What Messenger (adept) should you go for?
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2 ай бұрынyes. all of them.
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@bobflip7831 2 ай бұрын
"I'm ads-ing for free damage" is a crazy call out.
@Shadow-ue6fq 2 ай бұрын
I still love the "original" Messenger godroll of Rapid Hit Desperado
@althechicken9597 2 ай бұрын
How about the real OG with Third Eye and Headseeker. It had optional sights, too :(
@ThatGuy-rz6tv 2 ай бұрын
Ngl, that’s still the best roll. Kill clip is super overrated and headseeker is just better on Phylotactic Spiral.
@ToxiiicGaming 2 ай бұрын
Got an adept this past weekend with rapid hit headseeker/desperado and deleted all my other rolls lol
@LupeWilde21 2 ай бұрын
Solo was atrocious this weekend
@derek3154 2 ай бұрын
Always is😅
@tomu8047 2 ай бұрын
I normally can’t string three wins together, went flawless last night easiest card I’ve ever had very strange
@tempestthegoat 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it was especially bad. I got a 1788 teammate
@TheLogan771 2 ай бұрын
really? I went flawless for the first time ever in D2, no losses on my mercy card
@taro9921 2 ай бұрын
honestly i’ve gotta disagree, i’ve been having very fun matches using symmetry/RevZero. very good to stack headshots over long fights with
@mcflu 2 ай бұрын
I still love my older roll with killing wind and headseeker, just feels great
@notanexpert1780 2 ай бұрын
I already got my god roll Messenger with my one and only Flawless. Even still, I'm glad I watched this. You put a LOT of effort in making sure everything is considered, and it shows.
@drakan5468 2 ай бұрын
I'm just here for the way he thinks (out-of-the--box).
@MrPinkpanzer 2 ай бұрын
Love seeing sidezzman playing with the homies.
@benf2532 2 ай бұрын
I admire your confidence in pressure situations.
@Hofey 2 ай бұрын
Kill clip lowering the headshot to body shot ratio makes the 2 burst so easy to steamroll with.
@GeoMag27 2 ай бұрын
Ive had this roll in my postmaster for like a month or two when the messenger was an adept weekend. Glad I kept it
@ricardooliva8916 2 ай бұрын
Just got my perfect roll with headseeker + moving target 🎯
@zupahdupah 2 ай бұрын
You can craft the Phyllotactic Spiral with under-over and headseeker but enchanced. Lets you use Conditional too
@zacinnc78 2 ай бұрын
secrets THEY dont want you to know "youtubers "hate him...actually a good idea tho,thanks !
@life-destiny1196 2 ай бұрын
Cammy did a review of a bunch of pulse rifles a while back and didn't feel like he could get Phyllotactic Spiral to work for one reason or another. IIRC he's looking for Zen Moment Horror's Least to try in that slot. That said, I'm a fan! Use the micro missile like you would NTTE time buddy--you can build it up slowly with hits then use the extra damage to clean up a kill that otherwise you'd have missed the optimal TTK on.
@fotis3v480 2 ай бұрын
Comparing Phylo to Messenger is lie comparing better devil's to Ace of spades...at least put weapons somewhere close in the same realm 😂.
@flamewasp7670 2 ай бұрын
@@fotis3v480phyllo is barely worse in each stat with the exact same roll of under over head seeker. phyllo is only really super outpaced by messenger when alacrity is procced. Also like the other guy said you get access to conditional
@ximmyneutron 2 ай бұрын
thank you for letting us know that cammy deemed phylo simply not good enough. where would we be without him. @@life-destiny1196
@witherup2537 2 ай бұрын
Got chambered, AP, underover headseeker, range masterwork . For team shooting AP is so good since your shots will go through even if your teammates strafe into your lane. Really wanna see a vid where a strand lock makes themselves a riot shield
@The_Sap_Lord 2 ай бұрын
*clears throat* Desperado.
@vance4172 2 ай бұрын
Dang this was definitely my favorite gun in D1 besides Fatebringer. In PvP this thing SMACKED, and I had it adept with arc. I was in love 😭 the good old days
@zacharyjensen1525 2 ай бұрын
Hey Cammy, I know that sidearms are doing really well right now but I think you should look into slug shotties. I find that they work pretty well at making those with conditional and matador rage. Been my counter to the increase in shotgun usage I see in comp on specific maps. Just a thought 😉
@harrowedchaos 2 ай бұрын
That new subscribe font and color was a jumpscare
@KinesisOnXbox 2 ай бұрын
Literally any messenger that doesn't require playing this weekend.
@zTheBigFishz 2 ай бұрын
I have an old HS/ZM role...love it.
