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C8 Corvette Stingray Prices FINALLY Coming Back Down?

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Cars, Costs and Technology

Cars, Costs and Technology

2 жыл бұрын

With the pending 2023 C8 Corvette Z06 announcement and the new ADS allocation system in place there is a good chance that we'll finally see some reduction in the mark-ups on the C8 Corvette Stingray!
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2023 C8 Corvette Z06
C8 Corvette Stingray
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@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Are you willing to pay over sticker price? Just curious what the consensus is here on the channel. Thanks for watching! Here's a great article explaining the new ADS allocation system: gmauthority.com/blog/2021/08/why-c8-corvette-markups-should-begin-to-go-away-now/amp/
@cbzo6
@cbzo6 2 жыл бұрын
You sold yours at a good time. Crazy my 2020 is still worth more than i paid for it.
@emelito888
@emelito888 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn't go over 8-10k. I'd wait a bit more or get an older gen Corvette.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's wild for sure. Crazy times.
@socalsean3425
@socalsean3425 2 жыл бұрын
Most people paying over sticker will be upside down in the car i will wait on the sidelines
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍🏼
@Brooks22n
@Brooks22n 2 жыл бұрын
Wait till the ZO6 comes out lol 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Berniesf
@Berniesf 2 жыл бұрын
I called today to 8 different dealerships here in Houston trying to put an order for an LT1 C8... all of them have markups just to place the order. The lowest 'market adjustment' was 5k. The most insane wanted $20k... That's for a car that doesn't even exist and will be built and delivered (maybe) in a year. completely nuts.
@ivanestrada8887
@ivanestrada8887 2 жыл бұрын
Same here in Vegas but the market adjustment is +40k on any c8 available at our biggest corvette provider/dealer.
@ricky3506
@ricky3506 2 жыл бұрын
Your content is always on another level. Thanks as always.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻 I really appreciate the feedback!
@Jimmerca
@Jimmerca 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a good time to be shopping for a car and I am going to be patient. GM did a great job with the new C8!!
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree 👍🏻
@QuietStormX
@QuietStormX 2 жыл бұрын
I would Not pay Dealer Mark-Ups! There are many GM Chevy Dealers who want my busness of my Build out online than off anyv lot. I want the option I want than just taking what is in stock..
@marcscott789
@marcscott789 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best info source for C8 on you tube.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
@lender3000
@lender3000 2 жыл бұрын
Look at any dealer's lot and you can see that they are pretty much empty. Car prices are NOT coming down anytime soon.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Car prices and inventory in general are a mess right now for sure. Hopefully we're at the peak of the problem and not the beginning 😑
@wanderingdoc5075
@wanderingdoc5075 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. A few weeks ago I was in Gaithersburg Maryland at I believe the third largest Corvette dealer in the country and they had probably 15 or 20 C8s on the lot, half of them sold and all were marked up a bit though. However dealers' lots are aren't empty cuz :)
@ShinyBlackRims
@ShinyBlackRims 2 жыл бұрын
It's obvious that C8 Stingray inflated prices were never going to be sustainable long term. With more units being manufactured each year, and the Z06 coming out, it is no longer a good deal to pay 90-100k for a Stingray. Z06 is definitely worth that much though. But even for those, slightly used cars have always been better deals in terms of price vs risk....... during times of normal market dynamics of course. I snatched a used C7 in 2018 for under 50k with numerous options and under 4k miles. Always reliable so far.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍🏻 People who bought C7s in 18-19 got amazing deals. They appreciated quite a bit since then.
@brett2375
@brett2375 2 жыл бұрын
Idk how it's obvious. I would argue that it's more evident that they won't be coming down very much at all. The reason this car made so many headlines and still is, is the value this car brings for what your getting. No competitor came close to it with its price tag, but manufactures don't get the decision on what something is worth, the market does and always will. I think the market has clearly shown what we value this car at and the wait list is continuing to grow, not shrink even with supply increasing. I think people are just wishful thinking because they are "waiting to get a deal " but IMO they will be waiting forever. I talk to my local dealership regularly, they get 10 -15 new vettes in every week and sell them all the day they arrive for 30k over, no questions asked.
