Can a Player be a Mount in D&D?

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Writing a description for this one without any potential euphemisms is really hard. Here's a sneak peak of episode 83 - check here for the full episode! • The Mount & Blade (Pt ...
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@insertname5371
@insertname5371 2 жыл бұрын
“Must have the appropriate anatomy” ok this has the potential to get inappropriate fast
@DazraelArianos
@DazraelArianos 2 жыл бұрын
Mount me baby. LoL
@insertname5371
@insertname5371 2 жыл бұрын
@@DazraelArianos I'm a hundred percent gonna try get a partner to play this as an old married couple with the old man shooting innuendos like this.
@agilemind6241
@agilemind6241 2 жыл бұрын
@@insertname5371 lol, would that be a lore-bard gnome riding the back of a sassy Tiefling warlock?
@NRMRKL
@NRMRKL 2 жыл бұрын
"How would you feel about riding me all day long?"
@DazraelArianos
@DazraelArianos 2 жыл бұрын
@@insertname5371 Honestly I'd prefer the reverse. Have a shy male circle of the moon druid who transforms into mounts for a female.... rogue would be a good fit. And have her saying things like, "He's hung like a horse;" and, "In combat I mount him. In out tent he mounts me."😘
@DvirPick
@DvirPick 2 жыл бұрын
"There is nothing expressly written in the rules that says that a *player* cannot serve as a mount for another *player* ". Might be awkward when you're trying to play at the table and one player is mounting the other. But the rulebooks don't really set limits to what players can do (that is what the law is for). The rules are there to set limits on what player characters can do.
@TreantmonksTemple
@TreantmonksTemple 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, centaur or moon druid? Guess we'll see.
@vinspad3
@vinspad3 2 жыл бұрын
Porque no los dos?
@patluna3251
@patluna3251 2 жыл бұрын
Moon druid with barbarian levels. And a fighter. Go !!!!
@patluna3251
@patluna3251 2 жыл бұрын
A question if a player is mounting a echo knight Centaur and he is switching with the echo. The mounted player is teleporting with the player or is he now mounting a echo?
@lucasramey6427
@lucasramey6427 2 жыл бұрын
@@patluna3251 unfortunately I think they'd just fall through the echo since it's treated as how an Illusion would
@patluna3251
@patluna3251 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasramey6427 but echo is a object
@WOLF7356
@WOLF7356 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO I really hope that the "rider" is the tank because of Mounted Comat feat can allow the rider to force all attacks targeted at the mount to target them instead. Truely an op tanking ability.
@Nikotheos
@Nikotheos 2 жыл бұрын
I dare you to title the video "Pony Boy and Cat Woman", and recommend Tabaxi as the race for the mounted character. 🤣
@normal6483
@normal6483 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling my "Mounted Combatant tank" comment on an earlier video helped inspire this build, and I'm more than happy with that! It's an exciting way to tank, and rarely taken advantage of! (Try combining it with the Sanctuary spell for even stronger defense.)
@elitesmiley
@elitesmiley 2 жыл бұрын
THE COW AND THE BOY
@ryanmcmenamim9871
@ryanmcmenamim9871 2 жыл бұрын
I love that we are citing Airbud in the build.
@RJM1410
@RJM1410 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite thing about this ruling is the benefits of mounted combatant applies when you are mounted. Now, thanks to the issues of the english language, this technically could apply when you are mounted(on a mount) or mounted(being a mount)
@airone8893
@airone8893 2 жыл бұрын
I am so excited for this build!! I don’t know why but I do love tank builds, especially when it teams up with someone else
@ajaafive1384
@ajaafive1384 2 жыл бұрын
I have my wildfire spirit mount my character by hiding in his robes. No one expects a flying obsidian snake up one's sleeve.
@martinwigham
@martinwigham 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally just watching one of your videos the other day where you said you would never do this - good thing you snuck in a "don't hold me to that" :D
@devin5201
@devin5201 2 жыл бұрын
"Ride me Ragnar, ride me like you mean it!"
