Glad you're on the team, absolutely loved DAoC and WAR! Can't wait for Unchained! (I want to order the Warrior 2.0 Forever package, but I'm sorta burned from WAR CE that I ordered years ago. 😯)

First, I absolutely understand that. Second, then wait till you're more confident, no worries at all. FYI, you can always donate at the least expensive tier and then upgrade. It doesn't cost you any more to do it that way than buying the more expensive tier outright. But, if you are unsure, just wait a little longer until you can see more in-game footage or more on the ability system. As I've been saying forever, I'd rather have people not donate and be glad they didn't then have people donate and then be sad that they did. Thanks for your support of Dark Age of Camelot and WAR as well as considering to donate to Camelot Unchained, much appreciated.

Edit: New running animation was just added, looks much better. fk yes !!

Thanks Nori, much appreciated!

I was watching the stream last night, it looks so goooooooooodddddd!!

I still have not recovered from that giant worm ...

i can say as a alpha backer this is actual apha footage, and the game is coming along nicely.

Rush the game. Hitler almost took over the world back in world war too via his blitzkrieg method. ~pirate

you dont want the game rushed

Rushing a game can be healthy. It gets stuff done just ask the steve job biography. If you tell them "take your time" then they come up with dumb ideas like, "hey why dont we add 4 more classes". And then you get a scout class alongside a rogue class while both have diluted gameplay. Rush it and stay sharp and ask books. Its proven that deadlines increase critical efficiency.

Lord of the Rings online.

LoTRO doesn't have proper RvR warfare.

KYoss68 " Hoping for one game to rule them all" Didn`t get the reference eh?^^

It is not that they don't know, they just don't care. Like they don't care enough to read your post.

implying it's going to change much. lol.

The animations will, the rest probably not so much.

Actually mark says that a year from now you wont even be able to recognize this video as the same game because it will change so much

You fuckers have been saying its in alpha for like 3 years now. Make up your goddam mind, this game will always be "just in alpha".

Nothing has been really done graphics wise, its still engine tech being finished up. Then graphics and animations will come

You can check how they're advancing, they put up weekly updates on their site. I'd say it's going along pretty well so far. They recently achieved 1 000 bot on screen with decent FPS and lag, each bot being more stressful on the server and connection than a real player.

These are just place holders.

How do you know this?

Umm, because I said that was our plan. :) Yeah, these are 100% placeholders that we did more than 1 year ago. We didn't create new animations because we hadn't launched our new animation system. It didn't make sense to to create the new animations till the new system was in place. New animations will be coming. We're testing out a new running animation today. Not finished, not polished, but an improvement and it truly is just the start.

Sooner, rather than later I hope. :)

It is. It is still in Alpha. Won't be released before the end of next year. Does thsat mean they can't show its stage of development, just because you don't get how games in a real Alpha are supposed to look?

placeholder animations

Because they have spent 0 hours on doing them. Its the same plceholder since the first Demo. Why? Because they have a game to build. You don't paint a car before all its part are screwed together.

aight thanks mate I understood :3

0 hours is pretty deceptive to say, they have definitely spent quite some time on it all. I guess the animations will be done done last or at least a later than the other things, they would definitely want to finalize the character models first for sure.

yup, nice subtle touches. the mages looked great.

Pretty sure that's a "he", lol

any veilstorm* :p

2 years later with no gameplay updates. Do you still feel this way?

DAoC is still running. Just saying.

Wait for it to actually be in beta and not in the alpha engine tech phase. All games look like this in alpha

These are just place holders

Hibernia!

Crowfall uses pre-made engine - with all of it's pluses and minuses. Still, it is in pre-alpha (while CU should start beta anytime) and CF had programmers working on the game as early as mid-2013, based on Linkedin data from the official forums.

+JamesGoblin ic ty for replying

Like Goblin said Crowfall is using Unity engine ( i still wonder how it will handle large battles), CU team is building own engine from scratch to handle big battles, which is minimum of 1k players fighting in small area (i think?).

They just released a video of 200 'players' and they said they are hoping for 30fps... so i'm guessing they are going to design around that and limit players significantly in their 'zones' like a gw2 type of thing. Which honestly sounds shitty

+illuminism It's 30fps on an average computer, and there is no setting customization yet, which basically means that you're stuck at max settings. They'll also do some optimization in the future. Considering all that, 30fps with 200 players is pretty good.

These are just place holders.

yeah they'll polish it down really well dude dont worry

Soulac PVP is correct. The animations are not complete. these are all base models

The animation system is not in yet, everything you see is place holders until beta

It is because they have spent 0 hours on the animations. It is the same plceholder since the first Demo. Why? Because they have a game to build. You don't paint a car before all its part are screwed together.

Animations are not in yet, these are place holders

They've been making sure the game works before making it pretty.

