Hey Matthew, thanks for the comments and feedback. There are quite a few different small details items on the C4's that are easily overlooked, and its always fun to share with fellow enthusiasts.

Yep, I remember when it came out it was mind blowing to think the radio would actually turn up the volume as you accelerated.

Thanks, will do!

Hey Michael, good to hear you are still having fun with the Z. I watched your last video on some of your progress. Keep in touch as it comes along. 👍

Gene, thanks for the positive feedback👍

No problem, glad you enjoyed it. 👍

Scott, thanks for the positive feedback. Glad I could help you out👍.

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate you sharing it.

Robert, no problem. Glad to do it. Let me know if you need anything else👍.

Thanks for the comments, glad you enjoyed it. You definitely took the long road with the ZF/Dana 44 conversion, but I'm sure you're having fun with it now. Sounds like you have the right mods to make it a pretty aggressive street cruiser.

Great plan, I'll bet there are quite a few nice open roads in Brazil/South America to drive it. Thanks for the feedback👍

@@VetteSource you're right

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it👍.

Hey Jon, thanks for the comments👍. There is quite a bit of lore and detail about Corvettes that the fans obsess over. Its all in good fun, just makes it interesting even if you don't have one in the garage. You wouldn't believe the amount of detail and trivia surrounding the vintage Corvettes of the 50's and 60's. You can really get in the weeds with those.

Glad you found it helpful, thanks for the comment👍

No problem, glad to do it. Thanks for watching👍

Very cool. I wasn't sure why they went to the plastic housings, but that makes sense. The problem with the brass gears is that they will destroy the plastic drive gear pellets over time. These headlight motors were definitely finicky pieces and had to almost have the perfect weight and balance to last long term.

NP, glad you enjoyed it👍

No problem, glad to share the trivia. Hood changes are pretty common with the C4's due to the size of the hood and difficulty in properly hiding repaired damage. Easier for the insurance company/body shop to buy another undamaged than hope a repair holds up over time.

My 96 auto also has the Mobil 1 hood sticker...

Hey Chris, thanks for adding the info. I'm betting yours is an early VIN?

Thanks for the feedback, glad you enjoyed it 👍

Thanks for the feedback and sub, glad you're enjoying the videos👍. You're correct, the 67 is an L71 435 HP Tri-Power and is the channel avatar. I have a playlist of videos featuring the 67 you can check out- kzfaq.info/sun/PLAM-V1w3acphdON47kBOAmnZrCEqlgsDf Happy New Year to you as well.

Thanks Joey, glad you enjoyed it👍.

Army, thanks for adding the information. It seems after doing an informal survey in the comments section the Mobil 1 labels were used at the beginning of production until supplies were exhausted. That's a cool idea with the Grand Sport emblems, I'll bet it adds a unique look to your car.

Hey Jason, nice to meet you. As you probably guessed I am a pretty big live music fan, but have to be content with my posters since I can't play anything in my videos. I'll have to catch you next time you guys are doing a show, if they will ever let people congregate again in the open🙄. At the very least I'll have to get all my fellow C4 owners together for a cruise around the city.

@@VetteSource Yeah, I hear you about the live music scene. It's not easy these days for the musicians or fans! We've been making it okay and have good relationships with venues enough that we can get a gig here and there if it's a "controlled" environment. That would be awesome to have you come out to a show sometime. And I'm liking the C4 cruise idea you're talking about! I'm watching your videos and I'm really enjoying them. Keep it up and hope to talk more.

Great, glad to hear. Talk with you soon👍

Hey Gus, thanks for sharing your information. I will add it to my survey list.

Yep, I believe Ecklers started reproducing them once they started to go missing from people's cars.

Yep, they've been used as a test platform for new features and options to see how they work before integrating them into the rest of the fleet. Thanks for the comments👍.

Thanks Lawrence, glad you enjoyed it👍. The early volume control was an interesting feature. I remember my friends mother had an 83 Maxima with it as well. Thanks for sharing.

Definitely, nowadays it's a common feature adapted for every car on the road. Back in the early 90's it was considered cutting edge and a premium upgrade. Funny how times change.

Yea, the roof mounted 3rd brake light gives it a very distinctive look.

David, thanks for sharing. Just shows that where there's a will there's a way. Customization is always a cool part of the car hobby and I enjoy seeing what people come up with for their cars. Earlier this week I saw a 69 Charger that had a 2018 Hellcat drive train and interior grafted into it. Very cool👍

Seems like it must have been a popular add on. You're the second one that has commented with a 96 that has it installed.