@alangalantin8614
@alangalantin8614 2 жыл бұрын
Centaur with find familiar is coming!!! And he is upset! Master and Blaster, maybe?
@jakeholmes9296
@jakeholmes9296 2 жыл бұрын
I always see people saying a barbarian mount with a wizard riding them, but the other way round is so much better, the wizard is a mount and a halfling barbarian or something is riding them and has the mounted combatant feat which allows the barbarian to put all the damage targeting the wizard on them self.
@irakhlin
@irakhlin 2 жыл бұрын
Gnome Paladin and Centaur rogue tag team incomming. Time for Master Blaster.
@ellathompson3090
@ellathompson3090 2 жыл бұрын
i have two guys in my party who play as a single guy in a trenchcoat and they use each other as mounts during combat
@DnDDeepDive
@DnDDeepDive 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! That's amazing :).
@Onethirdless
@Onethirdless 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for what the name of this duo will be after the poll. Also, inb4 PG-13 puns 😂.
@xavdervish4460
@xavdervish4460 2 жыл бұрын
I am only imagining the Artillerist Centaur build where he has the cannons on his back
@NRMRKL
@NRMRKL 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... well, the obvious pick would be either the Centaur race or the Moon Druid class (or both which could allow for the saddle to remain in place when wild shaping). Other options include: Custom Lineage (says you can pick your look, doesn't force you to be bipedal), Van Richten's lineages (Centaur Dhampir, Centaur Reborn, Centaur Hexblood - technically you wouldn't get to keep the benefits of the Equine Build feature, but you'd still stay at a medium size and with the bottom part of a horse). Odd possibility: Armorer Artificer with an armor designed for a person with a mountable protrusion in the back and two extra legs? The Arcane Armor feature reads: "The armor replaces any missing limbs, functioning identically to a limb it replaces.", although I assume it means a limb missing from the body and not a limb missing from inside the armor, otherwise you could also have more than two functional arms. Still, if you want to and your DM would allow you that for the sake of being mountable... go for it. Assuming it's not a Druid - I'm guessing either Paladin for the auras' benefits to always include the rider, Ancestral Guardian/Totem Warrior Barbarian for the advantage/disadvantage shenanigans, Armorer Artificer for the same reason as the Barbarian, Battlemaster Fighter (see before), and last and probably least likely but it does have a d10 hit die so... Beast Master Ranger? I don't think Ranger is really likely (and the Beast Master subclass even less so) but if you wanted two mounts instead of one for some reason with the option of aquatic ones, there you have it. I'm guessing the rider would be a Rogue because of Sneak Attack, but I'm not sure how being in a saddle affects Evasion and Dex saves. Cavalier would obviously work with any "attack only me" type of mount because they can then impose definite disadvantage on a single target + get the benefits of the Born to the Saddle feature. A Paladin on a different Paladin would allow both rider and mount to constantly benefit from both auras. Exciting stuff, can't wait!
@DYMTWrecks
@DYMTWrecks 2 жыл бұрын
The fucking thumbnail lmfaooooooo
@DnDDeepDive
@DnDDeepDive 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@Lastofthesigilites
@Lastofthesigilites 2 жыл бұрын
Centaur Barbarian carrying a paladin.
@chenn1129
@chenn1129 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is college of whispers Kobold riding atop a path of the beast Leonin. I can feel the intimidation already. :)
@jagondal8378
@jagondal8378 2 жыл бұрын
Based on the properties of Mounted Combatant, I'm going to guess the rider is the tank, since MC can redirect all direct attacks and gives the mount Evasion. Possibly with Interception and/or Protection fighting style(s), though that wouldn't be strictly necessary for the mount, though it might be situationally better and useful for the rest of the party. Also going to guess Barbarian for the mount since Reckless Attack isn't particularly threatening when the enemies can't target you properly.
@woutvanostaden1299
@woutvanostaden1299 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine it being more of a thornlock as the MC and the mount crappling the enemy so they can't run away. Of course if the mount pc then has sentinel, an order cleric dip and maybe a feature that gives dissadvantage, the enemy is in a tough spot. Monk could actually be interesting here. The monk is for as far as I know the only class that can cut multi-attack of, because stunning strike should work on a reaction and if they fail their saving throw they can't make the remainder of their attacks.
