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Can a Keto Diet Cause Hypomania, and How Can It Be Avoided?

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Metabolic Mind

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@niki5128
@niki5128 5 ай бұрын
I experienced a Hypomanic Phase after i started the ketogenic diet for 2 weeks. It lasted for about 2-3 days. My anxiety and depression completely was gone and i was full of Drive and Euphoria. I couldn't believe it first and was skeptical. After a few days it normalised. It was mindblowing because i haven't felt like this for years. It gave me a light at the end of the tunnel. My Mind showed me that it is possible to feel completely different with a diet change even if it was just a short overreaction.
@rossbrown590
@rossbrown590 5 ай бұрын
I had the same experience, although mine lasted a bit longer. I was so euphoric and hyper, I became a little erratic admittedly. So I had to adjust the diet as being in that state would've been unsustainable for me. But what you said about light at the end of the tunnel. I just think of all the depressed or suicidal people out there who don't know they are capable of such happiness, even if that intensity is short lived. I felt how I was as a child, outward facing and happy.
@niki5128
@niki5128 5 ай бұрын
@@rossbrown590 That sounds exactly the same like my Experience. I also felt like myself as a child. Full of Energy, Happiness and absolutly no Depression or Anxiety. Have you found a way or the right Dose? I had the Impression that i could not achieve the Phase again.
@sadtosuccess
@sadtosuccess 5 ай бұрын
I have bipolar 2 and I also experience hypomania in the transition to keto. The first time I intentionally went keto I transitioned slowly and didn't have any issues. I fell off the diet for a couple of months and ended up depressed. I decided to retry the diet, that time I went to my doctor to get my PRN, but before I took that I tried keto. On that occasion I did flip from depression to hypomania, it was a happy hypomania not a negative hypomania (which antidepressants do to me) but it only lasted for about 3 days. Once I was back in ketosis the symptoms subsided. I didn't need to take the medication. I think people do need to work with their doctor, however, their doctor doesn't have to be a low carb doctor, just a doctor willing to work with them to manage medication and symptoms. The latter is much easier to find than a metabolic psychiatrist.
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
Well said! Thank you for sharing
@shanerichard6000
@shanerichard6000 5 ай бұрын
Thankful Dr. Ede has taken the steps to train other clinicians....critically important....
@pisquiatria.metabolica
@pisquiatria.metabolica 5 ай бұрын
Great content. As a psychiatrist working with the ketogenic diet for tha past 4 years, I haven seen this happen in a very small number of cases, and in all of them it was not hard to manage at all. I agreee with Dr. Ede 100% that this should not stop anyone from experimenting with the diet.
@cherylcore7053
@cherylcore7053 5 ай бұрын
Thank-you! As a mom, just trying to help my precious son, this is SO encouraging to hear!!
@craiglatta6378
@craiglatta6378 5 ай бұрын
My son went manic early on after drinking Gatorade 🙄but for the first time ever we were able to avoid going into full blown mania
@cherylcore7053
@cherylcore7053 5 ай бұрын
Thank-you for this! My son has started a keto diet to hopefully help with his bipolar 1 condition. We are in Canada, our dr will not help in this area, so we are cautiously and carefully helping him. He is still taking his medication, which is lithium, and he does have a strong sleep aid medication if need be. He is a week and a half into it, so far other than the keto flu symptoms, he seems to be on track!! I am reading Dr. Ede’s new book, and also have it on audible! I’am hopeful for the first time in many years! THANK YOU to all of you!!🙏
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Dr. Ede also has a rapidly growing directory on her website where people can search for trained clinicians to help with ketogenic therapy. We hope that helps! www.diagnosisdiet.com/directory
@jan_ellison_baszucki
@jan_ellison_baszucki 5 ай бұрын
Keep us posted on how it goes!
@kenadams5504
@kenadams5504 5 ай бұрын
Going low carb before full keto , is the smoothest way .
@emilwilczewski
@emilwilczewski 5 ай бұрын
My diagnosis is bipolar type 2, but since I started the ketogenic way of eating 6 years ago, I haven't had any hypomanic episodes. Although I used to have them before that.
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
Thats great to hear. Thank you for sharing!
@lancedethian8043
@lancedethian8043 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video addressing the topic of socializing on the keto diet. So much of the human experience is predicated on "breaking bread" with others and there's got to be a psychological impact on having to navigate not eating the foods that everyone else is consuming at a wedding, dinner party etc.. i particularly have wrestled with this and wondered if the therapeutic effects would still be felt if one were to break out of ketosis one evening a week, fast the next day and get back into ketosis for the remainder of the week. This is the case for me as i have a bible study group once a week where a different person each week opts to cook dinner for the group. I don't want to forfeit the social , and often times mental, benefits of fellowshipping with friends and church goers but on the other end of that coin in breaking out of ketosis
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
While we don't have a video on that, there are some good guides out there that may help. Here's one from Diet Doctor, www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/dining-out. We hope that helps!
@debracalvin6737
@debracalvin6737 6 күн бұрын
This happened and I remembered she said to have an apple. I did and within 15 minutes I felt calm and fell asleep. Going a little slower now.