@ShinyBlackRims
@ShinyBlackRims 2 жыл бұрын
@@brett2375 You are arguing against fundamentals of economics. As supply increases and demand wanes due to boredom and newer products, these prices cannot be sustained. Funny how you call my idea wishful thinking when I can make a case that I am realistic and you are the one with wishful thinking. Your entire argument is based on C8 offering so much compared to other premium brands. You are basing your point on taste, which can change quickly as time passes. C7 offered so much bang for buck as well. Look how much I got one for 3 years ago. There is simply too much supply coming in the years ahead, with Z06/ZR1/Zora rendering the Stingray a nobody. Performance wise, the C8 stingray is a one trick pony. Only good at launches and nothing else. Handling grip did not improve from C7 despite "mid engine" layout and 305 rear tires. 200 lbs heavier. Not dominant at roll racing. Lap times barely improved over C7 Z51. M4 and M3 can compete with it. M Comp with or without X drive will beat it for similar or less market pricing of 2021. How much do you want to bet on your claims? Easy to make a claim based on raw emotions when you have not wagered anything in case you are wrong. I am a Vette fan, but blind is what I am not.
@brett2375
@brett2375 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShinyBlackRims " demand wanes due to boredom and newer products" I'm sorry please show me which fundamental principle this is referring to? Or is this just you imposing your opinion at the end of a basic economic principle? There are so many examples of products and cars ( especially exotic) and that were iconic that have held value and significantly increased. The amount of people that are just like durrrr supply and demand, I'm smart ! Hahaha 🤣 Just because you are wanting the track submodel of a vehicle does not dictate what the rest of the market wants. Many people enjoy having a grand sport or touring version of the car as it is a daily driver. Yeah bro that's a great idea let's make a bet some money over KZfaq comments lmao your a fucking nut. Also I really don't need to go into all of the details of why the c8 corvette is extremely impressive in all of its performance numbers, the thousands of headlines all of the world did that for me. But keep sucking on your c7 bro it's grest
@ShinyBlackRims
@ShinyBlackRims 2 жыл бұрын
@@brett2375 lol are you seriously this gullible or a troll? you just compared C8 to exotics. You know what the difference is between them? Supply. C8 will be spotted very easily almost on a daily basis. You have nothing to say other than "exotics" or "C8 so special with its performance numbers" Lol did you buy a C8 for 30k over MSRP? If so, good luck holding the bag and watching that thing depreciate 40k below purchase price unless you never drive the car. Explain to me again how "exotics" or "specialness" means C8 will hold inflated values like you think they will? You have no argument that's why you don't want to put anything on the line.
@Dukefazon
@Dukefazon 2 жыл бұрын
At some point the markup started to rise, topped and it's probably dropping now. If we were to visualize this bell shaped markup change with time, where was the point when you sold your C8? It was still on the rise, close to the top or started to fall?
@carcrazyv8403
@carcrazyv8403 2 жыл бұрын
And that’s how you make a good informative video. Keep up the good work. Good 👍
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertblaney5033
@robertblaney5033 2 жыл бұрын
When the new C7 came out, a person could walk into a dealer & get a nice discount off MSRP without even asking. Prices are crazy on everything right now. Supply will eventually catch up with demand & people that paid crazy markups will loose their shirts. That goes for just about every new vehicle on the market today
@giuseppesmith2320
@giuseppesmith2320 2 жыл бұрын
Good point I think the dealerships are going to take a loss to as well as those that fell for the mark ups will be upside down!
@aramistaboada5696
@aramistaboada5696 2 жыл бұрын
The ZO6 is going to be minimum of 90 thousand and that’s for a base with nothing on it . 2 I am on Mike Furnans list and he said they won’t start distributing them till next November. That’s a long way away . 3 They will build around 10 thousand ZO6 on there first year si the mark ups will 30 to 50 thousand dollars. When people see they can’t get the ZO6 the prices of the C8 will stay high because just like with C7 going up this year if you can’t get a C8 you get what you can , same thing would happen with the ZO6. I agree you won’t see 25 and 30 thousand mark ups , but I see 10 to 15 thousand. Btw I love the way you put out information your very composed and your information is extremely relevant. Just giving you my thoughts .
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻 You make some great points. I should've included in this video that there's definitely some optimism in my opinions shared here. Things could definitely be dragged out or delayed longer than anticipated like they have been so far.
@mcviegas2566
@mcviegas2566 2 жыл бұрын
I love what you're saying stay at MSRP. HELP ME! HELP US!
@Pmtd1234
@Pmtd1234 2 жыл бұрын
I am in the order queue for a Z06 at MSRP. IMHO those who cannot weight their turn, lack the self-discipline and end up throwing away $$$. But that is their choice.
@derekb5749
@derekb5749 2 жыл бұрын
I am in line to order. But the used car value is directly related to the over sticker purchases. The reason they are worth 20K more than new, used is because of the mark ups being paid. They don't make this car in mass volume. So the resale will stay high. You have to wait up to a year to get a car. I've been in line to ORDER since May. So at this point I am hoping to be able to place my order by the end of the year. There are still 350 people in line, ahead of me to ORDER. LOL.