@AgentForest
@AgentForest 2 жыл бұрын
I made a really weird mounted build the other day in a one-shot, and I was mind-blown at how hard it was to kill. Lore Bard 10, Peace Cleric 3 I was a Kobold (new rules, not pack tactics) riding a Polar Bear (reflavored as a giant lizard, but same stats, and the DM gave it a climb speed instead of a swim speed). My mount Mildred was the actual character fighting. Her rider Zeek was a pure support whose only purpose was keeping her alive and fighting. Warding Bond was the staple here. It said the mount would need to wear the ring, but the spell doesn't specify that it has to be on its finger, so it was on a chain around her neck, worked into the harness. I upcast Aid to level 7 for 35 HP to her, me, and one other teammate. Her health went from 42 to 77. Mine went from 94 to 129. She gained +1 to armor and saves, and resistance to all damage, sending the rest to me, so essentially we combined our HP pools and I added 70 total to that pool. Then I'd use Emboldening Bond on her and any other party members, particularly martials looking to land attacks more easily. Basically once-per-turn Bless without concentration. Find Greater Steed makes ANY spell that Zeek cast only on himself apply to her as well. It's go time. Armor of Agathys (Lv6) Mirror Image (Lv2) Fire Shield (Lv4) Shadow of Moil (Lv4) or Spirit Shroud (Lv3) or Haste (Lv3) Sanctuary (Lv1) The Sanctuary drops from Mildred the moment she attacks something, but that's fine. That's the one spell that was specifically for Zeek anyway. His only important magical items were a Staff of Healing and a Guardian Emblem to cancel crits. He doesn't attack anyone anyway, so I can use the rules where my steed can attack, but doesn't share initiative with me. Perfectly acceptable. As a Lore Bard, I can use cutting words to reduce the damage of 5 attacks per short rest. This on top of Warding Bond keeps those 30 temp HP from Armor of Agathys going so much longer, as attackers get blasted for stupid amounts of damage from 2-3 different return-damage spells. If they try to ignore the mount and kill the rider, they have to pass a Wisdom save first, or redirect the attack to someone else (like Mildred) anyway. And even if they succeed, they have to hit through your mirror images. And even if they do, they have to get through cutting words damage reductions. And even if they do, you have all the same shields as your mount, so they hurt themselves and probably won't even touch your real HP. So attacking you personally is almost meaningless. Your mount has okay damage, nothing crazy, but the fact that they have to contend with a whole-ass support riding it does make you a problem. If your mount is getting worn down after a long fight, you can always cast Cure Wounds on yourself (with a slot or your staff), healing you both. Considering you're sharing an HP pool, that's doubled healing. In a pinch, Aura of Vitality can be used for regular, constant sustained healing, applying to both you and the mount as a bonus action for one minute. If you run out of good slots to spend Armor of Agathys on, self-casting Heroism means getting 5 temp HP every turn for both of you, which soaks up 10 damage per round every round for only a 1st level slot. Over that minute, you've ignored up to 100 damage. Not a ton, but it buys time for your healing. At later levels you'll also have Heal (140 HP to your combined health bars) or Regenerate (less of a bulk heal, but it heals 1 HP to each of you every turn for an hour, which can save you resources in the long run). If your DM is feeling generous, you could always take Spirit Guardians instead of Spirit Shroud, as the target is listed as "self", allowing BOTH of you to have that spell going. Some may argue that this spell is area damage, and thus not a spell that "targets only you", to keep that from being abused, but it's really not necessary for the build. You're honestly fine without it. And don't forget, you can hold an action to use Balm of Peace when your mount begins moving, and run around healing your entire team, during which time you are personally immune to opportunity attacks, but the mount isn't (the one you want to be attacked).
