I Have figured out some of the settings and I am getting MUCH better results from this camera. Check this Video out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/paqCobyXvZuUn6M.html
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
After doing some more testing on the bitrate it appears the H.265 codec is the reason the final bitrate was only around 50mbps instead of the advertised 100. You can in fact get 100mbps if you shoot in H.264 More testing and review coming soon.
@aaron6516 Жыл бұрын
Very happy to see more small HD cameras like this!! Very cool!!! I need to get out and fly some more...
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
You should! Thanks for watching.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Caddx has reached out to confirm they are currently working on a Firware and will send it to me when it is completed. Let hope this irons out some of the known issues.
@snoopyRC Жыл бұрын
I want to fly that spot. That was awesome.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Great spot for sure.
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Oh dang we can release the videos now? edit: never mind i kept watching haha
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
LOL, Yeah I guess I got lucky with the error in shipping. No NDA here!!! Thanks for watching Bot
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV haha rad, np thanks for making a video!
@josefdahari Жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same 🤣
@Rcschim Жыл бұрын
Haha, another one eager to release the video :) Technically no NDA here on my side as well - but I wanna play fair. And I felt so special when I realized that I had to be one of the first to have it delivered (which never happens normally to my channel).
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@Rcschim Well thats very honerable of you to wait. I on the other hand wanted to take advantage of the situation and try and use this opportunity to grow my little channel. I have only been at it for about 19 months and I NEVER get the opportunity to beat the mainstream to the punch. I figured It was all on the up and up so just go for it.
@CharlesGaluski Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to your final review.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey Charles thanks, Hopefully they fix the image issues. Caddx reached out and let me know they are working on a firmware.
@ThomasAndersonFPV Жыл бұрын
Caddx nailed it with this one, I think so! Looking forward to it
@ThomasAndersonFPV Жыл бұрын
And you with the Pre review
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@FPV Thomas Anderson yeah there are lots of permium features on this camera, if they actually iron out the video quality this will be a big deal for the community.
@ThomasAndersonFPV Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPVIv'e run the Orca in the beginning day, it used to be my bashing cam, besides the saturation ( which seems theire style) nothing wrong, and solid cam. It still works up-to this day. I have good hopes. Thanks for the highlights, your always up-to-date 🦾
@FlyZoneFpv Жыл бұрын
Nice homie . I was looking forward to that. Interesting. Can’t wait to see ya other review once they do the fw
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks man, I am excited to see if they iron out all the bugs as well.
@AponeFPV Жыл бұрын
Nice one dude been waiting for this, very interesting 👍
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
yeah lets see how it shakes out with a firmwarer update.
@poprobujsam Жыл бұрын
The picture is mush. 😱
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, lets hope they fix this with an update.
@BlkMambaFPV Жыл бұрын
This camera looks RAD!! In for the travel pack.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yeah lets hope they iron out some of the bugs and make it great. Thanks for watching.
@NomadAerial Жыл бұрын
The halo defect is a lens reflection caused by the glass protector or an ND filter. The bitrate you're seeing is the average bitrate. There is no longer a CBR spec in the codec. It can be forced in software such as ffmpeg but H.265 main is almost always VBR or CQ.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yes and yes, thanks for watching.
@NomadAerial Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV Well the camera piqued my interest as possible a cheaper alternative to GoPros for high risk flights. I appreciate the overview!
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@NomadAerial Yeah I am getting some great results with the latest firmware. Much better now. Check out the footage: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9tnf8Wonq_Tkas.html
@Wild_FPV Жыл бұрын
Doesn't look too bad compared to something like the Thumb Pro but it looks like this will be around $250 😬If they can fix some things in a new FW update like you mentioned this could be a really good option for a light-ish action cam to fly on our quads. Maybe even the session replacement we've been waiting for🤞 Very well done with the video! Concise and entertaining to watch, not a moment wasted 🙌
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks as always for the support, the camera is $150 so not too bad, If it gets the 100mbps update I think this could be a killer camera.
@Wild_FPV Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV Definitely...but $150, eh? Banggood and Makerfire both have it at $250 from what I'm seeing. Although it's on sale for $180 right now at Makerfire.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@Wild_FPV Huh strange, Maybe that is part of why they paused the release. I only paid $150 for the Walnut on Aliexpress.
@steamvogue Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV i ordered for this price but they then told me its 3 weeks to wait and not certain. I cancelled . and they removed offer. not its around 170+ to EU shipping
@FPVPRINTS Жыл бұрын
When we gapn the castle? 😆 ❤️
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
LOL, already did. Actually going to be doing a fly through the inside here soon.
