'Never Send Flowers' Book Review | 007 Goes to Disneyland (No, Really...)

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Calvin Dyson

Calvin Dyson

Жыл бұрын

Ever wanted to know what an early 90s literary Bond would think of Disney theme parks? No? Well, you're going to find out!
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@rogerrambo4172
@rogerrambo4172 Жыл бұрын
I met John Gardner on a school trip to a book signing & speech he gave in Liverpool for the release of his Goldeneye novelisation in 1996. He was a miserable bastard. I would say 90% of the audience were kids so when it came to the Q&A part it was mainly kids asking him who his favourite Bond actor was, favourite movie etc. After a while he said "look I'm not here to talk about the bloody Bond movies ok? I've only seen half a dozen of them & 2 of them were the ones I've wrote the novelisations of". Another kid then asked him what was more difficult writing his own books or novelisations & he said "ok, I'm sorry but I'm not answering any more questions from children, I'm not Roald Dahl & I don't normally do school events". The best part was the book signing, he was obviously plastered on whiskey & wanted to get the signing done so he could get to the bar & only intended to do around 25mins of signing but there was a queue of kids who had bought the Goldeneye book & were waiting to get it signed but he got up & said "no, I'm sorry that's all " & a little girl at the front of the queue got upset & her dad grabbed him, sat him back down In his chair & said "they've been waiting all morning, sign the fucking things" & Gardner terrifiedly sat down & did another half hour or so of signing. I've never been able to get through one of his books, they are GODAWFUL
@craigboycrook4542
@craigboycrook4542 Жыл бұрын
Classic 😂 ❤❤❤
@james__page
@james__page Жыл бұрын
Great story - for context though, at this time his wife was dying of oesophagus cancer at their home in Virginia so being away from her for a UK publicity tour was probably the last thing he wanted. The medical costs almost bankrupted him. She passed away a couple of months after this event ^ @calvindyson the backdrop to Gardner's life at the time of writing his final books is pretty dark
@orbisrex
@orbisrex Жыл бұрын
I doubt very much that any of this is true.
@rogerrambo4172
@rogerrambo4172 Жыл бұрын
@@orbisrex why would I make it up?
@orbisrex
@orbisrex Жыл бұрын
@@rogerrambo4172 There are just a few things that sound off. John Gardner was a recovering alcoholic all his life. He last had a drink in 1959. So your comments about him not being able to wait until he could get a drink are mere speculation. He knew he could never drink again as it would kill him if he started on it again. Comments like that are very insensitive and not something to joke about. I've interacted with Mr Gardner in the past by email and he seemed like a perfect gentleman who always had time for his fans. This account doesn't sit right with me.
@menkomonty
@menkomonty Жыл бұрын
I bet Bond wouldn't be singing Disneyland's praises if he stayed at that Star Wars hotel that bombed big time.
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 Жыл бұрын
Right?! I love Star Wars but not enough to spend THOUSANDS cosplaying it for a weekend. The way it was set up, most people could do a Galactic Starcruiser stay OR a Disney vacation...no way could they afford both, and who wants to go to Disney World and not take full advantage of the Disney parks? The second I read about, I thought "they're shooting themselves in the foot with a laser blaster." If they'd made it into a "dinner cruise" (that is, an immersive restaurant/dinner theater experience), they might have done better.
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 Жыл бұрын
I've been to Disneyworld, Florida a couple of times but now I want to go to Disneyland, Paris because it's been endorsed by James Bond.
@BenCol
@BenCol Жыл бұрын
Maybe said endorsement was what helped the park succeed after it almost closed.
@harryherman5371
@harryherman5371 Жыл бұрын
Never knew the difference
@dondevice8182
@dondevice8182 Жыл бұрын
It is pretty great
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 Жыл бұрын
@@dondevice8182 Never been there, but I'd go just for Phantom Manor (their version of The Haunted Mansion) alone.
@michaelpoplawski2998
@michaelpoplawski2998 11 ай бұрын
I will be there in a few weeks. This will put a new spin on my Disney experience. Slip-on shoes and attache case at the ready,
@Cyklopz007
@Cyklopz007 Жыл бұрын
LOL! This was too good! A movie adaptation of this is how they should reboot the franchise.
@c17sam90
@c17sam90 Жыл бұрын
I want James Bond wearing the Mickey Mouse ears in the gun barrel sequence
@slatestravels
@slatestravels 10 ай бұрын
“My name is Mickey Mouse” -James Bond in Spectre
@markhoare4733
@markhoare4733 Жыл бұрын
Just the thought of James Bond going toe to toe with Pluto or Goofy 😂 Thank you for that picture. Brilliant as ever.
@billkoenig1552
@billkoenig1552 Жыл бұрын
At the 1995 official James Bond convention in New York City, Michael G. Wilson criticized Gardner publicly for using Disneyland as a story location.