@jerzyfilipek4100
@jerzyfilipek4100 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% - planning to buy 2025 lt1 convertible…
@gboss2147
@gboss2147 2 жыл бұрын
Good video man. You’re One of the few ppl taking sense. I think by the end of next year over msrp on c8s stingrays should mostly be a thing of the past. I’ve already noticed c7 z06s are in the 60ks again also. In terms of the c8 it would be in its 4th production year by then and if there are not as many constraints this year they should def make closer to 30-35k. I’ll be picking up a used c8 or a c7 z06 end of next year for sure!
@GAHDOOTY
@GAHDOOTY 2 жыл бұрын
I work at a dealer that does not mark up over MSRP and the longest a vehicle sat on the lot before paperwork was 2 days. The new model has not affected our allocations or priority. We received the same allocations as 2020/2021 and we still haven’t gotten an opportunity to order a 2022. Not to discredit your information, we received the same info and were very excited, then promptly disappointed.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight from a dealership perspective. That's really unfortunate to hear. Hopefully the new allocation model will be more noticable after your first 2022 is sold within a day or two. I doubt they're taking any 2021 sales into consideration.
@oceans6195
@oceans6195 2 жыл бұрын
I need to find a dealership for a 2022 Corvette that doesn't Mark up over MSRP that I can order and get in 2022..Help!!
@macwiller2105
@macwiller2105 2 жыл бұрын
I went and looked at a 3LT convertible Z51. It was in Ontario mind you, but the price was $153,000 or $120K USD. I backed away and went to the dealership and asked. The same car new was 10mth-a year and $120K CDN. Is the year wait worth the 30k? That's the problem up here.. I'm waiting for the Z06 first before I make a decision
@whatarushlod
@whatarushlod 2 жыл бұрын
By the comments listed, it seems some are not familiar with GM and past corvette models. Prices WILL come down! These aren’t Ferraris or Lamborghinis. These vehicles are mass produced on an assembly line. Covid, chip shortage, the strike.. they’re all factors. Remember the pricing on the C4 ZR1?? At one point they were thru the roof!! When normal production resumes on the C8 and prices come back to earth, there’s gonna be a lot of pissed off owners upside down and who are gonna take a serious hit financially when the ZO6 rolls out. And when that car comes out, just watch and see…. There’ll be C8s everywhere and prices will be back to normal.
@christopherhiralall8575
@christopherhiralall8575 2 жыл бұрын
One factor not mentioned is I've noticed some dealerships are offering Z06's to customers who have already bought a C8 first. My dealership did this with me and I of course said yes. I get to trade in my non-Z06 for a newer Z06 for no extra money. Its kind of like a Ferrari model - gotta own one to get one. Not saying this is wide spread or a good practice, just noticing.
@alansimkins4448
@alansimkins4448 2 жыл бұрын
The Law of Supply and Demand is always the issue Having purchased a 2020 3LT with Z51 package Convertible with All Carbon Fiber Ground Effects at the earliest possible time ,the wait time due to all the mentioned factors delayed delivery for over 18 months
@09c6z06
@09c6z06 2 жыл бұрын
When I look at the mark up it doesn’t take into account taxes and insurance. When I see a 20k markup I immediately cut it in half. A fully loaded z51 3lt comes in around 95k. Add taxes and insurance your at 103. I see comparable cars at corvette world for 125. I’m not sure what corvette world paid for the car but I can’t believe they wouldn’t net at least 5k. Shipping is another consideration plus interest on a initial purchase for the car unless everyone is paying cash. So in my view the profits people are listing are actually cut in half
@kenballsmittyvlogs1231
@kenballsmittyvlogs1231 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I’m going to get a C8 but not at this time. I agree that these prices will come down
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@racksontheway659
@racksontheway659 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you mind saying your source of income? C8 is my dream car but i dont know how to afford it
@dsmdriver2588
@dsmdriver2588 2 жыл бұрын
Sold my c8 1LT In Feb of this year for $27,000 over MSRP to CarMax.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Wow congrats 💰💰💰
@elicash315
@elicash315 2 жыл бұрын
Why would it hold it’s value? It’s JUST a corvette. Basically a car for guys that can’t afford the car they really want.