@FPVPRINTS Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV that's 🔥
@SunriseWaterMedia Жыл бұрын
What an interesting situation you found yourself in. Ha ha cool!
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is actually the second time this has happened to me. It also happened with the iFlight Evoque. iFlight reached out to me and asked me where I got the drone from and I said "from you" It reminded me of that 80s drug commercial.... I learned it from you dad!!!
@SunriseWaterMedia Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV 🤣
@Makerfire Жыл бұрын
thank you for the video. do you mind we put your video link to our shop?
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yeah you can... But I am going to be a much better video soon that shows the true power of this camera. If you want you can use that.
@Makerfire Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV great thanks a lot
@DrMacca Жыл бұрын
Great first impressions. 👍
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😁
@Rcschim Жыл бұрын
Gyroflow: had this similar - but it's not always 5sec off (for me sometimes it was in the ms range, then again it was 1.2sec) Halo: this is simply the reflection of the lens cover glas (or ND filter). 4:3 has wider angle, 16:9 (in 4k at least) crops in - so you dont see as much... Nice fall colors there already - that radio tower is tempting to dive! I disagree: this one looks definitly better than the ThumbPro! It's almost as good as DJI Action2 imho - where it is better with Gyroflow than DJIs Rocksteady, but A2 is sharper and more polished in the UI, has screen - and could be had for around 40$ more :)
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the detailed response. Gyroflow: I think the 5 sec delay only happens when you start or stop recording via the app over WiFi. Not sure but that seems to be the case. Halo: I get why 4:3 is going that over 16:9 but non of my other cameras are this noticeable when I do 4:3. Fall is looking good here for sure, sad to see the leaves go. I just did a comparison between the Thumb Pro and Walnut, it is close but getting really good results out of the thumb: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5uDprOesODIZGQ.html I have not used the Action 2 yet but would love to try it. Checking out your channel now, Dropped a sub, Thanks again for the dialog, and have a great weekend. Lee
@Rcschim Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV will check your comparison later - curious how good your ThPro looks! In my last (full) video, check min 10 (the biplane) to see me using the Walnut with gyroflow. Just viewed footage from my walnut from flights yesterday. when looking against the sun in 4:3 the halo refleciton is quite bad - you're right. But since we gyroflow this and usually zoom in, it's mostly gone in the end... Now I'm off to the flightfield to chase some autumn scenes again ;) greets, Mario
@kavorka8855Ай бұрын
No audio tests 😬
@KoelAnderson Жыл бұрын
almost the entire image looks like it is completely out of focus. that could be due to your lowering the sharpness settings all the way though.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Good thought, I am actually testing now and it looks like this might be true. This is ODD, as I always use low sharpness on ALL of my cameras and add it in post. But it appears Caddx has a totally different definition of sharpness... LOL. I am uploading a new test soon. Thanks for watching.
@KoelAnderson Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV on the DJI Mavic Pro when you lower the sharpness it does the same thing, you get certain areas in focus and then a water color type of effect in other patches due to some secret noise reduction happening in camera. I would recommend experimenting with sharpness at 0 or +1
@mjodr Жыл бұрын
100 mbps h264 will not look better than 50 mbps h265. It will look nearly the same, because that's what h265 affords you: about half the bitrate for the same quality. If it looks that bad now, I don't think any firmware updates will help. The first issue is the optics. That lens and/or ND filter system are not working with that reverse vignette. Besides that, it just looks like the sensor itself isn't very good. They need to re-engineer it and release a version 2 with hardware updates probably. I bet they were under an unrealistic size constraint and made things too small to work properly. For example, on my SLR's/mirrorless cameras the sensor sits in the sweet spot of the lens and actually a lot of the outer perimeter of the glass is "wasted". I bet they tried to use the entire diameter of the optics and this is the result.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt great observations. I have actually been able to get some better results out of this with a few tweaks. I think you are right about the optics and sensor, there is NOTHING that can be done about the 4:3 halo. I usually film with low contrast saturation and sharpness and deal with this in post for the best results. But it appears Caddx uses the "Sharpness" Settings as a "detail" instead of actual sharpness. I tried setting the sharpness to High and got MUCH better results. I am going to try Normal tomorrow and see how this goes. Keeping in mind this is a cheap action camera I got some decent results by changing the sharpness settings. I think it is TOO sharp but the detail has returned. If they give a flat color profile and correct what sharpness actually means in their app I see potential here. As much potential as a cheap cam can provide. Here is an updated video I made: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/paqCobyXvZuUn6M.html
@mjodr Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV That footage is way better. Bit less saturation and it would be pretty nice. Lens flares are still a giveaway that there is still something up with the optics, but not as bad.