@nothingtoseehere2336
@nothingtoseehere2336 Жыл бұрын
This would be the same Michael G Wilson who thought it was a good idea to make James Bond Blofeld's adopted brother.
@astrosquirrel5038
@astrosquirrel5038 Жыл бұрын
The Country Bear Jamboree being a front for SPECTRE would be an awesome story. I’d pay to see that.
@WoobooRidesAgain
@WoobooRidesAgain Жыл бұрын
Considering what an utter mess Euro Disney was around the time of its opening (if you aren't aware, Defunctland does an amazing job at covering the chaos) and the general harebrained promotional schemes Michael Eisner came up with, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if someone under his authority tried to turn a James Bond novel, of all things, into pure product placement.
@JoeWritesThis
@JoeWritesThis Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for "Snow White and the Double-0 Seven Dwarfs".
@thedorios
@thedorios Жыл бұрын
The Bond Girl and the Blofeld Bondwhite and the 007 dwarfs Bondarella losing his crystal tuxedo I can go on all day
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 Жыл бұрын
I've said something along these lines before, but...maybe the Disneyland thing would've worked better if it had been less "clumsy product placement" and more of Bond's sense that this place is something of a haven from the moral ambiguity and difficult trade-offs he has to deal with in his line of work...that it's something of a relief to lose himself, even for a little while, in a place where good and evil are clearly defined and evil is always defeated. That he envies the children enjoying Disneyland their innocence in believing in it so wholeheartedly...and that he hopes that they, in their adult lives, somehow keep a little bit of this dream, in a way he never could.
@sgtfrozty
@sgtfrozty Жыл бұрын
Bond himself bringing up the "there's a child in all of us" speech? Slide whistles, gondola riding and tsunami kite surfing doesn't sound as bad now.
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
"Grow up 007, I don't have time for your juvenile quips".
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
Gardner has certainly put into perspective a lot of things I used to consider the 'worst' decisions in Bond histoy 😅
@sgtfrozty
@sgtfrozty Жыл бұрын
@calvindyson I thought mind control ice cream was possibly the most ridiculous thing he'd written up til now, but I was strangely all for that, I liked it.
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
@@sgtfrozty I mean, I'd do anything for a Cornetto. Wouldn't most people?
@astrosquirrel5038
@astrosquirrel5038 Жыл бұрын
Makes the double-take pigeon look gritty by comparison.
@frostyfoster6056
@frostyfoster6056 Жыл бұрын
Now I want a Bond Theme Park ride!
@adotgif
@adotgif Жыл бұрын
There was one, at King's Island in Ohio. Never made it. Apparently it was a first person Star Tours / Theater Seats Shaking style ride
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
@@adotgif It was at London's Trocadero also.
@spencerkindra8822
@spencerkindra8822 Жыл бұрын
On an episode of the James Bonding podcast back in 2017, the hosts Matt Gourley, Matt Mira, and guest Paul Scheer came up with ideas for what they wanted a James Bond amusement park to look like haha.
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 Жыл бұрын
If Disney ever acquired the rights to Bond... "No one thrills like James Bond, No one kills like James Bond, No one runs up his foes' doctor's bills like James Bond!"
@andrewpragasam
@andrewpragasam Жыл бұрын
I think Roger Moore's Bond might have enjoyed Disneyland. And probably hit on the Disney princesses.
@Farzad117
@Farzad117 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of snow white lol
@danpeek4301
@danpeek4301 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Disneyland would be Bond's cup of tea. He'd much prefer wandering around the wildfowl park in Pepperstock with a bottle of scotch
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
He'd prefer Disneyland...bye!
@GermanLeftist
@GermanLeftist Жыл бұрын
Dragonpol is such a bad name for a villain in a world where DragonBall exists. I seriously always imaged Son Goku when Calvin mentioned the villain.
@DarthRushy
@DarthRushy Жыл бұрын
Something I really appreciate about idiosyncratic books like these is that they create a relationship between the reader and the author. The story isn't nearly as relevant as learning about how the author thinks and what he prioritizes.
@PaulBurgin
@PaulBurgin Жыл бұрын
Bond in Disneyland! Next thing we will see a Bond story where there is an epic space battle with laz.... Oh!
@louisdellalucca8969
@louisdellalucca8969 Жыл бұрын
Nothing fills me with as much joy as seeing Calvin review a Gardner Bond Book. Not because the books are good, but he’s such a wonderful KZfaqr that I could watch him review anything
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you and does somewhat help give me some motivation to finish these books! 😂 thank you very much!
@louisdellalucca8969
@louisdellalucca8969 Жыл бұрын
@@calvindyson you’re almost done. Hopefully the GoldenEye novelization is better
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 Жыл бұрын
M always travels a lot. Bernard Lee's M showed up in Japan, Hong Kong, Egypt, Venice, South America, and even Bond's flat.
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
This is very true actually, I've been unfair to Dench's M about this in the past!