@alansimkins4448
@alansimkins4448 2 жыл бұрын
The wait was well worth it
@itsGravityy
@itsGravityy 2 жыл бұрын
GM also in the works to be in direct partnership with the chipmakers so that they can continue to produce new vehicles quicker. I think prices may slowly decline but not by a lot.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
That would be great. Hopefully they see more importance in being involved in their supply chain than in the past.
@theeverydayguy2938
@theeverydayguy2938 2 жыл бұрын
The current C8 market is nuts. If you keep an eye on the used listings, most ask $20k to $30k over original MSRP and it’s not selling. You see price drops left and right. While it’s not really possible to know what people are actually paying over for used ones we can talk a look at how much they sold for on BaT. If you look at the ones sold recently there they are about $5000 or so over. So all the used listing online now are all way overpriced.
@slimgaming6380
@slimgaming6380 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I didn’t even know you sold your car, do you miss it? Also very smart man selling it takes a lot to do that.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
I do miss it for sure. Excited about the next one though 😁
@nchellcatbadboy3625
@nchellcatbadboy3625 2 жыл бұрын
I've been on the c8 used market for a while now. And all the owners are marking them wayyyyy up hoping to get someone to buy. Not bcuz they're greedy butttt becuz they're tryna get payoff for em. That's why I don't understand why people buy any car that has a markup on them. It's just stupid imo. Just to be able to say look at me I have one 😆. U wanted to be a big willy now ENJOY. PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING THESE DEALERS RICH AND WAIT.
@wanderingdoc5075
@wanderingdoc5075 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Willy hah
@RalphPalomares
@RalphPalomares 2 жыл бұрын
i saw a C-8 for $50.000 over sticker in Carson Ca at a dealership ???? it said $50.000 mark up !!!!! for a total of $ 133.000 GM dont let this happem !!!!!!!!!!
@CarStory
@CarStory 2 жыл бұрын
The more C8 corvettes that roll of the assembly line, the more prices will fall back to a normal level.
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Car flipping is now a national industry within the United States, and its not going away. Its being treated in the same manner as bitcoin or graphics cards. This isnt just the C8, but any car that a consumer might want. This is also happening in the used market for econo boxes. We are deep into two years of this and its not going away anytime soon unless you see a major crash in the financial markets. Individuals with assets valued at a certain rate are able to borrow free of charge. They purchase assets to make quick profits. The assets at this point could be anything in limited supply, including econo boxes. A large demograhic is making this their fulltime jobs to FLIP ANYTHING. Its a very sad day for car enthusiast that cant stand being ripped off.
@allsportsexpert
@allsportsexpert 2 жыл бұрын
The new GM policy does nothing to reduce the markup since ALL C8 are presold with a premium. If the markup for C8 is 20K, just imagine what will be the markup for ZO6 coming out in a year.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
There's a dealership here in Greenville, SC that regularly has multiple unsold C8s sitting in their showroom with around $15-$20k markups. They seem to move them within a week or two, but they'd be sold same day at sticker price. Those are the dealerships that should be impacted by this change. www.kevinwhitaker.net/new-inventory/index.htm?model=Corvette%20Stingray
@georgevillanueva7696
@georgevillanueva7696 2 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC TUTORIAL
@_jamesbradley__
@_jamesbradley__ 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT 🔥
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@msn-hn9eb
@msn-hn9eb 2 жыл бұрын
Are the GT1 seats more comfortable for daily driving than the GT2 seats assuming they are both in a 2LT? I'm considering the LT3 but I can't choose GT1 seats and if they are more comfortable that's more important to me.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
GT2 seats look better and are just as comfortable if not more comfortable 👍🏻
@mndnmne
@mndnmne 2 жыл бұрын
Z06 is a very low volume produced car nor to mention gm us going to start to produce right hand drive c8's I think the market will remain super tight for a good while. I talked to my dealer I purchased my c8 stingray from at sticker (ordered 7/19) and he said I'd be looking at 25 over for the z06.
@geraldthomas5915
@geraldthomas5915 2 жыл бұрын
I paid MSRP for my 2021 2LT Z51 in March.
@reyros24
@reyros24 2 жыл бұрын
Wich dealer sold you at msrp? I am looking to pre order one
@geraldthomas5915
@geraldthomas5915 2 жыл бұрын
@@reyros24 Les Stanford Chevrolet in Dearborn MI.
@geraldthomas5915
@geraldthomas5915 2 жыл бұрын
@@reyros24 Goran Krstovski was my specialist.
@socalsean3425
@socalsean3425 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content
@abrahamrodriguez264
@abrahamrodriguez264 2 жыл бұрын
Got my c8 2021 for 68k out the door and sold it back to a dealer for 90k last month
@elit3268
@elit3268 2 жыл бұрын
Any hope at a decent lease in late December ‘21?
