Can Cate Blanchett ACTUALLY Conduct?

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Ай бұрын

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@Maggie-cd9hc Ай бұрын

to be fair, the offstage trumpet being a controversial choice was a plot point in the film! its subtle but meant to hint at the conductor’s arrogance

@VivaLaVittoria Ай бұрын

And where everyone sits/stands/moves is the director's decision, not the actors'!

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

Exactly! It goes to her conversation with Andris about making the piece “hers” by adding some ridiculous element

@jacobamidon3114 Ай бұрын

I also think of it as a bit of a dig that she wasn’t as good as she thought she was. She can’t compose anything herself and her big “innovation” was to remove something unique.

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

@@jacobamidon3114 agreed! She is such an interesting character, I learn more about her the more I watch the film and interact with these observations :)

@monsoon1234567890 Ай бұрын

"Can I just say, they look like brass players" lol

@trashbagmuffins Ай бұрын

Legend says that to this day Brett is still pretending to be Eddy

@ItIsJustJudy Ай бұрын

Having professional brass players in my family, I agree with Brett.

@Ny.4981 Ай бұрын

As a french horn player, I’m always wondering what a typical brass player looks like then….

@hypnoteapot Ай бұрын

@@Ny.4981you.

@izasawicka2353 Ай бұрын

@@trashbagmuffins right??? I have noticed that in recent videos he always says "can i just say".... Brett be carefull, you are becoming Eddy!

@damara8729 Ай бұрын

This feels like a perfect example of how (like Kirsten Dunst recently said) "method acting is something only men can afford to do". Like, to have space for the pretentiousness of it. And the fact that Cate's performance that stood on its own merit and didn't have a deluge of self-aggrandizing promotions vs. Cooper's nonsense and saying he spent '7 years learning to conduct' was actually the more accurate of the two... *chef's kiss*

@faithxu5558 25 күн бұрын

Tbh I think Cooper was just a really big fan of conducting and got too excited to be accurate without doing legit practice. His conducting looked like he got too swept away with the excitement to make eye contact with the right sections at the right times which made it really confusing to follow any cues imo Whereas Cate is calmer and taking the time to make eye contact at the right times and it just makes more sense for following.

@cariboubearmalachy1174 19 күн бұрын

Between Brad and Cate, I think the latter is more promoted as a great acting talent who takes her craft seriously.

@Leo0718 15 күн бұрын

Cooper is a hack.

@hothotheat3000 12 күн бұрын

Cate’s a humble lady who doesn’t have to declare herself a great. Everyone knows she’s great. Cooper is desperate for recognition.

@kingdain159 Ай бұрын

I can’t get over the fact that the biggest hint they’re a real orchestra is how the brass section looks

@xavozz7839 Ай бұрын

She even called the solo trumpet by his real name ;) Christian Höcherl, great player

@roxyamused Ай бұрын

lols

@paavobergmann4920 Ай бұрын

If you played in an orchestra, you´ll know. They really do.

@princessjellyfish98 Ай бұрын

Learning that Mahler specifically calls for off-stage trumpet in other pieces but not this one actually makes total sense for her character. Lydia Tár absolutely has the hubris necessary to change the piece like that 😂

@dwfaught Ай бұрын

Well, she changed her name. Wasn't really Lydia at all. LOL.

@Jaegertiger Ай бұрын

.... has the hubris "necessary" ???? Sorry. But her hubris is completely UNNECESSARY because she lacks actual talent. Just because she can say "good, good" in a German accent doesn't mean she is skilled.

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

Yes, in one of her conversations with Andris (the prior Berlin conductor) they specifically discuss how to form a 'legacy' and make their recording of classic pieces 'their own'. They reference Bernstein slowing down the Adagietto movement of the 5th for JFK's funeral. So along these lines, when you are super arrogant like Lydia, you may resort to doing something ridiculous like the offstage trumpet.

@dwfaught Ай бұрын

@@tekraynak I was just watching a video about Gould and how he slowed the tempo for Brahms Piano Concerto No. 1 (and also played p when f indicated, and vice versa). Some people thought he destroyed the piece (even Bernstein stated that he was not responsible for the interpretation before the performance) and some people thought him brilliant. I think new interpretations are interesting as long as they reveal something in the music that we didn't see/hear before. When they are done to just be different, then it's pure ego. In this case it seems to be Lydia's ego since that's all she had at this point in her journey. Whatever greatness she had once had was based on her musical genius and now it's just tricks and hot air (don't get me started on her "lecture").

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

@@dwfaught Agree! I also personally like to think the off-stage trumpet may be linked to the ghost story (Krista's suicide and haunting of Lydia) behind the film ... off-stage melodies that influence the living world of the orchestra... :)

@yujuti8416 Ай бұрын

It seems to me that when they prepare for their conducting scenes, Bradly Copper just watched a bunch of Bernstein's conducting videos and copied his movements and facial expressions, and Cate Blanchett actually took conducting lessons with a pro.

