewhere in the middle. However, you really need to micro the carrier to get the best out of it, and you can always shoot the drones down.

Very nice video... there is only one thing that I think I noticed. In the Head to Head matches it seems like the Shogun Battleship's Volume of Fire is reduced by half in a Straight on Engagement the second test where you had them broadside to the targets seemed to bring both turrets into play which I think without the use of the other ships Special Abilities would have them overwhelm them fairly easily. (Well X times out of Y... their seems to be a decent percentage miss chance on the beam shots.) Apart from that I guess that the Shogun's charge ability can only run over smaller targets and would be ineffective against these tier of ships?

where is my soviet bias, comrade?

i just want to add, i have played this game a little to mutch so i should poinit it out. their key strenghts. soviet dreadnought is THE best naval seige. since it will fire moving or standing still, it has the fastest firing rate With special ability and can destroy bases the fastets. the Allied air Craft carrier, is THE best naval support unit out of the (naval bombardment classes) wich can give vision up hils With its drones (force fire) and it can emp bases or armies. just in general a good support unit. the empire shogun Battle ship is THE best naval to naval combat (naval bombardment classes) its specail abilty will 1 shoot any naval unit hit, even the mcv. (not buildings) it has a decent fire rate and acuracy and can fire while moving, but is less efficent destroying bases than the dreadnaught. it cannot support any troops or bases With any thing besides its fire rate. they indeed do get more damage, more attack speed, Helth regen and range on heroic status. so all the boats are over all stronger while heroic. out of the bunch the ones to fear the most is the empire shogun Battle ship, mainly. 1 it can get locked Down but it will be able to shoot while retreating or on flanking armies if its not put side ways. its specail abilty makes it so naval to naval attack against a shogun Battel ship can be really dangerus. the dreadnought is the second one to fear the most (keep in mind this is my opinion on the fear) since it cant really fight enemy troops, it can fire against them. and the enemy cannot see where they are going to land 100% its always going to be a hit or miss. so the enemy army gotta keep moving, making the enemy constantly having to micro their troops. since they can destroy bases really rapidly their not Nice to face off against either. you will lose Your refineries in ish 4-5 attack (not misslis but attacks all 3 shoots) so do not delay in removing them from the enemy if you can. their weakness lies in beeing easy to kill. they are rather weak. 4 vindicators can blow 1 dreadnught up. but they cant kill a shogun Battle ship in 1 bombing run the Aircraft carrier has a bugg in the game wich is beeing patched, where a terror drone can sap it (disabling movement) but for some reason it will also stop all the drones from spawning. making it usless in attack (not stop them from spawning but the drones instantly dies, even those who are already up in the air) its emp strike is also not to be messed With, a good hit form that and Your base or army is done for. and thats why i usally fear them the least, but their support strenghts are not to be messed With. do not underastimate any troops in red alert 3. If there is any unit comparisions you want me to answer just send a Message here and ill answer. in the mean time ill go play red alert 3 online :) see you on the Battle feild

I am impressed with how equal they really are. Now is hard to compare since they all have their advantages and disadvantages. And is a lot down to micro and unit composition in real match up. Personally I prefer the Japanese Navy in the game taken as a whole. And for the most part I prefer the battleship over the other two. But the other are strong given the right situation and should not be underestimated. And it might simply be down to my play style that I prefer the Japanese on water. (I prefer the soviets more when it comes to base building however. And I find the allies to be all around a very good faction. No faction I feel is bad in the game and all are fun to play having their unique style to them.)

Dreadnought: best DPS Aircraft Carrier: best ability Shogun: simply the best

For me it's more fun playing the aircraft carrier, since it has a very long-range attack comparing to other capital ships, having a cryo-copter or any sort of scouting to the enemy from far away giving you an advantage to engage land or sea targets effectively without going too near the battlefield. I always use the blackout missiles if engaging with other capital ships or minor ships since the drone bombers can either finish them off or other support units. It's the best siege and support unit for me.

Shogun Ship:”Yawn! You guy done yet?”

If I remember correctly, one issue the Shogun has that the Carrier doesn't and the dreadnought has to a less extent is firing at bases on cliff sides where the shoguns guns can be blocked.

Shogun Battleship is my favourite ship in the game

Comparing prices might be interesting. Get as much of these units for 2000 credits? Also as mentioned here before, what about range? And a future test, assemble a taskforce and compare the different taskforces(build an army for 7500 credits and see what you can achieve with it)

Does anyone remember allied cruiser ship the most powerful ship allied has in ra 1. It got an insane range and the power of each shot was as powerful as a mammoth tank(appcalypse tank ra1)

It reminds me of the time I hunt my own Terror Drone with Artillery

I've played command and conquer alot... but it never occurred to me to make the shogun face its broadside to the enemy to fire.

Aircraft carriers are annoying af because of their EMP's where one's they got you, they can literally free hit on your units.

Thanks its osm compare

I'd say the empire has the strongest navy, their frigates are durable, have a high burst damage output (higher than the akula if you micro it enough) and it can attack submarines. The shogun battleship (if it gets close) can instakill the other battleships and can beat the others if they use both their turrets with some micro. The issue with the navy is actually on the aquatic only maps. Their anti air isn't good (I wouldn't want to use giga fortresses for defense), the sea wings can't catch fast bombers and can easily get destroyed by harbingers, they take just way too long to fire and they don't get chopper vxs or jet tengus on those maps whereas the other factions can still access their aircraft. Another threat is the blackout missile, especially if it's upgraded.

It seems like that the shogun battleship fires more shots faster if you have it face the target with it's broad side where both turrets can aim at the target.