@Narfwak 2 ай бұрын
in my experience the recoil direction almost didn't matter as long as the stability was high. MT + keep away makes the aim assist kinda crazy since accuracy and aim assist bonuses synergize with each other. high stab 60 kicking to the right feels easier to control with right handed mouse compensation (pushing down and to the left) than 90 kicking up to the left (pulling down to the right) but that's just me
@wezzy9437 2 ай бұрын
I wish they never made multiplex it feels worse than disjunction, it's so weird.
@zacinnc78 2 ай бұрын
nahh hard disagree,,,at least the map dont have shit laying all over the map
@idontknow4687 2 ай бұрын
Would headseeker be worth it if i mostly hit headshots
@DarkPyroZero 2 ай бұрын
This was probably the best solo experience I ever had, using Symmetry and Mykel's Reverence Sidearm, and I never play Trials so that's actually pretty insane for me to say
@Carlos-xj8lf 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the mm is ur friend and my enemy.. Every game blueberry does nothin just standing in spawn.. the other one runs straight to the capture zone and dies by teamshot.. if i dont do 18 to 20 kill and 2.0 kd i Lose.. since 5th march trials is horror for me.. People who are worse than me go flawless thanks to mm and i cant because of mm... never complaint about mm but now its for people who are good but not pro-good not fun anymore.. my Clan is dead when it comes to trials.. march 5th was the final nail in the coffin!
@garretthughes2549 2 ай бұрын
This was a rough trials weekend lol. Finally got my adept messenger that I wanted tho
@WaveringAna 2 ай бұрын
I never thought to see the day of Sidezz playing titan
@JGburneraccount 2 ай бұрын
Wild card won me a game last night. Homie was 1 hp and so was i 4-4 and he went to rez his teammate and just died out of nowhere i was so confused
@treyrandall2983 2 ай бұрын
I wanted to know the new deterministic recoil ins & outs... I.e. if gun has a deterministic recoil of 2 center 1 off left and 3rd burst is off the right or w/e. Noticed 1 thing tho, I don't hear ppl talking about. If gun does have a "Left recoil direction" & the recoil on gun is actually saying it goes right, if you then adjust it to go further right the gun straightens out vertical. Like my u.i. in game is lieing to me... Not like, it is... Any other facts, obscure yet useful, facts that we may not know?
@Ragumeatsauce 2 ай бұрын
I went flawless for the first time after 10 years. In return I got a booty rolled Messenger, so worth it. 😊
@mazaseggso 2 ай бұрын
I reached the lighthouse for the first time, my loadout was symmetry with geomag 💀 but still I was able to reach it and got a 4/5 roll on the messenger with only a really ass barrel Also if I need to deal with overshield titans I personally use my scatter signal with under over for a clean one burst
@jcnikoley 2 ай бұрын
Under/over has been slept on which is odd considering how prevalent overshields are.
@ForeverLaxx 2 ай бұрын
From what I've seen, most players prefer perks that help them slay out in 6s, meaning a target-rich environment with lots of "allies" they can nab kills from when they're done using said allies as human shields. Under Over doesn't help them do anything 4 people shooting at one guy can't do better.
@despieros 2 ай бұрын
Zen moment + celerety is the best one 😁
@KazeSword 2 ай бұрын
Lol was Drew running hung jury or something else with box breathing?
@GhOwOstie-I 2 ай бұрын
Cammy + Morning coffee is a vibe
@ukemi- 2 ай бұрын
Phyllotactic spiral (from neomuna) can also roll with under-over and headseeker. I’m not sure if the enhanced version of under-over allows you to 2-tap an overshield titan. It can roll with some other good perks in the third column (keep away, perfect float)
@pogchampion7723 2 ай бұрын
Already have Zen Moment + Headseeker Adept 💪
@Dredguno 2 ай бұрын
I'm out here farming for a normal summoner this weekend. RNG is just screwing me
@Golet234-2 2 ай бұрын
Messenger? that's a funny way to spell igneous hammer
@ransomdean9141 2 ай бұрын
The Microsoft power point subscribes are too good.
@jonhtree4942 2 ай бұрын
Gentlemen should i keep my under over plus kinetic tremors roll
@quantypeshitq.t.s3550 2 ай бұрын
Cammy can we get some strand chaperone gameplay or strand duality
@surf4767 2 ай бұрын
He got animations now holy
@GhosttoCoast782 2 ай бұрын
Anything can shread a warlock out of his rift lol tbh
@linnaduncan9532 2 ай бұрын
How good does your roll need to be to beat No Time To Explain?
@cfalcon07 2 ай бұрын
what about frenzy? I like the handling lol adept with arrow rico moving target range mw
@lumi5880 2 ай бұрын
rapid hit is all you need
@glowiboi Ай бұрын
why headseeker, if you miss ur 2burst just swap weapons or cleanup with ability
@chrisotoole82 2 ай бұрын
First weekend the messenger returned during season of the deep I went flawless and only 3 games later I got a 5/5 small bore ricochet rapid hit headseeker stability MW roll and was blessed to never play trials on a messenger weekeend ever again 😂
@kenzilbaptiste2519 2 ай бұрын
4/5
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX 2 ай бұрын
@@kenzilbaptiste2519there’s always that one guy… lol
@BlazekonHD 2 ай бұрын
@@kenzilbaptiste2519 According to whom?