@thetestedtelevision
@thetestedtelevision 2 жыл бұрын
In a campaign I played a while back, my character was a Warforged tank for the party but our dm let me have my size be much larger at the cost of 5 feet less movement every round. We then also had a spellcaster who was a halfling. Our favourite thing to do was for me to pick him up and put him on one of my shoulders whilst we were traveling or fighting. Man that was a fun campaign
@evans178
@evans178 2 жыл бұрын
ancestral guardian Centaur + cavalier hafling/kobold INCOMING !
@dakotashowman8133
@dakotashowman8133 2 жыл бұрын
I am unreasonably hype for the full video.
@MasterZenII
@MasterZenII 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm listening" INTENSIFIES
@Cobravenom69
@Cobravenom69 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Centaur fighter, and my party was 3 kobalds. Had a homebrew platform saddle, and the 3 of them rode my centaur as a mount lol.
@DPLEET
@DPLEET 2 жыл бұрын
MASTER BLASTER RULES BARTER TOWN!
@RedK11
@RedK11 2 жыл бұрын
Such a tease, got me so excited
@chrisjacobs4716
@chrisjacobs4716 2 жыл бұрын
My gnome artificer has definitely ridden on the shoulders of our half-orc barbarian as an uncontrolled mount.
@graemeclark3181
@graemeclark3181 2 жыл бұрын
Master and Blaster.
@inskeeprulerable
@inskeeprulerable 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I am excited for this one! Looking forward to my lunch break tomorrow!
@uchitoru666
@uchitoru666 2 жыл бұрын
so a cavalier mounted on a cleric Centaur would be pretty unstoppable
@lostsoulman
@lostsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
Centaur being ridden by a paladin with mounted combat feat. All attacks can be taken by the paladin and both get aura of protection? Centaur is rogue or barbarian? (Maybe with if you attack my ally you get disad). Or ranged and centaur is a wizard and ridden by ranged eldritch knight?
@jakewarman7277
@jakewarman7277 2 жыл бұрын
In my campaign my character, a centaur paladin serve commonly as a mount for my allies and even pull the cart for my team. This is a specific situation where it makes sense at least but it definitely means its possible at some tables
@woutvanostaden1299
@woutvanostaden1299 2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine you could definitely make a build/team/composition where a centaur is mounted by 1 character while also drawing a chariot with yet another character that fights from there.
@medofarahat2624
@medofarahat2624 2 жыл бұрын
it's been 19 hours lads a few more and we will get the eldritch knowledge
@DnDDeepDive
@DnDDeepDive 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@GryphonDes
@GryphonDes 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my.. the possibilities! This will be a fun one ! Looking fwd to it
@mathmagician5990
@mathmagician5990 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely gunna watch this video
@sebastiannilsson3309
@sebastiannilsson3309 2 жыл бұрын
As requested :) looking forward!
@gaidencastro9706
@gaidencastro9706 2 жыл бұрын
I remember asking about this a long time ago.
@StalwartResolve
@StalwartResolve 2 жыл бұрын
Well, color me intrigued!
@lostsoulman
@lostsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot..it's Colby...both are Bladesingers? 😂
@chuckallerston9997
@chuckallerston9997 2 жыл бұрын
Side line :I wanna be boo
@jeffdybdal656
@jeffdybdal656 2 жыл бұрын
I played a centaur ancestral guardians barbarian with a buddy playing a halfling cavalier fighter in a low level campaign that ended at 5th level. I took Sentinel and buddy took Mounted Combatant at fourth. We had a twilight cleric in the party and the enemies literally couldn’t get enough damage on the board to down us in our encounters.
@soldierofkazus
@soldierofkazus 2 жыл бұрын
Remove all ambiguity, play as an actual bear
@michaelfox8297
@michaelfox8297 2 жыл бұрын
Master Blaster vibe me thinks
@2rustysporks
@2rustysporks 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tease for the next vid lol
@Parostem
@Parostem 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's probably going to be a wild shaped druid as the mount, but I'm holding out hope for a humanoid giving a piggy back ride like Master Blaster from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome Or Ferra-Torr from Mortal Kombat X.
@antoniczarnecki9455
@antoniczarnecki9455 2 жыл бұрын
Rogue Mount and Tank Rider, watch it happen.