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
It's a deleted scene but I did like how Robert Brown's M goes to Paris to personally bale Bond out rather than send Q or Moneypenny! He also travels to the USA to confront Bond in Licence to Kill.
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja It's an elaborate con: 1) Hire this "secret agent" who always leaves a trail of very public destruction in his wake. 2) Send him to classy or exotic locations you've always wanted to visit. 3) Oh, what's that? 007 has gone rouge in Miami? "sigh" I suppose I'll have to go and sort this out myself again...
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
Well, he walks from set to set at Pinewood.
@justanantico6327
@justanantico6327 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine a well-dressed British man in Disneyland tackling and beating the living daylights out of Goofy, man...
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
He has form for pulling his gun on parents and children in amusement parks.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that scene in Van Damn's Sudden Death set around an ice hockey game where he fights the Penguin Mascot!
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja Lol. I wonder if Bond would have mistaken a little girl at Euro Disney for that assassin from The Living Daylights who impersonates a child and carries an explosive Teddy Bear.
@DukeNukem2417
@DukeNukem2417 Жыл бұрын
Got this book from a library giveaway; I enjoyed it. Picturing Timothy Dalton as Bond wandering around EuroDisney Paris is...well, it is what it is.
@MarvellousLookingBeggar
@MarvellousLookingBeggar Жыл бұрын
Calvin, when you started reviewing the Gardner books I described him as a writer who never met a plot contrivance he didn't like and this book with its evil twins switching identities, is peak crazy. What little I recall of Seafire is that it was more grounded and I never read COLD.
@TrumbullComic
@TrumbullComic Жыл бұрын
I can kinda-sorta see Roger Moore's Bond enjoying Disneyland, but that's about it.
@PassTheMarmalade1957
@PassTheMarmalade1957 Жыл бұрын
I love this book's bold-faced contrivance of throwing Princess Diana into the plot to fit the "Saving the princess from the dragon" analogy, but why not just go all in and have Dragonpol hold her hostage in a Disney princess costume? Bond runs out of bullets and has to grab a sword from the souvenir shop. Dragonpol has a flamethrower. Damn it, the analogy still isn't obvious enough! Have M bring it up again!
@Beingjamesbond
@Beingjamesbond Жыл бұрын
These reviews are seriously making me want to check out the Gardner books!
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
DON'T DO IT JOE! 😂😂 ... Or maybe do it? I'd love to hear your thoughts on these!
@BenCol
@BenCol Жыл бұрын
The knowledge that 'the one where Bond goes to Disneyland' was on the horizon kept me going throughout the darkest parts of the Gardner era. I was just so curious as to how mad it would be I had to read it. And yes, I felt it didn't ring true at all: despite Bond railing against Americana in Diamonds are Forever, here he is singing the praises of perhaps the most American Americana that ever America-ed. I sent a photo of the pages to a friend and he replied "it reads like a press release!" But I agree that it is kinda so-bad-it's-good. At the very least its villain and his scheme are memorable, which is more than what could be said about 75% of most Gardner books. I agree with what you said about Gardner writing Bond. It's the reason why I think Gardner is the weakest continuation author (that I've read - I haven't read Carte Blanche but I've heard mixed things about that one). Just that sense of Bond as a cool, suave, stylish, sexy guy - I never get any of those adjectives from Gardner's Bond. He feels more like Alan Partridge at times. I feel the better continuation authors are the ones who got a grasp of who Fleming's Bond was and, even if their prose style isn't like Fleming's, still make you feel like it's the same guy. I'm currently in the Benson era and, even though Benson isn't the best author in the world, he knows how to write the character and it rings true to who Bond is. But Gardner's Bond feels like another guy wearing Bond's skin.
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
I have to admit, the Disneyland thing was what has kept me going too (as well as the LTK and GE novelisations!) Alan Partridge is exactly how I read some of Gardner's writing. Especially when he's referring to some outdated 80s technology etc...
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Alan Partridge trying to write a James Bond style novel was an episode in the recent 'Oasthouse' series and it was...something!
@BenCol
@BenCol Жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja Haven't listened to that but I might just have to now.
@andrewchapman4267
@andrewchapman4267 Жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is... Gardner needs to Stop Getting Bond Wrong!
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. A 'stock mystery/catch a killer novel with James Bond shoehorned in' is I suppose a change from a 'stock action/spy novel with James Bond shoehorned in'. Perhaps it isn't a coincidence Silence of the Lambs with Hannibal Lecter was released in 1991 shortly before this would have been written. Gardner did write several detective novels including a trilogy with Professor Moriarty as the lead!
@Martyn2021
@Martyn2021 Жыл бұрын
The plot of this book sounds like a old episode of the comedy mystery show Jonathan Creek, as they had a story were one half of double act (comprised of twin sisters) takes on her others whole life.
@callummoore6962
@callummoore6962 Жыл бұрын
Calvin reviewing a Garner book? Always a treat especially from someone who is not a fan of these books......