@chrisotoole82 2 ай бұрын
@kenzilbaptiste2519 5/5 to me I got 0 recoil with 91 stability
@GrungusTV 2 ай бұрын
Cammy what are your thoughts on Aeon Safe/Swift in pvp with Sect of vigor, viable or am I just getting bored.
@jroland94 2 ай бұрын
this on gunslinger with acrobat dodge + jorums claw with golden tricorn is god tier in 6v6
@GrungusTV 2 ай бұрын
@@jroland94 I've been using it with thruster and x3 dynamo for quick supers
@honeybadger1810 2 ай бұрын
I haven’t really bothered with it because prophecy is next week so we can all get the relentless. Don’t know which is worse. Trials hell or prophecy hell. I’ll get 2 or 3 rolls of this. When I get discord and harmony on all three of them, I’ll quit.
@jayjayswag0855 2 ай бұрын
What about an OG roll wit zen moment headseeker
@SamuraiLJacks0n 2 ай бұрын
What is the Radar mod that negates the invisible radar penalty?
@derek3154 2 ай бұрын
I got an Outlaw with either KT or Harmony 😢 FML…maybe next time
@justinwang7160 2 ай бұрын
why does cammy pull out his rocket whenever he's moving around?
@oliverbenee9691 2 ай бұрын
he usually runs rockets with threat detector. If people come within 15 meters, the perk activates immediately and shows how many players are nearby. It's nice since you don't have to rely on the slower radar. The radar is also unreliable for showing if people are on top of each other/how many, but threat detector stacks up to x3.
@iLLWiLLx21 2 ай бұрын
Radar booster mod
@gonnsolo8506 2 ай бұрын
What's that end subscribe screen
@biohazard724 2 ай бұрын
I know yall weren't serious but damn Drew was clogging comms
@Winter_Contingency 2 ай бұрын
how does messenger stack up against relentless?
@Iliketobeeducated 2 ай бұрын
2nd also under over over radiant?
@Ferm-lh6np 2 ай бұрын
Is an older one with zen moment headseeker better than the new one even though it doesn’t have an origin trait?
@DrakeIsLoco 2 ай бұрын
Zen is crispy
@xyry4148 2 ай бұрын
All true, unless u still have an old adept with zen moment and then all the rest goes down the drain!😂
@wintershowl8147 2 ай бұрын
Oh fuck we played together lol, ggs dude
@rebornk9195 2 ай бұрын
Rapid hit head seeker
@gommyboi380 2 ай бұрын
The real answer is go cold denial cause it has wayyy lower zoom so its like firing a hand cannon with a 0.67 ttk
@ricardooliva8916 2 ай бұрын
Too bad the range sucks on that gun, and in this map its pretty much unusable
@seaturtleninjagaming4602 2 ай бұрын
Cold Denial has been my fav pulse since it came out. Wish they'd rerelease it with Omolon origin trait, I love the sound design. Plus curated roll had Zen and Headseeker before it was double S tier, just S tier
@Ozz465 2 ай бұрын
LOve the In depth . way to dumb to figure it myself .
@yyyhhh8481 2 ай бұрын
armor-piercing rounds do anything?
@kalicula7718 2 ай бұрын
It over penetrates. So if you shoot someone, the bullet will go through them, and if anyone is behind them, it will hit them too. Good against strand clones.
@offdutycharterstx3898 2 ай бұрын
good morning Cammy
@jedsanford7879 2 ай бұрын
Just run Jade Rabbit. It shits on messenger. Need to run it with a handling exotic tho, that handling is ASS
@life-destiny1196 2 ай бұрын
y'know I was about to make fun of you, but going by trialsreport apparently it's pretty popular this weekend, much like how people bust it out for Eternity. shows what I know lmao (I haven't hopped in yet this weekend so figured I'd check before I ran my mouth). I never really gave it or MIDA or Suros Regime a fair chance because grinding out a bajillion kills for the catalysts on powercrept guns struck me as a waste (at least Vig Wing is a unique pulse frame, so I have that halfway done), but maybe I should be a little more of a completionist hah.
@ximmyneutron 2 ай бұрын
scouts are dogshit unless you're playing against giga burgers or unaware ximbrainers. this map has so many different angles as soon as someone gets close to a scout user they just get shit on cause of how awkward they are.
@dankvader420 2 ай бұрын
*MFW cammy hasn't yet closed a video with "skubskreb"*
@pititful 2 ай бұрын
Why is it that underover won't two burst a titan but a warlock gets obliterated?