@@VetteSource all C4 Corvettes from 1992 thru 1996 had the plaque on the underside of the engine(from the factory). It was as if the LT1 and Mobil1 were truly meant for each other.

Gene, thanks for the input. After posting the video I had several comments like yours from owners that had the Mobil 1 emblem on their 96 hood. Since I have known my 96 LT4 since it arrived at the dealership on the transport truck, I knew that it never had the emblem, so I figured they had left it off all the 96's. However I acquired an early production (one of the first 2000 cars built) 96 LT4 yesterday, and there was the Mobil 1 emblem on the hood. After doing some research last night, it appears the early 96's must have had the emblem installed. The earliest car I found without the emblem was in the low 4000 VIN range. I am going to keep looking for VIN's in the 3000 range and see what I find. Will keep you updated if you have an interest.

@@VetteSource My '96 convertible in LT1 guise was built at the end of 1995 with the last four of the vin number below 0700, and it has the Mobil1 plaque. It would be totally interesting to know the back story for sure. Thanks for the response.

Hey Stan, glad you enjoyed it. Are you referring to the exterior rearview mirrors?

Richard, that's great to hear, glad I could help you out. The SCV feature is one of those tidbits that gets lost to time. I was wondering when somebody would ask about the busted drywall. It's a funny storey actually. I had my 69 Corvette on the wheel dollies and was trying to be smart and move it sideways in the garage to have more free space to work on it. When I leaned against the wall, my ass broke through the drywall right between the two studs. I had to tell my wife to quit feeding me so well🤣🤣.

@@VetteSource LOL! Great story! Thanks!

Glad to share👍. My kids still mess with me about it.

Thanks for the feedback, Monty

It is an OBDII port, but in the field we use AlDL/OBDIi terminology interchangeably.

Unfortunately I'm not sure who the original OEM manufacturer/supplier to GM was and it may be something that is difficult to figure out after so many years. You are correct though, the aftermarket units are very inferior in comparison to the late C4 factory installed pieces. At least having something to replace the worn originals is better than nothing, but its still no fun when they leak so bad.

Cool, that's good info to have. Thanks for sharing👍.

Hey Max, that's Corvettes for ya. People love the trivia and history. Thanks for the comments👍.

Yeah, it's called classic car passion.

No problem, glad to do it👍. The later bumper will fit, however the belt line trim will be different so you will need to update the rest of the trim on the car with the newer 91-96 style trim.

Hey Matthew, funny you should mention that. I just recently acquired an orphaned 1990 Toro Trofeo and have been brining it back to life. I made a video of it here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpx7mamEva3DgXk.html I could definitely use some items for it what kind of parts do you have available?

Yea, I have gotten quite a bit of feedback regarding glass lenses on early cars. I need to double check my mid 80's GM parts book to see if I can definitely I'd when the change occured. Thanks for the feedback👍.

Yup. My 86 has glass underhood lights

@@oatz1878 starting to make sense that they either started in 86, or were upgraded once the factory quit supplying plastic replacements. Still trying to dig up information on them for now. Thanks for the comment👍

The escaping air is a normal occurrence in these older systems before they moved to the new systems with the built-in vapor recovery

Yep, it's something I heard from a GM dealer rep back when I was selling them new. IIRC, he said they put them on the first 7 or so convertibles, and decided they didn't like the look of them so they quit installing them going forward. I have never been able to find one of those first built convertibles to see for myself, but the story always intrigued me.

Cool trivia, looks like many of the manufacturers adapted that SCV feature to their cars. Thanks for sharing👍

Very interesting! I never would have expected that. Thanks for sharing the trivia👍.

I recommend applying dielectric grease to the weatherstripping once or twice a year depending on the cars use. It isn't petroleum based and won't cause long term damage to the foam/rubber👍.

@@VetteSource thank you

No problem, anytime. 👍

Up Date on Map Pocket...... I found 62 cents

You're welcome👍. Sharing the information about these awesome cars is what uts all about.

Cool, won't buy much nowadays but it was still there. Like a treasure hunt when we were kids.

Hey Joe, thanks for the comments👍.

Interesting, never heard of that. I will have to take a look at a couple of 94 and 95's to compare them against the 96's. Thanks for the comment👍

Automatic Transmission Temp was added in 1995.

@@nomakewan excellent info! Thanks for sharing👍

Yep, 85's are great C4's, first year of the TPI, and with the 4 speed and Z51 quite fun cars to cruise on a regular basis.