@p.1206 Жыл бұрын
Lets hope they maintain it. They abandoned the Caddx Orca
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yes lets hope, I think there is lots of potential here.
@pdtech4524 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a GoPro Session alternative.👍
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Could be as long as they sort out the image quality issues. thanks for watching.
@DanishStallion Жыл бұрын
cool sounds promising!
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
yeah I think so too.
@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын
You said gyro flow support and my ears perked up. Is it me or the image looks soft, almost out of focus. Image isn't bad though for what I assume to be a relative cheap price.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yeah it has lots of potential. I am testing different settings to make it not look so soft. I ALWAYS turn sharpness down on ALL of my cameras and add it in post, But this one appears to make the image look out of focus. Testing now new upload coming soon. Thanks for watching.
@KimboFPV Жыл бұрын
Great video! I did the same thing as you...Saw Alberts video, and bought it right away...i bought it for freestyle flippy floppies no gyroflow/ not- stabilized footie.......when i need reelsteady/gyro flow I'll ise my GoPro 9 or 10.....I'm hoping this Walnut is nice and durable.....Thx for the password
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching. I think it may hold up if you use a good mount. But we will have to see.
@GregSupe Жыл бұрын
very neat
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@stevend12 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see how this camera performs at night in a lit carpark environment. Is it possible to do a quick test?
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching. Yes I will try a low light rest here soon, Stay tuned.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Okay Steven, Ii made a video just for you... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLOSbMeH2tmsdJs.html
@SirCrashaLot Жыл бұрын
Not sure who sets goals, but good flat footy never makes it :/ Am I the only person who would pick high bitrate flat QHD and forget about 4k? No need to chase the numbers if you ask me (unless its bitrate that is :))
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
I am right there with you, I am really hoping they will add 100mbps before official release, That and the flat profile would make a huge difference. I am getting some really good results with the THUMB pro and it is only 50MBPS but it has a flat profile.
@SirCrashaLot Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV So I am torturing GO2 on my racer for over a year now, when it dies I might look into thumb pro. It will die, indoor racing season and all :)
@LuFpv Жыл бұрын
se con un nuovo firmware correggono i problemi, sarà un buon prodotto
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Sono totalmente d'accordo. Ha tutte le caratteristiche che vorresti. Speriamo solo di correggere la qualità dell'immagine.
@jackofalltrades8212 Жыл бұрын
Why can't we get a camera like this that records in 12bit or higher RAW? Or ProRes or something that's way less compressed than h.265/4.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Man I wish, I would love something small that could do RAW.
@KoelAnderson Жыл бұрын
thats like asking why can't they fit a ferrari engine into a hot wheels
@mjodr Жыл бұрын
Besides the storage requirements becoming astronomical the actual hardware horsepower required to do it draws a lot of power. This thing has a power budget. Plus, at a certain point you start maxing out the bandwidth of regular SD cards. It's easy to naively want them to throw cinema quality features on these small cameras, but there is a reason why cinema cameras are so big and power hungry. I, too, used to wonder why all cameras aren't just throwing out ProRes 4444 or DNxHR 444 by now, until I saw what it physically took to throw that many bits down a pipe.
It defiantly looks promising if they att a flat profile and 100mbps. But honestly I am getting WAY better results out of the $90 runcam thumb pro right now. See example: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f8-lp7WdvK66qps.html
@velkrofpv6654 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV same here. My last 2 videos are of my modded Thumb pro. I've been very pleased with it.. for its cost
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@velkrofpv6654 Nice, just dropped a sub on your channel, How do you like that lens mod?
@velkrofpv6654 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV appreciate that! I like it a lot except the no ND filter hurdle. I did manage to rig up something but it didn't allow for quick changes of filters so I just run it without. Wish runcam would have just put a better Fov lens in from the get go. Maybe the next version will be better.
@Gray_Beard Жыл бұрын
How does it compare with run cam orange? Which one do you like more when it comes to the image and the ease of Gyroflow compatibility?
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
It is better than the orange due to wireless connectivity, better resolution and dynamic range and yes you can use gyroflow.
@timmytson1 Жыл бұрын
That halo ring tho 😪
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yeah I know, it is bad, I have been filming in 16:9 to avoid this so far.