@exodortch
@exodortch Жыл бұрын
Master blaster!
@Laufbursche4u
@Laufbursche4u 2 жыл бұрын
I'm building this right now and the clip shows up. Yay.
@woutvanostaden1299
@woutvanostaden1299 2 жыл бұрын
So for mount I would guess either centaur like everyone else guessed or bugbear for the synergy with rune knight. I would think that a order cleric dip by either the "mount" or "mounted" would be a good idea. As for other classes that would make good picks, wolf totem barbarian, AG barbarian, rogue (especially phantom), ranger, or paladin, but ranged characters would it easier to fight depending on the initiative order on the other hand a lot of perks of being mounted are best for melee, so mobile will be a must, I think.
@ANDELE3025
@ANDELE3025 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone going Centaur or Druid, but where are the chads with Loxodon and Simic Hybrid suggestions of using the extra limb(s) to support the mounted small character?
@TBPlayer810
@TBPlayer810 2 жыл бұрын
what on earth did you have me draw Colby????
@johngallant1629
@johngallant1629 11 ай бұрын
I am in the process of creating a centaur build as a mount to have an Allie riding on it, I was looking into rogue & barbarian and I’m not sure what weapons we will be using so I still need to work on it a bit, but I wanted my mount to be faster than other mounts with Mobil feat to get out of melee without opportunity attacks.
@agilemind6241
@agilemind6241 2 жыл бұрын
This is a superfun thought experiment, and can work out pretty powerful. "Mount:" Centaur / Goliath / Loxodon - Ancestral Guardian Barbarian rocking Sentinel + GWM + Halberd (grab Rune Knight 4 at some point) "Rider": Kobold - Twilight Cleric + Mounted Combatant + Resilient Constitution Or consider: Centaur / Goliath / Loxodon - Phantom Rogue with Sentinel Ridden by: Goblin - Bladesinger + Mounted Combatant
@TheRobversion1
@TheRobversion1 2 жыл бұрын
yeah RAW another player can be a mount for another player.
@adc1222
@adc1222 2 жыл бұрын
Must have the appropriate anatomy for one player to mount the other, huh? So that's what people mean when they talk about D&D and doing it raw
@casualpequod6054
@casualpequod6054 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds lewd
@jani1848
@jani1848 Жыл бұрын
I had the same idea a couple of months ago and i was so proud of myself but someone already did it before me...
@dragoknight589
@dragoknight589 2 жыл бұрын
If I were DMing, I’d say that a Small humanoid could piggyback on top of, say, an Aarakocra. I’m predicting a Centaur/Aarakocra Rogue and either a Small Custom Lineage or Kobold with the Mounted Combatant feat.
@TheRawrnstuff
@TheRawrnstuff 2 жыл бұрын
As a DM, I'd rule someone riding you somewhat equivalent to "wearing medium or heavy armor" when it comes to Aarakocran flight speed. I could be swayed if the Aarakocra was built with a strength focus.
@woutvanostaden1299
@woutvanostaden1299 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRawrnstuff or maybe specialized for the build rune knight + atleast 3 lvls in a class that gets enlarge reduce?
@agilemind6241
@agilemind6241 2 жыл бұрын
@@woutvanostaden1299 Duergar Rune Knight?
@woutvanostaden1299
@woutvanostaden1299 2 жыл бұрын
@@agilemind6241 excellent choice👍
@DnDDeepDive
@DnDDeepDive 2 жыл бұрын
Full episode here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNajq7lyt9bGeZ8.html
@josephyungman9599
@josephyungman9599 2 жыл бұрын
Have previously done a ancestral guardian centaur with levels in cleric for warding bond and heals on the rider. Could also see armorer artificer for the disadvantage on all targets… but whats the rider? Is this going to be an order domain cleric with a rogue on top for healing word giving hp and a reaction attack that procs sneak attack? Very intrigued.
@apocryphgaming9995
@apocryphgaming9995 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Goliath Rune Knight who acted as a mount for a Halfling Ranger. He had *equipment* heavier than the Halfling, and sitting on the Goliath's shoulders ala 'Pike & Grog' style kinda made sense. I do know there is some sage advice against Centaurs serving as mounts, though, if that's where you're going with your next video. Only because it's something that came up enough for Mr Crawford to weigh in.