@bnabound Ай бұрын

For one, Bradley Cooper took many lessons with a pro conductor (from what I understand for years) but more importantly, Cate Blanchett didn't have to copy an existing, iconic composer such as Bernstein so she was free to create everything about her conductor persona as she pleased. People seem to forget that when comparing the two movies.

@user-mz4on5zc4g Ай бұрын

Who did she study with? Obviously it was a better teacher than Cooper's.

@inesquick2991 Ай бұрын

Cooper studied with Yannick Nezet-Seguin (famous Canadian conducter) and I honestly think he did a good job ! As said before, he had to copy Bernstein so his role was a bit different than Blanchett's. And he might have just learnt how to copy and not how to properly conduct

@AndreGasparConductor Ай бұрын

Both had a coach. Both have flaws and both have good moments. Overall, both movies have taken the interest of focusing on personal lives of these characters either fictional or not, for entertainment purposes.

@leaflaurel Ай бұрын

Also possible that in Maestro, they cut footage of him directing another part of the piece and just overlaid the audio. Could have just been editing decisions.

@taeste1041 Ай бұрын

“whenever you don’t know what you’re meant to be doing but you wanna look professional you just start marking things” DIDNT ASK TO BE CALLED OUT ON A THURSDAY AFTERNOON

@lefthandedclogger Ай бұрын

700th comment on a Tuesday afternoon 😂

@Tmanaz480 Ай бұрын

You're not supposed to talk about these things!

@1ro868 28 күн бұрын

Theres no reason to attack me

@aurweon 26 күн бұрын

The first rule about fight club - I mean orchestral playing…

@PatriciaHoferMsPattiMarc 23 күн бұрын

The same applies for chorale singers. Take notes even though you’re confused about something. 🤣

@iwatchtoomuchtwoset Ай бұрын

I thought Galadriel was badass before, but now she's even more badass.

@lindildeev5721 Ай бұрын

She was badass even before that, when she told the Spanish ambassador that she too controlled the wind.

@VongolaChouko Ай бұрын

@@lindildeev5721 OM I love that scene!

@wanwan2180 Ай бұрын

honestly as someone from Germany I can say that her German in the movie was also really good, she obviously puts a lot of effort into her roles

@Yu-Fei-Hung Ай бұрын

Philharmonic Orchestra of Lothlórien

@CharlieHuang Ай бұрын

She's a badass in things that were, things that are, and things that have not yet come to pass.

@romilrh Ай бұрын

**Lydia Tar tackles the conductor** TwoSet: "Very accurate, I've seen this before a lot actually"

@jesus-of-cheeses Ай бұрын

The concertmaster is the only orchestra musician there who’s not an actual orchestra musician. Everyone else is from Dresden Philharmonic. There’s a supporting cellist character who’s an actual cellist. I’m far more impressed how well these musicians act than how well Kate Blanchett conducts. Btw, 2set should do a review of the whole movie. It covers some interesting issues (conductor toxicity and abuse). There are also some classical inside jokes that I don’t think a lot of commentators got.

@elizabethtout7163 Ай бұрын

Yes, why waste time acknowledging Cate’s brilliance when she’s never anything less than brilliant. Ho hum.

@MattMattGu Ай бұрын

As someone who used to work at a classical music artist agency, I laughed at the industry inside jokes. I was probably the only one in the cinema laughing at those jokes. Tár is a brilliant film and I love it!

@JC2023HD Ай бұрын

Yes! They absolutely should review the whole movie!

@sfdntk Ай бұрын

@@MattMattGuCan you tell us what those jokes were and why they were funny? Sounds interesting.

@michaelhill4583 Ай бұрын

You guys should review the conducting in the series Mozart in the Jungle.

@micahsnow346 Ай бұрын

Honestly y’all should watch the entire movie. There are a lot of really interesting topics covered about things like cancel culture in classical music, gender dynamics in the classical world, and most importantly, the inherent power dynamics within an orchestra. It’s a really thrilling watch and clearly very well researched. It’s not just Blanchett’s conducting that’s believable, her dialogue with others and the environments surrounding her are all steeped in music history. Loved it and thought it was not given enough attention when it came out

@maryvallettakeith6146 Ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with everything you wrote.

@timsenesi6161 Ай бұрын

COMPLETELY agree, it’s a stunning film!

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

100% agree, fantastic film that gets a lot of the insider politics of classical music pretty accurately.

@ambroisekirin5236 Ай бұрын

Honestly, I thought it was the most pretentious misrepresentation of classical music I've ever seen.

@abassyomi.o Ай бұрын

Talking about music history, there's an alarm on her phone, and the way she woke up to that alarm felt like a metaphor for the film as a whole! Only someone who truly understands music could pull off the subtlety of that scene!

@ItIsJustJudy Ай бұрын

The orchestra is the Dresden Philharmonic.

@oxoelfoxo Ай бұрын

but the concertmaster is an actor, i hope?

@Jejaimes20 Ай бұрын

@@oxoelfoxo It makes sense that the concert master would be an actress. I think in the US at least you have to be part of an actors' guild or something to actually have dialogue in a movie, and the "concert master" had a speaking part. There might be simliar rules in other countries.