@dankvader420 2 ай бұрын
@@pititful I think the rift doesn't give a +40 overshield but a smaller one.
@pititful 2 ай бұрын
@@dankvader420 shh let me mald and cope as a warlock main
@dankvader420 2 ай бұрын
@@pititful *chadlock
@benjaminmills5687 2 ай бұрын
Discord harmony is a sleeper hit
@Jayse 2 ай бұрын
For double primary yeah
@hugeness2329 2 ай бұрын
Why do you run around with the rocket launcher out?
@ximmyneutron 2 ай бұрын
he probably has threat detector on it but realistically its a meme because its not going to give any information running out of spawn with it in the first 5 seconds.
@joshuasmith6909 2 ай бұрын
Trick question: you don’t get any. Exponential math is a binch. Let’s be bold and say the average player has a 50% win rate (it’s actually 35% but let’s be nice). Flawless is a 0.78% chance by default. Mercy is a lovely 1.366%. Persistence is purgatory and you deny yourself 7-win rewards all weekend to do it; 25% chance of winning 2 matches to get permanent progress stings in practice. Ferocity is a 12.5% chance to enter the loss protection state with 3 consecutive wins, then a 6.25% for any set of 4 games to get you flawless. It’s all exhausting, and this is after I rigged the odds to 50/50. Can we please spread this math around and demand death to the win streak system?
@homelesssamurai629 2 ай бұрын
Deep breaths brother, in and out
@theveryamericaneagle3657 2 ай бұрын
Get that rapid hit an encore. That roll makes it feel like an exoctic when dueling :)
@MikeYt673 2 ай бұрын
Encore is the worst perk you can get on it
@theveryamericaneagle3657 2 ай бұрын
@MikeYt673 bro what? Your crazy go back an read what encore does.
@Model1887isBEAST 2 ай бұрын
Just use jorums claw with a radiant build
@Whyamihere88 2 ай бұрын
Under over headseeker/rapid hit headseeker. Like rate subscribe k thanks
@0RandyHooper0 2 ай бұрын
Adept? No thank you. Matchmaking and i both suck, im fine with my messenger from 6 or so seasons ago. Very nice video though
@marceloqflgamer8751 2 ай бұрын
Nerver Go to lighthoise never i play 2015
@pn2072 2 ай бұрын
is hammer forged, richocet, moving target, head seeker, range master work (adeot) good
@thomasdavis3933 2 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that hates this weeks map?
@lukefarrell3 2 ай бұрын
No you're not I've never liked it since it released
@wkcreasman 2 ай бұрын
Huge
@myonlyfriendtheend4958 2 ай бұрын
on what su said at 7:58 that angle FRIED me on that spawn this map is so fucking terrible with legit super forts spawn wise and just scout rifling across the map there is no good angles once you get set up at certain spots
@Little_Rhino47 2 ай бұрын
I find his voice soothing
@huegofarley4684 2 ай бұрын
before watchin video is this about under-over? 10 sec in its about under-over
@daledrakewriter4912 2 ай бұрын
Needs a nerf with this current meta weapons like this are wildly unbalanced. Same with the summoner.
@emilianocastillejos1330 2 ай бұрын
Worst take ever 💀
@cameronhunt6327 2 ай бұрын
@@emilianocastillejos1330no, valid take
@ximmyneutron 2 ай бұрын
hand cannons are still stronger. if you peek shoot against these guns you massively drop their TTK as long as you're hitting your shots. and lets be real, if you're using igneous, its firing cinderblocks regardless.
@vari2d347 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this. I'm so tired of dying at immortal target lock speeds at 39 metres. I don't see much complaints about high impact pulses, but they seriously need some kind of nerf.
@JGburneraccount 2 ай бұрын
I get flawless first try almost every weekend in solo for over a year this week was horrible. I still would average a game with adleast 2.0kd but after i passed 3 wins oh god it got so sweaty. I blame the new trials card it should be removed it makes new players stay in the game at 3 wins instead of 1 and just kill most hope for people to who are good to get flawless. I got 3-4 wins doing very well than lost 3 games in a row....5 fkn times before flawless. That is ridiculous and dosent happen not once did i lose a game after 1 or 2 wins it was always 3 or 4. *Please remove this new stupid ass 3 win saftey flawless card*
@life-destiny1196 2 ай бұрын
that's not how anything works
@Infinite-Void 2 ай бұрын
The new passage is not an issue. Everything you said holds no merit.
@JGburneraccount 2 ай бұрын
@@Infinite-Void okay weirdo.
@Infinite-Void 2 ай бұрын
@@JGburneraccount youre talking out of your asshole.
@Infinite-Void 2 ай бұрын
@@JGburneraccount that’s why you got 0 likes it’s a shit take from a shit player
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