I have a 85 L98 not stock anymore it’s getting modifying same Engine automatic. I just did the interior in the new cluster I am putting headers and The borla exhaust for now

You'll like the headers and the Borla exhaust. It definitely wakes up the TPI engjnes.

Alan, YT doesn't allow for public posting of contact info for privacy reasons, but you can always send me a DM through IG or email to vettesource@hotmail.com

I hear you. They're a cool tidbit trivia item, but nothing that changes the driving characteristics of the car. It was more of a cost savings measure than anything else. Thanks for the comment👍.

Exactly, except now you don't have much choice since the plastic headlights are just about impossible to find.

@Jeff Spicolli Oh i still would've used the glass ones. Meant I wouldn't have thrown away the plastic ones. Glass just looks so much nicer.

Yep, quite a few of the higher end GM cars received them during those mid 90's model years. I remember detailing them for customers when they would come in to look at the Monte Carlos and Impala. Thanks for the comment👍

For sure, I've enjoyed having it as a garage ornament. Time to wake it up and terrorize the streets....

What year is it?

67 Coupe, 427/435 HP 3X2 TriPower. My nickname for it is Thor. This is the car I used for the channel artwork and avatar.

Heck yeah man owning a c2 is high up on my list, I’d like to get a 69-72 c3 one day also.

oh yea, I have a thing for the C3 chrome bumper cars as well. There are a few of them laying around here also. If you haven't seen it, here is the video I published for the 69 Daytona Yellow 427 car last week - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtx4jK2oqcW6Zp8.html

Hey buddy, do you mean the heater one way valve?

@@VetteSource the valve that controls the cruise control and the hvac system, thanks Sir!

Ok, gotcha. It's mounted right above the battery on the frame to cowl support. You'll see the vacuum lines coming out of the backside of the assembly, along with the throttle cable running back to the ASR unit.

@@VetteSource thank you very much Sir!

Nice one😁. They do have a habit of bringing the worst out in you at times.

Yep, it appears the plastic headlights started showing up earlier than I had initially thought. We were able to figure it out in some of the comment discussions. Thanks for sharing👍.

My '91 ZR1 had plastic Wagner headlights, but I changed them out for Sylvania Silver Stars.

I think I remember noticing that the Callaway cars had the Mobil 1 sticker removed, maybe it had something to do with them using a different type of oil in the Callawy builds. Thanks for the info on the glass headlights. Looks like they may have begun phasing them in around 93. Still collecting data points on that.

@@VetteSource Mine is an early 93, so that is possible. It is Callaway Supernatural #001

Now that's 😎. There's always something satisfying about having the first or last of a specialty car.

@@VetteSource Indeed :) And it is likely to be the only one in Australia for a while yet, it will almost certainly be the only Supernatural Ruby 40th convertible in Australia, since they only made two of them!

Thats interesting. I have never personally seen a 95 without the blacked out primered area between the turn sginal/cornering lamps. Are you referring to the late build cars at the end of the production year?

Yep, definitely possible. Corvette enthusiasts like to add emblems or other such markers to personalize their cars. Of course, it's also possible you have an earlier hood on your car. Easy way to check is look at the inner fender wells on the hood. If they are riveted in place, that is definitely a 96 hood. The earlier hoods have them bolted in with T30 torx fasteners like the lower inner fenders.

Mine has the sticker 100% stock but may have been dealer installed during prep.

@@paulmoss7940 I think what we have learned about these stickers so far is that early 96 c4's had the stickers... then they ran out about halfway through the run and just stopped putting them on.

@@michaelthebarbarian3380 I'm thinking mine is late like sept. or oct. I will have to check, originally sold in NC. In the factory literature there is a brochure about using only Mobil1 . There is also a factory tape that has been published on YT by another LT4 owner. Jeff Gordon does some commentary on it.

If you don't mind sharing the last 5 digits of your VIN I can compare it to the others I have researched to get closer to figuring out when they stopped installing them.

Interesting. I have been getting some feedback that they did seem to appear on some of the earlier cars, but not consistently. I wonder if it was the supplier beginning to phase them in. Personally I have never run across any of them on the 94 and 95 cars I have dismantled for parts over the years.