@jesus-of-cheeses Ай бұрын

@@Jejaimes20 The concertmaster is an actress because she’s Tar’s partner and has a very big role in the movie outside the orchestra scenes. So she needs to carry an emotional arc of a very important character, unlike all the other musicians whose characters are more incidental and static

@keyem4504 Ай бұрын

Was Cate actually speaking German here or was that a dubbing with an accent on purpose? If she was doing it herself it was quite good.

@Joie-du-sang Ай бұрын

@@keyem4504I think she's pretty committed to her roles. I'm sure if she didn't already speak German she learned how to speak enough for the part.

@of-ld4se Ай бұрын

The "baseball batting" baton stuff in 4:43 was taken from Bernstein. And it's not Cate Blanchett who copies Bernstein, it's Lydia Tár, who really worships Bernstein (as you will find later on in the movie). So much so that she even quotes an entire line from Bernstein's well-known Shostakovich 5 rehearsal (i.e. "no, you must watch etc.") during her rehearsal. I'm sure many classical music fans picked this up when they watched the movie.

@rics1883 Ай бұрын

Interesting. Lydia Tar is a complete facade, and this detail adds a layer to Blanchett's complex character. Good observation.

@KarlaGarcia-of7rh Ай бұрын

Very interesting! thanks for sharing!

@MrOtistetrax Ай бұрын

Totally on point observation. All of their criticisms can be directed at the character rather than the actor. The fact that Blanchett is able to convey that Tar herself is flawed as a conductor is phenomenal. This movie really is one of the greatest pieces of acting I’ve ever witnessed.

@laimaravillon895 Ай бұрын

@@MrOtistetraxin what sense is she flawed?

@subsonicdeathmonkey Ай бұрын

Reasons! Thank you 🙏

@quillclock Ай бұрын

Take me down to the stiff City Where the brass is clean and the strings are gritty Oh, won't you please take it slow

@elinamakela8435 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@antine1279 Ай бұрын

I'd say Eddy would probably get this, and Brett probably wouldn't xD

@aurweon 26 күн бұрын

If you play slow, you can play it quickly

@sepiae Ай бұрын

You guys really *should* watch this movie, it's really great. It also features a brilliant little moment when Mrs. Blanchett as Tar dresses down/tries to educate a student, and in the process demonstrates a few ways to play Bach on the piano (which the actress plays herself), and getting Glenn Gould's way and manner absolutely right. Blanchett has a keen interest in classical music, by the way, especially classical music of the 20th century. In all fairness to Nina Hoss, who plays her partner the concert master, getting the violin right as an actor who isn't a violinist must be quite a challenge.

@Jaegertiger Ай бұрын

LOUSY....

@12345678abracadabra Ай бұрын

@@Jaegertigersays the loser virgin

@humblesparrow Ай бұрын

The cellist was a real musician too, from what I heard.

@ven1s0n Ай бұрын

@humblesparrow Yeah, this movie was her debut acting role and she was just a cellist before Tár.

@moldypizza Ай бұрын

Hands down best movie of 2022

@Chamtechie Ай бұрын

Yeeah, i remember kinda cringing at the concertmaster's violin playing when I saw the movie. The reason is that she's Lydia Tar's partner, so an actor with a lot of serious dramatic scenes in the film but relatively few where she's actually shown playing the violin. As for the sacrilegious offstage trumpet, it makes more sense in the context of the film.

@trinitysxxi Ай бұрын

I'd say even the concertmaster's mistakes are on purpose, since it gives credit to the idea that Tar gave her that spot just because she was her favorite, not because of her talent, and the fact that she's not that good also plays a role in Tar's infatuation with the new girl.

@nelsonang Ай бұрын

i saw an interview with Cate Blanchett for this movie and she mentioned how overwhelming it was when the orchestra comes in at the command of the baton...

@lefthandedclogger Ай бұрын

It’s like suddenly gaining magical powers. Those batons are magic when the orchestra is following!

@LikesLimes Ай бұрын

When I played in youth orchestra I always felt the conductor was like a magician who could make a tremendous sound out of thin air. Orchestral performance to this day gives me that feeling.

@Raylock9 Ай бұрын

As a German it‘s almost more interesting to hear the accent when Cate Blanchett speaks German. But I think she speaks it very good.

@wingedyera Ай бұрын

I'm not German but I speak it a little bit and I was thinking the same thing

@rics1883 Ай бұрын

Yes, there is definitely an accent to her German but her character Lydia Tar lived in Germany for 5-6 years so it was Blanchett's idea to add German. Adds a layer of authenticity

@colettepot7350 Ай бұрын

Lol, much better than Oppenheimer’s Dutch…

@highelectricaltemperature Ай бұрын

The character isn’t a native German speaker. If I remember the movie correctly, I think it’s eventually revealed that she grew up in Upstate New York.