@chrishewson4283
@chrishewson4283 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a brilliantly mad book! I wonder what Gardner's Bond books would be like if he leaned into the camp more. Also, I think you may be surprised on the Flicka front. 😉
@klaudiagrob
@klaudiagrob Жыл бұрын
The concept of Bond going to the Disneyland is ridiculous. I can't imagine Bond enjoying rides even as a child.. At the same time every author will have their own perception of Bond. They won't really do Fleming continuation because they have their own ideas.
@bensneb360
@bensneb360 Жыл бұрын
If James Bond doesn’t dress up on a Mickey Mouse outfit and fight villains, I’ll be disappointed lol
@noxida1
@noxida1 Жыл бұрын
You're doing us all a solid Calvin. I tapped out after the 5th or 6th Gardner book, I just couldn't do it anymore. I moved on to Benson and the modern continuation authors and had a much greater time. Bond in Disneyland not being Gardner's jump the shark moment because that happened like 5 books ago is crazy haha.
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
Gardner really has now turned into the Alan Partridge of Bond authors. His praising of mediocre brands suggests he's either been overloaded with superficially damaged Chocolate Oranges, or he's trying to bag a free Granite Kitchen. From singing the praises of the Saab 900 to shamelessly honeytonguing Euro Disney in nauseating detail it's akin to Partridge describing his fantasy life eating a giant bowl of Alpen while living alongside the world's largest collection of Hatchbacks.
@matthewkresal6810
@matthewkresal6810 Жыл бұрын
Re: The twin brother twist - This was written in the pre-internet age and it’s easy to forget how easy it was to keep things quiet if you really wanted to. The Kennedy family, for example, had one of JFK’s sisters undergo a botched lobotomy in the 1930s and kept it largely under wraps even into the 1970s. The Royal Family had two of Queen Elizabeth II’s cousins institutionalized in the 1940s and reported dead in the 1960s, only for one of them to live well into the 1980s, a fact that only really became public knowledge around the time Never Send Flowers was published (and maybe that was part of the inspiration for this plot). It’s a twist that works in the context of when the novel was written, but less so as time’s gone on. I have to admit, though, that this is one of my favorite Gardner Bonds (along with Icebreaker, funnily enough). Partly because it feels quite cinematic thanks to the plot and writing (though Bond actually enjoying Disney remains a bit odd!). And it feels like Gardner was actually enjoying writing this one, compared to some of the others, and I think that helps me as a reader, as well. But I haven’t read this is a long time, but I want to revisit this one now so thanks Calvin!
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Additionally, Michael Caine had a half brother who spent all his life in a psychiatric hospital as he suffered from epilepsy. His mother keep his existence such a secret that Caine himself had no idea he existed until a newspaper discovered the story in the early 90's [he noted the irony of the hospital being called 'Cane Hill'].
@tv-ladik
@tv-ladik Жыл бұрын
🤣Gardner has still a few surprises in store in SeaFire and COLD. I can't wait for your reviews of those!
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 Жыл бұрын
The way you said “Acknowledgements” at the beginning sounded so much like you were in the middle of a sentence that I dragged the slider back to the beginning, thinking it had already started somehow.
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames Жыл бұрын
Sound like Bond was enjoying a Moonraker moment on that Star Wars ride.
@thebookbond
@thebookbond Жыл бұрын
Once again we are in sync Calvin! I sometimes think you and I are the only Bond fans who have actually read these books. Back in the day I suspect most got their canned opinions from the reviews and overviews in OO7 Magazine and the like. You're high opinion of Brokenclaw convinced me. And now the infamous Disneyland book being more fun that one might think. Thanks for doing these. I feel less alone in the lit Bond world!
@emmalaw4719
@emmalaw4719 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your opinions on this one 😂
@DamnFoolIdealisticCrusader
@DamnFoolIdealisticCrusader Жыл бұрын
I knew you’d have a field day with the ending EuroDisney commercial. I like the addition of a stronger love interest, but some aspects of this book were quite bizarre. It was especially weird that Bond was suddenly trying to find a serial killer for a while, and then we get to the villain aaaaaaand….none of this book gels at all. But you are very wrong in thinking that things don’t get crazier. Everything in Gardner’s tenure combined does not even begin to approach the pure crazy that is ColdFall.
@SnowyOwlKonnen
@SnowyOwlKonnen Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I'm not entirely against the idea of Bond going to Disneyland if it was done a bit differently. Like if he just found out about the who the assassination target is and the assassination location on the very day it's meant to happen, and him rushing to the park , with no way of communicating back on what's happening. Making his way in and trying to figure out either where in the park it'll happen in or trying to find David within the crowd of visitors and employees. Contrasting the tension with the stereotypical joyfulness of the park, remembering a clue involving some of David Dragonpol's newer animatronics and heading into one of the rides and stopping the assassination just in time. Then finally dealing with David afterwards. But yeah, how it's done in the book itself does sound more like an advertisement than just a being real world place that is used in a fun/clever way.