@@VetteSource here is a link, scroll down. States some early ZR1 s had plastic. I saved my plastic ones when they burned out...not willing to pay the huge price for NOS ones. mirrockcorvette.com/c4-parts-guide/lights/

Excellent info, thanks for sharing. Now I will have to go back to my inventory stockpile to double check for the plastic headlight. 😁

My 88 has the glass under hood light lenses also

Hey Mike, good morning. I have seen some of the earlier cars with the glass lenses. I think that GM stopped producing the plastic lenses due to them melting, and began offering only the glass lenses for replacement. It may be that 88 was the first year they were installed on the assembly line. Thanks for the info👍

Well, the plot thickens, thanks for the input. I am going to have to go out and take a look at the 86 convertible project car I have sitting in storage and see what's on there. Looks like they may have put those glass lights in there much earlier than I thought.

@@VetteSource Maybe someone replaced it with glass. Are they the same exact size and shape? Minutae.

Yep, after 34 years there are quite a few variables that can happen with parts that were installed on cars originally.

That's what happens when your big butt breaks through the drywall when your trying to move the car over while it's on dollies. I know not to do that again😆

Hey Jim, I have been hearing that from a few other owners of 88's and 89's. I am going to dig a little further and see if I can figure out what year they started changing them over. Thanks for the comment👍

John, good catch! I completely forgot about the Baskin Robbins cars😂. That's correct that they're also missing the blacked out primer section between the fog light/side markers. Thanks for the comment👍.

That's cool, never would have thought of that even though it makes perfect sense. It first appeared on the 1990 Corvettes equipped with the Delco Bose Gold CD player, so it was an often overlooked option that many never noticed, much less used.

Thanks for the comment. You are correct, all of the 95's should have it. After doing some further research this week, it looks like they stopped putting the Mobil 1 emblems between VN#'s 3500-4200 in 1996. I just acquired an early build (21st day) Aqua Metallic 1996 LT4 and was surprised to see the Mobil 1 sticker under the hood. You can see the car here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbqlhaqX3de4m2g.html

@@VetteSource very cool! I saw an aqua one driving here in Abilene, Tx the other day. I was in the family ride and wasn't able to turn around to talk to him.

They're definitely rare to come across in the wild. Most of the time you will see them on display in the car shows and cruise is. Good to see people are still using them.

@@VetteSource it's rare to see any C4 anymore, it feels like. The aqua one I saw was pulling into a restaurant. Must have been a hot date.

Could have been, maybe the Corvette was making up for having to hide his face behind a mask when out in public😂😂.

Hmm, interesting.

Great, thanks for sharing👍. I will have an update on what I found in regards to the glass lamps in my next C4 Corvette trivia video.

Sure, but what else are you going to spend your money on, booze and women? The Corvette may be less trouble in the long run😁.

Interesting. Do you happen to know if your car is an early or late build?

@@VetteSource I'm not sure how to tell /:

There will be a white label in the driverside door jamb that lists the date of production. Also take a look at the last five digits of the VIN. That will be the build number of your car. There were a little over 20,000 Corvettes built that year, so you can tell how early or late it was produced by that number.

@@VetteSource Thank you! I checked at it notes mfd by 08/94 and the last 5 are 01578. I think it was one of the earlier ones.

Definitely an an early car, build #1578. Could be the the "park" telltale may have started earlier than I thought. Any chance your cluster could have been changed out?

That would be impossible. I love it too much, plus we have a complicated history together🤣.

Really, what makes you think that?

@@VetteSource Yeah what makes him think that? Had to side with you, can't abide with those that disagree just to aggravate others. Really enjoying your videos, they are a wealth of information.

Yep, it's an unfortunate side effect of KZfaq. However, I also have lots of great conversations with like minded enthusiasts to compensate for it.

Hey Mark, lots of guys like the premium aftermarket units. I'm a fan of Kenwood myself. However, it sounds like you were never able to hear your Bose Gold system when it was functioning properly. They're very impressive, and surprise many people when they find out it's a "stock" system. Thanks for the comments👍.

@@VetteSource when I was using it for the short time Before I pulled it out. I always set fade to the front speakers and let the rears take the bass. But now I have bass up the booty that stock can’t compare to in a million years. Lows and mid punch so I’m good.

Yep, for certain kinds of music the aftermarket systems are what you need for sure.

@@VetteSource if u match up a really good system and adjust it all so there’s no distortion everything will last as long as u own it.

Agreed, the old school Kenwood from the early 90's is still kicking in my 1991 Firebird Formula 350 to this day, CD player and all.

Good catch, that is something I have a habit of doing. Thanks for the fesdback👍.