@wishingonthemoon1 Ай бұрын

Friend of a friend played in the orchestra and cheekily remarked, “she conducts better than some of the ‘real’ conductors we work with…”

@MissCaraMint 24 күн бұрын

Wow. Yeah that is praise. Hell I conduct a choir myself, and she is definitly better than I am, so I can believe it.

@elnavandermerwe5098 Ай бұрын

I read this explanation online for the cross the orchestra member drew: "Dmitri Mitropoulos, the giant Greek who was Leonard Bernstein’s predecessor at the New York Philharmonic, expired during a 1960 La Scala rehearsal of the stately opening movement of Mahler’s Third Symphony. We know exactly where he died because the second bassoonist drew a cross in his score at the 86th bar, noting: “In questa misura e morto il Maestro Mitropoulos."

@AdamVill Ай бұрын

It was pretty clear from context that the mark was a pre-planned "we got *this* far before Tar made a scene" sort of thing, but it's cool to hear that there's a similar, actual historical precedent as well!

@elnavandermerwe5098 Ай бұрын

@@AdamVill Maybe Todd Field meant this to denote the death of Lydia Tar as a respected conductor.

@colinsmithers6961 Ай бұрын

"è morto".

@LadyPelikan Ай бұрын

Cool anecdote!

@WdymWork Ай бұрын

Wow didn’t know that. This is an interesting explanation. Thank you!

@aftarsun Ай бұрын

I love that you guys could tell they were legit just from looking at the brass players. Yes, aside from the actors for the main characters, that's the legit Dresden Orchestra! On your comment about the off stage trumpet - yeah the fact that it's pretty insulting is part of the character study going on lol you guys should check out the full movie. Loved hearing your thoughts on this!

@Hochspitz Ай бұрын

Cate is just bloody fantastic! This was an extremely hard role to play.

@MissCaraMint 24 күн бұрын

Haha. Dudes got so carried away way by her accurate conducting performance that they started critisizing her conducting choices. Now that’s a convincing performance.

@sabrinai Ай бұрын

Twoset heard our prayers!!! Thank you for reacting to this! Wondering if it's gonna be as sacrilegious as the Chevalier one.

@M_SC Ай бұрын

It wasn’t. Chavalier was a movie by people who didn’t like classical music or history for people who don’t like classical music or history. Or maybe for children. Tar is a slow burn psychological illumination of a certain kind of personality. It’s intellectual, it’s emotionally like an infection. It’s completely inaccessible to kids. it’s not really about music, it’s about personality and psychology, and to an extent about talent and power. But the music parts are well done. They have real musicians. Cate does a god job.

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

@@M_SC Agree. Tar is foremost a depiction of narcissism and abuse in the context of a predefined political power structure, which here happens to be the classical music world.

@skygaz3r Ай бұрын

Having watched Tar, I was so impressed at the different layers of the movie and of Cate Blanchett’s acting! Highly recommend!

@moonpiter Ай бұрын

twoset should definitely react to the Tar scene where she gives a lecture at juilliard too!

@clutchmatic Ай бұрын

That subject is too heavy for this channel, unfortunately

@rics1883 Ай бұрын

That Lecture scene is incredibly dense, all due respect but I don't think these guys can unearth the complexities in that particular scene but Blanchett playing Bach with playful precision with so much dialogue and all in one take, it's pretty extraordinary. Shows the Blanchett's command as an actor

@ntent1 Ай бұрын

@@rics1883yea, as much as I love twoset, they’re too comedic in order to fully unpack that scene for their audience.

@bluedotantics20165 2 күн бұрын

It's not an especially convincing representation of a conservatory masterclass, and there's not a lot there to react to musically. That scene is more about establishing characterizarion

@clubedanarrativa5603 Ай бұрын

The down angle shot is usually meant to portray a character as being superior, we associate the down shot with greatness, hence why they captured the conductor in that angle

@MohammadYaseen01 Ай бұрын

Exactly, and it fits the narrative with her starting on top at the beginning of the movie until her eventual downfall by the end.

@merylgonsalves7471 Ай бұрын

But it's really too low. Could have used 1 at thigh level instead

@shahs1221 Ай бұрын

@@merylgonsalves7471it's stylistic choice. Distortion or more extreme angles give a sense of offness... Which is VERY much this movie. It fits.

@AngeloBarovierSD Ай бұрын

I contend it’s the sum of both the audience expectations (of a conductor) and the character’s own self-image (as superior to all others).

@garysimkins2179 Ай бұрын

I work in Film, and I have had the pleasure of working on a production where Kate Blanchet was starring as well as being an executive producer. I can tell you that her presence on set and even approaching set is one that will take your breathe away. She is a tour de force , and her strength and commitment to the role is incredible. I believe that she would have had conversations with the director as well as the coaches about how her particular character is in this setting. I highly recommend seeing the film.

@GrandZimty Ай бұрын

Now we need a reaction to the entire movie of Tar!!!

@ellooku Ай бұрын

Cate is one actor that does things professionally. She truly becomes what ever character you gave her. My three favorite till this day is, Lord of the rings, Elizabeth and Thor Ragnarock. She nailed those cast.