The water warm yes? Good fishing here...

Shogun Battleship basically just Yamato & Swarn of Dreadnought is a Worst Nightmare for Ground Units

For me. I like the aircraft carrier of red alert2. They change rally when the target is down.

I really prefer the soviet's navy from Red Alert 2 to the one from the 3rd game, soviet's navy is underwhelming in this game and I find it sad

RA3 remembered, it's good.

Love Shogun Battleship. Maybe you can test all unit at highest veteran

What is the music you used for this video? The first 10 mins

Good content. But it's nice if there were promotion comparison.

10:47 I can’t understand: how does the Shogun manage to smear? Okay, some terror drone, which is smaller than a dog and moves at the speed of the Apollo, but along a completely motionless aircraft carrier? Words about shooting down because of recoil do not work: were the Japanese able to even fold skyscrapers into compact enough cores and make them reach the place themselves, but could not put recoil compensators on their most advanced ships?

the land test shows the carrier technically is better than the other two, but the fact it can't retarget drones mid flight severely hurts it against multiple targets.

I strongly suggest you to test units on vanilla version 1.12 of RA3, not uprising. Since this version is where most pvp battles take place.

All in all: -The Carrier has the best single volley damage, but is prone to overkill and has a LONG reload time, making large numbers of them have progressively diminishing returns -The Dreadnought is the middle of the road, although it can reach great DPS at the price of health -The Shogun has the best DPS as well as the attack that reaches it's target the fastest, but neets to be turned sideways to compete (btw in the duels we saw the dreadnought use his ability, but not the Shogun or the Carrier)

Dont forget about Japanese naval improvements!

i dont think your were playing as the imperial army because you wouldev tested the upgraded shogun its visible if they have multiple red stripes and other visuals

@The JB You handicapped the shogun in your last two direct comparison battles. When you compared each ship to the other, why didnt you use the shogun Special ability? Same for just the test without Special ability. Why Die you only use half the shoguns fire Power, while the other Ships attacked with all they got?

If you have capured dry dock the dreadnought will win most of its battles

oh i miss that day

so to put it simply empire: naval bombardment allies: air strike via aircraft carrier soviets: rockets just that there are 3 of them

What key combination do you press so that they do not fulfill the order as soon as you give them away? Sorry for bad English 🙈

So this tells us that as long as Shogun Battleship fires broadside, it will always have highest DPS?

Soviet Core Military:Armored and Ground Troops Allied Core Military:Naval Fleet and Air Power Empire Core Military:Robotic Fanatic Militarism

Shogun is op. Just need micro.

I was hoping to see which unit has the longest attack range and how shogun battleship with upgraded fortified fleet and high technology upgrade on aircraft carrier too

Categories of what i think each one is -Soviets (Firepower) -Empire (Fire rate) -Allied (Precision)

The seas belong to the empire! Lenin can't see you now! Everyone takes note.

0:24 How to make?

Sure aircraft carrier is slowest but has the best ability

Kinda like TG's Red Alert 2 tests, don't you think?

Best single attack: 1st: carrier 2nd: shogun battleship 3rd: dreadnought Best follow up attack speed: 1st: shogun battleship 2nd: dreadnought 3rd: carrier Best group attack: 1st: shogun battleship 2nd: dreadnought 3rd: carrier Straight battle wins: 1st: carrier 2nd: shogun battleship 3rd dreadnought No holds battle: 1st: dreadnought, Pyrrhic victories due to death before the battle finished 2nd: carrier, one still floated 3rd: shogun battleship, taken with opponent or lost battle

Освободим советские моря от акул капитализма!)

When you make ships vs ships and be fair make sure none of them use abilities. And the empire's ship should use both of the main gun, no need one main gun. We need to observe the firepower.

I've seen better drones from the Protoss Carrier.

I do prefer the dreadnaught altough its not the best multible number and its long radius are enough to take on ay base

The shogun battleship the best

can you do some of these but with their promoted verion? I dont really remember if RA3 have promotion or not so sorry if I'm being dumb.

Aircraft Carrier leaving Port 💕💪💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

He dreadnougt stil ha t best qoutes

I really like dreadnought. But the ra2 version is simply better. The only problem is the rocket could be destroyed by anti air gun

Well, ability-wise, the Shogun would win and will be the best. Your can just ram someone off the face of the planet.

6:30 here we go Enterprise Hornet and Yorktown!

Empire resistance 📱.

14:12 XD

red alert 3 had water physics

Aircraft carriers are nerfed so much in RA3. They are OP in RA2.

feels like in the PvP, shogun BS got done dirty since he couldn't use ramming ability

I really want to know how could I make Dreadnoughts don't miss moving targets

Hmm let's wait for the Corona mod Where they have new units and Chinese faction will be added

I miss RA2's dreadnaught

No way to challenge shogun .

The drednought in red alert 2 was better in terms of damge just sayin:/

I would go for Japan if is a navy fight because of their ships.

The 1v1 felt unfair since the shogun battleships are using 50% of their potential dmg, unlike the others, who are using 100% of their capability.

Best DPS: 1. Dreadnought sacrifice 2. Shogun battleship 3. Dreadnought normal 4. Aircraft carrier Best AOE: 1. Shogun battleship 2. Dreadnought 3. Aircraft carrier Best ship vs ship: 1. Aircraft carrier 2. Dreadnought sacrifice 3. Dreadnought 4. Shogun battleship Best vs moving target: 1. Aircraft carrier 2. Shogun battleship 3. Dreadnought It's pretty balanced. Each has its pros and cons, depending on the situation faced. Some are better in certain situations, and worse in another.