@DabionFreedom
@DabionFreedom Жыл бұрын
A excellent new review of a John Gardner James Bond book. I want to read immediately, thank you. Calvin. :)
@nicholashoward7251
@nicholashoward7251 Жыл бұрын
I respect you doing this Calvin. I really do. It has saved me from the temptation of ever reading any of John Gardiner's books
@lil_dak_1587
@lil_dak_1587 Жыл бұрын
The book review I've been most excited to hear.🎉
@MrSuperphil
@MrSuperphil Жыл бұрын
Love your Bond book’s reviews.
@TheZoProductions
@TheZoProductions Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when Beverly Hills Cop 3 which took place at an amusement park.
@markbunn4376
@markbunn4376 Жыл бұрын
I have had bad couple of days, then I watched this, just cheered me up no end!!!
@nickryan4126
@nickryan4126 Жыл бұрын
Calvin, chronologically Goldeneye should be read as the final Gardner novel.
@thomasanderson2757
@thomasanderson2757 Жыл бұрын
James Bond and Disney is the most epic cross over ever made
@bigbaddaddyo9230
@bigbaddaddyo9230 7 ай бұрын
Never Send Flowers was my very first Bond book I read back when I was still little. It definitely has its problems but Never Send Flowers does at least have a special place in my heart for being my introduction to the Bond novels during a time when I actually didn't know he was originally a book character
@jammontgomery2320
@jammontgomery2320 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the plot, this featured one of my favorite Bond Girls in Flicka Von Grusse! She's so amazing, and her relationship with Bond was very believable, she's up there along with Vesper Lynd, Tiffany Case, Honey Ryder and Gala Brand, a top 5 Bond girl for me! And yes, she surpassed (or maybe even better than) Tracy for me, in terms of character and romance.
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Жыл бұрын
Don't suppose youve ever seen Beverly Hills cop 3 where Axel goes to a Disney Land inspired park called 'Wonder World'? reminds me of this book haha Imagine now if Disney bought James Bond instead of AMAZON and they decided to open a new attraction thats in the theme of James Bond and you have all the villains layers, a stunt show, and people dressed in James Bond style clothes. Heck they'll have over 25 new additions of Disney Villains to their list :) OH GOD but imagine the Bond girls go to the Disney Princess list :( OH no imagine a Bond movie with a Disney Musical twist AHHHHHHHH
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
This is a bit of a shameful admission but I dont think I've seen any of the Beverly Hills Cop films... I maaaay have seen the first one when I was much younger but I've been meaning to get around to watching them for some time! :D
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Жыл бұрын
@@calvindyson Oh poo haha. hope you do one day mate. heres the james bond ride behind the scenes i was talking about by the way kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbloYLmevMiYk2w.html&ab_channel=RetroVHSGamingVideos
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
​@@calvindyson The original film has Stephen Berkoff from Octopussy as the villain! He was also a Russian villain in Rambo 2 around the same time.
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja VERY good point as always james. as well as a young Mike from 'Breaking Bad' so this movie deserves some acknowledgment. I hope you got see the link for the 007 ride by the way? sometime youtube links don't appear in comment scetions because of spam. all the best as alway :)
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
​@@DafyddBrooks There's a chapter about this in one of the Bond Ref Books. I think it's James Bond The Secret History by Sean Egan. They shot it on 70mm. In fact a Gun-Barrell promoting the ride stayed up on the wall at the Trocadero in London years after it's closure, with no context (the walkway to Piccadilly Circus Tube Station where it was is no longer publicly accessible due to The Trocadero closing).
@joeberryman3563
@joeberryman3563 Жыл бұрын
"Ciao, Mickey Mouse!"
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
The Bond Files reference Book 'What is John Gardner's obsession with Andrew Lloyd Webber's Cats as the show's slogan 'Now and Forever' turns up every time he describes a London Scene'! And of course this classic line 'She [Flicka] could have called him [Bond] Dickbrain and he would have still smiled at her happily'!
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
At least we were spared the mental image of Bond fighting Brian Blessed, Actually hang on!
@SeekOutWisdom
@SeekOutWisdom Жыл бұрын
“Don’t worry, you’ll never see Flicka again.”
@gazzamedia
@gazzamedia Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've read any of the Gardner Bonds, the last one I remember actually reading was Never Send Flowers. I remember enjoying it at the time but I was a teenager which probably explains a lot! Maybe I should grab a copy of Seafire and read on with you? 😅
@kevint1719
@kevint1719 Жыл бұрын
As Margaret Thatcher once said, when she wasn't talking to a parrot, "No. No. No."
@davidcrim7025
@davidcrim7025 Жыл бұрын
Now picture the Daniel Craig Bond wearing a pair of mouse ears while riding the teacup ride.