@rutmarybucarito5621 Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the shoulder movement was to adjust the bra strap 😂😂😂

@annika5893 Ай бұрын

Cate Blanchett is very much like Meryl Streep, meaning both are simply excellent in their chosen art form. I don't know what this movie is about exactly, I haven't seen it. But the ending scene kind of looked like this could be some kind of a Black Swan for orchestra conductors situation.

@wanf872 Ай бұрын

black swan is not a bad comparison but they are very different beyond the psychological thriller aspect. tar is really great. highly recommend you check it out. one of cate blanchett's best.

@rics1883 Ай бұрын

Both films show psychological downfall of an artist, but Tar is much more subtle feels real and stays with you for long compared to Balck Swan. Cate Blanchett gave her best performance, which is crazy thing to say considering diverse roles she played throughout her career.

@Siljamaarit Ай бұрын

Whenever I watch Meryl Streep act, I think ”Meryl Streep is a great actress” but when I see Kate Blanchett in any role, I forget she is acting. She becomes the person in the role; whether it is LOTR, Tár, Carol, Blue Jasmine, you name it.

@Bongi344 27 күн бұрын

@@Siljamaaritactually I feel the same... and there's one more actress makes me feel the same way: Amy Adams. Just super believable.

@AdmiralJaneway74656 Ай бұрын

Her German is actually quite good. And yeah, the first scene three me rigjt back into the orchestra 😂

@lefthandedclogger Ай бұрын

I was thinking that too! I studied German for a long time, she wouldn’t pass for a native speaker but it’s quite good and honestly that’s so hard to pull off for a movie

@rics1883 Ай бұрын

@@lefthandedclogger True but she's not supposed to be a native speaker anyway as her character lives in Berlin for 5-6 yrs. And it was Blanchett's idea to have her character speak German, which adds a layer of authenticity to character. That Blanchett knocked it out of the part

@TheNextDoorNeighboor Ай бұрын

We need Stiff City merch, who agrees?

@androidkenobi Ай бұрын

Escape from Stiff City... Go Practice!

@deschua Ай бұрын

You guys NEED to review the Korean drama Maestra, please! (Somehow Cate Blanchett gives me the same vibes as the conductor in Maestra.)

@sepiae Ай бұрын

Every word in 'Korean drama Maestra' just tickles my interest. Hadn't heard about that one, thanks for the tip. 🙂

@deschua Ай бұрын

@@sepiae it’s on Disney+ if you wanna catch it! 😀

@loui9710 Ай бұрын

I believe that’s because the inception of the K-drama, Maestra, is based on the plot of Tár.

@clairefroissart2784 28 күн бұрын

@@loui9710 I believe that k-drama Maestra isn't completely based on Tár . I read they bought the copyright from en French TV called Philarmonia (2019) .

@028fn48dne Ай бұрын

The difference here is pretty explainable: Bradley Cooper is a good actor. Cate Blanchett is among the greatest actors of her generation.

@bryanmontemayor6640 20 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@akashr7069 Ай бұрын

Hey twosetviolin I am your big fan , i watch all your videos and after seeing yours violin performance I got motivated to learn violin and today was my first violin classs ❤❤ I am so happy 😊

@tchaiksimp Ай бұрын

You should totally react to the Julliard scene from this movie too!!! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

@oxoelfoxo Ай бұрын

is there a clip on YT?

@benmckay4004 Ай бұрын

I felt like I was in a real musicology lecture

@moonpiter Ай бұрын

omg yes!! that scene was awesome, they would have a field day reacting to it

@pianogirl9458 Ай бұрын

Yesssss!!

@heartheart5543 Ай бұрын

And it was done in 1 take

@austinluther5825 Ай бұрын

Cate Blanchett was also in this movie called Paradise Road where women in a concentration camp form a vocal orchestra. I think Glenn Close plays the woman who conducts and Cate Blanchett is one of the women in the orchestra. Great movie that greatly respects classical music. You guys should check it out.

@jolandafeline620 Ай бұрын

This video is kind of emotional for me to watch, since TwoSet are the reason I went to my first classical concert during the pandemic. Since then, I had the pleasure of listening to the Dresden Philharmonic in the concert hall Kulturpalast Dresden many times - which are the orchestra and location of the movie they are talking about in this video. So I kind of got to watch a TwoSet video featuring my go to orchestra and concert hall - thank you guys!

@saynotzai Ай бұрын

Unrelated to the video but I nocice the subcribers are at 4,31M , they shpould record themselves doing 4′33″ and post it when they reach that number.

@Vivi-Mage Ай бұрын

Yes!!

@trashbagmuffins Ай бұрын

Twoset: WE NEED MORE CONTENT!! Movies: At your service 😉 PS BRING BACK VIOLIN CHARADES!!

@Camille-Saint-Saens Ай бұрын

YESSS

@simplytwosetter Ай бұрын

Eddy, if you don't know what concerto to play for 5M, how about conducting one😂 I just love all the details he went into about conducting, I learned a lot from him!! (Brett can be the principal viola lol jk jk, concertmaster of course!