@kenleyplumbing4957 Жыл бұрын
I ordered one from Pyrodrone 11/13, got it 11/15, nothing works. Unable to find any info on the Caddx website, no full manual available, no firmware, the camera isn't even listed. Emailed Caddx support, they emailed a pdf version of the full manual and a link to the firmware file in google docs. The firmware update went nothing like described in the manual, and still the same problems. App freezes, video preview is black, huge delay when using app to start/stop recording if it works at all, starts recording randomly on it's own when moving through the app, video files don't play back in the app. Blown away that a company would release a product with so many problems, it is useless for it's intended purpose. Selling a product that doesn't function as described and promising it will work in the future.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you are having trouble with it. I know my contact at Caddx said it has not been officially released yet that is why it is not on their site yet. I agree it was a strange launch or half launch. I have not had any issues with mine so far, maybe you got a bad unit. Send it back
@kenleyplumbing4957 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV Pyrodrone is on it, they are contacting Caddx to get it resolved. Sounds like (hopefully) it's an isolated case, just very frustrating to buy a product that doesn't work as expected, and has so many issues.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
I can understand that, you are not the first person to tell me they are having issues with their unit. Mine has been sold so far so hopefully your next will be as well
@oof-fpv8932 Жыл бұрын
Have you gotten yours to work I'm having the same issues
@kenleyplumbing4957 Жыл бұрын
@@oof-fpv8932 No luck, Caddx tried to say that I downloaded the wrong app even though there was only one on the App Store. They would never clarify how I was downloading the wrong app, and it was seeming like a lot if guessing and blaming me for doing something wrong. They finally refunded me. They didn't request me to return it, so I still have it, would be awesome if it got sorted out. iPhone 13, 16OS, 4.0 camera firmware.
@MatthewTaylor3 Жыл бұрын
Folks this is the same thing as the RunCam Orange based on Albert Kim's video. The image sensor is the same
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
yeah except this can film at 4k60 also support 4:3, has wifi and preview support, detachable ND Filters, and magnetic charging sooo... Not exactly the same is it.
@MatthewTaylor3 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV I still feel Runcam held back by not implementing 4K 60 on the Orange via a firmware update.
@creatorTWin Жыл бұрын
Seems underwhelming and like a failed launch product to me - was hoping for more.
@overtorquednut Жыл бұрын
@@creatorTWin The Thumb Pro had pretty gimped firmware when it came out, and then it got noticeably better after a few updates. Happens all the time...
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@creatorTWin I would totally agree. If the image quality and general functionality doesn't get ironed out I will not be keeping it. But if they can truly deliver on the 100 megabit and deliver a better image I'm all in
@chennibyo7 ай бұрын
does it record audio? what does it sound like?
@puerco911 Жыл бұрын
This one and runcam 5 the stabilization is pretty dissapointing in both
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you on that, I am getting great results, here is one I just did: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMqZa6qAxrvYhqM.html
@puerco911 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV it's easy for a drone, try to stabilize video from a wing, it does a terrible job compared to gopro
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@puerco911 Hmm thats interesting. If you want to e-mail me a clip I would be interested in the problem. theadventurefpv@gmail.com
@Gl_uk Жыл бұрын
I see bad focus around the edges and peresharp. colors are bright but not natural
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Maybe...
@likebliss Жыл бұрын
What filter options are there? I'm wondering if a flat option would make it less contrasty?
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
The "Filter" options are LAME, its black and white, brown and something else. I am actually trying some different settings that may help. Caddx also sent me a message and said they are working on a new firmware and will send it to me for testing soon. Stay tuned for more test.
@likebliss Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV Oh sweet! Are you suggesting that they will have a flat profile?
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@likebliss Not sure yet, they did not give me any details, But I really hope so.
@mjodr Жыл бұрын
If you are shooting in a flat profile then it's up to you to not make it "too contrasty" in your final color grade. It literally cannot be contrasty if that was what you were doing, lol.
@likebliss Жыл бұрын
@@mjodr I was using his vocabulary of calling it contrasty. I'm trying to determine whether the dynamic range is shit, or they just pumped the contrast too high in camera and clip the highlights and shadows, and maybe there's some lateral info to recover.
@Waikhom007 Жыл бұрын
price?
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
I am hearing mixed things. I paid $150 but I also see it listed at $180
@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын
this camera quality is terrible...😵 wouldnt buy it for 10 bucks. wondering how they wanna fix all the issues with the physical lens with firmware but ok... let them try.
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hope they add 100MBPS and add saturation and contrast control or at least give us a flat color profile. This would solve most of the issues. As far as the light ring or halo, I am not sure what can be done about this, I guess film in 16:9 instead. I will keep everyone updated because it would be a great cheap option if they can iron that all out.
@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureFPV agreed. lets see what the update brings. for now i consider the result as unusable even if i get it as gift i could not use it for ANYTHING in my mind
@mjodr Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They can't fix that lens system with firmware, lol.