@rahayuniw9968
@rahayuniw9968 3 ай бұрын
I really love this channel. It gives me a lot of insight that I've been searching for. I've been on bipolar 2 since 2013. I used to be on a keto diet, but when I felt better, I moved to another town. I wasn't on a keto diet anymore, but still on medications. Moving to a new place really makes me realize that depression and anxiety happen almost often. Now, I've been on keto diet again for almost a month, I still have mood fluctuations, but I think I'm getting better.
@mindysueeppley8480
@mindysueeppley8480 5 ай бұрын
I was just wondering out loud with my husband today if I was actually hypomanic..... then this was posted! oh jeez
@heathersmith6177
@heathersmith6177 5 ай бұрын
Great interview!
@pjayadeep
@pjayadeep 5 ай бұрын
I also had a hypomanic episode when I went on a high fat diet, more like paleo than ketogenic. So I had to abandon that effort and now trying to slowly move up the fat content in my diet. One mistake I probably did was to go off lithium cold turkey, now I'm reducing the dosage slowly.. and being very very cautious
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for shraing. Unfortunately, we have heard many examples of people running into trouble by tapering or stopping medications too quickly. Here's a video we did discussing this topic in more detail. We hope it helps! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrupkpSHvJ2dZ58.html
@jan_ellison_baszucki
@jan_ellison_baszucki 5 ай бұрын
Our son got off lithium last year after 2 years in daily ketosis. He went very, very slowly and did not have trouble. We always used a rule of thumb of tapering no more than 10% of the current dose every two weeks.
@jackschitt6235
@jackschitt6235 5 ай бұрын
I think I experienced hypomania many years ago while taking the antidepressant Zoloft. I got fired because of behavior caused by it. At the time I just didn't have enough knowledge about this stuff. The doctor who put me on it committed suicide many years ago. Married with young kids and catholic school...I still think about him/it from time to time.
@jan_ellison_baszucki
@jan_ellison_baszucki 5 ай бұрын
That is unfortunately not an uncommon story. The book and upcoming film, Brainstorm, address this phenomenon.
@spicychickpea3477
@spicychickpea3477 Күн бұрын
9:59 having an apple when going thru transitional difficulty
@karenohanlon4183
@karenohanlon4183 5 ай бұрын
Is the hypomania in any way linked to being on meds and the two things keto and mood change drugs working against each other.
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
That's a good question, especially since ketosis is known to alter the levels of some psychotropic medications. But since hypomania usually occurs in the initial stages of ketosis and can be mitigated with a slow transition into ketosis, that suggests (doesn't prove, but suggests) an alternative mechanism.
@kiwikim5163
@kiwikim5163 5 ай бұрын
I can get this if I add too much fasting into the mix.
@lifebytadlock
@lifebytadlock 3 ай бұрын
vegan keto made me extremely hypomanic when I tested it (no question it was hypo mania but you could call it mild and able to function). maybe I didn't to it correctly and had some inflaming foods or was not high enough in ketones. I tested it several times for 3-6 weeks,. Whole food plant based no gluten or fruit high carb well cooked starches leaning macrobiotic keeps my bipolar out of my life...we used to say about macrobiotics you get "macro mellow"....(I am vegan 35 years and oil free vegan like the founder of whole foods market and others are..mayor of NYC for example. I have been off meds for 25 years now...Not saying it's perfect but there are other ways to heal bipolar with food.
@lexamdelac28
@lexamdelac28 5 ай бұрын
If you are in ketosis and having hypomania/mania on keto, can it be more mild? Like, do the ketones help you get through it? I'm almost three months into keto with therapeutic ketones, and since the last 2/3 weeks I am newly having insomnia and I don't want mania/hypomania/psychosis. I am working with my prescriber, but it's almost like my usual antipsychotic has stopped helping me sleep (just lowered from 5mg to 4.9mg), even when taking the extra doses prescribed - melatonin seems to help more than the extra doses that do not make me sleepy. Super scary. And I wonder if instead of potentiation, my medication is being made less effective by keto or if trouble sleeping is a new side effect?
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Any of those that you list are possible. As Nicole references in the video, some people sleep less while in ketosis. Some see an attenuation of medication effect. And some experience mild hypomania. That's why it so important for people to work closely with their clinical team to monitor things and help determine which response it may be.
@lexamdelac28
@lexamdelac28 5 ай бұрын
thank you for your response! I'm trying to explain it to my psychiatrist better because she is pretty unsure about keto still though I sent her info@@metabolicmind
@lexamdelac28
@lexamdelac28 5 ай бұрын
also, just wondering, if experiencing a reduction in the effectiveness of medication due to ketosis, could that lead to withdrawal symptoms? or no? IIs it all trial and error to figure out what's occuring?@@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind
@metabolicmind 5 ай бұрын
Many experts in this area feel it may cause "withdrawl" symptoms in some cases, but certainly not in everyone (or even most). Dr. Georgia Ede has lots of information about this on her channel.
@lexamdelac28
@lexamdelac28 5 ай бұрын
Thank you :) I will check that out@@metabolicmind
@csmrfx
@csmrfx 5 ай бұрын
Off the bat seems like a ridiculous proposition! 😅
@user-hg2ig3go5m
@user-hg2ig3go5m 5 ай бұрын
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