@fannymozzarella Ай бұрын

I'm suggesting he do Paganini for 5M! I am so desperate for it! LOL

@chia_s_ee_d Ай бұрын

@@fannymozzarellaI agree!!! Or Brahms, do u reckon pag 1 or 2? I like 1 more

@andrewzhang8512 Ай бұрын

@@chia_s_ee_d pag 0!

@iwatchtoomuchtwoset Ай бұрын

Ohh cool idea! I'm hoping he plays Barber or Korngold tho

@hashdankhog8578 Ай бұрын

@@iwatchtoomuchtwosetkorngold is gorgeous. I was kinda hoping they would do a viola concerto just for the memes

@Grimsg Ай бұрын

Cate was an absolute legend in this film, sure she's not a true conductor, but she convinced the majority of people who watched it. Naturally actual orchestra people like you guys would know the small things that don't work, but still, she did an amazing job. I genuinely thought she was going to get an Oscar for this film. Do watch the film, its quite an experience. Ok Nina Hoss (1st violin) is quite a legendary actor in Germany, she did learn violin for this and walp, didn't get the pass from you guys, but it fooled us non-violin people. Interestingly, I did watch a performance of Mahler 5 in March last year when the Singapore Symphony Orchestra recently did it with conductor maestro Lawrence Renes. And could hear the differences between the 'Tar' version and the original 'how it was meant to sound like', yeah the 'Tar' version is overblown on purpose to just go crazy with the power and oomph of the orchestra, and the original opening movement was actually more solemn because it is a funeral march. It was quite an experience witnessing it being played live especially after watching the Tar film.

@phoebes5008 Ай бұрын

Nina Hoss is amazing!

@rics1883 Ай бұрын

It's crazy how this masterpiece got snubbed especially her performance, despite not winning it will stand test of time

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

@@rics1883 Cate was truly robbed. Best acting performance of 2020's so far in my opinion. The EEAAO cultists bullied the Academy into voting for their farce film, with threats of 'racism' lobbed at anyone who didn't vote for Yeoh.

@5starsmichellin550 Ай бұрын

I'm so happy when they upload new videos frequently.❤

@chaotic_violist Ай бұрын

The writing random stuff in your music is so relatable lol, my stand partner and I always write down weird quotes from our conductor, and sometimes add drawings too…we’re very serious

@hydrogen3266 Ай бұрын

My band director at college was always saying the silliest stuff. I’d always write quotes from him in my music. Under a long rest where there was a bassoon solo, I’d written “bassoony goodness” because that’s he’d refer to it. There were other miscellaneous things he’d say that would always make us laugh. He always had great energy

@chaotic_violist Ай бұрын

Haha that’s an awesome quote One of my favorite quotes from our conductor is “what the pluck” lol - it was during a piece that was entirely pizzicato, and always made us laugh after we wrote it into our music in huge letters

@nutritionalyeast704 Ай бұрын

One of the main actors in that movie is actually a professional cellist!

@rebeccablashock3829 Ай бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate your content! I was waiting for this one... 😊

@apersonuser Ай бұрын

'so you look like you care about the rhythm' 🤣 STOP CALLING US OUTTT

@marinhomedrado2239 Ай бұрын

Hello guys, don't know if you'll read this, but I've always loved classical music, and thanks to you two I just started violin lessons last month and I couldn't be more excited about it. I feel it will take a lot of effort but it has been really joyful to se improvements little by little. Wish you all the best and thank you!

@stevenho660 Ай бұрын

The off stage trumpet is part of the plot. Lydia Tár talks about it and gives her reasons. I wonder if there is like a piano channel who does this, it would be interesting to hear comments on God of the Piano. The Beat that my Heart Skipped. The Piano Teacher. So many.

@AwesomeOwl5 Ай бұрын

Recommend watching Tar! some people vary with the plot but it has interesting things to say about “creative genius”, current culture in music schools re: how people evaluate “problematic” art (it’s accurate I think because music students do push back against western canon I know them personally lol) and of course, harassment and politics in the classical orchestra world. And it’s got actual musicians!

@DameMitHermelin Ай бұрын

There's a bit of violin and cello playing in Peter Weir's "Master and Commander" that I simply cannot wait for you to comment on. Russel Crowe said that learning to play the violin was the most difficult thing he ever had to do for any movie. They were overdubbed by actual musicians in the post but they did play pieces like Boccherini etc.

@lounakin Ай бұрын

Tar used a real orchestra except for the first violin who is an actress. Kate spent a lot of time learning and practicing, which is why it was so good. I really enjoyed the film, you should definitely watch it!

@MissCaraMint 24 күн бұрын

You can tell she knew the piece she was conducting damn well. The preparation required for these scenes would be enormous.

@AquaVantae Ай бұрын

Missed yall!!