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 Жыл бұрын
Or on It's A Small World. Especially if the ride stops, but the soundtrack doesn't... (When I brought up the possibility on a Bond message board, another poster said that happened to them so often they didn't even go on the damn thing anymore. They went on to say that this never seemed to happen on The Haunted Mansion so they could at least enjoy "Grim Grinning Ghosts" for a while...)
@KatarnCrusader
@KatarnCrusader Жыл бұрын
It's the most wonderful time of the month!
@matthewgoodsell480
@matthewgoodsell480 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but James Bond is a hardened, cold-hearted government assassin. He would not be seen dead in Disneyland.
@MrAlsachti
@MrAlsachti Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the non-canonical John Gardner sequel: "Never send flowers again"... Sorry (' -_-)
@PurushaDesa
@PurushaDesa Жыл бұрын
James Bond Goes to Beverly Hills Cop 3.
@captainAlex258
@captainAlex258 Жыл бұрын
looking at the list I wonder which would be great for a bond film title
@MrThomWolf
@MrThomWolf Жыл бұрын
I'm re-reading this one now. Apart from Disney I can't remember a thing from my original read 30 years ago.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 11 ай бұрын
I do find it odd that Gardner kept having real world targets in his novels, [maybe inspired by the Prince of Wales appearing in Tom Clancy's Patriot Games!]. Bar oddities like the infamous 'Thatcher' scene in FYEO, Bond's 'world' is usually separate from the 'real world' in the films and most of the books. Unless your Fredrick Forsyth with Day of the Jackal [with Charles De Gaul], it takes a lot of the jeopardy as 'real people' of course are going to survive [tellingly fictional targets were used for the film of Patriot games].
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
It interesting that a Charles and Diana appearance was considered for The Living Daylights. It would have been actors playing the parts, although the real Charles and Di did visit the set. Luckily Eon decided to get away from doing that (the Thatcher scene beggars belief, bringing politics in anyway, but especially with as divisive a PM). The funny thing about Jackal is you're still on the edge of your seat right up to the hero shooting the assassin, even though De Gaul was very much alive after 1963. Just good storytelling I guess, especially as we're hooked into The Jackal's hugely methodical work. And Hugo Drax's desperation to catch him. Films are a bit different to novels in that you can't really show Prince Charles, Princess Diana and their sons being blown up and shot at. And especially by Irish Nationalists. If they've gone ahead with it, they probably would have been denied filming permits in the UK. And who knows the film might even have been banned in the UK!
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
​@@davidjames579 The Thatcher scene is also baffling as it's such a 'comedy sketch' at the end of a generally 'serious' film! The 'Charles and Di' cameo would have been so out of place in Daylights [probably in a similar vein to the deleted 'magic carpet' sequence]. Agreed re-Patriot Games-the Irish element was quite controversial already [to the extent apparently John McTiernan backed out of directing as he was Irish-American] and taking the 'real world targets' out was an easy change to take [although the extensive changes in the adaption lead to Clancy distancing himself from the film]. That we know the ending but it sucks us in anyway is why 'Jackal' is such a great book. The Michael Caine Film 'Eagle has Landed' has a similar premise with Churchill.
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesatkinsonja Yes! Janet Brown played Thatcher in various things then, so it was something of a cabaret act or what you'd get on Not The Nine O'Clock News/Mike Yarwood. Like you say a real tone shift. The scene is like your typical authority figure gets huffy watching/hearing Bond shagging ending, but thank god Eon didn't continue with using real people. That said Jonathan Pryce's performance as Elliot Carver always reminded me of Michael Howard! It's interesting Harrison Ford signed onto Patriot Games as he's half-Irish American, and he wasn't contractually obliged, since Alec Baldwin played Ryan in the last one. The book and the film were both controversial, although Clancy and the film-makers were savvy enough to make the villains not the actual IRA, but a splinter group, who kill off IRA members for not agreeing with them (and The IRA try to kill them off for going further than they would). The story even has basically Sinn Fein give Ryan information after it's appalled by the homicidal attack on Ryan's family. And they add in English traitors aiding the Irish splinter group to balance things out. But yes the film was criticised for making Irish Republicans the plugin villain of the week, against All American Good Guy Ryan. It's a good thriller though with some great performances, including from Sean Bean, and score by James Horner. Yep! The Eagle Has Landed. Where of course Churchill is shot dead! Except it's an impersonator. And for anyone watching Inglourious Basterds for the first time, they must have been thinking, this plot to kill Hitler: Zero tension there!
@azurecorviknight4189
@azurecorviknight4189 4 ай бұрын
If this gets a film adaption, i want the theme park to be original Welcome to Thrililand, the greatest theme park on earth!, Thrili & the gang are pleased to meet you at one of the 5 areas... 1. CentraTown 2. History Valley 3. Attraction Trove 4. Splashaway Bay & the Crown Jewel that connects it all, Castle De Malle! (Its liturally a shopping mall)
@someenglishguy
@someenglishguy Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the plot, the title alone is incredible. I hope they use it for a future film (different plot preferably)
@SUK2293
@SUK2293 Жыл бұрын
What next? Bond in space?