You can go to their website to see their weekly updates and know where they are.

Not before late 2017, tho beta should start in a month or two.

Ok thx

I know that with WAR, MJ had to do what the higher ups at EA told him, and he had to push the launch even though the game wasn't finished. I read somewhere that the greenskins were supposed to be a third faction but couldn't because of that, but i'm not sure about this. Anyway, MJ said several times he wouldn't launch CU until it's finished, and he hasn't anyone above him to make him do it.

And i'm freakin glad about that. Was the main reason for me, backing the game while their kickstarter ran.

Still in alpha with no optimization, looks far better than GW2 or ESO did in alpha

You have no idea how those games looked in alpha.

or should I say artwork?

That's a good thing :P GW2 art style is amazing.

They changed the entire look of Guild Wars 2 compared to the Alpha, but look at Guild Wars 2 today, it's doing really well and I can't find any MMO that is on par with Guild Wars 2. I'm not a big fan of the game but the animations and overall gameplay is currently the best I've ever seen in a MMO. Edit: Supposed to be a reply to Jesse Perry but for some reason it didn't add the reply to your comment.

It's PC game.

SamuraiYagamoth 2 months until Beta. :)

Because these are placeholder animation put together quickly because they needed something to test the tech they are building.

These are just place holders

TheWehzy Can't be outdated, if others arn't developing their games faster than normal though. MMOs just take years and need to save graphic wise or else they will be uncomplete unplayable shit.

Just look at the trailer. It looks like a game from 2006. Its outdated. BDO didn't took the devs's 10 years to make and it has awesome graphics.

TheWehzy BDO spend 6 years of work before it ended in EU. Thats the normal development time. CU is at 4 years right now and most of its time was spend towards a new engine like BDO did. Gameplay development starts in beta and so does textures and animation making the functionalities look better for release late 2019/2020. All you see are placeholder textures about to be reworked again and again on a smooth running engine which already shows most of their promised features from sieging castles with destruction to holding 2700 players on your beach while you run into your death. TL&DR They didn't reached the development time from BDO yet and spend most of it on a new engine that supports most of their features, but isn't fleshed out with content, game routine or eyecandy graphics/animations. Thats what their Beta is there for.

Nothing has really been done to looks yet... it still engine tech being done. Once animations and graphics go in it will looks so much better. Oh and yah the combat is suppose to be really good and based off visual actions and countering

Isn't Star citizen a FPS and not a RPG?

What about an FPS means it cant be an RPG? What do you consider Fallout, STALKER, or any of the other games like that? RPG is a seperate element from FPS, you can have an FPS that is an RPG... You can have an FPS that is an MMO, you can have an FPS MMORPG, which is what Star Citizen is. It is a high fidelity Open world RPG, it has elements of FPS, flight sim and survival generas in it. Honestly, if they dont screw it up somehow... its going to be the best game ever made, with a bit of something for everyone. Play by yourself? Sure. Play with a 1000 man clan? Sure. FPS only? Sure. Flight Sim? Sure. Farming/Mining/Crafting? Sure. Base Building? Sure. Base Raiding? Sure. Large Scale Exploration? Sure. Economic/Trade master? Sure. Prostitute? Well... lets not go there...

DeKat Does your character improve his stats by leveling? If all your stat changes are temporary (including armor, the bonus is only there until you take it off), then i don't think it's an RPG. From wiki : "A key feature of the genre is that characters grow in power and abilities,"

No, it'll be subscription based.

Nathan AV Its more about planning than spamming buttons. This means you can put 2 attacks in a row and see them play without latency delay between.

It'll be a sub, with, if i remember right, some extensions that'll come after launch pay to play (those that aren't absolutely needed to keep playing the game, meaning you can decide to not buy them and still do fine, for example if new classes are added it would be easy to make it into such an extension, you wouldn't be able to play the new classes but would still be able to fight with and against them). I'm not sure about this, it's been a while. What i'm sure about is that there will be a sub and NO cash shop.

What's impressive is the draw distance and amount of stuff on screen.

Most of the dev time so far has apparently been spent on custom-building their engine and a lot of the assets and animations are placeholders. This game is going for some VERY ambitious systems, particularly with its physics. That's the absolutely critical core that needs to be nailed down first.

This is an old school alpha you're seeing. They haven't polished the graphics, it'll look a lot better at launch.

cLix221 do you even watch the weekly wrap ups and join the playtests, m8?

These are just place holders. Rofl, lol

Quit looking into the mirror than.

Guys calm down don't be salty. Just saying the truth.

Awful might be too strong word, but it isn't too handsome...yet!?

No, It does look awful. It looks like Dungeon Lords very late released multiplayer.

I don't think anyone would honestly disagree (I think the world looks alright for the most part, though). Everyone's hope is that it will get better closer to release.