@dalajuliette Ай бұрын

I’d never been able to scroll through all the twoset comments before…this is nice just the 85 of us

@londongael414 Ай бұрын

174 for me, but yeah, feels intimate 😊

@ruanpingshan Ай бұрын

The "interesting camera angle" was also on the poster for the movie when it came out.

@angeleii._. Ай бұрын

yo!!! they reacted to it!! i think they should react to the lion and the wolf, there’s some really good musical references there too

@anaroxanadiaz 26 күн бұрын

I was sooooo waiting for this video🤩

@mjsabigan780 Ай бұрын

WAITING FOR THIS!

@BONGIOCJ Ай бұрын

Love u guys!

@sophelet Ай бұрын

Great analysis. In fact, I have sung Mahler 2 in two different years with Bernstein and NY Philharmonic, and recognized many of the connections in "Lydia Tár"'s hero worship and infatuations. All of the contemporary composers named in the movie are in fact real, active, published and performed composers. The man who stole Tár's score is modelled on Gilbert Kaplan, I think; Kaplan was obsessed with Mahler 2, had a great deal of money, bought the original manuscript, learned very impressively how to conduct it, and recorded the symphony. Luckily he was also a generous man and did a lot as a patron, as far as I remember. Blanchett's imitation of Glenn Gould is spot on. Another note: current superstar conductor Marin Alsop was a protegé of Leonard Bernstein. The scenes on video of Bernstein teaching are from his instructing excellent up-and-coming conductors at Tanglewood, where Alsop studied with him. And like the character "Lydia Tár," Maestra Alsop is lesbian. Alsop detested the film because of what it implied about female conductors, lesbian couples, controlling same-sex parents, internalized rage, and more. I had hoped Blanchett would win a top Oscar for her role. She was amazing.

@samharold9022 Ай бұрын

Tar has been on my radar for a while, I think I might go ahead and watch it now after all this

@JanesOracle Ай бұрын

Brett, Eddy, your content recently is really next level and I love everything about it. Just fantastic! Love you both and wish you a fantastic day!

@tomforsythe7024 Ай бұрын

All shall love her and despair!

@eganburg Ай бұрын

Just a suggestion, I think you should show us the updated music movie scene tier list in the end

@Camille-Saint-Saens Ай бұрын

WE NEED MORE VIOLIN CHARADES!!!!!!

@GFH-rp8or Ай бұрын

The Mahler 5 trumpet opening is definitely on stage. Because he wrote it that way, and also If you're off stage how do you match the rest of the brass section's volume after the solo? Also, just to nitpick, the horns don't need a giant cue on that upbeat entrance. Just give us a little eye contact and we're good.

@phoebes5008 Ай бұрын

The trumpet opening is part of the plot, Tar literally explains her choice in the movie 🙄

@GFH-rp8or Ай бұрын

@@phoebes5008 Admittedly, I didn't see the movie. No professional conductor in the world is going to have the trumpet start the 5th off-stage, but it get it, it's Hollywood.

@tekraynak Ай бұрын

@@GFH-rp8or Her decision to move the trumpet off-stage is about her narcissism and quest for classical music immortality. In her conversation with Andris (the prior Berlin music director and her mentor) they discuss how the great conductors form their legacies and make major staples of the repertoire 'their own'. They reference Bernstein slowing down the Mahler 5 Adagietto movement for JFK's funeral, which worked for the occasion. So in that context it makes sense for Tar to try to do something that is may be interpretatively problematic to stamp her name in the piece for all history. I also personally like to think the off-stage trumpet hints at the ghost story behind the film... off-stage but nonetheless influencing the world of the orchestra :)

@Sarmen.Michaels Ай бұрын

Cate Blanchett 🙌👏

@yukster678 Ай бұрын

Would love to see you react/comment on Danny Koo's routine and playing shown on the Korean show I Live Alone! Definitely an interesting and friendly violinist!

@tiluttamaborpatra2264 Ай бұрын

I always wait for ur videos❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@disthymia6929 Ай бұрын

We need more reactions to other scenes in Tar. Great movie.

@iralia333 Ай бұрын

Podium is so daunting. Prepare prepare prepare❤

@HelenA-ow3pw Ай бұрын

TwoSet: Insightful critique of movie TwoSetters: WHEN ARE WE GETTING A NEW VIOLIN CHARADES???!!!

@Evan1060 Ай бұрын

They need to hire you guys to assist with these films!! Appreciate your input.

@ameliedefrancois4973 Ай бұрын

I'd love to see you react to the series Mozart in the Jungle ! as always, great video, guys :D

@lukas4112 Ай бұрын

My queen Tár

@Pachi27 Ай бұрын

Tar was such a good movie! Highly recommend!

@MexicanCa Ай бұрын

I jut came across you guys, loooove your video and I did watch Tar which I thought was a great move. Anyway congrats!

@MaileenStaMaria-ln9ed Ай бұрын

Well, it's Cate Blanchett!! She's a great actor!

@hazelbasil4989 Ай бұрын

It's kinda funny because I just came from watching Bradly Cooper video. As somebody who's never played in orchestra, it's always interesting to see your thoughts on films like this where they try to portray what it's like.