@thechaosvibration1181
@thechaosvibration1181 Жыл бұрын
"Cast a blonde hair Bond and the whole world looses it's mind; Write about Bond enjoying the tower of terror, and nobody bats an eye." Hey if they cast a green women as the next 007; I can read this to lower my expectations.
@arubinojr5670
@arubinojr5670 Жыл бұрын
If you gather all the Dragonpol siblings in one place do you get a wish?
@EthanKnight97
@EthanKnight97 Жыл бұрын
Call me crazy. I find this one of my favourites of Gardner's. A masqueradimg serial killer. MI5 vs MI6 A Castle along the Rhine Roses A Museum of Theatre Madman in the Attic Bond's new Love. A Secret evil twin Brother A shootout at Disneyland Thwarting a Royal murder. One of the most memorable of Gardner's.
@garybryant5946
@garybryant5946 Жыл бұрын
Well Axel Foley went to Wallyworld in Beverly Hills Cop 3 the following year or so
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 Жыл бұрын
And met George Lucas. Bond would have congratulated him on Star Tours.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
@@davidjames579 There is also the fairground bit in Passenger 57 which came out the previous year to this book [92]!
@Farzad117
@Farzad117 Жыл бұрын
So that’s how James Bond met Snow White! 👀
@markgwaldman3273
@markgwaldman3273 Жыл бұрын
Love your Gardner reviews, so funny. You are doing a service to the entire community taking one for the team going thru these terrible novels. Bond enamored with Disney Main Street and costumed characters, brilliant! I say since Barbara and Michael either have 0 interest in Bond or 0 idea how to proceed (quick cut to Cubby holding his head in the afterlife) doing literal adaptations of the awful Gardner novels would seem to be a great idea. With either young and out of his element Tom Holland or 90 year old Michael Caine as Bond.
@woobiefuntime
@woobiefuntime 29 күн бұрын
I do think that some of them could be interesting movies
@sporkfindus4777
@sporkfindus4777 11 ай бұрын
Didn't Beverly Hills Cop 3 end in an Wallyland?
@MarvinFalz
@MarvinFalz Жыл бұрын
@4:00 I see it the same way. I think the Bond story structure doesn't really lend itself to the dramatic reveal, neither a well done one (like in Star Wars), nor a bad one. And it's a similar reason why showing Bond as a vulnerable sensitive man who's in need of surrogate parents doesn't quite gel. Bond is a superman, who in all of the darkness that comes with his profession is actually able to enjoy life. Bond's also far beyond the beginning of the hero's journey. Bond is always ready to do what he needs to do. He'll never complain and whine (like Luke Skywalker). That's how Connery, Moore and Lazenby portrayed him. The relationship between Bond and M seemed to be warm, but not like M is like Bond's surrogate father.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 11 ай бұрын
In the books Bond is certainly a lot more vulnerable and sensitive than he was portrayed in the earlier films-for example in 'You Only Live Twice' after his wife's death he goes to pieces and suffers from PTSD-which is something picked up and developed in the later films [mainly as Calvin's excellent 'Emotional storytelling' video stated as the Bond actors wanted meatier material to work with] and Fleming's Bond is often attracted to damaged woman [such as Tiffany Case]. M in the novels was very much a parental figure to him but in a very 50's 'men don't show feeling' way-M's reaction to Bond's collapse is concern for him but he'd never tell Bond that directly and he's full prepared to fire him for poor performance before being talked out of it.
@CalJennings
@CalJennings Жыл бұрын
M did look after Bond in the Flemming stories. He tried not to show it though.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
He's very much presented as a 'father' to Bond but in a 50's 'show no emotions' way. This is best shown by 'You only live twice' where he's worried about Bond but is fully prepared to fire him until talked out of it, instead find an 'easy' mission for him to recover...but of course never talking to Bond directly about his feelings as that was just not done at the time.
@CDubya.82
@CDubya.82 Жыл бұрын
The jumpcuts are so closely edited, you can hear them. Hear the beginning of the next sentence cut off and no breath between words or sentence.
@dbenny8379
@dbenny8379 Жыл бұрын
I love never send flowers, a warning seafire brings back nazis and not as gracefully as barbarosa the good thing is that cold is a good way to close the series.
@craigboycrook4542
@craigboycrook4542 Жыл бұрын
Best book reviel ever! Classic. 😂
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah Жыл бұрын
What do you suppose when they were writing _Tomorrow Never Dies,_ the screenwriters turned to _Never Send Flowers_ for Bond's temporarily call sign of White Knight?
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Probably just a coincidence given a 'White Knight' to quote wiki is 'a literacy stock character...an heroic warrior fighting against evil'.