@zorazr192
@zorazr192 2 жыл бұрын
The Chevy dealership by my house is selling the Corvettes at MSRP. They said with the amount of names they have on the list the wait is around a year and a half
@msn-hn9eb
@msn-hn9eb 2 жыл бұрын
The dealers around me are the same. I called the 3 biggest corvette dealers in the US yesterday and they said the same. It should be interesting to see how this plays out.
@lender3000
@lender3000 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt that they will get their allocation filled. For those 'waiting' for the new Z06. Not every dealer will be able to get their hands on the new Z06. Only 10,000 will be made a year (if they can get the chips).
@edstingray3828
@edstingray3828 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered a 2022 MCRP from medium dealer a month ago.
@superchief15
@superchief15 2 жыл бұрын
Production is never going to pickup. They have never satisfied the initial demand. If you want to walk-in to a dealer and walk out with a C8 it is going to Cost You! If they were not greed I would already be in line for a new C8 ZO6 but the Stingray is already more car then you will ever need for the Street. When the Police come out of the basement and work traffic the C8s on the road that stop for police will be to expensive to drive on the street. A car this comfortable and this fast could have you in traffic court a lot if you don’t exercise self control! You can’t outrun a Radio!
@jazzsounds8159
@jazzsounds8159 2 жыл бұрын
30k over for a 1lt.💰💰🤦‍♂️
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy. 🤯
@gerryheckmann3167
@gerryheckmann3167 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe supply/demand will equalize that quickly. Just my opinion.
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely could be right. At this point all we have are theories and opinions. Just figured I'd share mine on the topic 👍🏻
@sbaby7008
@sbaby7008 2 жыл бұрын
Hell mine just got built it's still at the factory C8.R edition for $137.910.08 I doubt they will drop in price significantly but I could be wrong
@wanderingdoc5075
@wanderingdoc5075 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats when are you getting it?
@sbaby7008
@sbaby7008 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingdoc5075 thank you I picked her up back on October 23rd I try to find any reason to drive her 😆 this car is amazing , launch mode is pretty fun to do
@ronnieowenssr.1419
@ronnieowenssr.1419 2 жыл бұрын
I have a new 2022 order rapid blue blue mist 3lt convertible at my dealership probly spring
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth the wait 👍🏻
@redstingraycorvette
@redstingraycorvette 2 жыл бұрын
Like I’ve said on other sites the cars will be filling the lots soon and gm will be offering a discount to their employees soon
@brianw628
@brianw628 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck, all the big dealers are 9-18 months out for a c8. Wait lists are actually getting longer not shorter and more and more dealers are selling them for more that list. These cars will sell above msrp for along time to come unless there is some type of huge disasterous economic event
@wanderingdoc5075
@wanderingdoc5075 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the funny thing is used C6 and C7s are also up 20 to 40% thanks to money printer go burr. No end in sight but my real estate is making more than ever so I guess it all works out :) Now that I'm in my mid 30s I can more than afford all these cars but I want them less than I did in my twenties. That's ironic.
@uivideo7637
@uivideo7637 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@b.honest3729
@b.honest3729 2 жыл бұрын
Tired of waiting
@laoboy5
@laoboy5 2 жыл бұрын
Not me
@dcrump
@dcrump 2 жыл бұрын
So you sold it 🥲
@CalmingSoundZZZ
@CalmingSoundZZZ 2 жыл бұрын
I know right! But at least he's still making great content for us that still want one. The wait is making my build more expensive though 🤣
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. Couldn't resist since I got mine at 2020 sticker price. Looking towards either a convertible or a Z06 👍🏻
@CarsCostsandTechnology
@CarsCostsandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks. I still think about Corvettes all day. Just wanted to keep my options open for the Z06. Who knows though. I might get another Stingray. I loved that car 👍🏻
@user-iy3ct1ci3o
@user-iy3ct1ci3o 2 жыл бұрын
Dear followers!! Don't let the beautiful pictures confuse you . Anyone who buys a new car from GENERAL Motors the chance you threw your money into the trash is very large. In this company there is no customer service, the company's management does not care at all, if you have a problem or a malfunction, you can only pray to God there is a chance that the help will come faster. GM is a very dangerous company, be careful and keep your money safe.!!!Share so more people don't get screwed.GM is a big bluff
@raywalteroutdoors
@raywalteroutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
You should delete this and repost in like 2 years
@uivideo7637
@uivideo7637 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
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