@herbolos4714 Ай бұрын

You should check out the 1980 movie "The Competition" with Richard Dreyfuss and Amy Irving.

@ariradousky4205 Ай бұрын

They could do that and Mr. Holland’s Opus as a Richard Dreyfus double feature.

@melodri7307 Ай бұрын

lets go cate blanchett!!!

@miracas1206 Ай бұрын

This Video was quite interesting! Gotta check out the movie now too, lol! Thanks!

@SANDRILLA1979 Ай бұрын

Cate Blanchett es la mejor actriz del mundo

@TunnelyJoesRodentRanch Ай бұрын

Just finished orchestra, then saw this, now I'm going to practice. Working up to 40 hours a day, just figuring out how to use my time turner before I squeeze in the next 16 hours.

@mariosantana5767 Ай бұрын

I’m so happy they did this I swear I was looking for this video 10 days ago… when it didn’t exist yet 😂

@Zippelchen1 Ай бұрын

Hi guys! Great video, enjoyed it very much! I remember this film. The orchestra is called "Dresdner Philharmonie" (Dresden Philharmonic Orchestra). It is on of Germanys best orchestra, situated in the city of Dresden, Saxony in East Germany. My professor plays the tuba in this orchestra and I had some performences with them as well. Greetings from Germany! Sebastian

@Di5co3 Ай бұрын

Me before the video: is there going to be iconic blurry camera? Literally the first 5 seconds:

@Di5co3 Ай бұрын

Its Eddy btw

@hoangkimviet8545 Ай бұрын

I hope you will review Tom Hulce, the actor who played Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart in the film “Amadeus”.

@Griwhoolda Ай бұрын

Which means they will....?

@hoangkimviet8545 Ай бұрын

@@Griwhoolda I am sorry if my words confuse you. I do not intend to order them. It is just my recommendation as a viewer of TwoSetViolin.

@audioliquor Ай бұрын

His conducting was not very good. Symmetrical movements most of the time. The keyboard playing was okay though. Wonderful movie however. Watched it many, many times

@paulwagner688 Ай бұрын

The keyboard parts were very well done. The harpsichord/piano was electric so all the keys were pushed. Hulce just had to put his fingers where the keys were pushed. A lot of work, but he made it look effortless.

@paulwagner688 Ай бұрын

@@audioliquor There really wasn't a lot of conducting as we know it back then. It wa Berlioz who first wrote the first real book on conducting. Mussorgsky either had a copy of this or Rimsky-Korsakov's book in his hand when he died.

@BlissOfCydonia94 16 күн бұрын

love this!! I think it'd be easier to know what you're talking about if you provide the correct version for comparison :)

@sophia-gq5ss Ай бұрын

Omg just searched this up yesterday thinking it was out already and the universe aligned

@eriks2962 Ай бұрын

In the movie when she beats up the conductor, she had been fired from her director of the orchestra job by the board for sexually harassing a player that had lead to her suicide. The concertmaster is actually her wife.

@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Ай бұрын

Wait, I'm confused. Was the male conductor fired or was it the character played by Cate Blanchett? Who harassed who and what does her wife have to do with that? So mamy questions...

@nonid5627 Ай бұрын

@@MissTwoSetEncyclopediawatch the film lol

@M_SC Ай бұрын

Why would you ruin the movie you 🐪

@noahmellemstrand4756 Ай бұрын

@@MissTwoSetEncyclopediabottom line it’s a fantastic movie to watch! Worth checking out before spoiling the rest of the movie via internet

@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Ай бұрын

@@noahmellemstrand4756 No offense but your original comment is itself a big spoiler...

@Bilderrahmenjoe Ай бұрын

Have they ever reacted to Kinski's PAGANINI? Could be worth it, especially since it was newly restored. Their hearts might just stop on screen.

@musicalaviator Ай бұрын

Mahler 2 has 4 offstage trumpets and 4 offstage french horns. Mahler 3 has a single offstage "Flugelhorn" marked as "like a Posthorn", and Mahler 8 has 4 offstage Trumpets and 4 offstage Trombones. Mahler 1 has 3 offstage trumpets, but they are actually trumpet #2 3 and 4 from onstage. After the Offstage section, the 3 trumpet players return to the stage to resume their parts on stage. 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 (and 10) have no offstage brass. (6 of course has the "Hammer", and 7 has a German Tenor Horn which is like a smaller Wagner Tuba with the bell pointing the wrong way) Have played 1, 2 and 8 in my time. Have another Mahler 2 lined up for November this year.

@sophelet Ай бұрын

Have a great time with Mahler 2 again. What instrument do you play? [name drop: I sang Mahler 2 with NY Phil and Bernstein in two different years, once with soloists Kathleen Battle and Jessye Norman, once with Barbara Hendricks and Christa Ludwig. The latter was recorded with DGG. Life-changing experience.]

@musicalaviator Ай бұрын

@@sophelet Trumpet. Those offstage parts are gig material :)