@HandofOmega
@HandofOmega Жыл бұрын
If Disney acquires Eon Productions, then...coming soon to a theater near you! (Too bad Craig retired, would love to see him try to make THIS work)
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
I did actually try to picture Craig's Bond taking Mathilde to Disney World! Then again as Calvin said, Dalton seemed to enjoy his date with Kara in the fairground and he was a 'serious Bond'. I'm sure Roger's Bond would have a ball there.
@99037149
@99037149 Жыл бұрын
I can't remember if I have actually read this one or not....... I would have thought i would have remembered it..... Never mind the Disney stuff I wouldn't have gotten past "Dragonpoll" as a baddie.
@dannymacgyver
@dannymacgyver Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed never send flowers but seafire is my favorite
@discoveringcalculus
@discoveringcalculus Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: Agent Flowers ends up with a desk job.
@spectrechairengineer3453
@spectrechairengineer3453 Жыл бұрын
Gardner's books were really stale. Even Brokenclaw, which you liked, was a snooze for me. Baffling that he did so many
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
They do feel like the same few plot elements shuffled around [Bond teaming up with a foreign agent who becomes his love interest has been done many times at this point for example].
@c17sam90
@c17sam90 Жыл бұрын
I’m actually surprised given all the films no one has ever done one when the villain is some kinda entertainment ceo yes Carver as a media tycoon but that’s not big entertainment
@spaceodds1985
@spaceodds1985 Жыл бұрын
One hell of an M to believe in the gutter press 😂 I have to ask, are you looking forward to ending the Gardner run?
@calvindyson
@calvindyson Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to reading the GoldenEye novelisation and tbh I'm half way through Seafire and kind of enjoying it but overall I'm VERY excited about moving on to a different author in a few books time! Gardner's longevity is so crazy... To think he wrote more Bond novels than Fleming himself!
@spaceodds1985
@spaceodds1985 Жыл бұрын
@@calvindyson i know. I really cannot wait for you to return to the Fleming timeline with Devil May Care
@GundamFireStorm
@GundamFireStorm 11 ай бұрын
Wait... isn't this the plot to Beverly Hills Cop 3?
@colinwright4488
@colinwright4488 Жыл бұрын
Good to know that 007 finally got Mickey.
@justsignmeup911
@justsignmeup911 Жыл бұрын
Whenever you say Dragonpol I think of Logan Paul going super saiyan.
@wheatmann1601
@wheatmann1601 Жыл бұрын
Hey calvin
@steelbear4887
@steelbear4887 Жыл бұрын
Is this true: No twists? No aliases? 🤣
@thatsmallcessna8300
@thatsmallcessna8300 11 ай бұрын
We had a better dragon in Dr No
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir Жыл бұрын
I've watched all of Calvin's Gardner novel reviews and (despite Calvin's entertaining commentaries about them) I haven't found anything about the books enough to stir my interest in reading one. It seems to me to be a mistake to give a single author this long a run. Couldn't the publishers have varied things up a bit? Why not even set some of the novels in the era in which Fleming had written his own? Something to interrupt what just seems to be a series of time-filler stories with often OTT ideas written to comply with contractual obligations.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
It seems like the publishers were fine with getting a book a year from the author as long as the sales were solid [Gardner's successor Raymond Benson churned out 9 books in six years]. I think they also wanted to keep with the film series and be contemporary [as you got less alternative timelines or reboots back then] and a lack of imagination. Of course this complete changed when in the 2000's you had 'guest' authors often writing period novels along side spin offs Young Bond and Moneypenny diaries [Anthony Horowitz said he was delighted but surprised to be asked back and was told they liked consistency with the author to help sales rather than continue the guests which might explain why they stuck with Gardner so long back in the day]. .
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir Жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja Thank you for explaining this background.
@ty-seansenior6660
@ty-seansenior6660 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of M setting Bond up with a bride, it's kind of a questionable thing to do. I don't know if the John Gardener books are canon the the original Fleming stories, but Bond probably isn't ready for commitment after what happened to Tracy back in Majesty's. I'm a complete Bond Novice and even I can see that. Also, I can say that Bond going to a Disney park can work - if it was a parody. I can easily imagine Austin Powers and Dr. Evil chasing each other through the parks. Edit: I just realized it could kind of work in an official Bond story. Keyword being kind of. This sounds somewhat like a story for one of Roger Moore's Bond films, yet even Moonraker was less ridiculous than this!
@jammontgomery2320
@jammontgomery2320 Жыл бұрын
Although, I think Flicka was a bit better than Tracy, I can see Flicka being more compatible with Bond than Tracy.
@johnwells5414
@johnwells5414 Жыл бұрын
What can I say? The only time I’ve been to Disney Land I couldn’t help but fantasize about fighting bad guys dressed as Mickey Mouse in tea cups and thwarting assassins on roller coasters with the help of Marvel characters.
@CalJennings
@CalJennings Жыл бұрын
I was hoping that he would take out the pedophile ring at Disney.
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