@Doughy_in_the_Middle
@Doughy_in_the_Middle 2 жыл бұрын
WHO RUN BARTERTOWN?
@lypiberri7173
@lypiberri7173 2 жыл бұрын
Centaurs lesgooo 2 characters (a fairly tall warforged and a homebrew crab) in a campaign I'm currently in are mounts for a gnome character. So I'm interested in how this goes.
@hortusmundi
@hortusmundi Жыл бұрын
Who run BarterTown? … … Master Blaster runs BarterTown!
@bigaj6901
@bigaj6901 2 жыл бұрын
Big Daddy from Bioshock?
@Mike-mm8gg
@Mike-mm8gg 2 жыл бұрын
Could you in theory take mounted combatant as a tank, thus forcing every attack against your fast mount against you
@Ricardo-zo1ti
@Ricardo-zo1ti 2 жыл бұрын
HYPE!
@Lizaeus
@Lizaeus 2 жыл бұрын
Yay a tank team!
@otakarkuby3926
@otakarkuby3926 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a guy who wanted to play a really tough barbarian, that was not very inteligent. In various situations the player would make inteligent choices for the barbarain to act under, only to have the DM make the barbarian role on Int or Wis everytime he made an"intelectual" desicion. (the Barbarian really was that thick I dont think the player repeated that build in a hurry.
@otakarkuby3926
@otakarkuby3926 2 жыл бұрын
The DM even questioned the Barbs ability to string a sentance lol
@Kingmaster64
@Kingmaster64 2 жыл бұрын
I am not really a mount (ingame ;) ) but my wifes character, a mousefolk, often travels on the shoulder of my Minotaur. She's my Pikachu.
@EdsonR13
@EdsonR13 2 жыл бұрын
I think that still qualifies you as a mount
@Kingmaster64
@Kingmaster64 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdsonR13 i thought more about mounted battling but I guess
@megamarkread
@megamarkread 2 жыл бұрын
Hype!
@MaldraediorG
@MaldraediorG 2 жыл бұрын
That's none of your business and I'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
@charlescampbell7230
@charlescampbell7230 2 жыл бұрын
so, centaur rogue with a halfling cavalier? sign me up :D
@EdsonR13
@EdsonR13 2 жыл бұрын
Rogue? Any specific reason for that one?
@charlescampbell7230
@charlescampbell7230 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdsonR13 because with an ally on your back you will always have backstab damage in melee
@EdsonR13
@EdsonR13 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlescampbell7230 ah yes of course
@agilemind6241
@agilemind6241 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlescampbell7230 It's even better than that because if the rider has Mounted Combatant and the mount has Sentinel then the rogu-ish mount is all but guaranteed two sneak attacks per round.
@strahlungsopfer
@strahlungsopfer 6 ай бұрын
been working on a mounted character, but am close to scrapping because the rules for mounted combat simply do not allow mounted combat. gotta talk to my dm, because if you play mounted combat RAW, you're better off just not doing that.
@kaeles3548
@kaeles3548 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't fairies tiny/small? They could ride on any races back ;-P
@rubensledsens572
@rubensledsens572 2 жыл бұрын
centaur ancestral guardian incoming?
@Robert-iu4bx
@Robert-iu4bx 2 жыл бұрын
I hope for another class...
@agilemind6241
@agilemind6241 2 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly, but I think you're purely maximizing DPS you'd be better off doing: Centaur - Rune Knight + Sentinel + GWM Custom Lineage - Eldritch Knight + Mounted Combatant + Crossbow Expert + Sharpshooter
@michaelseparovich
@michaelseparovich 2 жыл бұрын
ok but is there anything in the rules that says that a gnome in magical armour cant be used as a weapon?
@HealingSwordsman
@HealingSwordsman 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing in the rules say a dog can't play basketball! ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNyWY7qI3di9goE.html Id so allow this!!!
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